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1. 05:28 AM - Winter Flying Thought.... (Aerobatics@aol.com)
2. 05:33 AM - Re: Fuel Sight Tubes (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
3. 06:08 AM - Re: Fuel Sight Tubes (Clifford Begnaud)
4. 08:15 AM - spar wall thickness (John)
5. 10:25 AM - Re: spar wall thickness (JMCBEAN)
6. 10:44 AM - Spar thickness (Les James)
7. 11:51 AM - Re: spar wall thickness (Dcecil3@aol.com)
8. 12:11 PM - Re: Fuel Sight Tubes (Kitfox)
9. 12:45 PM - Re: spar wall thickness (JMCBEAN)
10. 02:37 PM - Re: spar wall thickness (John)
11. 04:10 PM - Re: spar wall thickness (Bob Unternaehrer)
12. 04:46 PM - Re: spar wall thickness (Bob Unternaehrer)
13. 04:46 PM - Re: spar wall thickness (Bob Unternaehrer)
14. 04:46 PM - Re: spar wall thickness (Bob Unternaehrer)
15. 04:46 PM - Re: spar wall thickness (Bob Unternaehrer)
16. 07:48 PM - Re: Fuel Sight Tubes (roger augenstein)
17. 08:05 PM - Double post (Bob Unternaehrer)
18. 08:18 PM - Re: Double post (Matt Dralle)
19. 08:43 PM - Re: Double post (Wwillyard@aol.com)
20. 08:57 PM - Re: Double post (Ron Carroll)
21. 08:59 PM - Re: Double post (Ron Carroll)
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| Subject: | Winter Flying Thought.... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com
A few years ago I had a throttle stick and solved it with "Cable Free"
Just last week a few friends flew into my strip and on had a dead stick on a
trike due to his throttle sticking due to moisture inside the cable then
freezing.
This seems to work much better than WD 40....
Called "Cable Free" by Champions Choice 1-800- 322-4491
It was designed for bikes and Ski-doo.... hmmmm perfect!
Comes with a tool that purges the entire cable, removes moisture and lubes.
Of course, must be above freezing temp to purge the moisture...
Fly Safe!
Dave Patrick
KF 2 582 Blue Head
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Sight Tubes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 12/26/03 11:20:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kitfox@itsys3.com writes:
>
> Has anyone found a more durable material to use for the sight
> guage tubes?
>
> Bill Hammond
> N913KF - Series 6
> Parker, CO
>
I didn't use the sight gauges supplied by SS but wonder if using two 90
degree fittings (top and bottom) and clear Polyurethane might work. Could be
replaced at each annual for pennies.
Happy New Year
Don Smythe
Don Smythe
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Sight Tubes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Bill,
I think I have tygothane on mine. Got it from Lockwood. Of course it won't
make nice sharp 90 degree corners like the stuff that came with your kit,
but it gets the job done and will stand up to the fuel.
Cliff
>
> Has anyone found a more durable material to use for the sight
> guage tubes?
>
> Bill Hammond
> N913KF - Series 6
> Parker, CO
>
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| Subject: | spar wall thickness |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John" <kitfoxjh@floodcity.net>
Can someone with a Series-5,6, or 7 tell me what wall thickness the
spars are. Were there different one's or were they all the same? I was
told once, they were all the same regardless of gross weight. Thanks,
John H.....
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| Subject: | spar wall thickness |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
John,
There are 2 spar wall thickness. .058 and .065
The .058 is limited to 1400 gross weight. That was most common on early
Series 5
The .065 is for the 1550 gross weight
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John
Subject: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John" <kitfoxjh@floodcity.net>
Can someone with a Series-5,6, or 7 tell me what wall thickness the
spars are. Were there different one's or were they all the same? I was
told once, they were all the same regardless of gross weight. Thanks,
John H.....
