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1. 02:19 AM - Re: Now Prop info needed (broschart)
2. 03:08 AM - Re: Wheels & skis (Michel Verheughe)
3. 03:27 AM - Re: First Flight N913KF (Michel Verheughe)
4. 03:28 AM - Tailwheel ski WAS: Short flight (Michel Verheughe)
5. 03:36 AM - Avid skis (Michel Verheughe)
6. 03:38 AM - Re: Wheels & skis (Jim Burke)
7. 03:39 AM - Re: Re: Fuel pumps (Michel Verheughe)
8. 03:53 AM - Re: First Flight N913KF (dmorisse)
9. 04:01 AM - Re: Wheels & skis (gene m. calkins)
10. 04:25 AM - Re: First Flight N913KF (gene m. calkins)
11. 04:45 AM - Re: Tailwheel ski WAS: Short flight (gene m. calkins)
12. 05:00 AM - Re: Tailwheel ski WAS: Short flight (Jim Burke)
13. 05:10 AM - Skis (dmorisse)
14. 06:18 AM - Re: Skis (Michel Verheughe)
15. 06:53 AM - Re: insurance price adjustment (charles b cook)
16. 07:01 AM - Re: Avid skis (Jerry Liles)
17. 07:13 AM - Kuntselman strobes (dmorisse)
18. 08:14 AM - Re: Kuntselman strobes (Michel Verheughe)
19. 08:15 AM - Re: Avid skis (Michel Verheughe)
20. 09:26 AM - Re: First Flight N913KF (Ron Carroll)
21. 10:06 AM - Re: First Flight N913KF (JMCBEAN)
22. 10:33 AM - Re: Now Prop info needed (Ron Carroll)
23. 10:33 AM - Re: Kuntselman strobes (Jay & Beverly Carter)
24. 10:39 AM - Re: Kuntselman strobes (Torgeir Mortensen)
25. 10:40 AM - Re: insurance price adjustment (Roger McConnell)
26. 10:50 AM - Re: Kuntselman strobes (cnichols)
27. 12:07 PM - Re: Kuntselman strobes (dmorisse)
28. 01:11 PM - Kuntzleman strobes (cnichols)
29. 02:04 PM - Re: S6 Wheel Pants (Jay & Beverly Carter)
30. 03:30 PM - Re: Avid skis (Jerry Liles)
31. 04:39 PM - Bird Strike (dmorisse)
32. 05:16 PM - Rotax Engine Sale (Steve Gandy)
33. 05:43 PM - Re: ATC Towers (RiteAngle3@aol.com)
34. 06:12 PM - Re: Rotax Engine Sale (Roger McConnell)
35. 06:45 PM - Re: Rotax Engine Sale (Roger McConnell)
36. 06:56 PM - Re: Avid skis (Bob Unternaehrer)
37. 07:45 PM - Re: Avid skis (gene m. calkins)
38. 07:45 PM - Re: Avid skis (Trey Moran)
39. 08:20 PM - Re: Avid skis (Jerry Liles)
40. 09:42 PM - Re: Kuntzleman strobes (RiteAngle3@aol.com)
41. 09:58 PM - Re: First Flight N913KF (John E. King)
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| Subject: | Re: Now Prop info needed |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: broschart <cfbflyer@localnet.com>
i think you would like the Powerfin prop's feeler gage adjustment method
better than the other methods used by other makes
Have a good day - Charlie
Rick wrote:
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
>
> Give NSI a call. A new prop almost ready and reportly better efficiency than
> the warp. Not sure what engine your running though.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce
> Harrington
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Now Prop info needed
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> 3 bladed IVO and Warp seem to do better than the 3 bladed GSC. But I stuck
> with
> a replacement GSC due to the price. One of the list members gave me a very
> good
> deal quite a few years ago.
>
> Cheers, bh
>
> > Now that I feel the plane will be alright, I will go ahead and buy a new
> 3-blade prop for it. I would like to ask for opinions regarding various
> 3-blade
> props on the market. I don't want to make a mistake now, I'd rather take
> advise
> from those much more experienced.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ron Carroll
> > KF3 - Oregon
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wheels & skis |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
"gene m. calkins" wrote:
> Michel I got pictures of the skis you wanted to see.
Thank you very much for the pictures you sent me private and on Sportflight, Gene.
I will answer on the list because I think it may interest other lister.
This looks exactly like what I had in mind. However I don't think it will work
on my plane since I have the old-fashion bungee gears and not the aluminium
ones. I don't see how I can get the axis of the support going through and being
fixed on the inside. Maybe it can be done but then by modification that changes
the structure of my existing gears and I won't do that without a proper
quality-assurance from the designer of my existing gears.
Do you know of anyone having this type of skis on a bungee gear configuration?
Thanks in advance,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight N913KF |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Bill Hammond wrote:
> I think that I am in love.
Welcome to the club of cheerful lovers, Bill. Thank you for a great story and
your insight on ATC. It's nice to learn about you, controller guys, working
conditions. I did visit my own local tower but I am not sure all GA pilots do
that. When we are in the air, controllers are our "umbilical cord" to earth. We
are glad you are there and we enjoy reading about you everyday's life. Thanks again.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Tailwheel ski WAS: Short flight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Gary Algate wrote:
> I made my own tail ski from a piece of 1/4" thick plastic and a piece of
> aluminium - I will take a couple of photos and send you off list. It was
> easy and it works really well.
