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1. 12:08 AM - Re: Fw: fuselage corrosion proofing (michel)
2. 12:47 AM - Re: SPAM / Nigeria (michel)
3. 03:39 AM - Re: In-flight adjustable props (dmorisse)
4. 05:20 AM - Re: In-flight adjustable props IVO medium user (dave)
5. 05:38 AM - Re: In-flight adjustable props (Gary Algate)
6. 07:38 AM - Re: In-flight adjustable props (Lowell Fitt)
7. 10:18 AM - Re: In-flight adjustable props (kurt schrader)
8. 10:58 AM - Re: Cargo Pod Suggestion (Steve M)
9. 11:14 AM - "Learning to fly again" (Steve M)
10. 11:21 AM - SKIS (gene m. calkins)
11. 11:24 AM - Re: Re: Cargo Pod Suggestion (dmorisse)
12. 11:41 AM - Re: In-flight adjustable props (Scott McClintock)
13. 01:24 PM - Re: Re: Cargo Pod Suggestion (Michel Verheughe)
14. 01:41 PM - Re: In-flight adjustable props (JMCBEAN)
15. 02:04 PM - Re: Re: Cargo Pod Suggestion (KFN102LG@aol.com)
16. 02:22 PM - Re: In-flight adjustable props (Peter Graichen)
17. 05:33 PM - Re: Re: Cargo Pod Suggestion (Lowell Fitt)
18. 08:10 PM - FW: Rotax 618 muffler (Don Pearsall)
19. 09:14 PM - Re: FW: Rotax 618 muffler (Bob Robertson)
20. 10:34 PM - Re: Re: Cargo Pod Suggestion (RiteAngle3@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Fw: fuselage corrosion proofing |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
>===== Original Message From "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
> ... I've heard linseed oil??? Bob U.
Yes Bob, linseed oil is a cheap but beautiful natural product that has been
used for centuries by seafarers. One thing, though: if after working with it,
you leave oil-soaked rags in a corner of your hangar, you probably won't find
them again the day after. Nor your hangar or your plane, for the matter.
Linseed oil drying on rags will produce enough heat to start burning.
Something to do with the large exposure to air of a rag, I was told. Simply
soak the rags with water before disposing of them.
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
>===== Original Message From RiteAngle3@aol.com
>Those of you in the US who are getting the Nigerian scam
Nigerian, Elbie? That scam has so many variations! The latest I got was
seeking the next-of-kin of someone who supposely died in the AirEgypt crash,
off the Nantucket Island, four years ago.
About the "original" Nigerian one; if you have time, simply BS those guys, it
can be great fun. Here is the link of someone who managed to make them believe
he killed his wife in the bathtub. His last email to them was: "... and I have
a bathtub with your name on it!" :-)
http://www.priveye.com/nig9.htm
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: In-flight adjustable props |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "cnichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
> Does anyone in the group have any experience with the cockpit adjustable
prop sold by NSI for use with their EA81 Subaru conversion? What about the
Ivo in-flight adjustable prop?
The NSI prop was built for and is a perfect match for the NSI EA81. Never
had a problem with mine and worth every penny. I believe Lance is working
on a new version using his own blades rather than the Warp units and says
the blades are more efficient with better thrust. I have no idea when they
would be available.
Darrel
S5/NSI/CAP
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| Subject: | In-flight adjustable props IVO medium user |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dave" <dave@ablerig.com>
I have an IVO on a Jabiru. Would never go back to a fixed pitch.
Dave
34AB
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| Subject: | In-flight adjustable props |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
I have the IVO Medium 2 blade in-flight adjustable on my 582. I love it.
There is also a Bush Caddy here with the NSI and IVO in flight adjustable 3
blade Ultralight prop which also works great.
Gary Algate
Lite2/582
> Does anyone in the group have any experience with the cockpit
> adjustable
prop sold by NSI for use with their EA81 Subaru conversion? What about the
Ivo in-flight adjustable prop?
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| Subject: | Re: In-flight adjustable props |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Elbie, I wonder if the experience with Europa will translate to Kitfox.
there has been some discussion on the frontal area of the round cowl Kitfox
and the fact that the distance of the prop from the front of the cowl can
effect prop performance. There is a lot of experience with these prop hubs
with pilots right here on the list. I see no reason to muddy the waters
here.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: <RiteAngle3@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: In-flight adjustable props
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com
>
> You might go to the Matronics Europa list and post the question re the Ivo
> props.
> Elbie
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: In-flight adjustable props |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I talked to Lance last year about his new prop and
learned while doing so that he designs the prop to
stand up to 700% RPM. The NSI props are not light
weight, but there is a reason for that.
