Today's Message Index:
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1. 06:33 AM - Re: Retirement (Lowell Fitt)
2. 08:08 AM - Rotax 618 to 582 help (Don Berridge)
3. 08:29 AM - Euro Foxes. WAS Stitts fabric (Michel Verheughe)
4. 08:56 AM - Re: Euro Foxes. WAS Stitts fabric (Kitfox)
5. 09:43 AM - Re: Regulator-Rectifire (Dcecil3@aol.com)
6. 10:46 AM - Re: European Kitfoxes (Kerry Skyring)
7. 10:47 AM - Finished at last (Dave & Wendy Grosvenor)
8. 11:17 AM - Re: Re: European Kitfoxes (Kurt A. Schumacher)
9. 12:22 PM - Re: Euro Foxes. (Michel Verheughe)
10. 12:26 PM - Re: Re: European Kitfoxes (Michel Verheughe)
11. 01:28 PM - Re: Re: European Kitfoxes (Kitfox)
12. 01:53 PM - Re: Wheel Skis (Paul Seehafer)
13. 01:59 PM - Re: comments on skis (Paul Seehafer)
14. 02:03 PM - Re: Re: European Kitfoxes (Kurt A. Schumacher)
15. 02:06 PM - Re: Re: European Kitfoxes (Kitfox)
16. 02:32 PM - Re: Re: European Kitfoxes (Kitfox)
17. 03:40 PM - Re: Re: European Kitfoxes (Kurt A. Schumacher)
18. 03:42 PM - Re: Finished at last (Lowell Fitt)
19. 03:58 PM - Re: Rotax 618 to 582 help (Jim Burke)
20. 04:25 PM - European Kitfoxes (Lowell Fitt)
21. 06:06 PM - Re: Annual Aircraft Registration (John E. King)
22. 06:13 PM - Re: Stitts fabric (John E. King)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Don,
Always welcome in Cameron Park. If you itinerary brings you this way and
the time is right. Stay here! The neighbors, though, complain a little bit
about Helicopters taxiing on the joint street / taxiways.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Retirement
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> Don Smythe, congratulations on your retirement. Just saw your Flag
> Ceremony Pic on Sportflight. Can't wait till I get there. Now you can
> play with the Fox full time.
>
> David Estapa
> Woodstock, GA
>
>
> David and All,
> Thanks, it's a time of bitter sweet memories. However, it's mostly
> sweet. The flag pic didn't have much to do with Kitfox but sure was
important to
> me. The Rich man just bought a new R-22 to replace his little mishap last
> year. The R-22 is in Seattle, Wa. and I might be going back with him in
Jan to
> fly it home to Va. We will fly down through Ca. and cross the Rockies at
the
> southern end for the track eastward. I might be asking for some stop over
> points when the time comes near.
> All have a safe and happy holidays.
>
> Don Smythe
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Rotax 618 to 582 help |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Don Berridge <wing3120@yahoo.com>
For those of you who have or are installing a Rotax 618, I thought I would offer
some info on my experiences with this engine. Because of the high cost of any
overhaul, I've just purchased a 582 for a replacement but the decission was
tough.
I acquired my K4-1200 with just over 100 hours on and have just hit the magic 300
hour mark. The plane is nine years old now. During that time I have been
very impressed with the performance of the 618 and have had virtually no problems
with it. I did clean the RAVE valves every 40-50 hours and this is a must
to keep them free from sticking. Also I had a muffler crack and loose baffles
when I removed the engine at 300 hrs. Something to keep an eye on, probably
for any 2 stroke engine. And one other thing. The mag end starter needed new
bearings, done at a local electric motor shop. I noticed slow cranking/hard
starting and excessive brush wear. With the rebuild complete the engine was
very easy to start using prime only, on the coldest of days.
While I was trying to make up my mine whether to overhaul or not, LEAF did tear
down the 618 engine to see what it would be worth should I want to trade. The
engine was in excellent condition, no rust or wear on the crank bearings and
rings a bit sticky but still doing the job. There was very little carbon buildup
anywhere. The oil injection was working well obviously as this was the first
time the engine had been apart. Oil used was Pennzoil Outboard TC-W3.
I now have the new 582 in my garage, ready to install as soon as it warms up a
bit. I would sure appreciate any advice/help/photos on the exhaust system installation.
