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1. 08:14 AM - Re: FW: 912UL Spark Plugs (Wwillyard@aol.com)
2. 08:31 AM - Re: FW: 912UL Spark Plugs (doug kulick)
3. 08:33 AM - bungee cord replacement life (doug kulick)
4. 12:01 PM - Re: FW: 912UL Spark Plugs (John E. King)
5. 12:46 PM - Mechanic Privledges and Limitations. (Torgeir Mortensen)
6. 01:32 PM - Re: Oil spill over (kurt schrader)
7. 03:40 PM - Re: FW: 912UL Spark Plugs (Jeffrey Puls)
8. 03:43 PM - Re: Oil spill over (Rick)
9. 04:37 PM - Re: CG (JMCBEAN)
10. 04:56 PM - bungee cords on model v 1200 (doug kulick)
11. 05:19 PM - Re: Leo Rice (JMCBEAN)
12. 05:44 PM - Re: FW: 912UL Spark Plugs (Jay Fabian)
13. 05:45 PM - Re: Mechanic Privledges and Limitations. (RiteAngle3@aol.com)
14. 05:51 PM - fabric (Tom Maier)
15. 06:55 PM - Re: Bungee Gear (JMCBEAN)
16. 06:55 PM - Re: fabric (JMCBEAN)
17. 10:45 PM - Re: Bungee Gear (RiteAngle3@aol.com)
18. 10:51 PM - Re: FW: 912UL Spark Plugs (SOURDOSTAN@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: FW: 912UL Spark Plugs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Wwillyard@aol.com
In a message dated 11/24/2003 12:11:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,
donpearsall@comcast.net writes:
> Hey Everyone,
> I need a new set of spark plugs. Has anyone had a local auto store cross
> match the Rotax plug numbers and order a set? Do they work OK? I'm not doing
> it so much to save money but for convenience. Thanks, Jeff Puls
>
>
>
I ordered mine from http://www.ngk.com/ I thought that the price was OK and
delivered to my door was convenient.
Bill Wiliyard
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| Subject: | Re: FW: 912UL Spark Plugs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "doug kulick" <kitfoxjet@hotmail.com>
Hi Don: I ordered a set from skystar and they came in about two days.. just
like to support the company when i can... the change out removed a small
miss.... of course my original plugs had ten yrs of time wating for the
frist flight so at 80 hours of operation i ordered the ones from skystar
cheers , Doug Kulick
>From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: FW: 912UL Spark Plugs
>Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:09:08 -0800
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
>Sent to old address by mistake.
>Don
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
>To: "Kitfox List" <Kitfox@sportflight.com>
>Subject: 912UL Spark Plugs
>Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:37:21 -0500
>
>Hey Everyone,
>I need a new set of spark plugs. Has anyone had a local auto store cross
>match the Rotax plug numbers and order a set? Do they work OK? I'm not
>doing
>it so much to save money but for convenience. Thanks, Jeff Puls
>
>
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and more here. http://special.msn.com/entertainment/wiredformusic.armx
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| Subject: | bungee cord replacement life |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "doug kulick" <kitfoxjet@hotmail.com>
HI all: Need your info on life to bungee cords for my model 1200 912
4.....changed my set at 100 hours and they had 2 inches of streach... any
advise .. thanks cheers Doug Kulick
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| Subject: | Re: FW: 912UL Spark Plugs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
Jeff,
I order my plugs from the local Carquest automotive store. Provide them
with your NGK plug type and they can order them if not in stock
(probably won't be). I have a 912S (NGK Type DCPR8E) that uses
different plugs than your 912UL. Just make sure they know that the NGK
plugs you want have the threaded shaft and not the rounded clip type.
In the latest ones I just ordered the rounded clip was removable,
exposing the threaded shaft.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Don Pearsall wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
>Sent to old address by mistake.
>Don
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
>To: "Kitfox List" <Kitfox@sportflight.com>
>Subject: 912UL Spark Plugs
>Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:37:21 -0500
>
>Hey Everyone,
>I need a new set of spark plugs. Has anyone had a local auto store cross
>match the Rotax plug numbers and order a set? Do they work OK? I'm not doing
>it so much to save money but for convenience. Thanks, Jeff Puls
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Mechanic Privledges and Limitations. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Found this around:
65.104 Repairman certificate - experimental aircraft builder -
Eligibility, privileges and limitations.