Thank you Gary, I look forward to that.
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Jerry Liles wrote:
> Avid offered the wheel penetrating ski and it worked well. I think
> pictures are still available on the Avid site and could be used to
> construct your own
I looked at the Avid site but I can't find any pictures of skis, Jerry. Do you
have a link? TIA,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Wheels & skis |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
Gene, when you find the contact information on this guy will you post it? I
would be interested in a set of skies for my KF IV.
Thanks,
James E. Burke
N94JE IV-1200
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Fuel pumps |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Lowell Fitt wrote:
> I am surprised that your tech sources were not aware of this.
... er, this list is my "tech source," Lowell! ;-)
Therefore: Thank you, list, for making my Kitfox experience a safer one.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight N913KF |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Great story Bill and congrats on your maiden voyage!
Darrel Morisse
S5
(ret atc)
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Bill Hammond <kitfox@itsys3.com>
>
> Following is another, albeit wordy, story of a first flight in a
> brand new Kitfox.
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| Subject: | Re: Wheels & skis |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "gene m. calkins" <calkinsgm@charter.net>
Michel, Jim when I find this guys name and phone number I will talk to him
a bout the bungee gear and let everyone know. I hope to track him down this
weekend Gene N99GC
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Wheels & skis
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> "gene m. calkins" wrote:
> > Michel I got pictures of the skis you wanted to see.
>
> Thank you very much for the pictures you sent me private and on
Sportflight, Gene.
> I will answer on the list because I think it may interest other lister.
>
> This looks exactly like what I had in mind. However I don't think it will
work
> on my plane since I have the old-fashion bungee gears and not the
aluminium
> ones. I don't see how I can get the axis of the support going through and
being
> fixed on the inside. Maybe it can be done but then by modification that
changes
> the structure of my existing gears and I won't do that without a proper
> quality-assurance from the designer of my existing gears.
>
> Do you know of anyone having this type of skis on a bungee gear
configuration?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Michel
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight N913KF |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "gene m. calkins" <calkinsgm@charter.net>
Bill Congratulations on your first flight, Great story too Gene N99GC
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Hammond" <kitfox@itsys3.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight N913KF
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Bill Hammond <kitfox@itsys3.com>
>
> Following is another, albeit wordy, story of a first flight in a
> brand new Kitfox.
>
> 12/5/03 - Denver Colorado
> The morning has started cold. Temperature is 9 degrees
> Fahrenheit as I leave my house at 4:45am to drive to work at
> Denver International Airport. I am a supervisor in the FAA
> approach control. I need to get to work by 5:30 to set the
> arrival flow for all the airliners inbound from the east coast.
>
> But, my mind is elsewhere. I am thinking of the Kitfox Series 6
> that I have been building for the last two years. It is sitting
> in a hangar at FTG Front Range airport - about seven miles away
> from DEN and tucked into a corner below the Class B airspace.
> N913KF had been issued her airworthiness certificate on 11/10/03.
> About five hours were showing on the Hobbs meter as a result of
> engine runup and taxi testing. Would today be the day? I felt
> that the aircraft was ready, but was I? I had never been
> airborne in a Kitfox. I have logged over 4500 hours in the last
> 27 years, but all of it was in production aircraft. I have been
> keeping current in an Aeronca Champ while I have been building
> the Kitfox. I felt capable. I had consulted with my EAA chapter
> flight advisor. I had confidence in the aircraft construction
> and rigging after the taxi tests, but that first flight in a new
> aircraft is an awfully big step.
>
> At the approach control, I check the weather, NOTAMS, and airport
> conditions before setting the day's arrival rate. It is good
> VFR, only a slight breeze from the southeast, and all the runways
> and taxiways are open. I call Denver Center and tell them to
> give me a flow for four runways, visual approaches, land south
> and east with no restrictions. I can almost see the Traffic
> Management Coordinator smile - even though he is 60 miles away in
> Longmont Colorado. I have just given him the permission to throw
> 160 airplanes per hour at me and my approach controllers. No
> other airport in the world can eat aluminum like DEN can! The
> folks at Denver Center know that it will be impossible for them
> to find enough aircraft to meet this demand, but they will
> certainly come close for short periods. I can only imagine how
> the airlines' bean counters will be smiling - along with the
> 30,000 people that will travel through DEN today without any
> delays or cancellations. I think to myself - gee, this decision
> made by me, a lowly government employee, will have a positive
> economic impact on a whole bunch of people today. I hope that
> they keep paying their taxes so I can keep drawing my salary. I
> also hope to make it hard on the flight crews to try and use the
> excuse "Ladies and gentlemen, we have an ATC delay...." There's
> nothing like good VFR to make all out lives easier. And these
> light winds are favorable for a taildragger.... Enough, back to
> business.
>
> The first morning inbound rush is down and at the gates when I am
> joined in the Tracon by another supervisor. Would he mind if I
> skipped out today and went flying? He is agreeable, but the 9
> degree temperature makes the thought a little uncomfortable. I
> decide to get a session of proficiency time working final
> approach during the next rush. MAybe it will warm up.