The muffler is completely different from the 618. I did send the
new 582 exhaust system parts to Skystar for modification. This required for fit
into the round cowl.
Merry Christmas to all.
Don Berridge
Morrison, Illinois
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| Subject: | Euro Foxes. WAS Stitts fabric |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Hello Chris,
Kitfox wrote:
> Are you the only Kitfox flyer in your country or do you have any others or
> even a club?
Good Lord, no! I am not sure but there must be something like ten Kitfoxes in
Norway. I am sure Torgeir knows that better than me.
I do agree with you that the service, kindness and swift handling of our
American friends are extraordinary. But I don't know about the prices. When I
purchase e.g. the flight simulator that I use, I buy directly from the US. The
CD is sent by courier (USP or FedEx, I forgot which one) and is delivered
shortly after. But I have to pay 24% VAT (Value Added Tax) on both the goods
and the shipment. As a result, I pay about twice what the CD costs. Of course,
more expensive goods carried by surface mail would make a difference.
It might be a good idea, Chris, if you consider representing the European
Kitfox owners interests in Europe. I look forward to see your web site open.
No, we don't have a Norwegian Kitfox club. The problem is: if we had, we would
get very little chance to meet. The country is long and sparely populated.
Furthermore, we don't have pubs to meet at and we keep mostly for ourselves.
It's already hard enough to get a microlight club going on. I know, I am the
secretary of the local club. We have about 35 members where only 8 have their
own plane. And the keep them in their backyards, a field they rent from a
farmer. Sometimes, they are farmers themselves.
When I was in Belgium, last November, I talked to a microlight pilot friend. He
told me that, after each flight, one has to go to the "buvette" and have a chat
with the other pilots. By doing so, one can exchange experience and learn. That
would be impossible in Norway. The though of having a club-house on the
premises of the airfield, where beer is served, is impossible in Norway.
Something to do with the Church and the socialist attitude to alcoholic
beverages. :-)
Anyway, being an old fart but a young lad in this business of aviation, I
welcome any measure that can bring us closer and will support any measure you
may take to get us, European Kitfoxer, closer.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Euro Foxes. WAS Stitts fabric |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kitfox" <Kitfox@chrisbates.co.uk>
Hi Michel,
I recall Norway is not the cheapest of countries from my Navy days.
Seems like a challenge to put something together for our European Kitfox
owners.
Historically we have a stand at the Popular Flying Associations rally in the
UK, perhaps some of you will visit us there.
I think I will keep an open mind on the web pages and see how we can
introduce a bulletin board.
I am intending to put some pages on for use by everyone detailing where we
get our spares from.
In the New Year perhaps I could get you to send me some pictures and a brief
overview of your Kitfox for inclusion.
If you could send me your address off the news group I would be pleased to
send you a copy of our newsletter.
Happy Kitfoxing!
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Euro Foxes. WAS Stitts fabric
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Hello Chris,
>
> Kitfox wrote:
> > Are you the only Kitfox flyer in your country or do you have any others
or
> > even a club?
>
> Good Lord, no! I am not sure but there must be something like ten Kitfoxes
in
> Norway. I am sure Torgeir knows that better than me.
> I do agree with you that the service, kindness and swift handling of our
> American friends are extraordinary. But I don't know about the prices.
When I
> purchase e.g. the flight simulator that I use, I buy directly from the US.
The
> CD is sent by courier (USP or FedEx, I forgot which one) and is delivered
> shortly after. But I have to pay 24% VAT (Value Added Tax) on both the
goods
> and the shipment. As a result, I pay about twice what the CD costs. Of
course,
> more expensive goods carried by surface mail would make a difference.
>
> It might be a good idea, Chris, if you consider representing the European
> Kitfox owners interests in Europe. I look forward to see your web site
open.
> No, we don't have a Norwegian Kitfox club. The problem is: if we had, we
would
> get very little chance to meet. The country is long and sparely populated.
> Furthermore, we don't have pubs to meet at and we keep mostly for
ourselves.
> It's already hard enough to get a microlight club going on. I know, I am
the
> secretary of the local club. We have about 35 members where only 8 have
their
> own plane. And the keep them in their backyards, a field they rent from a
> farmer. Sometimes, they are farmers themselves.
