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1. 11:53 AM - Re: Wing walk (Galin Hernandez)
2. 03:27 PM - Re: Wing walk (Galin Hernandez)
3. 04:11 PM - Datum for KIS 2 seat? (pastormac@comcast.net)
4. 06:35 PM - Re: Wing walk (Ed Hanson)
5. 06:39 PM - Re: Wing walk (Ed Hanson)
6. 06:48 PM - Re: Wing walk (Ed Hanson)
7. 07:09 PM - Re: Wing walk (Ed Hanson)
8. 07:50 PM - Re: Wing walk (Ed Hanson)
9. 08:56 PM - Re: Wing walk (Ed Hanson)
10. 10:02 PM - Re: Wing walk (Ed Hanson)
11. 11:04 PM - Re: Wing walk (Ed Hanson)
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FWIW: I have had "wing walk" on my airplane since 2008 and am glad I have
it. My airplane now has over 1,200 flying hrs, and counting, with the "wing
walk" showing all the abuse it has taken. All that abuse on the "wing walk"
area is abuse the wing did not take so the wing is still in very good
condition. When the "wing walk" area eventually wears enough, I will
replace it with new material. I guess there is a reason that many low wing
airplanes come from the factory with "wing walk" tape. YMMV
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On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:48 PM, OC <bakerocb@cox.net> wrote:
>
> 2/28/2017
>
> Hello Robert, I have never understood the desire to glue some very coarse
> black sandpaper on the inboard top of the wings of an aircraft that I was
> building and planning to fly myself. Maybe for some rental airplane that
> may make some sense, but not for one of our home builts.
>
> What does make sense to me is to purchase some non adhesive rubberized
> shelf or tool drawer liner (Similar to these):
>
> https://www.walmart.com/c/kp/shelf-liner
>
> and cut four pieces of the appropriate length and width, two sized for the
> wing walk and two sized for laying over the door sill when getting in or
> out or working on the plane.
>
> Once all occupants are seated in the airplane it is very easy to ball up
> (or fold up if you are a neat nick) and stow the shelf liners behind the
> heels of the copilot. This is otherwise unoccupied space.
>
> I have flown my airplane for over 10 years and never encountered a problem
> unless the wind was blowing so hard that the wing walks wanted to fly away
> before stowing them. II t was usually pretty easy to find some weight (nav
> bag or whatever) to anchor the wing walks in that situation until it was
> time to stow them before flight.
>
> Try it -- it is a low cost, very convenient solution and if you eventually
> don't like it you can always go the coarse black sand paper route.
>
> OC
>
> PS: Along the same line of protecting my airplane's finish I have
> purchased some camp sleeping pad or exercise mats (here are some examples):
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Therm-A-Rest-6432-Therm-a-Rest-RidgeR
> est-Classic/dp/B00HANOY9I/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1503974286&
> sr=8-6&keywords=camp+sleeping+pad
>
> and I keep these pads on the top surface of the wings whenever the
> airplane is in the hangar. Makes great paint protection from tools, parts,
> battery charger, etc.
>
> ===========================================
>
> From: Robert Reed
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 11:29 AM
>
> To: kis-list@matronics.com
> Subject: KIS-List: Wing walk
>
>
> Wings are mounted and in interest of protecting them as I finish interior
> panel and wiring I ordered my wing walk. I felt that the 12 inch was really
> a bit too narrow but the 24 inch looks way too wide when placed on wing.
> Any personal experience to share and where from leading edge did you start.
>
> Bob Reed
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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Here are pics of the "wing walk" area where you can see some of the abuse
it has taken. The wing area underneath is in excellent condition.
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> wrote:
> FWIW: I have had "wing walk" on my airplane since 2008 and am glad I have
> it. My airplane now has over 1,200 flying hrs, and counting, with the "wing
> walk" showing all the abuse it has taken. All that abuse on the "wing walk"
> area is abuse the wing did not take so the wing is still in very good
> condition. When the "wing walk" area eventually wears enough, I will
> replace it with new material. I guess there is a reason that many low wing
> airplanes come from the factory with "wing walk" tape. YMMV
>
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> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:48 PM, OC <bakerocb@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> 2/28/2017
>>
>> Hello Robert, I have never understood the desire to glue some very coarse
>> black sandpaper on the inboard top of the wings of an aircraft that I was
>> building and planning to fly myself. Maybe for some rental airplane that
>> may make some sense, but not for one of our home builts.
>>
>> What does make sense to me is to purchase some non adhesive rubberized
>> shelf or tool drawer liner (Similar to these):
>>
>> https://www.walmart.com/c/kp/shelf-liner
>>
>> and cut four pieces of the appropriate length and width, two sized for
>> the wing walk and two sized for laying over the door sill when getting in
>> or out or working on the plane.
>>
>> Once all occupants are seated in the airplane it is very easy to ball up
>> (or fold up if you are a neat nick) and stow the shelf liners behind the
>> heels of the copilot. This is otherwise unoccupied space.