Here is the link (just roll down to the end of text):
http://www.ec.erau.edu/cce/centers/edwards/Amt240/Topic18presentation.htm#ar
Some questions to answer (?).
http://www.ec.erau.edu/cce/centers/edwards/Amt240/Schedule.htm
Here is a little about the stuff we are using.. :) .. :
http://www.ec.erau.edu/cce/centers/edwards/Amt240/Topic9presentation.htm#top
Torgeir.
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| Subject: | Re: Oil spill over |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Thanks Steve,
Whew, I am really busy now. Hard to get a moment to
get on this list at all and I need to give some
replies.
My engine does not have the remote tank. It uses the
automotive pan and only addes the remote filter,
cooler and an air/oil seperator. The seperator is
feed off the heads and drains back into the pan. The
oil burps out the top.
I think my friend/test pilot, that has a 4 just like
yours, may be right about mine. I am using 20w50 oil
due to the turbo heat. It barely maintains idle
pressure when hot, so I need the thick oil. But when
cold the thick oil may not drain back to the pan fast
enough and gets burped out when I power up.
Other possibilities are that the rings are not yet
seated and I get blowby, or that I will have to run a
quart low all the time.
Right now is the busy season for us UPS guys. Then in
January I have my annual training to study for,
Christmas shopping to do, work, and just life. Don't
think I'll be able to get to the plane again until the
end of January, so solution testing will have to wait.
But you are right, I am not the only one with this
problem, so I'll test each theory out and see what
works.
Thanks again,
Kurt S.
--- Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski
> <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
> Kurt
>
> Congratulations!
>
> I have a non-turbo'd NSI-EA81. I'm not sure of the
> similarities/differences
> to your engine, but I'll tell you my experience. I'm
> not completely sure of
> what causes the burping back of oil, but this
> phenomenon is not unique to
> your engine. Lance will confirm of course, but I
> seem to recall that there
> is a check-valve in the oil line that occasionally
> opens when the engine is
> parked. A quart or two of oil flows back into the
> engine. As soon as you
> start the engine, the oil all gets pumped back into
> the remote oil tank and
> all is well. That is, unless you checked your oil
> dipstick and added a
> couple of quarts, in which case you get a big
> eruption of oil out of the top
> of the oil tank as soon as you start the engine.
> The trick is to recognize
> that these engines do not burn much oil at all. If
> it indicates a major
> drop after sitting for a few days, start the engine
> for a minute or two and
> then check again.
>
> SteveZ
> Calgary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On
> Behalf Of kurt
> schrader
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: My first "test" flight
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> If you all remember, I got my tailwheel sign-off
> Thursday out in Portland, OR. I planned to get more
> time in the local club's Citabra and Champ before
> flying my KF, but my friend/instructor told me to
> fly
> mine ASAP. He said those others just aren't "high
> performance" planes and I needed to stay with what
> he
> taught me. But since returning to KY, the wx has
> been
> pretty bad. Certainly not first flight wx.
>
> I was also worried about not having my plane
> insured.
> Couldn't seem to get that without at least 10, and
> better yet, 20 hrs of tailwheel time. And they
> wanted
> it in the same series KF with the same engine!
> Heck,
> how many KF-5 tail draggers are out there with an
> NSI
> turbo who want to instruct?
>
> Yesterday it rained and was windy. I fiddled with a
> small oil seep from my friends first flight in my
> plane. Braded oil line going into the cooler. It
> was
> almost a quart low too. I stuck in half a quart due
> to the oil running hot in flight. A little more oil
> to absorbe the heat I thought. Then I left it like
> that with the cowl off and did an engine run. No
> leaks, but it ran cold. Needed radiator tape. I'll
> do that Sunday...
>
> Well, today the weather lifted enough in the
> afternoon
> for me to get in a short flight. Thought about it
> and
> decided that I'd just go for it so I could call my
> dad
> and let him know. No guts - no glory. 2,800
> overcast, but light winds and in the 40's. Good for
> my hot running oil temp. Then the "little" problems
> came up....
>
> I had about 4 gal, plus the header fuel on board, so
> I
> went to the gas station to get 5 more gal to give me
> a
> comfort factor for the flight. Darn, the fuel
> pumped
> so slowly I pulled the pump handle out for a look.
> Foam, suds, squirt, cough, cough. The stations tank
> must be near empty. Ok, that stuff will go in my
> van
> instead. No telling what is coming out of the
> bottom
> of the tank. Definately not first flight juice!