>
> When I was in Belgium, last November, I talked to a microlight pilot
friend. He
> told me that, after each flight, one has to go to the "buvette" and have a
chat
> with the other pilots. By doing so, one can exchange experience and learn.
That
> would be impossible in Norway. The though of having a club-house on the
> premises of the airfield, where beer is served, is impossible in Norway.
> Something to do with the Church and the socialist attitude to alcoholic
> beverages. :-)
>
> Anyway, being an old fart but a young lad in this business of aviation, I
> welcome any measure that can bring us closer and will support any measure
you
> may take to get us, European Kitfoxer, closer.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Regulator-Rectifire |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
Has anyone put a Key West Regulator on a 912?
David Cecil
KF950
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| Subject: | Re: European Kitfoxes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
Hi Chris,
Just to encourage you to keep alive the idea of European Kitfoxers getting
together. I am helping build a Mk 5 in Austria and we plan to fly it to the
PFA rally when finished. Maybe not 2004 but 2005 is definitely on.
I am sure a European Kitfox gathering in France or Germany would attract
lots of us.
Kerry
>
>Hi Michel,
>I recall Norway is not the cheapest of countries from my Navy days.
>Seems like a challenge to put something together for our European Kitfox
>owners.
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| Subject: | Finished at last |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave & Wendy Grosvenor" <dwg@iafrica.com>
Well, after what was starting to seem like a never ending story, my Bushbaby has
been moved out to the airfield and signed off for test flying. Taxi testing
has gone well so far, and the engine is running well. Should be test flying
it in the next few days, weather and Christmas permitting.
Two questions on rpm. I am running a 912S with a 3 blade tapered tip 72" Warp
Drive prop. What static rpm should I be aiming at to get full power on take-off
(the Bushbaby is similar to a Kitfox IV)? I was thinking 5000 to 5100 rpm.
Also, how low should I try to get it to idle if I pull the throttle right back
to prevent a long float on landing?
I have updated my website with pics of the completed aircraft and the move to the
airfield. Look under "Painting & Assembly" and "Latest" sections if you are
interested.
http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/dwg/index.htm
Cheers
Dave Grosvenor
Durban, South Africa
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| Subject: | Re: European Kitfoxes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kurt A. Schumacher" <Kurt.Schumacher@schumi.ch>
European Kitfox gathering: With Switzerland having probably the highest Kitfox
density in Europe, I propose the EAS Fly-In 2004
again - see http://www.experimental.ch/fly-in/ - afaik there will be as well an Europa type meeting.
Where to buy Stits products in Europe? Well, for small amounts the next aircraft
repair shop can help out. For reasonable amounts I
suggest these addresses (source: http://www.polyfiber.com/where/) - most Swiss builders are buying from Airtronic Aviation in
Belgium. They buy in large volumes and carry a stock for fast delivery - and have
the experience what's required to ship dangerous
goods within Europe.
AIRCRAFT COVERINGS LIMITED
Henstridge Airfield
Henstridge Somerset
England BA80TF
441-963-363636
www.aircraftcoverings.co.uk
AIRTRONIC AVIATION
Charleroi Int'l. Airport
6200 Charleroi
Belgium
32-713-44996
airtronic@skynet.be
-Kurt.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Skyring
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: European Kitfoxes
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring"
--> <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
Hi Chris,
Just to encourage you to keep alive the idea of European Kitfoxers getting together.
I am helping build a Mk 5 in Austria and we
plan to fly it to the PFA rally when finished. Maybe not 2004 but 2005 is definitely
on.
I am sure a European Kitfox gathering in France or Germany would attract lots of
us.
Kerry
>
>Hi Michel,
>I recall Norway is not the cheapest of countries from my Navy days.
>Seems like a challenge to put something together for our European
>Kitfox owners.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Kitfox wrote:
> In the New Year perhaps I could get you to send me some pictures and a brief
> overview of your Kitfox for inclusion.
That would be very nice, Chris. As Kerry says, keep on working for getting us
closer and yes, if there is a Kitfox fly-in, in say, two years, somewhere like
France or Belgium, I'll definitivey come. I say, two years, because I don't
want to do it with my 220 hours 582, but by that time, I expect I'll have a 912
or a Jabiru.