>
> I key up 123.85, set my radar scope the way that I like it and
> buckle in. Final approach can be like a roller coaster ride.
> There are times of great buildup followed by a wild ride until it
> ends. Unlike a video game, you can't hit pause and you can't ask
> anyone to stop. Just like they tell you at the carnival "keep
> your hands and feet inside the ride until it comes to a complete
> stop." Away we go. "United 44 heavy, approach, reduce speed to
> 170 then descend and maintain 8,000." "Skywest 7036 turn right
> heading 080, traffic two o'clock 3 miles on final a Boeing 737.
> Report traffic in sight." "Frontier 583 turn right heading 140,
> maintain 170 knots to JETSN, clear for visual approach runway 16
> right." "United 1403 contact tower won tree fife point tree
> (135.3) So long."
>
> It is a pretty smooth session today. My turns are timely,
> spacing is good, the lineup is aesthetically pleasing on the
> radar scope. I am feeling pretty self confident. What is the
> wind? One six zero at eight - that is a fine wind for a first
> flight. I'm outta here! As the last airliners are sent to
> tower, I combine my radar position to another controller, sign
> for the leave, and drive to FTG. This will be the day after all.
>
> The temperature is now about 35 and N913KF does not protest as I
> pull the cowl off and give a preflight as if my life depended on
> it, because it does. The airport Crash-Fire-Rescue crew comes to
> the hangar at my invitation as I explain what I am going to do,
> show them how to work the door latches, and where the master and
> ignition switches are located. They offer to stand by for the
> flight and I heartily agree. Self preservation has a way of
> hedging all bets. Two friends from work drive up to witness the
> event. I am not sure if they are here for support or to manage a
> betting pool whose outcome is determined by my ultimate success.
> The Rotax 912S starts in the cold air, but is reluctant to
> smooth out for the first 30 seconds. Finally, it purrs its
> cadence and I start the long taxi to runway 17.
>
> By the time I get to the runway, the engine temperatures are
> normal and everything feels right. Out come the checklists as I
> prepare to make my own personal history. Finally, it is time.
> No excuses. In the words of astronaut Gus Grissom I mumble to
> myself the test pilot's prayer - "O Lord, please don't let me
> f*** up!" The throttle moves forward. Before I can get it to
> the stop, the tail has come up. Oh Yah!! Tracking is straight as
> the airplane very quickly gets light on the wheels. Now,
> according to my script, I am supposed to make note of the
> indicated airspeed so that I will have it as a basis later for
> the landing approach. I confess, I missed it. By the time I
> look down at the airspeed, I am already in the air! Ed Downs was
> right - this thing is really a high performance airplane in
> disguise. I put the nose in what I consider to be a comfortable
> spot for climb and glance at the speed. I am already up to 80
> mph. Unfortunately, I have to level off to stay out of the Class
> B airspace, but it certainly feels as if it want to keep on climbing.
>
> I fly a rectangular pattern around the airport and check the
> control responses. I had only used a very little bit of trim
> adjustment from the measured spot detailed in the construction
> manual. That was good. Control response incredibly light and
> effective - much more so than the Aeronca. Rudder authority is
> good. I let go of the stick to see if the wing rigging is
> proper. It stays level hands off. "Remember to breathe" the
> Flight advisor had told me. I do - through a huge smile. I
> think to myself "I built this thing and it is flying!" I am
> experiencing no fear, no apprehension, and no desire to return to
> earth. But, my flight plan says that I must. After 1/2 hour it
> is time to try the first landing.
>
> As I slow in the pattern, the control response feels solid. I'll
> land on runway 17. There is no crosswind and the runway is 8000
> feet long, so there is no reason to try and put it on the
> numbers. I aim for a spot 1500 feet down, carry a little extra
> speed until I am in the flare, and close the throttle. I ended
> up with the prettiest little three point landing that you've ever
> seen. There was no tendency to swerve or fishtail, and with
> minimal braking I was at a stop in about 500 feet. I think that
> I am in love.
>
> So, now I have 36 minutes of Kitfox time in my log book. I have
> thoroughly enjoyed the building and am looking forward to the
> flying. My personal euphoria is exhilarating. All is right with
> the world. As so may others on this list have stated... Blue Skies.
>
> Bill Hammond
> Parker, Colorado
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tailwheel ski WAS: Short flight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "gene m. calkins" <calkinsgm@charter.net>
Gary I would like to see it too. What kind of tail wheel do you have
steerable or full swivel? Gene N99GC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tailwheel ski WAS: Short flight
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Gary Algate wrote:
> > I made my own tail ski from a piece of 1/4" thick plastic and a piece of
> > aluminium - I will take a couple of photos and send you off list. It was
> > easy and it works really well.
>
> Thank you Gary, I look forward to that.
>
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tailwheel ski WAS: Short flight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
If you don't mind I would like a picture of your tail wheel ski also.
