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1. 02:06 AM - Re: Wheel Skis (michel)
2. 04:47 AM - Re: Header tank leak (Bob Unternaehrer)
3. 04:47 AM - Re: Header tank leak (Bob Unternaehrer)
4. 06:37 AM - Coolant for liquid cooled engines (Paul)
5. 06:45 AM - Vortex Generators (sid)
6. 06:45 AM - connection probs....... (sid)
7. 06:54 AM - Wheel Skis (sid)
8. 07:52 AM - Re: comments on skis (Kirk's Welding)
9. 08:53 AM - Header Tank (Jack Seaford)
10. 10:10 AM - Re: Wheel Skis (Scott McClintock)
11. 10:56 AM - Re: Header Tank (Gary Algate)
12. 11:36 AM - Vortex Generators (FlyCyOZ@aol.com)
13. 12:10 PM - Phone No. (Jack Seaford)
14. 12:40 PM - Re: Phone No. (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
15. 12:48 PM - Re: Phone No. (Clifford Begnaud)
16. 01:20 PM - Stitts fabric (Kitfox)
17. 03:01 PM - Re: Stitts fabric (Kirby Cramer)
18. 06:05 PM - ELT (Bob Unternaehrer)
19. 06:08 PM - Re: Vortex Generators (Floran Higgins)
20. 06:27 PM - Re: Vortex Generators (JMCBEAN)
21. 06:27 PM - Re: ELT (JMCBEAN)
22. 06:28 PM - Re: Retirement (davestapa@juno.com)
23. 06:36 PM - Re: Vortex Generators (Milt's Kitfox Stuff)
24. 06:39 PM - Re: Header tank leak (Rick)
25. 07:57 PM - Re: Vortex Generators (jimshumaker)
26. 08:01 PM - Re: Vortex Generators (jimshumaker)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
>===== Original Message From Scott McClintock
>It is critical that you do not allow too much of the wheel to protrude
>through the ski.
Thanks Scott, I make a note of that.
>Don't forget to put in some kind of a center runner
Thanks again. Good stuff!
Now, what did you do with the axle, Scott? Did you replace the old one or just
extended it? If the former, what do you do in summer? did you make a hole in
the "grease cup?"
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Header tank leak |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Header tank leak
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
>
> Jack, check out sport flight and the aluminum header tanks. I think you
will
> be much happier and have a better reserve.
>
> Rick
>
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| Subject: | Re: Header tank leak |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
Rick,, Can you help me find info on header tanks on sportflight.
Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Header tank leak
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
>
> Jack, check out sport flight and the aluminum header tanks. I think you
will
> be much happier and have a better reserve.
>
> Rick
>
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| Subject: | Coolant for liquid cooled engines |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul <pwilson@climber.org>
One of the things that is common for high specific output engines is to operate
the engine with high coolant pressure which raises the boiling point to give
margin against overheating. Rotax has finally done their home work and has revised
their pressure cap for the 91X series engines to 18 psi. The service instruction
SI-25-1997R5 makes this change. (This instruction also gives revised
torque specs for fasteners and fittings). The info is applicable to both the
UL series and the certified versions.
A companion Service letter gives the engineering background and pressure vs boiling
point data. See SL-912-009R1 or SL914-008R1. This info is applicable to
any liquid cooled engine with ethylene glycol and would be a good addition to
the info to the Sportflight database.
If you have a Rotax engine and do not get these automatic info. notices go to
http://www.rotax-owner.com and sign up for email notification. Rotax does a great job of keeping the owners abreast of details on their engines.
Paul
Discalimer:
Those of you with Rotax engines other than the 91X series will have to go to the
the Rotax web site for possible info for their specific engine.
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| Subject: | Vortex Generators |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "sid" <sid@i2k.com>
Refresh my memory, what did I learn about the leading edge tangent that I
can't remember? Huh?
Sid
I am going to try this on my aerobat to reduce the stall speed for
landings......
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> Yes, five mph stall reduction. Makes a big difference when short field
> landing. Set within 3" of the leading edge tangent.
>
> Jim Shumaker
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lmar" <Lmar@direcway.com>
> To: <Kitfox-List@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Vortex Generators
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lmar <Lmar@direcway.com>
> >
> >
> > Has anyone given consideration to the possibilities of using VGs?
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | connection probs....... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "sid" <sid@i2k.com>
Ron, there is a know issue with the Me,2000, and the XP versions concerning
the "can not find page" error message. I don't have it in front of me, but
have seen the questions/answers in several help forums and chat groups. I
will be looking for the correction myself, as I get the same thing way too
many times now after switching to XP Home Edition.........will keep you
posted when I find it. I remember its a simple configuration situation
solution.
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> However, I have found that things like this can be greatly affected by the
anti-virus software, and the firewall software installed on my system.