Don't know about the IVO, I but do know that the NSI
prop is strong.
Kurt S.
--- cnichols <cnichols@scrtc.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "cnichols"
> <cnichols@scrtc.com>
>
> Does anyone in the group have any experience with
> the cockpit adjustable prop sold by NSI for use with
> their EA81 Subaru conversion? What about the Ivo
> in-flight adjustable prop?
__________________________________
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| Subject: | RE: Cargo Pod Suggestion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve M" <ondeck355@hotmail.com>
I've often wondered if it would be possible to use an automotive-type
external luggage carrier on a Kitfox, mounted under the belly just behind
the gear legs. Specifically, one of the long black plastic ones from the
Yakima or Thule outfits. You probably know the one I mean: Long and narrow,
tapered at one end, sort of squared off on the other end.
They are usually mounted on top of cars, tapered end to the front and curved
surface on top. I was thinking of turning it both upside-down and backwards,
so the blunt end was forward and the flat side nestled against the bottom of
the plane. Have to fabricate some sort of mounts to attach it to the bear
and float mounts. Probably have to remove it from the plane to open it,
since it's upside-down, unless you want your stuff to spill all over the
ramp into those oil stains left by somebody's DC-3.
Probably have to go behind the gear legs so that a hard landing won't cause
the bungee bars to hit it. And blunt end forward because I have a hunch
that's a lower-drag configuration than tapered end forward, just like a wing
has its rounded edge forward and tapered-to-a-knife-edge back.
Anyone ever tried this?
Steve Maher
Kitfox Model 2, what's a "luggage compartment"?
San Diego, CA
>From: "Allan Arthur" <alnan@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Cargo Pod Wanted
>Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:23:43 -0800
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Arthur" <alnan@earthlink.net>
>
>Former Lister, Tim Glenn is looking for a Cargo Pod, can anyone help?
>
>Received this message from Tim:
> >>Hope all is well with you and your family. Hey I was wondering if you
>are still plugged into the Kitfox e-mail list. If you are, could you
>inquire if anyone might have a Kitfox cargo pod they would be willing to
>sell or perhaps even rent. I'm thinking of making the trek to OSH next
>summer and I need more cargo space. As you know my early model 5 has a
>very
>small area behind the seat.
> >>Tim
>
>Thanks,
>Allan Arthur
>N40AA Series 5 Taildragger (107 hours)
>912 ULS, Warp Drive 3 blade prop
>Martinez, CA (Byron Airport, Hanger C8)
>
>
Cell phone switch rules are taking effect find out more here.
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| Subject: | "Learning to fly again" |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve M" <ondeck355@hotmail.com>
Not directly Kitfox-related, but cool anyway.
http://www.townhall.com
Learning to fly again
by Emmett Tyrrell
November 27, 2003
KITTY HAWK, N.C. -- Almost 100 years after the Wright brothers' first
flight, there is drama down here at the memorial where the Ohio bicycle
entrepreneurs made history.
For five days in the middle of December, the Wright Brothers National
Memorial will be celebrating the brothers' historic flight. The ceremonies
begin on Saturday, Dec. 13. By Dec. 15, some of the most famous names in
aviation will be arriving, among them Chuck Yeager, the fabled test pilot
who along with other achievements was the first to fly faster than the speed
of sound, and Neil Armstrong, commander of Apollo 11, who on July 20, 1969,
became the first human to walk on the moon.
Then, on Dec. 17, this windswept field will be crowded with dignitaries and
ordinary Americans to commemorate the centennial of the "12 seconds that
changed the world." But there is another drama taking place right now.
Before I mention today's drama, consider Orville and Wilbur Wright's
exploits. Back in Dayton, they were successful businessmen. Wilbur, the
older brother, was bookish and intense. Orville was more outgoing and
glad-handing. Both disturbed the town's settled folk with talk of putting
one of their contraptions into the air and actually flying from one point to
another.
There were many in 19th century Dayton who thought such talk was weird --
some thought it blasphemous. Yet the brothers kept tinkering in their shop
and disappearing to North Carolina's Outer Banks, where they would take
advantage of the ceaseless winds to develop wings, propellers and an engine.
The last two contrivances would complete their invention of what we today
call the airplane. The brothers' propeller and engine were uniquely their
own creations, manifestations of scientific and engineering skills that set
them apart.