> If you could send me your address off the news group I would be pleased to
> send you a copy of our newsletter.
I will do that, Chris. Thank you.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: European Kitfoxes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
"Kurt A. Schumacher" wrote:
> European Kitfox gathering: With Switzerland having probably the highest Kitfox
density in Europe, I propose the EAS Fly-In 2004
> again - see http://www.experimental.ch/fly-in/ - afaik there will be as well an Europa type meeting.
Argh! Kurt, an "experimental" meeting, I can't come, I fly "microlight!" The
funny thing is that my Kitfox was built and flew a few years as an
experimental. It was then converted to a "microlight" by a simple insertion and
delete in two registers, the plane is still the same. Yet, since that day, one
has to wear a helmet in Norway and ... we can't go to Switzerland! Go and
understand that! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: European Kitfoxes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kitfox" <Kitfox@chrisbates.co.uk>
Thanks Kurt, I'll bear them in mind
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kurt A. Schumacher" <Kurt.Schumacher@schumi.ch>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: European Kitfoxes
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kurt A. Schumacher"
<Kurt.Schumacher@schumi.ch>
>
> European Kitfox gathering: With Switzerland having probably the highest
Kitfox density in Europe, I propose the EAS Fly-In 2004
> again - see http://www.experimental.ch/fly-in/ - afaik there will be as
well an Europa type meeting.
>
> Where to buy Stits products in Europe? Well, for small amounts the next
aircraft repair shop can help out. For reasonable amounts I
> suggest these addresses (source: http://www.polyfiber.com/where/) - most
Swiss builders are buying from Airtronic Aviation in
> Belgium. They buy in large volumes and carry a stock for fast delivery -
and have the experience what's required to ship dangerous
> goods within Europe.
>
> AIRCRAFT COVERINGS LIMITED
> Henstridge Airfield
> Henstridge Somerset
> England BA80TF
> 441-963-363636
> www.aircraftcoverings.co.uk
>
> AIRTRONIC AVIATION
> Charleroi Int'l. Airport
> 6200 Charleroi
> Belgium
> 32-713-44996
> airtronic@skynet.be
>
>
> -Kurt.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Skyring
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: European Kitfoxes
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring"
> --> <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi Chris,
> Just to encourage you to keep alive the idea of European Kitfoxers getting
together. I am helping build a Mk 5 in Austria and we
> plan to fly it to the PFA rally when finished. Maybe not 2004 but 2005 is
definitely on.
>
> I am sure a European Kitfox gathering in France or Germany would attract
lots of us.
>
> Kerry
>
>
> >
> >Hi Michel,
> >I recall Norway is not the cheapest of countries from my Navy days.
> >Seems like a challenge to put something together for our European
> >Kitfox owners.
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
FWIW - I 've flown the Avid wheel penetration skis for about 300 hours in
various snow conditions. A wheel penetration ski is not as good in the snow
as a straight ski as you have more drag and less "floatation area". But
there is a very easy way to remedy that. When you put the plastic bottoms
on your skis and you make the holes for the wheels, make another piece of
plastic the exact same size as the opening so it fits in there nice and
snug. Then flush rivet an oversize (by about 2inches all around) piece of
aluminum to the top of it. Carry these two little pieces then in your
baggage compartment along with a can of compressed air/tire inflator. When
you find yourself in really deep snow and having trouble taking off, just
let the air out of the tires, slide the plates you made between the tire and
the ski bottom from the top side so they can go anywhere, and then fill the
tires with enough air to hold the plate in position. Obviously you will
need to land in snow back at your destination and then reverse the process
so you can taxi on pavement back to your hangar. This works like a charm
and destroys all myths the naysayers have about wheel penetration skis.
Unfortunately I can't take credit for this idea. Bush pilots used this idea
for years before I heard of it.
I personally think the Avid designed wheel penetration ski works very well,
and if I was to copy one it would be done just like theirs. Incidentally,
there is no center groove on the bottom, and I have never felt the airplane
to skid around because it didn't have one. But, I do think a slight V shape
in the bottom of the ski would stabilize it more, but it would be best if
the whole ski had that shape, not just a small ridge in the bottom. But
this would complicate what is otherwise a very simple ski. And why mess
with success?
If I can find my ski installation and assembly info I will post it on
sportflight photo section. I think it would help any of you wanting to
build your own.