>
> And now it was getting too late to get more gas
> elsewhere, so the flight will just have to be
> shorter.
> Maybe just a few takeoffs and landings. I still
> had
> to put the cowl back on and move planes out of the
> hangar to get at mine... Plus a few little things
> to
> do, like tape off some of the radiator due to the
> temp
> drop.
>
> Well, I did get it ready with maybe 20 minutes of
> daylight left. Started ok. Taxi was interesting.
> Soon the bottom of the wings on both sides were wet
> just below the tanks. Did I leave the tank caps
> off?
> Actually, having trained on pavement, I forgot about
> the grass being wet. No wheel pants and so... wet
> wings. Then the windscreen fogged up. Glad I
> installed a defrost fan. It helped a little, but I
> was so steamed from rushing to move the planes, it
> went slowly fighting me.
>
> Runup went fine. Seemed like no drop at all between
> ignitions. :-) I did it again just to be sure.
>
> Takeoff was very smooth and straight. No wiggles at
> all like I had on the pavement practicing in
> Portland.
> Did it all by feel never looking in for airspeed or
> RPM. That was a very pleasant surprise. :-))
> Thanks
> Gerry for making me fly ASAP.
>
> Then, right in front of me and not 20 feet airborne,
> a
> flock of birds decided to launch from off the side
> of
> the runway and block my path. :-( I zoom climbed
> to
> just clear the top one - out climbed them - and
> looked
> in at my ASI for the first time. 40 KIAS! And it
> felt
> very stable! :-))) I estimate I was initially at
> 55-60 KIAS and traded off 15 or so. First airborne
> hurdle jumped. Any higher though and I would have
> had
> to take out a bird or two.
>
> I had maybe 300 feet by the end of the 2,500 ft
> runway. Nice! I climbed to 1500' or 700 AGL to
> turn
> downwind and set up 80 KIAS with a safe distance
> from
> the runway to land quickly if I needed to. Now time
> for some engine readings. - Gosh this thing drives
> like a BMW! :-))) I call for the record keeping to
> start. First entry 80 KIAS. Fiddle with the prop
> control to lower RPM and EGT. 1500, dropped to 1400
> egt. Looks good enough to read the rest of the
> gages.
>
> Hey, what's that. About a cup of oil on the right
> side floor boards! Oil streaming across the bottom
> half of the right door! Oil on my checklist on the
> right seat! On my glasses!
>
> I call, "Got an oil leak. Coming back." Looking in
> again to check oil temp and pressure. Maybe 50 psi
> and 185 degrees. Seems OK, but am I running out of
> oil? Best set up for an engine out landing. Maybe
> that braded line broke...
>
> Looking outside, where the heck is the airport?
> That
> thing is always hard to find. Turn back to find it.
> Looks just like any other farm field. I'm lost!
> Call
> ground for a spot. Yes, pointed right at the field.
> Flashing headlights. Ah ha! I am at a high 90.
> Good
> enough to glide if I need to. Wip it over and come
> on
> down. Trim for 60 Kias. Gosh, except for the oil
> "leak", this flies really nice. Wish I had time to
> enjoy it. Darn.
>
> Slip a little to land.... Used maybe 1200' due to
> still a bit fast. Really didn't know the stall
> speed
> yet so I'll accept fast. Three bounces landing up
> hill. :-( Heck, I was lined up and just wanted to
>
=== message truncated ===
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| Subject: | Re: FW: 912UL Spark Plugs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Thanks for the help everyone.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: FW: 912UL Spark Plugs
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
>
> Jeff,
>
> I order my plugs from the local Carquest automotive store. Provide them
> with your NGK plug type and they can order them if not in stock
> (probably won't be). I have a 912S (NGK Type DCPR8E) that uses
> different plugs than your 912UL. Just make sure they know that the NGK
> plugs you want have the threaded shaft and not the rounded clip type.
> In the latest ones I just ordered the rounded clip was removable,
> exposing the threaded shaft.
>
> --
> John King
> Warrenton, VA
>
> Don Pearsall wrote:
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
<donpearsall@comcast.net>
> >
> >Sent to old address by mistake.
