Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Wed 11/19/03


Total Messages Posted: 19



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:22 AM - Unfinished 6 For Sale (k1kbl Edwards)
     2. 05:19 AM - Motor mount and Cowlings (Bob Unternaehrer)
     3. 07:12 AM - Re: Series 6 Trim Indicator (Peter Graichen)
     4. 07:38 AM - Re: Motor mount and Cowlings (Grant Fluent)
     5. 09:16 AM - Firewall Insulation (John Banes)
     6. 10:59 AM -  (Jack Seaford)
     7. 11:13 AM - Re:  (W Duke)
     8. 12:06 PM - Re: Re: Goodbye "kitfox@sportflight.com". (John Anderson)
     9. 01:37 PM - Re:  (LeRoy staley)
    10. 01:41 PM - Re:  (Ron)
    11. 02:08 PM - Firewall forward (DC91840@aol.com)
    12. 02:12 PM - Re: Re: Goodbye "kitfox@sportflight.com". (Dee Young)
    13. 02:32 PM - Re: carb adjustments (kitfoxpilot@att.net)
    14. 04:19 PM - Re: Motor mount and Cowlings (Bob Unternaehrer)
    15. 05:13 PM - Re: Series 6 Trim Indicator (John E. King)
    16. 05:24 PM - Re: trim indicator (John E. King)
    17. 07:25 PM - Re: Motor mount and Cowlings (Grant Fluent)
    18. 09:41 PM - Re: carb adjustments (jimshumaker)
    19. 10:38 PM - Another 'Latest update' Re; Newbie flaperon problrm (Ron Carroll)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:22:22 AM PST US
    From: "k1kbl Edwards" <k1kbl@msn.com>
    Subject: Unfinished 6 For Sale
    Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:19:01 -0500 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "k1kbl Edwards" <k1kbl@msn.com> Firewall aft unfinished 6 for sale in Vermont. No time to finish. Tailwheel configuration, fuselage almost complete up to cover. Fast built wings and powdercoat options. E-mail privately for more info K1KBL@msn.com 15K


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    Time: 05:19:12 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
    Subject: Motor mount and Cowlings
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> I'm looking for a Firewall forward kit for the Kitfox IV using the VW engine.. Does anyone know who makes the smooth cowl that fits the Mod IV and a Motor mount. Blue Skies Bob Unternaehrer


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    Time: 07:12:15 AM PST US
    From: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
    Subject: Series 6 Trim Indicator
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com> Hi John: Installation is no problem, because only the two ends of the sheath need to be secured; same as bicycle brake. The sheath lies loosely (not tight) in the bottom of the fuselage, secured with tiewraps in a few accessible places. Peter Graichen http://home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John E. King Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Series 6 Trim Indicator --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com> Peter, Good to hear from you again. Saw you and your wife last at Oshkosh. Very interesting solution, will have to look into that. Did you have any trouble installing the Bowden cable inside the fuselage where it is difficult to get to? -- John King Warrenton, VA


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    Time: 07:38:27 AM PST US
    From: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Motor mount and Cowlings
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com> Bob, Check out Great Plains Aircraft: http://www.greatplainsas.com/pg52.html Grant Fluent Newcastle, NE Classic IV --- Bob Unternaehrer <shilocom@c-magic.com> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob > Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> > > I'm looking for a Firewall forward kit for the > Kitfox IV using the VW engine.. Does anyone know who > makes the smooth cowl that fits the Mod IV and a > Motor mount. > > Blue Skies > Bob Unternaehrer > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > __________________________________


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    Time: 09:16:06 AM PST US
    From: "John Banes" <johnbanes@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Firewall Insulation
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Banes" <johnbanes@adelphia.net> I would appreciate a recommendation for firewall insulation. John Banes Series 6 912S


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    Time: 10:59:35 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Seaford" <jseaford@bellsouth.net>
    Subject:
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jack Seaford" <jseaford@bellsouth.net> Was wondering if anybody else gets hot in there Kitfox? They are like a green house. Any ideas on blocking part of the sun, shades etc? Jack Seaford jseaford@bellsouth.net


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    Time: 11:13:41 AM PST US
    From: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re:
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com> The "super jumbo" size two piece car shade from WalMart works well for me. Only need one of the two in the package. There are pictures of mine at http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=main&category=Add-Ons/Modifications Jack Seaford <jseaford@bellsouth.net> wrote:--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jack Seaford" Was wondering if anybody else gets hot in there Kitfox? They are like a green house. Any ideas on blocking part of the sun, shades etc? Jack Seaford jseaford@bellsouth.net Maxwell Duke S6/IO240/Phase II Flight Testing ---------------------------------