Paul Seehafer
Central Wisconsin
Model IV-1200 912UL amphib
Subject: Kitfox-List: Wheel Skis
> Bob Unternaehrer wrote:
> > Would still liketo try skis...What is the advantages and
> disadvantagesof wheel
> > penetration skis???
>
> Bob,
>
> I just finished fabricating myself a set of wheel-thru skis for my
> Series V.
>
> Michel is partially correct in his assumptions. I too have the wide
> Tundra tires so I could not "buy" a ready made set.
> Mine are fabbed using 1/2" square aluminum tubing and are based on the
> design of the gentleman from Wisconsin who does some work on the Sonex.
> He has some nice pictures and I can e-mail you pics of mine if you want.
>
> The ski part is made from 3/8" HDP (same thing we use for dog sled
> runners up here) and you can find this about anywhere "Down South".
> My skis weigh about 3 lbs each including the bungees and safety rigging.
> About a gallon of fuel worth.
> ( Most of the weight is the HDP)
> They are just slightly heavier than the wheel pants that I removed this
> last summer and I made them long and wide enough so that they float on
> deep snow.
> It is critical that you do not allow too much of the wheel to protrude
> through the ski. I have just under two inches of tire showing.
> Otherwise, the tires act as a brake in the snow. I used a roller blade
> wheel to support the rear of the skis. It's nice to have the ability to
> use "reverse" thrust to slow down on the hard packed snow. I don't use
> any braking on snow/ice anyway but rollout can be long without the
> "reverse" especially when landing on frozen, windblown lakes. (Don't
> forget to put in some kind of a center runner or you will put yourself
> in a hellofa ground loop)
> Have fun on your skis! I think they look pretty cool!
> Scott McClintock
> Nome, Alaska
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: comments on skis |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@Tznet.com>
Hi BOB:
Forgot to mention, I've flown my Avid wheel skis (just for grins) in mid
July here in wisconsin. Landed once at a airport I never go into to get
some fuel on a saturday excursion. The line boy was totally believing I
came from the artic circle in my "little plane". So the answer to your
question about operating them on hard non snow covered surfaces is a
resounding "YES - they work great!". Snow, grass, or pavement. No problem.
Paul Seehafer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: comments on skis
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
<shilocom@c-magic.com>
>
> I live in MO. where the snow,,,even if we goet some,,, doesn't stay around
to long at a time... Would still liketo try skis...What is the advantages
and disadvantagesof wheel penetration skis??? Can you still taxi and land
the airplane on grass or pavement?? I have the Grove spring gear and
Cleveland 1 1/2 inch axles.
>
> Blue Skies
> Bob Unternaehrer
> shilocom@c-magic.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: European Kitfoxes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kurt A. Schumacher" <Kurt.Schumacher@schumi.ch>
Michael,
Swiss authorities delayed the Ecolicht class (Swiss Microlight) for up to 12 month
- so schedule Switzerland for (or not before)
2005 - with or without a helmet - then.
Sorry about ... EAS is not limited to Experimental, tough.
What about the RSA (France) meeting in 2004?
-Kurt.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel Verheughe
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: European Kitfoxes
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
"Kurt A. Schumacher" wrote:
> European Kitfox gathering: With Switzerland having probably the
> highest Kitfox density in Europe, I propose the EAS Fly-In 2004 again
> - see http://www.experimental.ch/fly-in/ - afaik there will be as well
> an Europa type meeting.
Argh! Kurt, an "experimental" meeting, I can't come, I fly "microlight!" The funny
thing is that my Kitfox was built and flew a few
years as an experimental. It was then converted to a "microlight" by a simple insertion
and delete in two registers, the plane is
still the same. Yet, since that day, one has to wear a helmet in Norway and ...
we can't go to Switzerland! Go and understand that!
:-)
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: European Kitfoxes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kitfox" <Kitfox@chrisbates.co.uk>
Hi Kerry,
The more I hear from Kitfox owners in Europe the more enthusiastic I am
becoming.
Seems you would be a prime candidate to tell us how your project is
progressing for the newsletter if you'd like to do that.
There used to be an Avid Fly-in down in mid France so I'll make some
enquiries and see if they're interested in us joining in. One of our
favourite places to fly to is Abbeville which is another alternative.
