---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/31/19: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:44 AM - Re: ELT ANTENNA (Galin Hernandez) 2. 06:28 AM - Re: ELT ANTENNA (William Schertz) 3. 08:21 AM - Re: ELT ANTENNA (Robert Reed) 4. 09:24 AM - Re: ELT ANTENNA () 5. 11:13 AM - Re: ELT ANTENNA (Robert Reed) 6. 04:53 PM - Re: ELT ANTENNA (Galin Hernandez) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:40 AM PST US From: Galin Hernandez Subject: Re: KIS-List: ELT ANTENNA My solution is similar to Bob's but I attached it to the back part of the rear bulkhead. The bulkhead has a large hole, covered by a KIS Cruiser sign, for access to the rear seat belt shoulder harness connection during maintenance. This makes it simple to access the coax cable plug on the ELT antenna whenever I need to take the bulkhead off. I use a 90degree BNC connector to make easy accessing the plug. I know it works since I also accidentally activated the ELT inside my hangar and within minutes got a call from the Air Force Search & Rescue center with the exact Lat/Lon of my position. On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 9:42 PM wrote: > Where is a good place to locate the ELT antenna? > > > Thanks > > > Mike > > > Mike Pienaar > > *mike@vision499.com * > > *Home: +1 250-999-8121* > > Mike cell: +1 250-885-0554 > > 1-1100 Tulip Ave, Victoria, BC, V8Z 0A2 > > > ------------------------------ > [image: Avast logo] > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > <#m_-5583703127639950565_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:07 AM PST US From: William Schertz Subject: Re: KIS-List: ELT ANTENNA My solution was to mount the antenna behind the baggage bulkhead, mounted to the floor of the fuselage. It was on a bracket that elevated it enough to use a right angle connector, and the ground plane was 6 radial copper tape segments bonded to the fuselage. The one issue I had was that with the original positioning of the ELT itself, it would activate when I keyed the microphone. I had to move the box to find a location where the interference did not occur. Bill Schertz On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:45 AM Galin Hernandez wrote: > My solution is similar to Bob's but I attached it to the back part of the > rear bulkhead. The bulkhead has a large hole, covered by a KIS Cruiser > sign, for access to the rear seat belt shoulder harness connection during > maintenance. This makes it simple to access the coax cable plug on the ELT > antenna whenever I need to take the bulkhead off. I use a 90degree BNC > connector to make easy accessing the plug. > > I know it works since I also accidentally activated the ELT inside my > hangar and within minutes got a call from the Air Force Search & Rescue > center with the exact Lat/Lon of my position. > > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 9:42 PM wrote: > >> Where is a good place to locate the ELT antenna? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> Mike Pienaar >> >> *mike@vision499.com * >> >> *Home: +1 250-999-8121* >> >> Mike cell: +1 250-885-0554 >> >> 1-1100 Tulip Ave, Victoria, BC, V8Z 0A2 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> [image: Avast logo] >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> >> <#m_-3351245362549239253_m_-5583703127639950565_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:21:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: KIS-List: ELT ANTENNA From: Robert Reed That=99s where I ended up putting my transponder and ADSB antenna. One on each side with 12 inch square ground plane bonded to floor. Works well e nough to pickup local traffic on Dynon while setting inside the hangar. Bob Reed Sent from my iPhone > On May 31, 2019, at 8:27 AM, William Schertz wrote : > > My solution was to mount the antenna behind the baggage bulkhead, mounted t o the floor of the fuselage. It was on a bracket that elevated it enough to u se a right angle connector, and the ground plane was 6 radial copper tape se gments bonded to the fuselage. The one issue I had was that with the origina l positioning of the ELT itself, it would activate when I keyed the micropho ne. I had to move the box to find a location where the interference did not o ccur. > Bill Schertz > >> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:45 AM Galin Hernandez wrot e: >> My solution is similar to Bob's but I attached it to the back part of the rear bulkhead. The bulkhead has a large hole, covered by a KIS Cruiser sign , for access to the rear seat belt shoulder harness connection during mainte nance. This makes it simple to access the coax cable plug on the ELT antenna whenever I need to take the bulkhead off. I use a 90degree BNC connector to make easy accessing the plug. >> >> I know it works since I also accidentally activated the ELT inside my han gar and within minutes got a call from the Air Force Search & Rescue center w ith the exact Lat/Lon of my position. >> >>> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 9:42 PM wrote: >>> Where is a good place to locate the ELT antenna? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike Pienaar >>> >>> mike@vision499.com >>> >>> Home: +1 250-999-8121 >>> >>> Mike cell: +1 250-885-0554 >>> >>> 1-1100 Tulip Ave, Victoria, BC, V8Z 0A2 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> www.avast.com >>> >>> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:24:01 AM PST US From: Subject: RE: KIS-List: ELT ANTENNA Thanks to all with the help. How do you join the separate strips of copper tape so that they conduct? Just had a phone call from somebody who also had a problem with triggering his ELT but in his case it was the transponder and he had to put an attenua tor on the transponder output Off to the hangar now to see what I can do there Thanks again Mike From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com On Behalf Of Robert Reed Sent: May 31, 2019 8:00 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: ELT ANTENNA That=99s where I ended up putting my transponder and ADSB antenna. On e on each side with 12 inch square ground plane bonded to floor. Works wel l enough to pickup local traffic on Dynon while setting inside the hangar. Bob Reed Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2019, at 8:27 AM, William Schertz > wrote: My solution was to mount the antenna behind the baggage bulkhead, mounted t o the floor of the fuselage. It was on a bracket that elevated it enough to use a right angle connector, and the ground plane was 6 radial copper tape segments bonded to the fuselage. The one issue I had was that with the ori ginal positioning of the ELT itself, it would activate when I keyed the mic rophone. I had to move the box to find a location where the interference di d not occur. Bill Schertz On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:45 AM Galin Hernandez > wrote: My solution is similar to Bob's but I attached it to the back part of the r ear bulkhead. The bulkhead has a large hole, covered by a KIS Cruiser sign, for access to the rear seat belt shoulder harness connection during mainte nance. This makes it simple to access the coax cable plug on the ELT antenn a whenever I need to take the bulkhead off. I use a 90degree BNC connector to make easy accessing the plug. I know it works since I also accidentally activated the ELT inside my hanga r and within minutes got a call from the Air Force Search & Rescue center w ith the exact Lat/Lon of my position. On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 9:42 PM > wrote: Where is a good place to locate the ELT antenna? Thanks Mike Mike Pienaar mike@vision499.com Home: +1 250-999-8121 Mike cell: +1 250-885-0554 1-1100 Tulip Ave, Victoria, BC, V8Z 0A2 _____ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:13:25 AM PST US Subject: Re: KIS-List: ELT ANTENNA From: Robert Reed I used very thin aluminum strips about one inch wide and a center disk of th e same material. I riveted each of the strips to the center disk and fibergl ass sheet. Used multi meter to confirm continuity. I would have done similar if I had used copper tape. You can either remove t he sticky from the tape or mate the top to the center. Pop rivets will ensur e the contact and a quick check with multi meter will validate. Bob Reed Sent from my iPhone > On May 31, 2019, at 11:23 AM, wr ote: > > Thanks to all with the help. > > How do you join the separate strips of copper tape so that they conduct? > > Just had a phone call from somebody who also had a problem with triggering his ELT but in his case it was the transponder and he had to put an attenua tor on the transponder output > > Off to the hangar now to see what I can do there > > Thanks again > > Mike > > From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com On Behalf Of Robert Reed > Sent: May 31, 2019 8:00 AM > To: kis-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: KIS-List: ELT ANTENNA > > That=99s where I ended up putting my transponder and ADSB antenna. O ne on each side with 12 inch square ground plane bonded to floor. Works wel l enough to pickup local traffic on Dynon while setting inside the hangar. > > > > Bob Reed > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 31, 2019, at 8:27 AM, William Schertz wrote : > > My solution was to mount the antenna behind the baggage bulkhead, mounted t o the floor of the fuselage. It was on a bracket that elevated it enough to u se a right angle connector, and the ground plane was 6 radial copper tape se gments bonded to the fuselage. The one issue I had was that with the origina l