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    Time: 12:06:33 PM PST US
    From: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Goodbye "kitfox@sportflight.com".
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com> MSN has a great filtering system Dee, mine did the same. Just hit the 'not junk mail' tab and you'll be right. -j- From: "Dee Young" <HENRYSFORK1@MSN.COM> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Goodbye "kitfox@sportflight.com". -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <HENRYSFORK1@MSN.COM> Not sure why but most of the emails from the list are now showing up in my Junk Mail box. Am I doing something wrong here? ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul A. Franz, P.E. Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Goodbye "kitfox@sportflight.com". -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <PAUL@EUCLEIDES.COM> On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 14:10, dmorisse wrote: -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "dmorisse" <MORID@NORTHLAND.LIB.MI.US> You're most welcome Torgeir. Still a few stragglers, but things are smoothing out nicely. Darrel and Don List Janitors And the new list is beautiful. No more html postings since the tags ares being stripped so no tiny little pink writing or something odd to read. All the winmail.dats and vcards and other mail relics are deleted, no MS Mail "quoted printable" relics. The list is so nice now. I wish it had had this upgrade years ago. Thanks a lot guys for choosing up to date software on a reliable system. -- PAF Consulting Engineers | 427 - 140th Ave NE (425)641-8202 voice | Bellevue, WA 98005 (425)641-1773 fax | <mailto:paul@eucleides.com> GnuPG Public Key - <HTTP: pgpkey.asc eucleides.com> </mailto:paul@eucleides.com> With <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMAENNZ/2755??PS=">Xtra Jetstream - you don't need a separate phone line for the internet!


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    Time: 01:37:33 PM PST US
    From: LeRoy staley <itis50@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re:
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: LeRoy staley <itis50@yahoo.com> Jack, I went to a graphics place and they made me a scene of and airport and runway on material that resembles the sun screen that you would use in an auto for the rear side windows. It really helps keep u cooler and it looks really cool too. It sticks onto the plastic that is already there. Hasnt came loose in many hours. LeRoy --- Jack Seaford <jseaford@bellsouth.net> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jack Seaford" > <jseaford@bellsouth.net> > > Was wondering if anybody else gets hot in there > Kitfox? > They are like a green house. > Any ideas on blocking part of the sun, shades etc? > > Jack Seaford > jseaford@bellsouth.net > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > __________________________________


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    Time: 01:41:44 PM PST US
    From: "Ron" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re:
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron" <rliebmann@comcast.net> Hey Jack, I installed an overhead shade made by "Sunshade".. It can be retracted just like your shades at home. It is made like a tightly woven screen that lets a little light thru. Sure helps a lot. I also put window and side cowl vents in. I stay cool now. Ron N55KF Model 2 > Was wondering if anybody else gets hot in there Kitfox? > They are like a green house. > Any ideas on blocking part of the sun, shades etc? > > Jack Seaford > jseaford@bellsouth.net > > > Maxwell Duke > S6/IO240/Phase II Flight Testing > > --------------------------------- > > > >


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    Time: 02:08:49 PM PST US
    From: DC91840@aol.com
    Subject: Firewall forward
    at.a.big.ISP@matronics.com --> Kitfox-List message posted by: DC91840@aol.com HI there all: I am looking for a firewall forward kit or just a smooth cowling for a Classic IV with a Jabiru 3300 engine.Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.Don C. at: dc91840@aol.com