>>
>> I have flown my airplane for over 10 years and never encountered a
>> problem unless the wind was blowing so hard that the wing walks wanted to
>> fly away before stowing them. II t was usually pretty easy to find some
>> weight (nav bag or whatever) to anchor the wing walks in that situation
>> until it was time to stow them before flight.
>>
>> Try it -- it is a low cost, very convenient solution and if you
>> eventually don't like it you can always go the coarse black sand paper
>> route.
>>
>> OC
>>
>> PS: Along the same line of protecting my airplane's finish I have
>> purchased some camp sleeping pad or exercise mats (here are some examples):
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Therm-A-Rest-6432-Therm-a-Rest-RidgeR
>> est-Classic/dp/B00HANOY9I/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1503974286&
>> sr=8-6&keywords=camp+sleeping+pad
>>
>> and I keep these pads on the top surface of the wings whenever the
>> airplane is in the hangar. Makes great paint protection from tools, parts,
>> battery charger, etc.
>>
>> ===========================================
>>
>> From: Robert Reed
>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 11:29 AM
>>
>> To: kis-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: KIS-List: Wing walk
>>
>>
>> Wings are mounted and in interest of protecting them as I finish interior
>> panel and wiring I ordered my wing walk. I felt that the 12 inch was really
>> a bit too narrow but the 24 inch looks way too wide when placed on wing.
>> Any personal experience to share and where from leading edge did you start.
>>
>> Bob Reed
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Datum for KIS 2 seat? |
Hi guys,
Trying to do weight and balance on my plane. Is the datum at the firewall?
Thanks!
To our success, Stephen McIntosh
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Hi Bob, I used the white wing walk from Spruce. I trimmed it to about 17 by
36 and started it about 2 inches back from the leading edge. This leaves
about 5 inches of the aft wing not covered as I didn't think it needed it. I
used some small pieces on the brake pedals to prevent slipping. I'll try
attaching a photo of the walk. FYI, this is a two person job to apply so be
sweet to your wife in the next few days. Also it will have some bubbles to
roll out. I used a large deep socket as a roller and it took the finish off
the socket and the skin off my hand as I smoothed it out. Get a short piece
of pipe to use as a roller. This stuff just attracts dirt. I found foamy
bath cleaner and a bristle brush to work best to clean it. Happy building.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Reed" <robertr237@att.net>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:29 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Wing walk
>
> Wings are mounted and in interest of protecting them as I finish interior
> panel and wiring I ordered my wing walk. I felt that the 12 inch was
> really a bit too narrow but the 24 inch looks way too wide when placed on
> wing. Any personal experience to share and where from leading edge did you
> start.
>
> Bob Reed
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
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Hi Bob, I used the white wing walk from Spruce. I trimmed it to about 17 by
36 and started it about 2 inches back from the leading edge. This leaves
about 5 inches of the aft wing not covered as I didn't think it needed it. I
used some small pieces on the brake pedals to prevent slipping. I'll try
attaching a photo of the walk. FYI, this is a two person job to apply so be
sweet to your wife in the next few days. Also it will have some bubbles to
roll out. I used a large deep socket as a roller and it took the finish off
the socket and the skin off my hand as I smoothed it out. Get a short piece
of pipe to use as a roller. This stuff just attracts dirt. I found foamy
bath cleaner and a bristle brush to work best to clean it. Happy building.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Reed" <robertr237@att.net>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:29 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Wing walk
>
> Wings are mounted and in interest of protecting them as I finish interior
> panel and wiring I ordered my wing walk. I felt that the 12 inch was
> really a bit too narrow but the 24 inch looks way too wide when placed on
> wing. Any personal experience to share and where from leading edge did you
> start.
>
> Bob Reed
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
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Hi Bob, I used the white wing walk from Spruce. I trimmed it to about 17 by
36 and started it about 2 inches back from the leading edge. This leaves
about 5 inches of the aft wing not covered as I didn't think it needed it. I
used some small pieces on the brake pedals to prevent slipping. I'll try
attaching a photo of the walk. FYI, this is a two person job to apply so be
sweet to your wife in the next few days. Also it will have some bubbles to
roll out. I used a large deep socket as a roller and it took the finish off
the socket and the skin off my hand as I smoothed it out. Get a short piece
of pipe to use as a roller. This stuff just attracts dirt. I found foamy
bath cleaner and a bristle brush to work best to clean it. Happy building.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Reed" <robertr237@att.net>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:29 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Wing walk
>
> Wings are mounted and in interest of protecting them as I finish interior
> panel and wiring I ordered my wing walk. I felt that the 12 inch was
> really a bit too narrow but the 24 inch looks way too wide when placed on
> wing. Any personal experience to share and where from leading edge did you
> start.