Thanks,
James E. Burke
N94JE
-------Original Message-------
From: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tailwheel ski WAS: Short flight
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "gene m. calkins" <calkinsgm@charter.net>
Gary I would like to see it too. What kind of tail wheel do you have
steerable or full swivel? Gene N99GC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tailwheel ski WAS: Short flight
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Gary Algate wrote:
> > I made my own tail ski from a piece of 1/4" thick plastic and a piece of
> > aluminium - I will take a couple of photos and send you off list. It was
> > easy and it works really well.
>
> Thank you Gary, I look forward to that.
>
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Although the airplane is long gone to another flier, I built my own skis to
fit the bungee gear. I used a set of snowmobile plastic skis. Actually,
rather than plastic, it's called something else, but very much like a high
density and very tough nylon type material that is much stronger than it
appears and about .040 in thickness. I used a pine 2X10 sandwhiched
between two pieces of .060
aluminum then using a piece of .125 aluminum bolted the whole shebang to
the skis. The hole for the axle was made to accept a .750 ID bronze
bushing (hardware store variety) and with a couple pvc spacers was held on
by the wheel axle. Very simple to make, lighter than the original wheel
assembly, about a 15 minute project to change from wheel to ski. The brake
disc problem was solved by simply safety wiring a spacer between the two
pads so that when the brake was pressed, it would just compress on the
spacer. Admittedly, it's either wheels or skis, but they definitely did
the job on the old model II. No tail ski was necessary. I just left the
original tailwheel in place as it aided in turning and made a good brake.
Takeoff was a simple matter of full power, lift the tail and go. The
airplane flew fine and sometimes I wish I'd never let those skis go. Cost
was minimal, no welding required, and materials were all locally available.
Hope this might help somebody. Pics available on :
http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=1070714137
Darrel Morisse
S5 with Federal 1500s found on ebay for $325
>Michael said:
> Thank you very much for the pictures you sent me private and on
Sportflight, Gene.
> I will answer on the list because I think it may interest other lister.
>
> This looks exactly like what I had in mind. However I don't think it will
work
> on my plane since I have the old-fashion bungee gears and not the
aluminium
> ones. I don't see how I can get the axis of the support going through and
being
> fixed on the inside. Maybe it can be done but then by modification that
changes
> the structure of my existing gears and I won't do that without a proper
> quality-assurance from the designer of my existing gears.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
dmorisse wrote:
> http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=1070714137
This is very nice, Darrel, you did an excellent job. But I already have this
kind of skis. The problem is, if I use them:
1) I'll need a dolly to put the plane on in order to get it in the hangar.
2) In March or April, my runway will most probably be barren asphalt but around
us and especially inland, there will still be a lot of snow. I will then
certainly fly but will be afraid to move away from the airfield since an
outfield landing would be very dangerous.
As a last resort, I can change my bungee gears for aluminium ones and use the
type of skis Gene shows us. But it is a costly solution and honestly, I like
the look of the old-fashion bungee gear.
I appreciate the fact that you find the need for a tailwheel ski not necessary.
You are probably right, there is little chance the tail will dig itself very
deep in the snow.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: insurance price adjustment |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: charles b cook <cookflys@juno.com>
Roger
The insurance company that told me of the price adjustment was Avemco.
The way the salesperson explained it the insurance companies are trying
to prevent you from cancelling insurance and going to another carrier.
You would have got a 9% price break if your aircraft and you had flown 20
hrs when you first applied. It doesn't cost anything to call and see
maybe Falcon and others do the same.
As far as covering the test pilot even if he/she is on your policy during
the first 20/40 hrs of flying with them flying solo some carriers will
not give medical, hull, or protect you from a law suit if your aircraft
hurts the test pilot. (The best friends relatives can sue you.)
Charles
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell"
> <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
> Charles,
> This sounds interesting. Can you be more specific on what
> companies are
> offering this 9% rebate.
> I can contact you off list if you prefer.
> Regards
> Roger Mac
> S7/ 912S
> getting ready to cover fuselage
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of charles
> b
> cook
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: insurance price adjustment
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: charles b cook
> <cookflys@juno.com>
>
> Just thought I would throw this out.
> Some of the insurance companies will give you a 9% rebate as soon as
> you
> fly the first 20 hrs off your aircraft. YOU must call them for this
> rebate. There is another 9% when you have 160 hrs in type of
> aircraft.
>
> If you are building and looking for insurance one thing that caught
> my
> attention is some of the policies do not cover a test pilot other
> than
> the owner. Sounds strange but I have a friend who is willing to help
> on
> the initial flying who has 600+ hrs in kitfoxes and if I elected for
> him
> to do a test flight he is not covered until the 40 hrs are flown
> off.
> Liability coverage would be in place but no hull or medical and
> life.
> Charles Cook
> 363kf
>
>
>
=
>
=
> =============
>
=
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
Go to the Avid site. On the right hand side click on options. On the
options page under Options and Accessories click on Wheel penetration
skis. I think I have some additional pictures with some construction
details if you are interested. You might also contact Steve Winder on
the Airdale site. I think he may be able to help.
Jerry Liles
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>Jerry Liles wrote:
>
>
>>Avid offered the wheel penetrating ski and it worked well. I think
>>pictures are still available on the Avid site and could be used to
>>construct your own
>>
>>
>
>I looked at the Avid site but I can't find any pictures of skis, Jerry. Do you
>have a link? TIA,
>
>Michel
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Kuntselman strobes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Does anybody out there have the URL for Kuntselman Strobes? (hope I have
the spelling correct) Better yet, anybody have a set they want to sell? I
need a right side light assembly, but then again, I think right and left
are interchangeable.