In the UK we have exactly 100 Kitfoxes on the register although I understand
there were over 140 kits imported, over 65% of the owners are in the owners
club. Hopefully we will be able to increase that.
If anyone out there has a Fox in europe, either built, in moth balls or
flying I'd be pleased to have their contact details and include them in what
we do and what's planned. If any of you are venturing over to the UK then
please drop me a line, we'd be pleased to see you.
Look forwards to progressing this in the future.
Chris Bates
Kitfox Owners Club - UK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: European Kitfoxes
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring"
<kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi Chris,
> Just to encourage you to keep alive the idea of European Kitfoxers getting
> together. I am helping build a Mk 5 in Austria and we plan to fly it to
the
> PFA rally when finished. Maybe not 2004 but 2005 is definitely on.
>
> I am sure a European Kitfox gathering in France or Germany would attract
> lots of us.
>
> Kerry
>
>
> >
> >Hi Michel,
> >I recall Norway is not the cheapest of countries from my Navy days.
> >Seems like a challenge to put something together for our European Kitfox
> >owners.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: European Kitfoxes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kitfox" <Kitfox@chrisbates.co.uk>
Kurt,
Just picked up on what you wrote re the EAS Fly-in 2004 and had a quick look
at the web-site, looks like a good fly-in worth attending.
Like Michel I have converted my Kitfox from Group A to microlight so until
2005 I cannot fly there in my own Kitfox although I may be able to fly in
another a/c. Do you know if they accept Permit a/c from the UK?
What is/where is/when is the RSA (France) meeting in 2004
Michel, fortunately in the UK we do not have to wear a helmet in a fixed
wing microlight although I always flew with one in the military, simply
wearing a headset was strange at first!
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kurt A. Schumacher" <Kurt.Schumacher@schumi.ch>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: European Kitfoxes
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kurt A. Schumacher"
<Kurt.Schumacher@schumi.ch>
>
> Michael,
>
> Swiss authorities delayed the Ecolicht class (Swiss Microlight) for up to
12 month - so schedule Switzerland for (or not before)
> 2005 - with or without a helmet - then.
>
> Sorry about ... EAS is not limited to Experimental, tough.
>
> What about the RSA (France) meeting in 2004?
>
> -Kurt.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: European Kitfoxes
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> "Kurt A. Schumacher" wrote:
> > European Kitfox gathering: With Switzerland having probably the
> > highest Kitfox density in Europe, I propose the EAS Fly-In 2004 again
> > - see http://www.experimental.ch/fly-in/ - afaik there will be as well
> > an Europa type meeting.
>
> Argh! Kurt, an "experimental" meeting, I can't come, I fly "microlight!"
The funny thing is that my Kitfox was built and flew a few
> years as an experimental. It was then converted to a "microlight" by a
simple insertion and delete in two registers, the plane is
> still the same. Yet, since that day, one has to wear a helmet in Norway
and ... we can't go to Switzerland! Go and understand that!
> :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: European Kitfoxes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kurt A. Schumacher" <Kurt.Schumacher@schumi.ch>
Chris,
Positive - a permit a/c are welcome here since I know about - the old problem flying
from the U.K. to Switzerland was the French
restriction!
We have a bunch of visitors from the U.K. every year - Europa, Falco, Foxes, Jodels,
Vans RV with G- registrations are guests, this
year we had David Beale with his beautiful Tipsy Belfair G-APIE here!
Some impressions:
http://www.experimental.ch/fly-in/reviews.htm
e.g.
Mollis EAS Fly-In 2003:
http://www.experimental.ch/fly-in/2003/friday_august_15th.htm
http://www.experimental.ch/fly-in/2003/saturday_august_16th.htm
http://www.experimental.ch/fly-in/2003/sunday_august_17th.htm
Grenchen EAS Fly-In 2001:
http://www.experimental.ch/fly-in/2001/friday-lszg20011.htm
http://www.experimental.ch/fly-in/2001/saturday-lszg2001.htm
http://www.experimental.ch/fly-in/2001/sunday-lszg2001.htm
It's always a pleasure to welcome a lot of visitors from abroad with the annual
EAS Fly-In!