>
> Bob Reed
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
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Hi Bob, I used the white wing walk from Spruce. I trimmed it to about 17 by
36 and started it about 2 inches back from the leading edge. This leaves
about 5 inches of the aft wing not covered as I didn't think it needed it. I
used some small pieces on the brake pedals to prevent slipping. I'll try
attaching a photo of the walk. FYI, this is a two person job to apply so be
sweet to your wife in the next few days. Also it will have some bubbles to
roll out. I used a large deep socket as a roller and it took the finish off
the socket and the skin off my hand as I smoothed it out. Get a short piece
of pipe to use as a roller. This stuff just attracts dirt. I found foamy
bath cleaner and a bristle brush to work best to clean it. Happy building.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Reed" <robertr237@att.net>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:29 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Wing walk
>
> Wings are mounted and in interest of protecting them as I finish interior
> panel and wiring I ordered my wing walk. I felt that the 12 inch was
> really a bit too narrow but the 24 inch looks way too wide when placed on
> wing. Any personal experience to share and where from leading edge did you
> start.
>
> Bob Reed
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
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Hi Bob, I used the white wing walk from Spruce. I trimmed it to about 17 by
36 and started it about 2 inches back from the leading edge. This leaves
about 5 inches of the aft wing not covered as I didn't think it needed it. I
used some small pieces on the brake pedals to prevent slipping. I'll try
attaching a photo of the walk. FYI, this is a two person job to apply so be
sweet to your wife in the next few days. Also it will have some bubbles to
roll out. I used a large deep socket as a roller and it took the finish off
the socket and the skin off my hand as I smoothed it out. Get a short piece
of pipe to use as a roller. This stuff just attracts dirt. I found foamy
bath cleaner and a bristle brush to work best to clean it. Happy building.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Reed" <robertr237@att.net>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:29 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Wing walk
>
> Wings are mounted and in interest of protecting them as I finish interior
> panel and wiring I ordered my wing walk. I felt that the 12 inch was
> really a bit too narrow but the 24 inch looks way too wide when placed on
> wing. Any personal experience to share and where from leading edge did you
> start.
>
> Bob Reed
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
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Hi Bob, I used the white wing walk from Spruce. I trimmed it to about 17 by
36 and started it about 2 inches back from the leading edge. This leaves
about 5 inches of the aft wing not covered as I didn't think it needed it. I
used some small pieces on the brake pedals to prevent slipping. I'll try
attaching a photo of the walk. FYI, this is a two person job to apply so be
sweet to your wife in the next few days. Also it will have some bubbles to
roll out. I used a large deep socket as a roller and it took the finish off
the socket and the skin off my hand as I smoothed it out. Get a short piece
of pipe to use as a roller. This stuff just attracts dirt. I found foamy
bath cleaner and a bristle brush to work best to clean it. Happy building.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Reed" <robertr237@att.net>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:29 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Wing walk
>
> Wings are mounted and in interest of protecting them as I finish interior
> panel and wiring I ordered my wing walk. I felt that the 12 inch was
> really a bit too narrow but the 24 inch looks way too wide when placed on
> wing. Any personal experience to share and where from leading edge did you
> start.
>
> Bob Reed
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
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Hi Bob, I used the white wing walk from Spruce. I trimmed it to about 17 by
36 and started it about 2 inches back from the leading edge. This leaves
about 5 inches of the aft wing not covered as I didn't think it needed it. I
used some small pieces on the brake pedals to prevent slipping. I'll try
attaching a photo of the walk. FYI, this is a two person job to apply so be
sweet to your wife in the next few days. Also it will have some bubbles to
roll out. I used a large deep socket as a roller and it took the finish off
the socket and the skin off my hand as I smoothed it out. Get a short piece
of pipe to use as a roller. This stuff just attracts dirt. I found foamy
bath cleaner and a bristle brush to work best to clean it. Happy building.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Reed" <robertr237@att.net>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:29 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Wing walk
>
> Wings are mounted and in interest of protecting them as I finish interior
> panel and wiring I ordered my wing walk. I felt that the 12 inch was
> really a bit too narrow but the 24 inch looks way too wide when placed on
> wing. Any personal experience to share and where from leading edge did you
> start.
>
> Bob Reed
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
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Hi Bob, I used the white wing walk from Spruce. I trimmed it to about 17 by
36 and started it about 2 inches back from the leading edge. This leaves
about 5 inches of the aft wing not covered as I didn't think it needed it. I
used some small pieces on the brake pedals to prevent slipping. I'll try
attaching a photo of the walk. FYI, this is a two person job to apply so be
sweet to your wife in the next few days. Also it will have some bubbles to
roll out. I used a large deep socket as a roller and it took the finish off
the socket and the skin off my hand as I smoothed it out. Get a short piece
of pipe to use as a roller. This stuff just attracts dirt. I found foamy
bath cleaner and a bristle brush to work best to clean it. Happy building.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Reed" <robertr237@att.net>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:29 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Wing walk
>
> Wings are mounted and in interest of protecting them as I finish interior
> panel and wiring I ordered my wing walk. I felt that the 12 inch was
> really a bit too narrow but the 24 inch looks way too wide when placed on
> wing. Any personal experience to share and where from leading edge did you
> start.
>
> Bob Reed
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
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