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    Time: 02:12:37 PM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Goodbye "kitfox@sportflight.com".
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> Thanks >From: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Goodbye "kitfox@sportflight.com". >Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:09:42 +1300 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" ><janderson412@hotmail.com> > > >MSN has a great filtering system Dee, mine did the same. Just hit the 'not >junk mail' tab and you'll be right. -j- > > >From: "Dee Young" <HENRYSFORK1@MSN.COM> >To: <KITFOX-LIST@MATRONICS.COM> >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Goodbye "kitfox@sportflight.com". >Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:17:53 -0800 > >-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <HENRYSFORK1@MSN.COM> > >Not sure why but most of the emails from the list are now showing up in my >Junk Mail box. Am I doing something wrong here? >----- Original Message ----- >From: Paul A. Franz, P.E. >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Goodbye "kitfox@sportflight.com". > > >-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." ><PAUL@EUCLEIDES.COM> > >On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 14:10, dmorisse wrote: > -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "dmorisse" <MORID@NORTHLAND.LIB.MI.US> > > You're most welcome Torgeir. Still a few stragglers, but things are > smoothing out nicely. > Darrel and Don > List Janitors > >And the new list is beautiful. No more html postings since the tags ares >being stripped so no tiny little pink writing or something odd to read. >All the winmail.dats and vcards and other mail relics are deleted, no MS >Mail "quoted printable" relics. The list is so nice now. I wish it had >had this upgrade years ago. > >Thanks a lot guys for choosing up to date software on a reliable system. > >-- >PAF Consulting Engineers | 427 - 140th Ave NE >(425)641-8202 voice | Bellevue, WA 98005 >(425)641-1773 fax | <mailto:paul@eucleides.com> >GnuPG Public Key - <HTTP: pgpkey.asc eucleides.com> > > ></mailto:paul@eucleides.com> >With <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMAENNZ/2755??PS=">Xtra Jetstream - you >don't need a separate phone line for the internet! > > Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage


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    Time: 02:32:03 PM PST US
    From: kitfoxpilot@att.net
    Subject: Re: carb adjustments
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxpilot@att.net Jim, Thanks abunch for your reply. I will enlist the help of a friend, to sit in the plane while I do the adjustments. Thanks Ray Gignac > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net> > > Ray > > You probably need to adjust the stop screws for the throttle cables so that > they can close the butterflys some more. The stop plates are adjusted > evenly and then the cables are adjusted to equal length by using a feeler > gauge between the stop plate and the throttle lever. The idle adjust screws > are turned a turn and a half out from full in. The carb balance gauges are > connected to the hose barbs next to the idle adjust screws. The crossover > tube is blocked between the carbs. (I pull the hose and tape the ends.) > The engine is run and the cables are adjusted for smooth idle by turning the > cable locking nuts in the cockpit tighter or looser to balance the synchro > gauge. The idle adjust screws are turned only if the cable adjustment is > too coarse for evening the synchro gauges. > > After the gauges are equal vacuum at idle (between 1800 and 2100 rpm) then > the throttle is opened and the vacuum should drop evenly. The engine is > returned to idle and the gauges should remain the even. This verifies > synchonicity. > > The engine is then slowed to minimimum smooth idle. about 1800 rpm. Then > the throttle stops are adjusted to the throttle lever position. This can be > done with the engine off. The throttle is left in the minimum smooth idle > position at engine shutdown and a feeler gauge is placed between the stop > plate and the throttle lever. I use about an 0.008. The stop plate is > advanced to the throttle lever until drag is felt on the feeler. Then the > carb on the other side is adjusted the same way. The feeler gauge used to > limit the movement of the stop plate to the throttle lever. When done > this way the stop plate is not touching on one side and affecting the > adjustment of the stop plate on the other side. > > Would help you if you lived a couple thousand miles closer. > > Jim Shumaker > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > To: "Kitfox List" <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Kitfox-List: carb adjustments > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > > > Bounced, sent to old List. > > Darrel > > List Janitor > > > > Tue, 18 Nov 2003 02:40:50 +0000 > > From: kitfoxpilot@att.net > > To: Kitfox@sportflight.com > > Subject: Carb Adjustments > > Is there anyone in or close to the Wash DC metro area that could assist me > > in > > proper carb adjustments for my 912S. I did the mech sync but my idle is > > way > > too high! I do have the guages to hook up to the carbs and make the > > adjustments while engine is running, but could use the help of an expert. > > Anyone? > > Ray Gignac > > (301) 518-2262 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:19:11 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
    Subject: Re: Motor mount and Cowlings
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> Grant,,, Have you had any experience with the FWF materials from Great Plains. Bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grant Fluent" <gjfpilot@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Motor mount and Cowlings > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com> > > Bob, > > Check out Great Plains Aircraft: > http://www.greatplainsas.com/pg52.html > > Grant Fluent > Newcastle, NE > Classic IV > > > --- Bob Unternaehrer <shilocom@c-magic.com> wrote: > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob > > Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> > > > > I'm looking for a Firewall forward kit for the > > Kitfox IV using the VW engine.. Does anyone know who > > makes the smooth cowl that fits the Mod IV and a > > Motor mount. > > > > Blue Skies > > Bob Unternaehrer > > > > > > > > Contributions > > any other > > Forums. > > > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]


