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| Subject: | KIS4 SN 4052 is 20yrs old |
Bob, I will be at my hangar next Monday. I will take a picture of my setup.
Simply put, mine is a tow bar that connects to the toe bar points on the n
osewheel that has a an onboard winch, with a Bluetooth remote, that attache
s to an anchor point in the hangar floor.
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From: Robert Reed
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: KIS4 SN 4052 is 20yrs old
Great Minds....All come up with virtually the same solution.
My first thought and effort was put into modifying a Jazzy Pride powered sc
ooter that I inherited from my mother-in-law.=C2- Put a connection for th
e tow bar on the front of it and gave it a try.=C2- Pulled the plane out
without a problem but pushing it back in was impossible.=C2- The way the
steering works on the scooter was impossible to control when pushing.=C2-
Tried multiple configurations and NO JOY.=C2- So, next option was the Ha
rbor Freight Winch I had bought two years ago for helping me load heavy loa
ds into my pickup by myself.=C2- I have a sturdy and heavy metal stand th
at I am mounting the winch on with the battery and controls on a shelf unde
r the top.=C2- Put anchor bolts into the hangar floor and will be bolting
it to the stand.=C2- Winch looks like it will be at just right height fo
r straight pull and plenty of cable to work with.=C2- Haven't finished th
e hookup yet but hope to do so this week.=C2- My tow connection will be t
o the rear tie down supplemented by pushing with the tow bar from the front
.
Thanks for your input, it confirms the workability of the winch system for
me.
Great to hear from you Bill and hated to hear that you sold your plane but
understand.
Ed Hanson, I would like to see a photo of your setup, it sounds entirely di
fferent from what I am doing and I would like to see how you worked it.=C2
- Not sure if I understood that you are pulling back using the nose wheel
or not.=C2- If so, how do you steer the plane when it is backing up?
Thanks,=C2-
Bob Reed
=C2-
On Monday, December 6, 2021, 10:28:11 AM CST, William Schertz <wschertz343@
gmail.com> wrote:
Bob
I also used a cheap Harbor freight winch to pull my plane back into the han
ger. Looped a soft nylon rope around the horizontal stab, then could use th
e remote control on the winch while guiding from the front with a towbar.
=C2-
Bill
p.s. My plane is currently owned by a partnership in FL (second set of owne
rs) and is being retrofitted for a Lycoming. My firewall forward with the M
azda is currently owned by a Cozy builder in TN who will be making it=C2-
'firewall aft' installation.
On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 8:03 PM Ed Hanson <hansoncp@netnitco.net> wrote:
Hi Bob, I had the same problem with my hangar approach so I made a KIS tug.
I installed a =C2-single 3/8=9D anchor in the hangar floor at abou
t 2/3rds of the hangar depth and in line with the fuselage centerline. I be
nt a loop out of some flat iron that bolts to the anchor. This is for a win
ch cable hook. I bought a cheap 12 volt remote controlled winch from Harbor
freight. I mounted the winch and a battery to an angle iron frame I fabric
ated that allows the angles to spread and two studs to engage in the tow ba
r holes on the nose wheel when aligned from the rear. I put two old lawn mo
wer wheels on the rear of the frame. I put some foam pipe insulation over t
he angle irons where they are near the wheel pant to avoid any contact. I h
ave a small tie angle on the front of the setup that you swing close and dr
op in a =C2=BC=99 locking bolt after you engage the studs in nose whe
el. I=99ve found putting a pipe wrench on the tie angle helps to stee
r the nose wheel into the hangar. Makes life a lot easier for us especially
when we are full of fuel. I keep an old cable come-a-long in the hangar in
case the battery gets low.
=C2-
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=C2-
From: Robert Reed
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: KIS4 SN 4052 is 20yrs old
=C2-
I hate to admit this but I had been working on my project for about a year
when Dave Tate and his wife came to visit us and look over my project. Dave
had just ordered his kit. Dave finished his project, flew it several years
before selling it to Galin. Galin flew it all over the country while I was
still working on my plane. My congratulations to both Dave and Galin for p
roving what a great airplane the Cruiser is.
=C2-
I finally finished my plane a couple of years ago now.=C2- It=99s t
aken me the last two years to put the 40 hours of test flights. Getting the
test flight time suffered from the same issues as the buildlife j
ust kept getting in the way and I had a house to build. Still have some wor
k to do on the house but nothing that can=99t wait for some well earn
ed flying.=C2- The only problem now is that I can=99t push the plan
e back into the hangar by myself.=C2- There=99s a definite slope aw
ay from hangar and I am getting too old to have to put that much effort int
o pushing the plane. Bruised my ribs the last time I did it so I am now wor
king on some kind of tug.
=C2-
Bob Reed
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=C2-
> On Dec 4, 2021, at 7:58 AM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB
> As of 12/03/2021, my KIS4 airplane (SN 4052) has been flying for 20 years
. Originally built by Dave Tate as N92DT it has averaged 75 flight hours ev
ery year since then. I hope to see it flying for at least another 20 years.
>
>=C2- Attached is a photo taken on 12/3/2021 during the 1st flight and a
photo taken on 4/16/2021 during Sun-N-Fun.
=C2-
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