>
> If you try to be strict when you set these programs up you will likely
restrict yourself right back into a corner.. Also, restricting cookies too
severely will sometimes affect what you can access. Some sites require
cookies.
>
> Ron
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sid
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:04 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: connection probs.......
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "sid" <sid@i2k.com>
>
>
> > Are you using WinXP?
> -------------------------------
>
>
> > I know I must have a computer settings problem,,, that doesn't work
> > either,,, got the same message..."cannot display page" any body got
some
> > suggestions.. I've emailed the help section several times and got
nowhere.
> > Bob U.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John" <kitfoxjh@floodcity.net>
> > To: "Kitfox List" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Vixen
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John" <kitfoxjh@floodcity.net>
> > >
> > > If the link doesn't work for the Vixen, you can go to e-bay and use
the
> > > item # in the search. It is 2449108631.
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "sid" <sid@i2k.com>
So, Scott, now to put the photos up somewhere so we can see and judge the
job.......... :-)
Sid
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> I just finished fabricating myself a set of wheel-thru skis for my
> Series V.
>
> Michel is partially correct in his assumptions. I too have the wide
> Tundra tires so I could not "buy" a ready made set.
> Mine are fabbed using 1/2" square aluminum tubing and are based on the
> design of the gentleman from Wisconsin who does some work on the Sonex.
> He has some nice pictures and I can e-mail you pics of mine if you want.
>
> The ski part is made from 3/8" HDP (same thing we use for dog sled
> runners up here) and you can find this about anywhere "Down South".
> My skis weigh about 3 lbs each including the bungees and safety rigging.
> About a gallon of fuel worth.
> ( Most of the weight is the HDP)
> They are just slightly heavier than the wheel pants that I removed this
> last summer and I made them long and wide enough so that they float on
> deep snow.
> It is critical that you do not allow too much of the wheel to protrude
> through the ski. I have just under two inches of tire showing.
> Otherwise, the tires act as a brake in the snow. I used a roller blade
> wheel to support the rear of the skis. It's nice to have the ability to
> use "reverse" thrust to slow down on the hard packed snow. I don't use
> any braking on snow/ice anyway but rollout can be long without the
> "reverse" especially when landing on frozen, windblown lakes. (Don't
> forget to put in some kind of a center runner or you will put yourself
> in a hellofa ground loop)
> Have fun on your skis! I think they look pretty cool!
> Scott McClintock
> Nome, Alaska
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: comments on skis |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kirk's Welding" <kirk@mninter.net>
Hello:
I had the same problem with asphalt taxiways and runways here in Minnesota.
So I designed and built my own skis with taxi wheels installed for my Kitfox
CIV (contact me for photos). This allows me to taxi to the runway via the
taxiways, then take off and land next to the runway. These are the second
article skis. I did some testing with the prototype last year and had to
make some adjustments. I will be custom making and selling these skis.
Contact:
Kirk Martenson
Kirk's Welding
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: comments on skis
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Bob Unternaehrer wrote:
> > Would still liketo try skis...What is the advantages and disadvantagesof
wheel
> > penetration skis???
>
> Well, I don't have skis yet, Bob, so my opinion is only theoretical.
> Here, we have a lot of snow. But at my airfield, the asphalt runway is
cleaned
> for snow very shortly after a snowfall. I am sure I can fly the whole
winter
> with only tyres. But I don't like the idea to fly cross-country with only
> tyres, knowing that under me I have maybe several feet of snow. So, for
me, the
> wheel penetration skis are ideal: I can take off from asphalt and land on
snow,
> if needed.
> The drawback is probably the extra weight. The advantage is probably that
I
> don't need to jack up the plane, remove the wheel and bleed the brake
fluid, to
> change from wheel to ski and vice-versa. Also, I can hangar the plane
without
> needing a dolly.
>
> I guess it won't be too much of a problem to land with the wheel
penetration
> skis on asphalt since there is a little wheel at the end of the skis. I am
sure
> it will make a noise when taxiing and taking off but I can live with that.
>
> For the time being, I have seen the Avid Flyer penetration skis. But they
are
> not wide enough for my balloon tyres. I intend to make my own skis. Or
rather,
> get someone to weld them for me. The problem I a dealing with now is
whether I
> should try to remove the axle and replace it with a longer one, or if I
can
> just extend the existing one. The problem is: how to remover the axle? I
talked
> to the first owner of the plane, the guy who built it, and he confirms
that he
> got the axles in place by doing as the Denny's manual says: put the axle
in the
> freezer and heat up the gear. If I am to get it out, I'll have to reverse
this
> cold/heat process.
> My next step: talk to a local guy who knows more than me about mechanic.