Appreciate any help.
Darrel
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| Subject: | Re: Kuntselman strobes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
dmorisse wrote:
> Does anybody out there have the URL for Kuntselman Strobes?
Is this what you are looking for, Darrel?
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/menus/el52.php
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Jerry Liles wrote:
> Go to the Avid site. On the right hand side click on options. On the
> options page under Options and Accessories click on Wheel penetration
> skis.
Thank you, Jerry. It looks like the kind that can be mounted on bungee gears.
I'll write at once and inquest.
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight N913KF |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Carroll" <RonCarr@Qwest.Net>
I also welcome you Bill. I enjoyed being with you on that memorable day.
I only wish I shared Michel's feelings about ATCs, as I had a disappointing experience
a few years ago. My wife were on a VFR flight, landing at KCIC (Chico,
CA). We decided to see if we could take our first tour of a tower. It was
late afternoon, we rang the doorbell, asked permission to tour, and were allowed
to enter. We walked up the stairs and entered the control room.
Sitting in two chairs, with their feet propped up, were the controllers, paying
little attention to us, and not interrupting their obviously humorous ongoing
chat. I asked if we could look around and they authorized by nodding and resuming
their bull session, not offering to answer questions. I later found out
that both of the controllers were local college students working part-time, and
neither were pilots.
As my wife & I walked around the control room an aircraft reported in from several
miles out with ATIS information. No attention was paid to the call. The
plane called two more times, but still no response by the ATC team. On the fourth
call a controller told the other that it was his turn to respond. The second
laughingly said no, as he had worked the last call. The first controller
conceded and asked what the plane's N-Number was, but neither knew. The controller
then replied to the plane, asking him to repeat his N-Number and request.
My wife and I were shocked at what had gone on, especially realizing that guys
like these were in a position to responsibly control airport traffic, and can
reprimand & report a pilot for some unintentional error or violation that could
conceivably cost the pilot his license.
The bottom line was that both controllers were young & immature, and had no appreciation
regarding pilot's point of view and trust in the system. I understand
that being a pilot is not an ATC requirement, but I can't say that I agree
with it. I also understand that this was not a typical ATC scenario. We trustingly
place our lives in their hands.
I just had my wife read this to make sure the facts are right. They are.
Ron Carroll
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Michel Verheughe
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight N913KF
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Bill Hammond wrote:
> I think that I am in love.
Welcome to the club of cheerful lovers, Bill. Thank you for a great story and
your insight on ATC. It's nice to learn about you, controller guys, working
conditions. I did visit my own local tower but I am not sure all GA pilots do
that. When we are in the air, controllers are our "umbilical cord" to earth.
We
are glad you are there and we enjoy reading about you everyday's life. Thanks
again.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | First Flight N913KF |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Ron,
As an flight instructor I have taken many students into the TRACON and
to
the CAB at many different airports. I feel it is important for them to see
it from the towers eyes... Anyway, it has always been a pleasure and
appreciated. I am saddened to hear of this experience you had the tower can
be a real treat.
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron Carroll
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight N913KF
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Carroll" <RonCarr@Qwest.Net>
I also welcome you Bill. I enjoyed being with you on that memorable day.
I only wish I shared Michel's feelings about ATCs, as I had a disappointing
experience a few years ago. My wife were on a VFR flight, landing at KCIC
(Chico, CA). We decided to see if we could take our first tour of a tower.
It was late afternoon, we rang the doorbell, asked permission to tour, and
were allowed to enter. We walked up the stairs and entered the control
room.
Sitting in two chairs, with their feet propped up, were the controllers,
paying little attention to us, and not interrupting their obviously humorous
ongoing chat. I asked if we could look around and they authorized by
nodding and resuming their bull session, not offering to answer questions.
I later found out that both of the controllers were local college students
working part-time, and neither were pilots.
As my wife & I walked around the control room an aircraft reported in from
several miles out with ATIS information. No attention was paid to the call.
The plane called two more times, but still no response by the ATC team. On
the fourth call a controller told the other that it was his turn to respond.
The second laughingly said no, as he had worked the last call. The first
controller conceded and asked what the plane's N-Number was, but neither
knew. The controller then replied to the plane, asking him to repeat his
N-Number and request.
My wife and I were shocked at what had gone on, especially realizing that
guys like these were in a position to responsibly control airport traffic,
and can reprimand & report a pilot for some unintentional error or violation
that could conceivably cost the pilot his license.
The bottom line was that both controllers were young & immature, and had no
appreciation regarding pilot's point of view and trust in the system. I
understand that being a pilot is not an ATC requirement, but I can't say
that I agree with it. I also understand that this was not a typical ATC
scenario. We trustingly place our lives in their hands.
I just had my wife read this to make sure the facts are right. They are.
Ron Carroll
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Michel Verheughe
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: First Flight N913KF
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Bill Hammond wrote:
> I think that I am in love.