By 1903, and after many depressing setbacks, they thought they had a crack
at making the first manned heavier-than-air flight. Dressed in coats and
ties on a chilly week in December, they brought their heavier-than-air
contraption to this field. They attached their 12 horsepower, 180-pound
engine to a 40-foot, 605-pound "Flyer" that looked like what we today might
call a biplane. Winning a coin toss over brother Orville, Wilbur on Dec. 14
made the first attempt to ride the Flyer into the sky. As it left its
launching rail, Wilbur miscalculated his steering device and, after a brief
ascent, hit the sand.
After repairs, the brothers were ready again on Dec. 17. This time, it was
Orville's turn. At 10:35 in the morning, he accelerated the Flyer along the
rail, with his brother running alongside steadying the wings. This time, the
bird took off, and man's first flight lasted 12 seconds and covered 120
feet. Taking turns, Wilbur and Orville made three more flights that day,
ending with Wilbur's record-setting 59 seconds aloft, covering 852 feet.
It all sounds quite easy, but everything they did that day and in all the
days leading up to the historic flight was arduous and chancy. After their
last flight, a gust of wind caught the parked machine, tipped it over and
smashed it beyond repair. The brothers returned to Dayton.
Throughout the next two years, they refined their airplane, and by 1905 they
could fly in circles for nearly 40 minutes. When they offered their
contraption to the United States Army, they were snubbed. Washington doubted
their claims. For the next three years, they gave up flying, as government
aviators in Washington and Paris tried to duplicate their achievement. All
failed badly (by 1906, none had remained above ground for more than a few
seconds), and doubts about the Wright brothers' claims spread.
Not until 1908 did they sign agreements with our government and the French
to assist those governments' faltering flying programs. Then, joining with
the Army and the French, the Wrights proved their superiority. Soon Wilbur,
in a more advanced plane, could remain aloft for 2 hours, reaching an
altitude of 360 feet. No one in the Army or in France had matched them. Now
they had proved their genius.
Here in Kitty Hawk, their genius has been proved again. On Nov. 20, modern
Americans tried to fly a replica of the Wright brothers' plane in
preparation for the centennial on Dec. 17. It flew 119 feet, one foot short
of the brothers' first flight, and crashed badly. No one was hurt, but the
plane is a mess. Now with great drama, a crew of 21st century technicians is
trying to get the plane back together for the take-off at 10:35, 100 years
after the first flight. They hope they can repair their modern-day airplane
so it can be flown on the day of the great celebration.
Maybe they can, but they have another problem. What if our modern engineers
and aviators fail to fly it as far as Orville flew his? Yeager broke the
sound barrier. Armstrong walked on the moon. But here at Kitty Hawk, it is
too early to say that we moderns can match those bicycle entrepreneurs from
Dayton, Ohio.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "gene m. calkins" <calkinsgm@charter.net>
List I have tracked down the guy that makes the skis that the wheel protrudes
thru the ski. I posted the pictures on sportflight.com in add-ons.. His name
is Greg Klemp PH. 1-920-293-8089 he is located at Neshkoro Wisconsin USA
that is about 30mi.west of the OSH airport. He is the guy that builds the engine
mounts, control sticks and other parts for the Sonex airplane. He is at that
phone 5 days a week. Gene N99GC
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Cargo Pod Suggestion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dmorisse" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> I've often wondered if it would be possible to use an automotive-type
> external luggage carrier on a Kitfox, mounted under the belly just behind
> the gear legs. Specifically, one of the long black plastic ones from the
> Yakima or Thule outfits. You probably know the one I mean: Long and
narrow,
> tapered at one end, sort of squared off on the other end.
>
> They are usually mounted on top of cars, tapered end to the front and
curved
> surface on top. I was thinking of turning it both upside-down and
backwards,
> so the blunt end was forward and the flat side nestled against the bottom
of
> the plane. Have to fabricate some sort of mounts to attach it to the bear
> and float mounts. Probably have to remove it from the plane to open it,
> since it's upside-down, unless you want your stuff to spill all over the
> ramp into those oil stains left by somebody's DC-3.
>
> Probably have to go behind the gear legs so that a hard landing won't
cause
> the bungee bars to hit it. And blunt end forward because I have a hunch
> that's a lower-drag configuration than tapered end forward, just like a
wing
> has its rounded edge forward and tapered-to-a-knife-edge back.
>
> Anyone ever tried this?
>
> Steve Maher
> Kitfox Model 2, what's a "luggage compartment"?
> San Diego, CA
I've considered the same thing Steve and always wondered why it's
aerodynamically backward. Then again, sail boats seem to be the same way.
Maybe water dynamics are different.
Go for it and let us know how it works.
Darrel
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| Subject: | Re: In-flight adjustable props |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
Yes, I have the NSI electrically adjustable prop setup on my Series 5.
What can I tell you about it?