> >Don
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
> >To: "Kitfox List" <Kitfox@sportflight.com>
> >Subject: 912UL Spark Plugs
> >Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:37:21 -0500
> >
> >Hey Everyone,
> >I need a new set of spark plugs. Has anyone had a local auto store cross
> >match the Rotax plug numbers and order a set? Do they work OK? I'm not
doing
> >it so much to save money but for convenience. Thanks, Jeff Puls
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Kurt look on sportflight hot of my vent system. Took Toms and added a bit.
Works well. Dont let the oil pressure get below 30 or your going to be
rebuilding for a spun main bearing.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kurt
schrader
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oil spill over
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Thanks Steve,
Whew, I am really busy now. Hard to get a moment to
get on this list at all and I need to give some
replies.
My engine does not have the remote tank. It uses the
automotive pan and only addes the remote filter,
cooler and an air/oil seperator. The seperator is
feed off the heads and drains back into the pan. The
oil burps out the top.
I think my friend/test pilot, that has a 4 just like
yours, may be right about mine. I am using 20w50 oil
due to the turbo heat. It barely maintains idle
pressure when hot, so I need the thick oil. But when
cold the thick oil may not drain back to the pan fast
enough and gets burped out when I power up.
Other possibilities are that the rings are not yet
seated and I get blowby, or that I will have to run a
quart low all the time.
Right now is the busy season for us UPS guys. Then in
January I have my annual training to study for,
Christmas shopping to do, work, and just life. Don't
think I'll be able to get to the plane again until the
end of January, so solution testing will have to wait.
But you are right, I am not the only one with this
problem, so I'll test each theory out and see what
works.
Thanks again,
Kurt S.
--- Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski
> <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
> Kurt
>
> Congratulations!
>
> I have a non-turbo'd NSI-EA81. I'm not sure of the
> similarities/differences
> to your engine, but I'll tell you my experience. I'm
> not completely sure of
> what causes the burping back of oil, but this
> phenomenon is not unique to
> your engine. Lance will confirm of course, but I
> seem to recall that there
> is a check-valve in the oil line that occasionally
> opens when the engine is
> parked. A quart or two of oil flows back into the
> engine. As soon as you
> start the engine, the oil all gets pumped back into
> the remote oil tank and
> all is well. That is, unless you checked your oil
> dipstick and added a
> couple of quarts, in which case you get a big
> eruption of oil out of the top
> of the oil tank as soon as you start the engine.
> The trick is to recognize
> that these engines do not burn much oil at all. If
> it indicates a major
> drop after sitting for a few days, start the engine
> for a minute or two and
> then check again.
>
> SteveZ
> Calgary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On
> Behalf Of kurt
> schrader
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: My first "test" flight
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> If you all remember, I got my tailwheel sign-off
> Thursday out in Portland, OR. I planned to get more
> time in the local club's Citabra and Champ before
> flying my KF, but my friend/instructor told me to
> fly
> mine ASAP. He said those others just aren't "high
> performance" planes and I needed to stay with what
> he
> taught me. But since returning to KY, the wx has
> been
> pretty bad. Certainly not first flight wx.
>
> I was also worried about not having my plane
> insured.
> Couldn't seem to get that without at least 10, and
> better yet, 20 hrs of tailwheel time. And they
> wanted
> it in the same series KF with the same engine!
> Heck,
> how many KF-5 tail draggers are out there with an
> NSI
> turbo who want to instruct?
>
> Yesterday it rained and was windy. I fiddled with a
> small oil seep from my friends first flight in my
> plane. Braded oil line going into the cooler. It
> was
> almost a quart low too. I stuck in half a quart due
> to the oil running hot in flight. A little more oil
> to absorbe the heat I thought. Then I left it like
> that with the cowl off and did an engine run. No
> leaks, but it ran cold. Needed radiator tape. I'll
> do that Sunday...
>
> Well, today the weather lifted enough in the
> afternoon
> for me to get in a short flight. Thought about it
> and
> decided that I'd just go for it so I could call my
> dad
> and let him know. No guts - no glory. 2,800
> overcast, but light winds and in the 40's. Good for
> my hot running oil temp. Then the "little" problems
> came up....
>
> I had about 4 gal, plus the header fuel on board, so
> I
> went to the gas station to get 5 more gal to give me
> a
> comfort factor for the flight. Darn, the fuel
> pumped
> so slowly I pulled the pump handle out for a look.
> Foam, suds, squirt, cough, cough. The stations tank
> must be near empty. Ok, that stuff will go in my
> van
> instead. No telling what is coming out of the
> bottom
> of the tank. Definately not first flight juice!