The French RSA - 57me Rassemblement national les 23, 24 et 25 juillet 2004 - accoding to http://www.rsanordest.fr.st/ - highly
probably at Chambley-Bussires (PVT-5424), F
[14.5 nm W (280) Metz Nancy Lorraine, LFJL]
-Kurt.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfox
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: European Kitfoxes
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kitfox" <Kitfox@chrisbates.co.uk>
Kurt,
Just picked up on what you wrote re the EAS Fly-in 2004 and had a quick look at
the web-site, looks like a good fly-in worth
attending. Like Michel I have converted my Kitfox from Group A to microlight so
until 2005 I cannot fly there in my own Kitfox
although I may be able to fly in another a/c. Do you know if they accept Permit
a/c from the UK? What is/where is/when is the RSA
(France) meeting in 2004
Michel, fortunately in the UK we do not have to wear a helmet in a fixed wing
microlight although I always flew with one in the
military, simply wearing a headset was strange at first!
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kurt A. Schumacher" <Kurt.Schumacher@schumi.ch>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: European Kitfoxes
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kurt A. Schumacher"
<Kurt.Schumacher@schumi.ch>
>
> Michael,
>
> Swiss authorities delayed the Ecolicht class (Swiss Microlight) for up
> to
12 month - so schedule Switzerland for (or not before)
> 2005 - with or without a helmet - then.
>
> Sorry about ... EAS is not limited to Experimental, tough.
>
> What about the RSA (France) meeting in 2004?
>
> -Kurt.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel Verheughe
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: European Kitfoxes
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> "Kurt A. Schumacher" wrote:
> > European Kitfox gathering: With Switzerland having probably the
> > highest Kitfox density in Europe, I propose the EAS Fly-In 2004
> > again
> > - see http://www.experimental.ch/fly-in/ - afaik there will be as well
> > an Europa type meeting.
>
> Argh! Kurt, an "experimental" meeting, I can't come, I fly
> "microlight!"
The funny thing is that my Kitfox was built and flew a few
> years as an experimental. It was then converted to a "microlight" by a
simple insertion and delete in two registers, the plane is
> still the same. Yet, since that day, one has to wear a helmet in
> Norway
and ... we can't go to Switzerland! Go and understand that!
> :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Finished at last |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Dave, I can't remember the static RPM questions answer, but will follow the
thread and see if someone else can answer that part. The question I want to
address is the idle speed. Just keep in mind that the 912 engine won't
windmill if stopped so a restart will require the starter. I have a friend
that can shut his engine down with the throttle, but he has to keep it
running during final. I have mine set to about 1600 RPM or so as I don't
want to deal with a restart in the event I need a little power to make the
field.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Wendy Grosvenor" <dwg@iafrica.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Finished at last
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave & Wendy Grosvenor"
<dwg@iafrica.com>
>
> Well, after what was starting to seem like a never ending story, my
Bushbaby has been moved out to the airfield and signed off for test flying.
Taxi testing has gone well so far, and the engine is running well. Should
be test flying it in the next few days, weather and Christmas permitting.
>
> Two questions on rpm. I am running a 912S with a 3 blade tapered tip 72"
Warp Drive prop. What static rpm should I be aiming at to get full power on
take-off (the Bushbaby is similar to a Kitfox IV)? I was thinking 5000 to
5100 rpm.
>
> Also, how low should I try to get it to idle if I pull the throttle right
back to prevent a long float on landing?
>
> I have updated my website with pics of the completed aircraft and the move
to the airfield. Look under "Painting & Assembly" and "Latest" sections if
you are interested.
> http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/dwg/index.htm
>
> Cheers
> Dave Grosvenor
> Durban, South Africa
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 618 to 582 help |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
Don, I have a few pictures I took when I de-carboned my 582 last spring. I
would be glad to e-mail them to you in hopes it will make your job less of a
problem.
James E. Burke
(N94JE)
-------Original Message-------
From: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 618 to 582 help
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Don Berridge <wing3120@yahoo.com>
For those of you who have or are installing a Rotax 618, I thought I would
offer some info on my experiences with this engine. Because of the high
cost of any overhaul, I've just purchased a 582 for a replacement but the
decission was tough.