Welcome to the club of cheerful lovers, Bill. Thank you for a great story
and
your insight on ATC. It's nice to learn about you, controller guys,
working
conditions. I did visit my own local tower but I am not sure all GA pilots
do
that. When we are in the air, controllers are our "umbilical cord" to
earth. We
are glad you are there and we enjoy reading about you everyday's life.
Thanks again.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Now Prop info needed |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Carroll" <RonCarr@Qwest.Net>
Charlie, I currently have a 2-blade Powerfin on my plane, and find it a little
harder to adjust. My problem is that while using a feeler gauge is nice, things
change slightly when the blades are torqued, as evidenced by the use of a bubble
protractor. I just use the bubble machine from the get-go so that I don't
have to do it twice.
The reason I'm interested in a 3-blade prop is because the 2-blade I have is about
2 or 3 inches too short. To compensate it must have too much pitch dialed
in to load the engine properly, affecting my take-off & climb.
I can get one new blade and a 3-blade hub from Powerfin. They will cut off my
existing two blades to match & balance the new third blade. The cost for parts
& labor is nearly the cost of a new prop. This is why I asked for recommendations
for prop preferences. If I buy a whole new prop I can sell the old one
and get some of the cost back.
Ron Carroll
----- Original Message -----
From: broschart
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:23 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Now Prop info needed
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: broschart <cfbflyer@localnet.com>
i think you would like the Powerfin prop's feeler gage adjustment method
better than the other methods used by other makes
Have a good day - Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Kuntselman strobes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay & Beverly Carter" <valley361@centurytel.net>
Kuntzleman www.kestrobes.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kuntselman strobes
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> Does anybody out there have the URL for Kuntselman Strobes? (hope I have
> the spelling correct) Better yet, anybody have a set they want to sell?
I
> need a right side light assembly, but then again, I think right and left
> are interchangeable.
> Appreciate any help.
> Darrel
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kuntselman strobes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Found this one in my bookmark file:
http://kestrobes.com/Homex.html
Torgeir.
dmorisse wrote:
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> Does anybody out there have the URL for Kuntselman Strobes? (hope I have
> the spelling correct) Better yet, anybody have a set they want to sell? I
> need a right side light assembly, but then again, I think right and left
> are interchangeable.
> Appreciate any help.
> Darrel
>
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| Subject: | insurance price adjustment |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Charles,
Thanks for the info. I'll keep this in mind when I start shopping for
insurance.
Regards
Roger
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of charles b
cook
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: insurance price adjustment
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: charles b cook <cookflys@juno.com>
Roger
The insurance company that told me of the price adjustment was Avemco.
The way the salesperson explained it the insurance companies are trying
to prevent you from cancelling insurance and going to another carrier.
You would have got a 9% price break if your aircraft and you had flown 20
hrs when you first applied. It doesn't cost anything to call and see
maybe Falcon and others do the same.
As far as covering the test pilot even if he/she is on your policy during
the first 20/40 hrs of flying with them flying solo some carriers will
not give medical, hull, or protect you from a law suit if your aircraft
hurts the test pilot. (The best friends relatives can sue you.)
Charles
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell"
> <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
> Charles,
> This sounds interesting. Can you be more specific on what
> companies are
> offering this 9% rebate.
> I can contact you off list if you prefer.
> Regards
> Roger Mac
> S7/ 912S
> getting ready to cover fuselage
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of charles
> b
> cook
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: insurance price adjustment
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: charles b cook
> <cookflys@juno.com>
>
> Just thought I would throw this out.
> Some of the insurance companies will give you a 9% rebate as soon as
> you
> fly the first 20 hrs off your aircraft. YOU must call them for this
> rebate. There is another 9% when you have 160 hrs in type of
> aircraft.
>
> If you are building and looking for insurance one thing that caught
> my
> attention is some of the policies do not cover a test pilot other
> than
> the owner. Sounds strange but I have a friend who is willing to help
> on
> the initial flying who has 600+ hrs in kitfoxes and if I elected for
> him
> to do a test flight he is not covered until the 40 hrs are flown
> off.
> Liability coverage would be in place but no hull or medical and
> life.
> Charles Cook
> 363kf
>
>
=
>
=
> =============
>
=
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kuntselman strobes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "cnichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Darrel:
Kuntzleman's website is at www.kestrobes.com.
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kuntselman strobes
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> Does anybody out there have the URL for Kuntselman Strobes? (hope I have
> the spelling correct) Better yet, anybody have a set they want to sell?
I
> need a right side light assembly, but then again, I think right and left
> are interchangeable.
> Appreciate any help.
> Darrel
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kuntselman strobes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Thanks to all who replied with my url request. Found just what I needed
and even found someone at work to place the order for me so the part is on
the way!
BTW, if you you're looking for inexpensive strobes, you might consider the
Kuntzleman units. Been serving me well for several years.
Darrel
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
>
> Found this one in my bookmark file:
>
> http://kestrobes.com/Homex.html
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| Subject: | Kuntzleman strobes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "cnichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Allow me to say this about the Kuntzleman company. They are super nice folks to
deal with. The strobe driver on my plane went bad after several years. They
fixed it free, and the only charge was $5.00 to cover their shipping it back
to me. They didn't even insist on the 5 dollars in advance. They simply trusted
me to send it to them. There aren't many companies around today who provide
that kind of service.