>
> And now it was getting too late to get more gas
> elsewhere, so the flight will just have to be
> shorter.
> Maybe just a few takeoffs and landings. I still
> had
> to put the cowl back on and move planes out of the
> hangar to get at mine... Plus a few little things
> to
> do, like tape off some of the radiator due to the
> temp
> drop.
>
> Well, I did get it ready with maybe 20 minutes of
> daylight left. Started ok. Taxi was interesting.
> Soon the bottom of the wings on both sides were wet
> just below the tanks. Did I leave the tank caps
> off?
> Actually, having trained on pavement, I forgot about
> the grass being wet. No wheel pants and so... wet
> wings. Then the windscreen fogged up. Glad I
> installed a defrost fan. It helped a little, but I
> was so steamed from rushing to move the planes, it
> went slowly fighting me.
>
> Runup went fine. Seemed like no drop at all between
> ignitions. :-) I did it again just to be sure.
>
> Takeoff was very smooth and straight. No wiggles at
> all like I had on the pavement practicing in
> Portland.
> Did it all by feel never looking in for airspeed or
> RPM. That was a very pleasant surprise. :-))
> Thanks
> Gerry for making me fly ASAP.
>
> Then, right in front of me and not 20 feet airborne,
> a
> flock of birds decided to launch from off the side
> of
> the runway and block my path. :-( I zoom climbed
> to
> just clear the top one - out climbed them - and
> looked
> in at my ASI for the first time. 40 KIAS! And it
> felt
> very stable! :-))) I estimate I was initially at
> 55-60 KIAS and traded off 15 or so. First airborne
> hurdle jumped. Any higher though and I would have
> had
> to take out a bird or two.
>
> I had maybe 300 feet by the end of the 2,500 ft
> runway. Nice! I climbed to 1500' or 700 AGL to
> turn
> downwind and set up 80 KIAS with a safe distance
> from
> the runway to land quickly if I needed to. Now time
> for some engine readings. - Gosh this thing drives
> like a BMW! :-))) I call for the record keeping to
> start. First entry 80 KIAS. Fiddle with the prop
> control to lower RPM and EGT. 1500, dropped to 1400
> egt. Looks good enough to read the rest of the
> gages.
>
> Hey, what's that. About a cup of oil on the right
> side floor boards! Oil streaming across the bottom
> half of the right door! Oil on my checklist on the
> right seat! On my glasses!
>
> I call, "Got an oil leak. Coming back." Looking in
> again to check oil temp and pressure. Maybe 50 psi
> and 185 degrees. Seems OK, but am I running out of
> oil? Best set up for an engine out landing. Maybe
> that braded line broke...
>
> Looking outside, where the heck is the airport?
> That
> thing is always hard to find. Turn back to find it.
> Looks just like any other farm field. I'm lost!
> Call
> ground for a spot. Yes, pointed right at the field.
> Flashing headlights. Ah ha! I am at a high 90.
> Good
> enough to glide if I need to. Wip it over and come
> on
> down. Trim for 60 Kias. Gosh, except for the oil
> "leak", this flies really nice. Wish I had time to
> enjoy it. Darn.
>
> Slip a little to land.... Used maybe 1200' due to
> still a bit fast. Really didn't know the stall
> speed
> yet so I'll accept fast. Three bounces landing up
> hill. :-( Heck, I was lined up and just wanted to
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
John,
Visit the Desert Fox web site www.desertfoxsquadron.org tech hanger.
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Balunda
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:CG
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Balunda" <JohnCA58@pacbell.net>
Does anyone have a CG range form for a KitFox S7 Lycoming or continental
tail dragger
John
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| Subject: | bungee cords on model v 1200 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "doug kulick" <kitfoxjet@hotmail.com>
Hi All: whats the recommended replacement on bungee cords for landing gear
on model 1200-4 912. i replaced mine at 100 hours and they had one loop
tightining at 25 hours and at 100 hours had streached to 2 inches longer
then the replacements.. please advise.. thanks doug kulick
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Lowell,
Thank you for the update on Leo..... Please pass our hellos next time your
there.
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Subject: Kitfox-List: Leo Rice
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
I just spent a pleasant couple of hours with one of the senior members of
the list - Leo Rice. He looks good, but shows the strain from his
chemotherapy and of course from the recurrence of his colon cancer. His
spirits are good, but from what he said, I suspect he is in significant pain
from time to time. He is at home under hospice care and is pretty much
confined to bed with an occasional moment or two in a wheel chair.