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    Time: 05:13:03 PM PST US
    From: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
    Subject: Re: Series 6 Trim Indicator
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com> John & Others, It seems to be a common problem on the Series 5 and 6 Kitfoxe's. I will make one more attempt to substitute other materials, to make it work, otherwise I will do what some suggest. That is to place a mark on the vertical fin for takeoff position. . I agree that other than for a pre takeoff instance the trim is done by feel. I am one of those weird guys who doesn't want anything on my airplane that doesn't work. If it doesn't work and isn't needed, I remove it. That even goes for the pilot. -- John King Warrenton, VA JMCBEAN wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net> > >The trim indicator is the same for the 5 and 6. I simply put a mark on the >vertical for takeoff position.... Other then that the trim is done by feel >anyway. > >I think the cable slips... that what had happened on the Series 6..... > >Blue Skies!! >John & Debra McBean >"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clifford Begnaud >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Series 6 Trim Indicator > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" ><shoeless@barefootpilot.com> > >I think it's the same, but not sure. Ask John M. >Cliff > >Cliff, > >Is the Series 5 trim system indicator the same design as that of the >Series 6? I am specifically talking about the trim indicator, not the >trim system. > >-- >John King >Warrenton, VA > > >


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    Time: 05:24:36 PM PST US
    From: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
    Subject: Re: trim indicator
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com> Alberto, If I knew of the problem at the time I was building my Series 6, I would have done the same thing. However, now that it is flying I don't want to redesign the system to the point the center console has to be modified to fit in a different indicator. If I can't find a better control cable linkage, I will remove the current control cable linkage and do a visual for takeoff. Two list members have given me some ideas I will look into. -- John King Warrenton, VA Alberto Barba wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Alberto Barba" <ambarba@infosel.net.mx> > >John same problem Im working in electronic indicator > > >Alberto Barba >Serie 6 282 Hrs. > > > >


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    Time: 07:25:35 PM PST US
    From: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Motor mount and Cowlings
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com> Bob, No, I don't have any experience with their FWF materials. I talked to them at Oshkosh a few years ago. Their engines were a little heavier than the Rotaxes and I don't think the climb rates are as good. That may well have changed in the past couple of years though. They were alot cheaper though. Less than 1/2 the cost of a Rotax. Grant Fluent Newcastle,NE Classic IV --- Bob Unternaehrer <shilocom@c-magic.com> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob > Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> > > Grant,,, Have you had any experience with the FWF > materials from Great > Plains. Bob U. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grant Fluent" <gjfpilot@yahoo.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Motor mount and Cowlings > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent > <gjfpilot@yahoo.com> > > > > Bob, > > > > Check out Great Plains Aircraft: > > http://www.greatplainsas.com/pg52.html > > > > Grant Fluent > > Newcastle, NE > > Classic IV > > > > > > --- Bob Unternaehrer <shilocom@c-magic.com> wrote: > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob > > > Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> > > > > > > I'm looking for a Firewall forward kit for the > > > Kitfox IV using the VW engine.. Does anyone know > who > > > makes the smooth cowl that fits the Mod IV and a > > > Motor mount. > > > > > > Blue Skies > > > Bob Unternaehrer > > > > > > > > > > > > Contributions > > > any other > > > Forums. > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > __________________________________ Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/