It's
> never a bad idea to ask several opinions before doing this kind of work.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jack Seaford" <jseaford@bellsouth.net>
Thanks every one for your help.
I used the permatex 9AR plus I also put a water clamp around the neck as some one
suggested, seems to have fixed the leak.
I plan to make my first flight as soon as the weather will let me.
Kitfox 4-1200
Thank again
Jack Seaford
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
Michel,
Actually, as I have no plans on using my wheel pants, I enlarged the existing hole
in the cap, rethreaded the hole and run a 3/4" bolt to mount from the outboard
side. I used a thinned nut as a stop. For the inboard side of the mount, I made
a
plate with a 3/4" bolt head of which is shaped and welded to the center. I also
replaced the 4 mounting bolts which run thru the spring gear with 3/8" dia.
stainless steel which are also longer to accommodate the thickness of the mounting
plate. The bonus to this is that I don't need to remove the wheels at all and when
"break-up" comes in June, I just need to replace with a "blank" plate which I
already made of aluminum. (Same size as the mounting plate)
I wanted to make these as simple and easy as I could without extending the
existing axle. I must admit though, that I did enlist the assistance of a friend
of mine who is a certified welder and "master" at creative engineering.
Best Holiday Wishes
-Scott-
michel wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
>
> >===== Original Message From Scott McClintock
> >It is critical that you do not allow too much of the wheel to protrude
> >through the ski.
> Thanks Scott, I make a note of that.
>
> >Don't forget to put in some kind of a center runner
> Thanks again. Good stuff!
>
> Now, what did you do with the axle, Scott? Did you replace the old one or just
> extended it? If the former, what do you do in summer? did you make a hole in
> the "grease cup?"
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Jack the water clamp idea came from a friend of mine. I had put up with that
weeping fitting and my cockpit smelling like a gas station for 12 months as
I dreaded having to pull the tank out. My friend was looking at it one day
and just said "why don't you just put a clamp around it?"
Too simple and worked just great
Sometimes I thing we spend too much time thinking about these problems and
miss the simple solutions.
Gary Algate
Lite2/582
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Seaford
Subject: Kitfox-List: Header Tank
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jack Seaford"
--> <jseaford@bellsouth.net>
Thanks every one for your help.
I used the permatex 9AR plus I also put a water clamp around the neck as
some one suggested, seems to have fixed the leak. I plan to make my first
flight as soon as the weather will let me. Kitfox 4-1200
Thank again
Jack Seaford
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| Subject: | Vortex Generators |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: FlyCyOZ@aol.com
Are there any plans for the actual layout of the vortex generators???
Thanx.
cy
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jack Seaford" <jseaford@bellsouth.net>
Does anyone know the phone No. for BLue Sky Aviation, Inc.
866-859-0390 does not work.
Thanks
Jack Seaford
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net>
Try the 406-538-6574
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jack Seaford
Subject: Kitfox-List: Phone No.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jack Seaford" <jseaford@bellsouth.net>
Does anyone know the phone No. for BLue Sky Aviation, Inc.
866-859-0390 does not work.
Thanks
Jack Seaford
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Try this: 406-538-6574
>
> Does anyone know the phone No. for BLue Sky Aviation, Inc.
> 866-859-0390 does not work.
>
>
> Thanks
> Jack Seaford
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kitfox" <Kitfox@chrisbates.co.uk>
I need to buy some stitts to re-cover my wings.
I've tried Sacremento Sky Ranch but they have taken all week to say they
won't export to the UK and I was intending to cover them next week!
Has anyone got any contact details where I can get this from.
Thanks,
Chris MKII UK
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kirby Cramer" <kitfox@mcn.org>
How about aircraft spruce UK?
Cordially,
Kirby Cramer
Broker Associate
Award Commercial Properties
San Diego, CA
760-505-3173
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfox
Subject: Kitfox-List: Stitts fabric
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kitfox" <Kitfox@chrisbates.co.uk>
I need to buy some stitts to re-cover my wings.
I've tried Sacremento Sky Ranch but they have taken all week to say they
won't export to the UK and I was intending to cover them next week! Has
anyone got any contact details where I can get this from. Thanks, Chris
MKII UK
==
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
Do most of you Kitfoxers install ELT's... It appears like all US Regestered Civil
Airplanes require one unless you stay withing 50 miles of home or are a single
place... Does anybody know if the two place "Fat Ultralites" or Ultralite
trainers that are registered with EAA or USULA have to have an ELT.
Blue Skies
Bob Unternaehrer
shilocom@c-magic.com
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Floran Higgins" <CliffH@outdrs.net>
Try: Pacific Northwest Aero
www.pnwaero.com
Floran
----- Original Message -----
From: <FlyCyOZ@aol.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Vortex Generators
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: FlyCyOZ@aol.com
>
> Are there any plans for the actual layout of the vortex generators???