He has sold his Series 5 and his hangar, so is now out of the active part of
aviation, this mostly due to his reluctance to endure once again the medical
fiasco he went through after the first bout with his cancer. However his
love for anything aviation is still strong.
He has removed himself from the list, at least for a time as he has
difficulty sitting at his computer, but may return using a laptop that his
daughter - de-bugged while I was there. With out a doubt, Leo was one of
the true gentlemen of the list. He built a truly fine airplane with a lot
of thought and attention to detail and was always generous with his help and
advice to all of us. I think one of his better innovations was his W / B
solution to the (heavy) engine problem - IO-235. He permanently mounted a
small metal toolbox at the rear of his baggage sack and filled it with
enough bagged lead shot to get the airplane into the CG range. When He and
Lola traveled, out came the bags of shot and in went the luggage maintaining
the CG without having the ballast cutting into his payload. This was all
legalized by proper plackarding and documentation.
For those that know him from personal contact or through the list, let's
keep him in our thoughts and prayers as he battles through this difficult
time.
Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: FW: 912UL Spark Plugs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian" <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
I got mine from Advanced Auto parts a few months ago. 1-877-808-0698 NGK
# 3932 , for the 912 UL cost me $1.70 each and they can ship to you in a
few days also.
They work fine too.
Jay Fabian
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mechanic Privledges and Limitations. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com
Gentlemen,
As US pilots and homebuilders I find it pretty sad when a builder in Norway
knows more about the US FAR's than do builders here in the states! Remember it
is you who is responsible!
I'm not pointing any fingers, there are no dumb questions, however in the end
when the FAA ask ~ it is your responsibility to know the regulations, not
only in flying but in building. Cover yourself, be knowledgeable. A phone call
to the local FSDO or a visit to the FAA website will have the answer
immediately.
Elbie
old CFI
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tom Maier" <maierfam@cac.net>
Hi, I'm a prospective Kitfox builder and am still in the research phase. If anyone
could tell me the average life of the fabric covering of the airplane and
also what the effects of weather (ramp tiedown) would have on its lifespan, I
would appreciate it. Tom Maier.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Dee,
I wouldnt recommend it. Although they are very tight to start
with there is still some elasticity. If that is gone or at its limit then
it just breaks.
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: Dee Young [mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com]
Subject: Bungee Gear
John, my bungee's are getting pretty loose. Is it an exceptable practice to
use an extra wrap (7)?
Thanks
Dee Young
Model II N345DY
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Tom,
Depends on the fabric. I believe Poly-fiber says... if done by the book
then the fabric is good for 20 years outside.
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom Maier
Subject: Kitfox-List: fabric
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tom Maier" <maierfam@cac.net>
Hi, I'm a prospective Kitfox builder and am still in the research phase. If
anyone could tell me the average life of the fabric covering of the airplane
and also what the effects of weather (ramp tiedown) would have on its
lifespan, I would appreciate it. Tom Maier.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com
Bungee Cord info
Advisory Circular Info from Advisory Circular 43.13-1B
(AC 43.13 -1B) there is a chart that gives the date mfg., which is denoted
by colored threads in the bungee. (If they are certified bungees) This code
is listed in Chapter 9, Table 9-1. This chapter also states:
"A rubber shock (bungee) cord for shock absorption must be inspected for
age, fraying of braided sheath, narrowing (necking) of the cord, and wear at
points of contact with the structure and stretch. If the age of the shock
cord is near 5 years or more, it is advisable to replace it with a new cord. A
cord that shows other defects should be replaced, regardless of age."
Due to this the color codes are repeated every 5 years. I'll be glad to
e-mail this code to anybody if they let me know off list. takes a bit of
typing :-)
I have heard of "new" bungee cords ordered and being within a few months of
the 5 year life, so if a certified bungee, check the "date" to insure you are
getting your money's worth!
Elbie
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| Subject: | Re: FW: 912UL Spark Plugs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: SOURDOSTAN@aol.com
I order my NGK DCPR7E's from my local Advance Auto Parts Store. They get
them in the next day for $1.39 each. I don't know where their stores are located
around the country, but I think their warehouse is in Kansas City or St.
Louis, so should be in the Midwest.
Stan Specht
Model IV Speedster
Rotax 912 UL
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