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    Time: 09:41:59 PM PST US
    From: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: carb adjustments
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net> Ray While working around the Prop it is always a good idea to walk to the wing tip before moving away from the wing to walk around. Not just to keep plenty of distance between you and the prop, it also gives distance from any debri that might be slung by the prop. What kind of balance gauges do you have? Have fun and be careful. Jim Shumaker ----- Original Message ----- From: <kitfoxpilot@att.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: carb adjustments > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxpilot@att.net > > Jim, > > Thanks abunch for your reply. I will enlist the help of a friend, to sit in > the plane while I do the adjustments. > > Thanks > > Ray Gignac > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net> > > > > Ray > > > > You probably need to adjust the stop screws for the throttle cables so that > > they can close the butterflys some more. The stop plates are adjusted > > evenly and then the cables are adjusted to equal length by using a feeler > > gauge between the stop plate and the throttle lever. The idle adjust screws > > are turned a turn and a half out from full in. The carb balance gauges are > > connected to the hose barbs next to the idle adjust screws. The crossover > > tube is blocked between the carbs. (I pull the hose and tape the ends.) > > The engine is run and the cables are adjusted for smooth idle by turning the > > cable locking nuts in the cockpit tighter or looser to balance the synchro > > gauge. The idle adjust screws are turned only if the cable adjustment is > > too coarse for evening the synchro gauges. > > > > After the gauges are equal vacuum at idle (between 1800 and 2100 rpm) then > > the throttle is opened and the vacuum should drop evenly. The engine is > > returned to idle and the gauges should remain the even. This verifies > > synchonicity. > > > > The engine is then slowed to minimimum smooth idle. about 1800 rpm. Then > > the throttle stops are adjusted to the throttle lever position. This can be > > done with the engine off. The throttle is left in the minimum smooth idle > > position at engine shutdown and a feeler gauge is placed between the stop > > plate and the throttle lever. I use about an 0.008. The stop plate is > > advanced to the throttle lever until drag is felt on the feeler. Then the > > carb on the other side is adjusted the same way. The feeler gauge used to > > limit the movement of the stop plate to the throttle lever. When done > > this way the stop plate is not touching on one side and affecting the > > adjustment of the stop plate on the other side. > > > > Would help you if you lived a couple thousand miles closer. > > > > Jim Shumaker > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > To: "Kitfox List" <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Kitfox-List: carb adjustments > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > > > > > Bounced, sent to old List. > > > Darrel > > > List Janitor > > > > > > Tue, 18 Nov 2003 02:40:50 +0000 > > > From: kitfoxpilot@att.net > > > To: Kitfox@sportflight.com > > > Subject: Carb Adjustments > > > Is there anyone in or close to the Wash DC metro area that could assist me > > > in > > > proper carb adjustments for my 912S. I did the mech sync but my idle is > > > way > > > too high! I do have the guages to hook up to the carbs and make the > > > adjustments while engine is running, but could use the help of an expert. > > > Anyone? > > > Ray Gignac > > > (301) 518-2262 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:38:06 PM PST US
    From: "Ron Carroll" <RonCarr@qwest.net>
    Subject: Another 'Latest update' Re; Newbie flaperon problrm
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Carroll" <RonCarr@Qwest.Net> I 'think' I sent this to the wrong list, so here it is again. Enjoy it again! After some phone calls and visits I believe we are zeroing in on the cause of my flaperon problem. The right flaperon has a lot of 'give' or 'flex' in it when under dynamic load. It now appears that the flaperons were factory built using about a dozen Styrofoam ribs. The ribs, each about 3" wide, are spaced and glued inside the flaperons, with one on each side of each hinge. As we know, the hinges come through holes in the top of the flaperons to connect to the rib tails. These holes in the top of the flaperon are open so that liquids can go through them and enter the inside of the flaperon. One such 'liquid' being fuel that runs down the wing if an overfill occurs, or the cap leaks. This fuel literally 'melts' the Styrofoam into nothingness, leaving no support or holding contact for the flaperon skin to spar. I drilled out the rivets along the trailing edge of the flaperon to find the melted remains of the ribs lying inside making no contact, supporting nothing. Because SkyStar no longer sells replacement flaperons I will have to make do with what I have. To repair this condition I have a couple of options. The first is to make new Styrofoam ribs that will again melt as soon as fuel touches them. To protect the ribs from fuel I am considering the option of brushing on a coat of epoxy resin (I believe the epoxy resin will not damage the Styrofoam, but will test it tomorrow), then gluing the protected ribs to the skin & spar. My question at this time is: What would you consider to be a good bonding glue for securing the ribs to the skin & spar that wouldn't damage the ribs or aluminum parts? If the use of new Styrofoam ribs is not a good option I may then consider the use of spray-foam, as used in home construction. The foam would fill the void inside the skin, and adhere to the skin & spar. My fear is that the foam may try to expand faster than it can escape from the confined space, resulting in distorted skins. Also, I'm not sure if the foam would attack the aluminum parts. Any experience with this? I would appreciate hearing from anyone with ideas, opinions, or experience with this type of repair work, especially in regard to glues & adhesives, and their reaction to gasoline. I would like to recommend that all of us avoid any kind of fuel overflow from our wing tanks. Also check the gaskets on your gas caps. I'm surprised this has not been a problem to any of you up until this time, but now is the time to take steps to avoid it. I will keep you posted on how this works out. Thanks, Ron Carroll KF3 - In Oregon




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