Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Thu 12/18/03


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:25 AM - Re: Header tank leak (Bob Unternaehrer)
     2. 06:34 AM - Re: Header tank leak (Gary Algate)
     3. 06:39 AM - comments on skis (Bob Unternaehrer)
     4. 07:21 AM - Re: Off topic for Gary Algate (Ron Carroll)
     5. 09:04 AM - connection probs....... (sid)
     6. 11:07 AM - Re: connection probs....... (Ron Carroll)
     7. 01:13 PM - Re: comments on skis (Michel Verheughe)
     8. 01:47 PM - Re: Pics of 912 in a model 3 (Dcecil3@aol.com)
     9. 02:29 PM - test (Don Berridge)
    10. 03:16 PM - Wheel Skis (Scott McClintock)
    11. 04:25 PM - Re: Header tank leak (JMCBEAN)
    12. 05:44 PM - floats-S-6, amphib (Fred Shiple)
    13. 09:16 PM - Re: Wheel Skis (kurt schrader)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:25:07 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
    Subject: Re: Header tank leak
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> If you go to the autoparts stores ,,, they have fuel tank repair material that you mix and apply directly to leaks with the fuel in them....READ about it and see if it will work on PLASTIC,, probably polypropalene.... If the tank is ABS they there are two part ABS repair epoxy available that I got at a PPG paint store.. I might still have an empty tube if your interested in the details. I used it to repair ABS farings.. It doesn't have much tensil strength to cover structural cracks unless you enbed fiber glass cloth in it. IF it's just a fitting leak,,,more teflon tape,,,carefully applied behing the front threads might have a chance, but you for sure don't want to get any into the fuel lines... bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Seaford" <jseaford@bellsouth.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Header tank leak > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jack Seaford" <jseaford@bellsouth.net> > > My header tank leaks at the bottom were the brass screws into the tank. Not sure what tank is make of. > Any ideas on fixing this leak. Maybe some sort of pipe dope? > The tank is made from some sort of soft material. > Plane is a 4-1200 > > Thanks > Jack Seaford > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]


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    Time: 06:34:02 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
    Subject: Header tank leak
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net> Jack Have you tried putting a hose clamp around the plastic boss and tightening it. I had a similar problem on my header tank and this simple fix solved it immediately Gary Gary Algate President SDS Digger Tools Canada Inc Ph. +1 (705) 670-8459 Fax +1 (705) 670-9591 Cell +1 (705) 688-2236 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My header tank leaks at the bottom were the brass screws into the tank. Not sure what tank is make of. Any ideas on fixing this leak. Maybe some sort of pipe dope? The tank is made from some sort of soft material. Plane is a 4-1200 Thanks Jack Seaford <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


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    Time: 06:39:17 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
    Subject: comments on skis
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> I live in MO. where the snow,,,even if we goet some,,, doesn't stay around to long at a time... Would still liketo try skis...What is the advantages and disadvantagesof wheel penetration skis??? Can you still taxi and land the airplane on grass or pavement?? I have the Grove spring gear and Cleveland 1 1/2 inch axles. Blue Skies Bob Unternaehrer shilocom@c-magic.com


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    Time: 07:21:42 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Carroll" <RonCarr@qwest.net>
    Subject: Re: Off topic for Gary Algate
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Carroll" <RonCarr@Qwest.Net> Gary, sorry to bother you again so soon, but I forgot to re-ask you about your experience with a Challenger. There is a 2-place for sale locally that is pretty cherry. I have considered them, but never flown one. I'd like your opinion. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Algate To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:41 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Off topic for Gary Algate --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net> Ron I don't understand why you couldn't get through on my algate@attglobal.net email address as I am receiving emails consistently. I have left my private contact numbers so that you can call or fax me whenever convenient Gary Algate President SDS Digger Tools Canada Inc Ph. +1 (705) 670-8459 Fax +1 (705) 670-9591 Cell +1 (705) 688-2236 Do not archive Gary, I tried to write you off-list ( algate@attglobal.net ), but the message was rejected by your server. Is there a way to write you directly. I have a couple of questions that I don't want to bother the list with, regarding IVO in-flight adjustable props, and Challenger ultralights. Ron Carroll


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    Time: 09:04:50 AM PST US
    From: "sid" <sid@i2k.com>
    Subject: connection probs.......
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "sid" <sid@i2k.com> > Are you using WinXP? ------------------------------- > I know I must have a computer settings problem,,, that doesn't work > either,,, got the same message..."cannot display page" any body got some > suggestions.. I've emailed the help section several times and got nowhere. > Bob U. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John" <kitfoxjh@floodcity.net> > To: "Kitfox List" <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Vixen > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John" <kitfoxjh@floodcity.net> > > > > If the link doesn't work for the Vixen, you can go to e-bay and use the > > item # in the search. It is 2449108631. > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > >


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    Time: 11:07:21 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Carroll" <RonCarr@qwest.net>
    Subject: Re: connection probs.......
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Carroll" <RonCarr@Qwest.Net> I am using XP-Pro, and have no problem getting to that site. However, I have found that things like this can be greatly affected by the anti-virus software, and the firewall software installed on my system. If you try to be strict when you set these programs up you will likely restrict yourself right back into a corner.. Also, restricting cookies too severely will sometimes affect what you can access. Some sites require cookies. Ron do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: sid To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:04 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: connection probs....... --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "sid" <sid@i2k.com> > Are you using WinXP? ------------------------------- > I know I must have a computer settings problem,,, that doesn't work > either,,, got the same message..."cannot display page" any body got some > suggestions.. I've emailed the help section several times and got nowhere. > Bob U. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John" <kitfoxjh@floodcity.net> > To: "Kitfox List" <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Vixen > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John" <kitfoxjh@floodcity.net> > > > > If the link doesn't work for the Vixen, you can go to e-bay and use the > > item # in the search. It is 2449108631. > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > >


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    Time: 01:13:19 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: comments on skis
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Bob Unternaehrer wrote: > Would still liketo try skis...What is the advantages and disadvantagesof wheel > penetration skis??? Well, I don't have skis yet, Bob, so my opinion is only theoretical. Here, we have a lot of snow. But at my airfield, the asphalt runway is cleaned for snow very shortly after a snowfall. I am sure I can fly the whole winter with only tyres. But I don't like the idea to fly cross-country with only tyres, knowing that under me I have maybe several feet of snow. So, for me, the wheel penetration skis are ideal: I can take off from asphalt and land on snow, if needed. The drawback is probably the extra weight. The advantage is probably that I don't need to jack up the plane, remove the wheel and bleed the brake fluid, to change from wheel to ski and vice-versa. Also, I can hangar the plane without needing a dolly. I guess it won't be too much of a problem to land with the wheel penetration skis on asphalt since there is a little wheel at the end of the skis. I am sure it will make a noise when taxiing and taking off but I can live with that. For the time being, I have seen the Avid Flyer penetration skis. But they are not wide enough for my balloon tyres. I intend to make my own skis. Or rather, get someone to weld them for me. The problem I a dealing with now is whether I should try to remove the axle and replace it with a longer one, or if I can just extend the existing one. The problem is: how to remover the axle? I talked to the first owner of the plane, the guy who built it, and he confirms that he got the axles in place by doing as the Denny's manual says: put the axle in the freezer and heat up the gear. If I am to get it out, I'll have to reverse this cold/heat process. My next step: talk to a local guy who knows more than me about mechanic. It's never a bad idea to ask several opinions before doing this kind of work. Cheers, Michel


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    Time: 01:47:02 PM PST US
    From: Dcecil3@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Pics of 912 in a model 3
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com Can anyone send me pics of a 912 in a Model 3? As maney as you can of the motor mount ,Radiator Placement and Oil Cooler ,as well as any baffeling that might be needed Thanks David KF950


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    Time: 02:29:41 PM PST US
    From: Don Berridge <wing3120@yahoo.com>
    Subject: test
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Don Berridge <wing3120@yahoo.com> Testing my posting ability. Hope this works. ---------------------------------


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    Time: 03:16:21 PM PST US
    From: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
    Subject: Wheel Skis
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us> Bob Unternaehrer wrote: > Would still liketo try skis...What is the advantages and disadvantagesof wheel > penetration skis??? Bob, I just finished fabricating myself a set of wheel-thru skis for my Series V. Michel is partially correct in his assumptions. I too have the wide Tundra tires so I could not "buy" a ready made set. Mine are fabbed using 1/2" square aluminum tubing and are based on the design of the gentleman from Wisconsin who does some work on the Sonex. He has some nice pictures and I can e-mail you pics of mine if you want. The ski part is made from 3/8" HDP (same thing we use for dog sled runners up here) and you can find this about anywhere "Down South". My skis weigh about 3 lbs each including the bungees and safety rigging. About a gallon of fuel worth. ( Most of the weight is the HDP) They are just slightly heavier than the wheel pants that I removed this last summer and I made them long and wide enough so that they float on deep snow. It is critical that you do not allow too much of the wheel to protrude through the ski. I have just under two inches of tire showing. Otherwise, the tires act as a brake in the snow. I used a roller blade wheel to support the rear of the skis. It's nice to have the ability to use "reverse" thrust to slow down on the hard packed snow. I don't use any braking on snow/ice anyway but rollout can be long without the "reverse" especially when landing on frozen, windblown lakes. (Don't forget to put in some kind of a center runner or you will put yourself in a hellofa ground loop) Have fun on your skis! I think they look pretty cool! Scott McClintock Nome, Alaska


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    Time: 04:25:28 PM PST US
    From: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
    Subject: Header tank leak
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net> Jack, Typically the leak is around the coupling and not the fitting. The couplings need to be removed, cleaned, dried and then re-installed using a sealant such as Permatex 9AR. Blue Skies!! John & Debra McBean "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Seaford" <jseaford@bellsouth.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Header tank leak > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jack Seaford" <jseaford@bellsouth.net> > > My header tank leaks at the bottom were the brass screws into the tank. Not sure what tank is make of. > Any ideas on fixing this leak. Maybe some sort of pipe dope? > The tank is made from some sort of soft material. > Plane is a 4-1200 > > Thanks > Jack Seaford > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]


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    Time: 05:44:59 PM PST US
    From: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: floats-S-6, amphib
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net> I'd like to start a dialogue on S-6 amphib floats. I seem to recall seeing a discussion on S-4's on floats but not the 5's, 6's, and 7's. N60FS get's inspected on Monday, so its time to get serious and make a choice. The Czech Work's float is well made, but also quite expensive. Murphy's kit looked to be well designed and looks to be lighter. It's difficult to get installed weights from the manufacturers They seem willing to supply a weight/float, but not the exchange weight the builder will see when the floats are on the plane. Would like to hear your experiences with specific float manufactures as you worked thru your installation. Also, someone offered to answer questions by phone over the past year. I lost some files and no longer have the e-mail address. Would appreciate hearing from you if you'd be willing to answer a lot of questions over the phone about your experience. Fred


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    Time: 09:16:14 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Wheel Skis
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Scott, Sounds like your's are well thought out. Could you post some pics and/or drawings on SportFlight of your skis? I am interested and apparently others are too. Kurt S. Series 5 --- Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock > <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us> > > I just finished fabricating myself a set of > wheel-thru skis for my Series V. ........ > Have fun on your skis! I think they look pretty > cool! > Scott McClintock > Nome, Alaska __________________________________




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