Clem Nichols
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| Subject: | Re: S6 Wheel Pants |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay & Beverly Carter" <valley361@centurytel.net>
John,
Thanks for the fedback. Just checking I wasn't heading off on a
wrong track. My Citabria has about 5" clearance to the wheel pant. I will
probably move the Kitfox pant up to about 4" and go with that. Do not
archive.
Jay
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: S6 Wheel Pants
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
<janderson412@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Yes, that's about right Jay. I've made mine so they are easy to remove and
only intend to use them for long dist flights and good surfaces.
>
>
> From: "Jay Beverly Carter" <VALLEY361@CENTURYTEL.NET>
> To: "Kit Fox" <KITFOX-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: S6Wheel Pants
> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:13:51 -0600
>
> -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Beverly Carter"
<VALLEY361@CENTURYTEL.NET>
>
> Question for anyone that has completed this installation. Looking
> at the Skystar instructions it appears that with a fully inflated tire
> there would be about 3" between the low point of the pant and
> ground. Does not seem adequate.
>
> Thanks,Jay C.
>
>
> With <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMAENNZ/2755??PS=">Xtra Jetstream - you
don't need a separate phone line for the internet!
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
Michel,
Avid seems to be moving at present and may not be in business much
longer. I doubt you will get a reply. I suggest you contact Steve
Winder at Airdale. If anyone can help you he can.
http://www.airdale.com/
Jerry Liles
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>Jerry Liles wrote:
>
>
>>Go to the Avid site. On the right hand side click on options. On the
>>options page under Options and Accessories click on Wheel penetration
>>skis.
>>
>>
>
>Thank you, Jerry. It looks like the kind that can be mounted on bungee gears.
>I'll write at once and inquest.
>
>Cheers,
>Michel
>
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Bounced msg sent to old list.
Darrel
List Janitor
Subject: Bird Strike on Model IV Being Built
List
Thought I would share my unfortunate experience today with a large bird. It think
it was what we in Texas call a Grakle. I had just finished sanding after
the second coat of Poly Spray on my rudder and was complimenting myself on a job
well done. As a reward I decided it was time for a break. So leaving my
garage door open I went into the house and sat in my favorite chair and relaxed
for about 15 minutes. When I returned to the garage, much to my disbelieve,
this bird was sitting on my beautiful rudder pecking away. I didn't know that
birds like Poly Spay. Perhaps he was looking for UV protection. It does not
appear that the pecking did any real damage. However, in the process of doing
my level best to commit murder with a broom, this beast landed on my rudder
with surch force that his claws tore a 1/2" hole in the rudder. So now I am trying
to decide whether to patch this hole and forever be reminded of this now
deceased critter or to recover the whole rudder.
No need for anyone to be concerned that this bird might attach your airplane.
He is no longer capable.
Maybe by tomorrow I will be able to laugh about this.
Jimmie
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| Subject: | Rotax Engine Sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Gandy" <s.gandy@comcast.net>
Copied this off of yesterdays EAA newsletter for anyone interested
Rotax Announces End-of-Year Engine Sale
Rotax has announced a never-before-offered, end-of-year sale for its
two- and four-stroke engines. Interested buyers can save up to $393 on
various two-stroke models, or up to $1,661 on various four-stroke
models. However, the Rotax 447 and Rotax 914 engines are exempted from
this offer.
This offer is good on existing engines in the inventory of any of Kodiak
Research's North American distributors and is valid on any engines paid
for by December 24, 2003. For more information, contact your local Rotax
distributor or Lockwood Aviation Supply, 800/527-6829.
Steve Gandy
s.gandy@comcast.net
Aeronca L-3C N48540
Kitfox 6 N540KF (Building)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com
Ron,
As a professional CFI for nearly 20 years I have taken literally hundreds of
students into towers and ATC facilities. Yours is the first time I have ever
heard of such actions! What year was this?
I had to do a double take as I used to train at the CNO Chino, CA airport
when operating out of SNA in Orange County in the '70's. They were excellent!
Question, is Chico a non federal tower, I don't have my info close at hand?
This sort of actions is just totally unacceptable ~ regardless if IFR or VFR
conditions, our lives are at stake. This should be reported to the person and
agency in charge. This is the only this sort of unacceptable "on the job"
performance will be stopped by these two.
Granted I haven't been into that many towers in the past 20 years as have
been with an aircarrier and then retired, but I still visit them occasionally,
naturally ORD, DFW and LGA and the major airports aren't that way, and neither
were PDX (02), SEA(02), or SJC(98) which are the last ones I've visited. I
have many friends who are working in the towers and they would be insulted to
hear some are acting like this!
Elbie
Contact off list if desired!
DO NOT ARCHIVE non KitFox
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| Subject: | Rotax Engine Sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
You would think that SkyStar would take advantage of this and get us our
engines. I've been waiting for mine for over a year.
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Gandy
Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax Engine Sale
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Gandy" <s.gandy@comcast.net>
Copied this off of yesterdays EAA newsletter for anyone interested
Rotax Announces End-of-Year Engine Sale
Rotax has announced a never-before-offered, end-of-year sale for its
two- and four-stroke engines. Interested buyers can save up to $393 on
various two-stroke models, or up to $1,661 on various four-stroke
models. However, the Rotax 447 and Rotax 914 engines are exempted from
this offer.
