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| Subject: | Re: ADS-B "Saved" me |
Galin,
Glad to hear that everything worked out OK and that is positive confirmatio
n of the value of the ADS-B IN/OUT System.=C2- Lot of plane owners upset
about having to spend the big bucks to add to production aircraft but sound
s like it just paid for itself in your case.=C2-
I am starting to acquire the components for a full Dynon based panel and wh
ile they are not "CHEAP" by any measure they seem to be much more reasonabl
y priced than anything else when putting together a full panel.=C2- I kno
w you got the Dynon Skyview system, are you pleased with it?=C2- Did you
get the 10" display or the 7"?=C2- I am currently planning (if the money
permits) on the 10" HDX to start and adding the 7" at a later date after fl
ying.=C2- Also leaving panel space for Certified GPS/NAV/COM to enable IF
R in the future.=C2- Already have the engine monitors, ADAHRS, and GPS-20
20.=C2- Getting the components as needed and not before.
Bob
From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
To: "kis-list@matronics.com" <kis-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:03 PM
Subject: KIS-List: ADS-B "Saved" me
On Sept 7 I was IFR westbound on V198 at 4,00ft talking to Eglin approach o
n my way to Milton, FL (2R4) when my SkyView display started giving me a "T
raffic Warning". The ADS-B indicated I had traffic 3 miles out, approaching
me head on at my same altitude. When the alert showed the traffic at 1 mil
e, still approaching me head on and still at my altitude I firmly pulled th
e nose up and turned to the right. A few seconds later I saw a twin engine
airplane pass about 100ft below me to my left, where the ADS-B was showing.
When I got over the "scare" I told the controller, in a firm voice, what ha
d just happened and that I was a little upset. The controller sheepishly to
ld me it was a Seneca maneuvering in that area. Immediately after, a differ
ent voice came on the radio and told me the Seneca was behind me and no lon
ger a factor. It gave me the impression the original controller, who was qu
ite busy at the time, was a trainee.
You can see my "evasive" maneuver on the FlightAware Track Log from 20:56:2
1Z to 20:58:07Z. What you can't see there is the affect it had on my underw
ear. ;)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N819PR/history/20170907/1830Z/KBQK/2R4/t
racklog
When I got on the ground I filled out a NASA form just so my little grain o
f salt is entered into the system.
ADS-B is not a substitute for "see and avoid". But in this case I don't kno
w if I would I have seen this traffic without the ADS-B "point out". Being
able to know where to look was a significant factor in knowing what to do.
I didn't actually see the other airplane until it was extremely close.
Remember, ADS-B "IN" is a re-broadcast (TIS-B) of traffic being sent to som
ebody with ADS-B "OUT". If you only have ADS-B "IN", the re-broadcast you r
eceive is the traffic meant for the other guy, not necessarily the traffic
near you. This can be VERY misleading and give a false sense of security fo
r the person with only ADS-B in. I am so glad I have ADS-B "IN/OUT" in my a
irplane.
:)
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| Subject: | Re: ADS-B "Saved" me |
I am SUPER pleased with my DYNON SkyView system especially their customer
support. I have dual 7" displays with all the "bells & whistles". Here is a
photo of my panel so you have an idea:
=8B
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net> wrote:
> Galin,
>
> Glad to hear that everything worked out OK and that is positive
> confirmation of the value of the ADS-B IN/OUT System. Lot of plane owner
s
> upset about having to spend the big bucks to add to production aircraft b
ut
> sounds like it just paid for itself in your case.
>
> I am starting to acquire the components for a full Dynon based panel and
> while they are not "CHEAP" by any measure they seem to be much more
> reasonably priced than anything else when putting together a full panel.
I
> know you got the Dynon Skyview system, are you pleased with it? Did you
> get the 10" display or the 7"? I am currently planning (if the money
> permits) on the 10" HDX to start and adding the 7" at a later date after
> flying. Also leaving panel space for Certified GPS/NAV/COM to enable IFR
> in the future. Already have the engine monitors, ADAHRS, and GPS-2020.
> Getting the components as needed and not before.
>
> Bob
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
> *To:* "kis-list@matronics.com" <kis-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:03 PM
> *Subject:* KIS-List: ADS-B "Saved" me
>
> On Sept 7 I was IFR westbound on V198 at 4,00ft talking to Eglin approach
> on my way to Milton, FL (2R4) when my SkyView display started giving me a
> "Traffic Warning". The ADS-B indicated I had traffic 3 miles out,
> approaching me head on at my same altitude. When the alert showed the
> traffic at 1 mile, still approaching me head on and still at my altitude
I
> firmly pulled the nose up and turned to the right. A few seconds later I
> saw a twin engine airplane pass about 100ft below me to my left, where th
e
> ADS-B was showing.
>
> When I got over the "scare" I told the controller, in a firm voice, what
> had just happened and that I was a little upset. The controller sheepishl
y
> told me it was a Seneca maneuvering in that area. Immediately after, a
> different voice came on the radio and told me the Seneca was behind me an
d
> no longer a factor. It gave me the impression the original controller, wh
o
> was quite busy at the time, was a trainee.
>
> You can see my "evasive" maneuver on the FlightAware Track Log from
> 20:56:21Z to 20:58:07Z. What you can't see there is the affect it had on
my
> underwear. ;)
>
> http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N819PR/history/20170907/1830Z/KBQK/2R4
/
> tracklog
>
> When I got on the ground I filled out a NASA form just so my little grain
> of salt is entered into the system.
>
> ADS-B is not a substitute for "see and avoid". But in this case I don't
> know if I would I have seen this traffic without the ADS-B "point out".
> Being able to know where to look was a significant factor in knowing what
> to do. I didn't actually see the other airplane until it was extremely
> close.
>
> Remember, ADS-B "IN" is a re-broadcast (TIS-B) of traffic being sent to
> somebody with ADS-B "OUT". If you only have ADS-B "IN", the re-broadcast
> you receive is the traffic meant for the other guy, not necessarily the
> traffic near you. This can be VERY misleading and give a false sense of
> security for the person with only ADS-B in. I am so glad I have ADS-B
> "IN/OUT" in my airplane.
>
> :)
>
>
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