>
> Thanx.
>
> cy
>
>
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| Subject: | Vortex Generators |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
What if... there was a kit offered for around $250.00
Any Takers...
Please contact me off list......
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Floran Higgins
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Vortex Generators
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Floran Higgins" <CliffH@outdrs.net>
Try: Pacific Northwest Aero
www.pnwaero.com
Floran
----- Original Message -----
From: <FlyCyOZ@aol.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Vortex Generators
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: FlyCyOZ@aol.com
>
> Are there any plans for the actual layout of the vortex generators???
>
> Thanx.
>
> cy
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Ultralights are not required to have an ELT. If you are going to operate
outside the 50 miles and are a US registered aircraft you are required to
have one.
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bob Unternaehrer
Subject: Kitfox-List: ELT
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
Do most of you Kitfoxers install ELT's... It appears like all US Regestered
Civil Airplanes require one unless you stay withing 50 miles of home or are
a single place... Does anybody know if the two place "Fat Ultralites" or
Ultralite trainers that are registered with EAA or USULA have to have an
ELT.
Blue Skies
Bob Unternaehrer
shilocom@c-magic.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: davestapa@juno.com
Don Smythe, congratulations on your retirement. Just saw your Flag
Ceremony Pic on Sportflight. Can't wait till I get there. Now you can
play with the Fox full time.
David Estapa
Woodstock, GA
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Milt's Kitfox Stuff" <flysly@erols.com>
Cy,
G'day. The CCI VGs come with a template for laying them out. The only
thing to figure is how far aft of the leading edge to place them. It's
important to get them far enough forward that the airflow still has plenty
of energy to create a good vortex, but far enough aft that the vortices
don't dissipate before they reach the trailing edge. CCI's research
recommend one VG per inch. Hacking around on the NASA web site over at
Langley AFB I came across a rule of thumb of about 10% of chord aft of the
leading edge. From their data, it seems as though the sweet spot is going
to be about 8-12% of MAC. I think some guys may be industrious enough to
experiment to find the ideal position, but it seems like you couldn't go too
far wrong by placing them 10% aft.
Take Care,
Milt
Series V Outback, Franklin A-235
----- Original Message -----
From: <FlyCyOZ@aol.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Vortex Generators
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: FlyCyOZ@aol.com
>
> Are there any plans for the actual layout of the vortex generators???
>
> Thanx.
>
> cy
>
>
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| Subject: | Header tank leak |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
I will go look but, remember it being under improvements and titled header
tank. Nope, its under add ons.
http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=main&category=Add-Ons/
Modifications
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bob
Unternaehrer
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Header tank leak
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
Rick,, Can you help me find info on header tanks on sportflight.
Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Header tank leak
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
>
> Jack, check out sport flight and the aluminum header tanks. I think you
will
> be much happier and have a better reserve.
>
> Rick
>
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Wow, that didn't make much sense....I should have said, I measure back from
the leading edge from a vertical plane tangent to the leading edge.
Wellll... actually I just hold a trisquare up against the leading edge (with
the ruler set for 3 inches) and measure straight back on the level. I got 5
mph stall reduction at 3 inches and less further back. I have seen other
installations that were within an inch that got 5 mph reduction also.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message -----
From: "sid" <sid@i2k.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Vortex Generators
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "sid" <sid@i2k.com>
>
>
> Refresh my memory, what did I learn about the leading edge tangent that I
> can't remember? Huh?
> Sid
> I am going to try this on my aerobat to reduce the stall speed for
> landings......
> -------------------------
> > Yes, five mph stall reduction. Makes a big difference when short field
> > landing. Set within 3" of the leading edge tangent.
> >
> > Jim Shumaker
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lmar" <Lmar@direcway.com>
> > To: <Kitfox-List@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Vortex Generators
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lmar <Lmar@direcway.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone given consideration to the possibilities of using VGs?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Just caught that you are going to do this on an aerobat. I take it that is
the Cessna 150 aerobat? I really like that plane.
It has a different airfoil that the undercambered Kitfox III but the
reduction will probably be in the 12 to 15 percent range.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message -----
From: "sid" <sid@i2k.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Vortex Generators
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "sid" <sid@i2k.com>
>
>
> Refresh my memory, what did I learn about the leading edge tangent that I
> can't remember? Huh?
> Sid
> I am going to try this on my aerobat to reduce the stall speed for
> landings......
> -------------------------
> > Yes, five mph stall reduction. Makes a big difference when short field
> > landing. Set within 3" of the leading edge tangent.
> >
> > Jim Shumaker
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lmar" <Lmar@direcway.com>
> > To: <Kitfox-List@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Vortex Generators
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lmar <Lmar@direcway.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone given consideration to the possibilities of using VGs?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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