---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/14/18: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:31 AM - Re: AW: Re: Can anyone help me with a wing template? (Robert Reed) 2. 09:48 AM - Re: AW: Re: Can anyone help me with a wing template? (Twellmann, Ralf) 3. 01:16 PM - Re: Re: Can anyone help me with a wing template? (M Ketteing) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: AW: KIS-List: Re: Can anyone help me with a wing template? From: Robert Reed Thank you Ralf, its great that after all this time the KIS builders are still supporting each other. Thank you Bob Reed Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 14, 2018, at 1:58 AM, Twellmann, Ralf wrote: > > Hello, > > here is a DXF file of the airfoil with the appropriate cord length of 1167 mm. (yes, we use the metric system ;-)) > I also added the 3 degree line you need to set the wing to the right angle. > You should find somebody who has access to a big format printer to print it out for you. > Good luck with the construction of your plane and don`t hesitate to ask if you have further questions. > > Best regards from Germany, > Ralf Twellmann (KIS# 104) > > > Tel.: +49 / (0)5731 745-158 > Fax: +49 / (0)5731 745-222 > mailto:r.twellmann@steute.com > http://www.steute.com > > > -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- > Von: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von threetracker > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. November 2018 05:26 > An: kis-list@matronics.com > Betreff: KIS-List: Re: Can anyone help me with a wing template? > > > Tim has suggested that since the TR-1 wing is a straight wing someone could remove a wingtip and trace the planform for me. I do have the molded wing tips and I'm going to see how the traced shape looks for constructing a template. > > Thank you Tm. It might just work and it's at least worth a try. I can carefully see how accurate a shape I can get off of two wing tips where they attach to the end of the wings. That is still more accurate than a guess at the shape based on ribs and skins. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484997#484997 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:48:54 AM PST US From: "Twellmann, Ralf" Subject: Re: AW: KIS-List: Re: Can anyone help me with a wing template? My pleasure, Bob. I forgot to mention that different from the drawing i sent, the airfoil on the KIS has no crusp at the trailing edge (the shape is not curved inwards) but straight. So simply replace the curve in the aileron/ flap area with a straight line. This was done to simplify construction. Regards, Ralf > Am 14.11.2018 um 14:33 schrieb Robert Reed : > > > Thank you Ralf, its great that after all this time the KIS builders are still supporting each other. > > Thank you > > Bob Reed > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 14, 2018, at 1:58 AM, Twellmann, Ralf wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> here is a DXF file of the airfoil with the appropriate cord length of 1167 mm. (yes, we use the metric system ;-)) >> I also added the 3 degree line you need to set the wing to the right angle. >> You should find somebody who has access to a big format printer to print it out for you. >> Good luck with the construction of your plane and don`t hesitate to ask if you have further questions. >> >> Best regards from Germany, >> Ralf Twellmann (KIS# 104) >> >> >> Tel.: +49 / (0)5731 745-158 >> Fax: +49 / (0)5731 745-222 >> mailto:r.twellmann@steute.com >> http://www.steute.com >> >> >> -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von threetracker >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. November 2018 05:26 >> An: kis-list@matronics.com >> Betreff: KIS-List: Re: Can anyone help me with a wing template? >> >> >> Tim has suggested that since the TR-1 wing is a straight wing someone could remove a wingtip and trace the planform for me. I do have the molded wing tips and I'm going to see how the traced shape looks for constructing a template. >> >> Thank you Tm. It might just work and it's at least worth a try. I can carefully see how accurate a shape I can get off of two wing tips where they attach to the end of the wings. That is still more accurate than a guess at the shape based on ribs and skins. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484997#484997 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:57 PM PST US From: M Ketteing Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: Can anyone help me with a wing template? Both the TR1 and TR4 use the same airfoil, NACA 63(2)-215. The TR1 has a cord of about 46" and the TR5 has a cord of about 56". So you can use the template for the TR4 but scale it for the TR1. -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 11/13/18, threetracker wrote: Subject: KIS-List: Re: Can anyone help me with a wing template? To: kis-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 9:07 PM "threetracker" Well. I feel much better about my predicament after getting three replies already. It is true that the TR-1 and the TR-4 are very different wings. I'm told that the TR-1 wing was also used on the Pulsar 150. Does anybody have any info on that application? I'm a long way from being discouraged; somebody will come to my rescue...lol Thinking out loud; is it likely that a particular wing design would be registered with somebody other than the designer/manufacturer? I'm still hopeful that someone will have a TR-1 template. Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=484993#484993 Support Your Lists This Month -- (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) Fund Raiser. 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