positioning of the ELT itself, it would activate when I keyed the micropho ne. I had to move the box to find a location where the interference did not o ccur. > Bill Schertz > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:45 AM Galin Hernandez wrote : > My solution is similar to Bob's but I attached it to the back part of the r ear bulkhead. The bulkhead has a large hole, covered by a KIS Cruiser sign, f or access to the rear seat belt shoulder harness connection during maintenan ce. This makes it simple to access the coax cable plug on the ELT antenna wh enever I need to take the bulkhead off. I use a 90degree BNC connector to ma ke easy accessing the plug. > > I know it works since I also accidentally activated the ELT inside my hang ar and within minutes got a call from the Air Force Search & Rescue center w ith the exact Lat/Lon of my position. > > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 9:42 PM wrote: > Where is a good place to locate the ELT antenna? > > Thanks > > Mike > > Mike Pienaar > mike@vision499.com > Home: +1 250-999-8121 > Mike cell: +1 250-885-0554 > 1-1100 Tulip Ave, Victoria, BC, V8Z 0A2 > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:22 PM PST US From: Galin Hernandez Subject: Re: KIS-List: ELT ANTENNA I used copper tape attached to the aluminum angle frame for the ground plane. It works great. On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 2:14 PM Robert Reed wrote: > I used very thin aluminum strips about one inch wide and a center disk of > the same material. I riveted each of the strips to the center disk and > fiberglass sheet. Used multi meter to confirm continuity. > > I would have done similar if I had used copper tape. You can either remov e > the sticky from the tape or mate the top to the center. Pop rivets will > ensure the contact and a quick check with multi meter will validate. > > Bob Reed > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 31, 2019, at 11:23 AM, > wrote: > > Thanks to all with the help. > > > How do you join the separate strips of copper tape so that they conduct? > > > Just had a phone call from somebody who also had a problem with triggerin g > his ELT but in his case it was the transponder and he had to put an > attenuator on the transponder output > > > Off to the hangar now to see what I can do there > > > Thanks again > > > Mike > > > *From:* owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com < > owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Robert Reed > *Sent:* May 31, 2019 8:00 AM > *To:* kis-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: ELT ANTENNA > > > That=99s where I ended up putting my transponder and ADSB antenna. One on > each side with 12 inch square ground plane bonded to floor. Works well > enough to pickup local traffic on Dynon while setting inside the hangar. > > > Bob Reed > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 31, 2019, at 8:27 AM, William Schertz > wrote: > > My solution was to mount the antenna behind the baggage bulkhead, mounted > to the floor of the fuselage. It was on a bracket that elevated it enough > to use a right angle connector, and the ground plane was 6 radial copper > tape segments bonded to the fuselage. The one issue I had was that with t he > original positioning of the ELT itself, it would activate when I keyed th e > microphone. I had to move the box to find a location where the interferen ce > did not occur. > > Bill Schertz > > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:45 AM Galin Hernandez > wrote: > > My solution is similar to Bob's but I attached it to the back part of the > rear bulkhead. The bulkhead has a large hole, covered by a KIS Cruiser > sign, for access to the rear seat belt shoulder harness connection during > maintenance. This makes it simple to access the coax cable plug on the EL T > antenna whenever I need to take the bulkhead off. I use a 90degree BNC > connector to make easy accessing the plug. > > > I know it works since I also accidentally activated the ELT inside my > hangar and within minutes got a call from the Air Force Search & Rescue > center with the exact Lat/Lon of my position. > > > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 9:42 PM wrote: > > Where is a good place to locate the ELT antenna? > > > Thanks > > > Mike > > > Mike Pienaar > > *mike@vision499.com * > > *Home: +1 250-999-8121* > > Mike cell: +1 250-885-0554 > > 1-1100 Tulip Ave, Victoria, BC, V8Z 0A2 > > > ------------------------------ > > [image: Avast logo] > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kis-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/KIS-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kis-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kis-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.