I acquired my K4-1200 with just over 100 hours on and have just hit the
magic 300 hour mark. The plane is nine years old now. During that time I
have been very impressed with the performance of the 618 and have had
virtually no problems with it. I did clean the RAVE valves every 40-50
hours and this is a must to keep them free from sticking. Also I had a
muffler crack and loose baffles when I removed the engine at 300 hrs.
Something to keep an eye on, probably for any 2 stroke engine. And one
other thing. The mag end starter needed new bearings, done at a local
electric motor shop. I noticed slow cranking/hard starting and excessive
brush wear. With the rebuild complete the engine was very easy to start
using prime only, on the coldest of days.
While I was trying to make up my mine whether to overhaul or not, LEAF did
tear down the 618 engine to see what it would be worth should I want to
trade. The engine was in excellent condition, no rust or wear on the crank
bearings and rings a bit sticky but still doing the job. There was very
little carbon buildup anywhere. The oil injection was working well
obviously as this was the first time the engine had been apart. Oil used
was Pennzoil Outboard TC-W3.
I now have the new 582 in my garage, ready to install as soon as it warms up
a bit. I would sure appreciate any advice/help/photos on the exhaust system
installation. The muffler is completely different from the 618. I did send
the new 582 exhaust system parts to Skystar for modification. This required
for fit into the round cowl.
Merry Christmas to all.
Don Berridge
Morrison, Illinois
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| Subject: | European Kitfoxes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Sadly, this thread has recalled to memory an experience I had with a list member
over the last year or so.
A European Kitfox owner asked the list for a source of the plastic fairings SS
supplies for the lift struts which he wanted to use for his gear legs. I had
some that I was tired of storing and agreed to send them to him for only the
cost of the shipping. They were sent FedEx air express, and using my wife's discount
the cost was under $25
Immediately after the shipment date (October 2002) and sending a direct e-mail
to confirm the shipping date and the cost with my address, this person stopped
his correspondence with the list - until August of this year. When he suddenly
reappeared, I sent him a personal note reminding him of his obligation to me,
and my lack of payment was somehow blamed on the Postal system or something
like that and was promised a quick remedy to the non payment.
I have still received no payment, nor have I received any original e-mail from
this individual detailing a payment or any inquiry as to my receiving the payment.
I can only assume that I am being deliberately Stiffed. Or for you that
might not be familiar with the idiom, I expect that I am being deliberately denied
reimbursement for the shipping expenses.
I am seriously considering releasing his name to the list or maybe copies of all
the related e-mails if I don't hear from him promptly since I know of no other
way to motivate him to honor his agreement with me.
Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Annual Aircraft Registration |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
Jay and Jeff,
Wow, you guys really get hosed. Move to Virginia, it is only $5.00.
Maybe our democratic Governor Warner will try something like that. He's
looking for ways to fix the deficit. You should talk with AOPA.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Jay Fabian wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian" <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
>
>Well in Taxachussetts it went from $75.00 to $100.00. guess that was not
>that bad after all.
>Jay
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Annual Aircraft Registration
>
>
>
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
>>
>>I love the State of Ohio. Every year since I can remember it costs $6.00
>>
>>
>to
>
>
>>register my Kitfox with the state. This year I got my registration
>>application and it costs $100.00. I can see an increase, but $100.00? Give
>>me a break. I thought the AOPA has people that watch legislation. The
>>
>>
>125th
>
>
>>Ohio General Assembly passed this jewel. Jeff Puls
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stitts fabric |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
Chris,
If you make it to Oshkosh in 2004 be sure to look me up. I park my
Series 6 in the Experimental area where the Kitfox's tie down.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Kitfox wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kitfox" <Kitfox@chrisbates.co.uk>
>
>One thing I will say is the Kitfox guys in the US are a cracking bunch of
>guys, without them flying a Kitfox in the UK would be too expensive.
>I've now been given the Kitfox Owners Club UK to run so hopefully we'll be
>able to form some stronger ties with some of you Kitfox flyers in other
>parts of the world, maybe some of us can even get over to meet some of you!
>In the not too distant future I'm hoping to up load a Uk web site, I'll
>email the url to the newsgroup once it's up and running.
>Personally I'm going to try to go to Oshkosh this year and, in the process,
>meet some of the guys who have helped me and buy them a beer.
>Are you the only Kitfox flyer in your country or do you have any others or
>even a club?
>Happy landings
>Chris
>
>
>
>
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