-Scott McClintock, PLS-
Nome, Alaska
cnichols wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "cnichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
>
> Does anyone in the group have any experience with the cockpit adjustable prop
sold by NSI for use with their EA81 Subaru conversion? What about the Ivo in-flight
adjustable prop?
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Cargo Pod Suggestion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
dmorisse wrote:
> I've considered the same thing Steve and always wondered why it's
> aerodynamically backward. Then again, sail boats seem to be the same way.
> Maybe water dynamics are different.
Allow me to respectfully disagree with you, Darrel.
A wing has to have a blunt leading edge because if it hadn't, it would work
fine for a very small change in AoA but then stall very quick once the angle is
wrong.
A sailboat has often quite symmetrical waterlines or buttock lines, if you look
at the longitudinal sections. True, they often have a square transom, but that
is over the waterline, thus not interfering with the flow of the water. True
also, some modern racing sailboats have rather horizontal buttock lines, aft of
midship. But that is because the want to win races on the downwind leg, using
big spinnakers and they can only exceed their "hump" speed (1.34 times the
square root of the LWL, in feet) by "climbing" their bow wave. And to do that,
they need lift, as do speed boats and seaplanes.
On the other hand, vessels on the low range of the speed/length ratio, like
tankers, often have a bulb bow, pretty similar to a the blunt leading edge of a
wing.
In fact, the ideal submarine would be an egg, blunt end first, and a tail 9
times as long as the egg's length. I am sure you can figure out what, in
nature, has copied these features; the little guys who transmit their genes if
they come first, the natural selection! :-)
Regarding these "car cargo pods," that are very popular in Norway, because we
use them for our skis - I guess their sleek forward end and blunt after end is
only a matter of design, matching the look of the car itself. Yes, much is done
to streamline the bonnet of a car, but nothing, really, to reduce the
tremendous drag of air it pulls behind. And it may be just as well; a good
aerodynamic car with a long tail would be difficult to park! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | In-flight adjustable props |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Flown behind the Ivo and have been running it on the 912 ULS for the last 72
hours. I have been very pleased with the performance.
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of cnichols
Subject: Kitfox-List: In-flight adjustable props
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "cnichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Does anyone in the group have any experience with the cockpit adjustable
prop sold by NSI for use with their EA81 Subaru conversion? What about the
Ivo in-flight adjustable prop?
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Cargo Pod Suggestion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: KFN102LG@aol.com
One thing to keep in mind is that most of these pods have two flimsily
latches and hinges to hold the pod cover in place and a reinforced bottom. Mounting
the unit upside down means the load will be suspended from the latches and
hinges and turbulence could cause your Fox to resemble a C47 during D-day not to
mention what aerodynamic differences you could have with the unit partially
open. Approach this modification carefully.
Larry Gagnon
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| Subject: | In-flight adjustable props |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
I have 800 trouble-free hours on my NSI CAP
Peter Graichen
http://home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of cnichols
Subject: Kitfox-List: In-flight adjustable props
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "cnichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Does anyone in the group have any experience with the cockpit adjustable
prop sold by NSI for use with their EA81 Subaru conversion? What about the
Ivo in-flight adjustable prop?
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Cargo Pod Suggestion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Steve,
Interesting idea. A local builder used a plaster pan - the kind plasterers
use to mix the stuff on his airplane. It looked pretty good.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve M" <ondeck355@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Cargo Pod Suggestion
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve M" <ondeck355@hotmail.com>
>
> I've often wondered if it would be possible to use an automotive-type
> external luggage carrier on a Kitfox, mounted under the belly just behind
> the gear legs. Specifically, one of the long black plastic ones from the
> Yakima or Thule outfits. You probably know the one I mean: Long and
narrow,
> tapered at one end, sort of squared off on the other end.
>
> They are usually mounted on top of cars, tapered end to the front and
curved
> surface on top. I was thinking of turning it both upside-down and
backwards,
> so the blunt end was forward and the flat side nestled against the bottom
of
> the plane. Have to fabricate some sort of mounts to attach it to the bear
> and float mounts. Probably have to remove it from the plane to open it,
> since it's upside-down, unless you want your stuff to spill all over the
> ramp into those oil stains left by somebody's DC-3.
>
> Probably have to go behind the gear legs so that a hard landing won't
cause
> the bungee bars to hit it. And blunt end forward because I have a hunch
> that's a lower-drag configuration than tapered end forward, just like a
wing
> has its rounded edge forward and tapered-to-a-knife-edge back.
>
> Anyone ever tried this?
>
> Steve Maher
> Kitfox Model 2, what's a "luggage compartment"?