This offer is good on existing engines in the inventory of any of Kodiak
Research's North American distributors and is valid on any engines paid
for by December 24, 2003. For more information, contact your local Rotax
distributor or Lockwood Aviation Supply, 800/527-6829.
Steve Gandy
s.gandy@comcast.net
Aeronca L-3C N48540
Kitfox 6 N540KF (Building)
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| Subject: | Rotax Engine Sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
You would think that SkyStar would take advantage of this and get us our
engines. I've been waiting for mine for over a year.
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Gandy
Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax Engine Sale
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Gandy" <s.gandy@comcast.net>
Copied this off of yesterdays EAA newsletter for anyone interested
Rotax Announces End-of-Year Engine Sale
Rotax has announced a never-before-offered, end-of-year sale for its
two- and four-stroke engines. Interested buyers can save up to $393 on
various two-stroke models, or up to $1,661 on various four-stroke
models. However, the Rotax 447 and Rotax 914 engines are exempted from
this offer.
This offer is good on existing engines in the inventory of any of Kodiak
Research's North American distributors and is valid on any engines paid
for by December 24, 2003. For more information, contact your local Rotax
distributor or Lockwood Aviation Supply, 800/527-6829.
Steve Gandy
s.gandy@comcast.net
Aeronca L-3C N48540
Kitfox 6 N540KF (Building)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
I can't find the "avid site" that has the buttons you describe... I get the
airdale homepage and the links on the left with none called "OPTIONS" Can
you give me a link please.
Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Avid skis
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Jerry Liles wrote:
> > Go to the Avid site. On the right hand side click on options. On the
> > options page under Options and Accessories click on Wheel penetration
> > skis.
>
> Thank you, Jerry. It looks like the kind that can be mounted on bungee
gears.
> I'll write at once and inquest.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "gene m. calkins" <calkinsgm@charter.net>
Bob try http://avidair.com/markski.html this is the page I found it. Gene
N99GC
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Avid skis
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
<shilocom@c-magic.com>
>
> I can't find the "avid site" that has the buttons you describe... I get
the
> airdale homepage and the links on the left with none called "OPTIONS" Can
> you give me a link please.
>
> Bob U.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Avid skis
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> >
> > Jerry Liles wrote:
> > > Go to the Avid site. On the right hand side click on options. On the
> > > options page under Options and Accessories click on Wheel penetration
> > > skis.
> >
> > Thank you, Jerry. It looks like the kind that can be mounted on bungee
> gears.
> > I'll write at once and inquest.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michel
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Trey Moran" <ffmoran@centurytel.net>
here is the avid site for the wheel through skis: http://avidair.com/markski.html
Trey Moran, KF5, almost
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Unternaehrer
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Avid skis
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
I can't find the "avid site" that has the buttons you describe... I get the
airdale homepage and the links on the left with none called "OPTIONS" Can
you give me a link please.
Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Avid skis
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Jerry Liles wrote:
> > Go to the Avid site. On the right hand side click on options. On the
> > options page under Options and Accessories click on Wheel penetration
> > skis.
>
> Thank you, Jerry. It looks like the kind that can be mounted on bungee
gears.
> I'll write at once and inquest.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
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>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
Did you try the Avid Aircraft site?
http://avidair.com/
I just went back and it's all there.
I don't think Airdale has the skis but Steve Winder is familiar with
them and may even know where there is a set available. It is possible
that Airdale will make them. Send Steve a query. His emali address is
on the site.
Jerry Liles
Bob Unternaehrer wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
>
>I can't find the "avid site" that has the buttons you describe... I get the
>airdale homepage and the links on the left with none called "OPTIONS" Can
>you give me a link please.
>
>Bob U.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Avid skis
>
>
>
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>>
>>Jerry Liles wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Go to the Avid site. On the right hand side click on options. On the
>>>options page under Options and Accessories click on Wheel penetration
>>>skis.
>>>
>>>
>>Thank you, Jerry. It looks like the kind that can be mounted on bungee
>>
>>
>gears.
>
>
>>I'll write at once and inquest.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Michel
>>
>>do not archive
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Kuntzleman strobes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com
I've dropped by and talked to Kuntzleman since the first year I displayed at
Sun n Fun and always drop by and say Hi, even though I haven't had a booth in
the U/L area for several years. I am sure you will find them excellent to
work with, and good honest people. I have never heard anything negative about
them, which is excellent in today's world!
Elbie
EM Aviation
www.riteangle.com
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight N913KF |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
Bill,
Now that you have experienced that thrill, hurry up and get the required
40 hours on N913KF and experience your next thrill. In late July fly it
to Oshkosh 2004 and be one of the thousands of pilots who experience an
approach to the most busiest airport in the world. Maybe one day when
you get real good they will let you handle the tower.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Bill Hammond wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Bill Hammond <kitfox@itsys3.com>
>
>Following is another, albeit wordy, story of a first flight in a
>brand new Kitfox.
>
>
>Bill Hammond
>Parker, Colorado
>
>
>
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