> San Diego, CA
>
>
> >From: "Allan Arthur" <alnan@earthlink.net>
> >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Kitfox-List: Cargo Pod Wanted
> >Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:23:43 -0800
> >
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Arthur" <alnan@earthlink.net>
> >
> >Former Lister, Tim Glenn is looking for a Cargo Pod, can anyone help?
> >
> >Received this message from Tim:
> > >>Hope all is well with you and your family. Hey I was wondering if you
> >are still plugged into the Kitfox e-mail list. If you are, could you
> >inquire if anyone might have a Kitfox cargo pod they would be willing to
> >sell or perhaps even rent. I'm thinking of making the trek to OSH next
> >summer and I need more cargo space. As you know my early model 5 has a
> >very
> >small area behind the seat.
> > >>Tim
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Allan Arthur
> >N40AA Series 5 Taildragger (107 hours)
> >912 ULS, Warp Drive 3 blade prop
> >Martinez, CA (Byron Airport, Hanger C8)
> >
> >
>
> Cell phone switch rules are taking effect find out more here.
> http://special.msn.com/msnbc/consumeradvocate.armx
>
>
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| Subject: | FW: Rotax 618 muffler |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Sent to wrong address.
-----Original Message-----
From: wing3120 [mailto:wing3120@yahoo.com]
Subject: Rotax 618 muffler
I would appreciate it if anyone could provide me with info on replacing a
Rotax 618 with a Bluehead 582. My K4-1200 has just turned 300 hours so it's
time to rebuild/replace the engine. The muffler is cracked and part of the
baffle system has broken loose.
New mufflers if I could find one run $750 or so. It may be best to upgrade
to a new 582 considering the combined cost of the muffler and rebuild.
My concern is how the 582 will fit in place of the 618 considering the
difference in the exhaust system. It appears that the 618 muffler may have
been welded up special to fit the Kitfox. The canister runs down the left
side and the cone across the front under the engine mount. To make the
distance across it looks like a small section was welded to the cone. The
people at Skystar don't seem to know anything about the 618 powered kits as
they were before their time.
Any photos of the 582 exhaust installation would really help me.
Thanks
Don Berridge
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Rotax 618 muffler |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <aerocon1@telusplanet.net>
Don B,
You could do a change over to the 582 quite easily.... Your current gear
drive would be a bolt on. The engine will be a "drop in" as the engine
mounting bolts patterns are identical. The exhaust system is going to be
the biggest difference. The 582 exhaust is more compact and will fit inside
your cowl nicely. You could even use your existing propeller (as long as it
is an adjustable prop).
You may be best off in asking Skystar what chances they make to the 582
exhaust manifold (Y-Pipe). I believe they make a slight change so the
exhaust system clears the cowling.
Hope this helps
Bob Robertson
Light Engnie Services Ltd.
Rotax Service Center
St. Albert, Ab.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: FW: Rotax 618 muffler
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
<donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
> Sent to wrong address.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wing3120 [mailto:wing3120@yahoo.com]
> To: owner-kitfox@sportflight.com
> Subject: Rotax 618 muffler
>
> I would appreciate it if anyone could provide me with info on replacing a
> Rotax 618 with a Bluehead 582. My K4-1200 has just turned 300 hours so
it's
> time to rebuild/replace the engine. The muffler is cracked and part of
the
> baffle system has broken loose.
> New mufflers if I could find one run $750 or so. It may be best to
upgrade
> to a new 582 considering the combined cost of the muffler and rebuild.
> My concern is how the 582 will fit in place of the 618 considering the
> difference in the exhaust system. It appears that the 618 muffler may have
> been welded up special to fit the Kitfox. The canister runs down the left
> side and the cone across the front under the engine mount. To make the
> distance across it looks like a small section was welded to the cone. The
> people at Skystar don't seem to know anything about the 618 powered kits
as
> they were before their time.
> Any photos of the 582 exhaust installation would really help me.
>
> Thanks
> Don Berridge
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Cargo Pod Suggestion |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com
In a message dated 12/12/03 5:36:50 PM Pacific Standard Time,
lcfitt@inreach.com writes:
And blunt end forward because I have a hunch > that's a lower-drag
configuration than tapered end forward, just like a wing > has its rounded edge
forward
and tapered-to-a-knife-edge back.
>
Lowell,
My aerodynamicist said [in my words] "the blunt trailing edge lets the air
find its own airfoil for least amount of drag"~~look at the newer cars and the
blunt rear ends, also the X-15 at the other speed range had square trailing
edges on the fins, like a triangle, sharp edge forward.
With the wing you are looking for lift :-)
Elbie
Elbie Mendenhall
www.RiteAngle.com
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