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Les James" <wharf.farm@ukonline.co.uk>
John,
The wall thickness on 5,6&7 spars is .065"
Les James
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| Subject: | Re: spar wall thickness |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
Model 3 is 2 1/2" .058 wall per Dave at SkyStar
D. Cecil
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Sight Tubes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kitfox" <Kitfox@chrisbates.co.uk>
Bill,
I've got clear tygon on mine, 2 x 13 gallon tanks, each fitted with two
(shortened) AN842 elbows, makes for good site tubes.
Haven't discoloured yet 18 months on.
Chris
UK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel Sight Tubes
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
<shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
> Bill,
> I think I have tygothane on mine. Got it from Lockwood. Of course it won't
> make nice sharp 90 degree corners like the stuff that came with your kit,
> but it gets the job done and will stand up to the fuel.
> Cliff
>
> >
> > Has anyone found a more durable material to use for the sight
> > guage tubes?
> >
> > Bill Hammond
> > N913KF - Series 6
> > Parker, CO
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | spar wall thickness |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Maybe I should clarify.....
Model III's, Model IV's and early Series 5 aircraft used the .058 wall
spars. I think some of the early III's may have been .049
Originally the Series 5 aircraft was a 1400# gross weight aircraft. When SS
increased the gross on the Series 5 aircraft, approx June of 95, they went
to the .065 wall spar thickness. Therefore all Series 6 and 7 aircraft
would have .065 wall spars.
Today all the wing spars are .065.. including the Classic IV. Before you
ask... NO, one cannot increase the gross of the Classic IV with the larger
spars. There are significant other fuselage changes that were done to the
early 5 from the IV that aided in the increase not to mention the dia of the
lift struts.
Hope this helps.. and makes sense.
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dcecil3@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
Model 3 is 2 1/2" .058 wall per Dave at SkyStar
D. Cecil
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| Subject: | spar wall thickness |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John" <kitfoxjh@floodcity.net>
OK, Thanks to all who responded. Now I'll have to mic them and see what
I have.......... John H...
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| Subject: | Re: spar wall thickness |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
Jim,, I'm sure glad to hear about the wall thickness of the spars. When I
ask the question before your comment was .065 wall thickness. I was
upgrading my IV-1050 and could not get .065 to slip over the 7/8 tubing on
each end so I used .058. We took equal lengths of the .058 and weighted
them against a 99 model IV and the ..058 was slightly heavier, so we used
it. Thanks ,, Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
>
> Maybe I should clarify.....
>
> Model III's, Model IV's and early Series 5 aircraft used the .058 wall
> spars. I think some of the early III's may have been .049
>
> Originally the Series 5 aircraft was a 1400# gross weight aircraft. When
SS
> increased the gross on the Series 5 aircraft, approx June of 95, they went
> to the .065 wall spar thickness. Therefore all Series 6 and 7 aircraft
> would have .065 wall spars.
>
> Today all the wing spars are .065.. including the Classic IV. Before you
> ask... NO, one cannot increase the gross of the Classic IV with the
larger
> spars. There are significant other fuselage changes that were done to the
> early 5 from the IV that aided in the increase not to mention the dia of
the
> lift struts.
>
> Hope this helps.. and makes sense.
>
>
> Blue Skies!!
> John & Debra McBean
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Dcecil3@aol.com
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
>
> Model 3 is 2 1/2" .058 wall per Dave at SkyStar
> D. Cecil
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: spar wall thickness |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
Jim,, I'm sure glad to hear about the wall thickness of the spars. When I
ask the question before your comment was .065 wall thickness. I was
upgrading my IV-1050 and could not get .065 to slip over the 7/8 tubing on
each end so I used .058. We took equal lengths of the .058 and weighted
them against a 99 model IV and the ..058 was slightly heavier, so we used
it. Thanks ,, Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
>
> Maybe I should clarify.....
>
> Model III's, Model IV's and early Series 5 aircraft used the .058 wall
> spars. I think some of the early III's may have been .049
>
> Originally the Series 5 aircraft was a 1400# gross weight aircraft. When
SS
> increased the gross on the Series 5 aircraft, approx June of 95, they went
> to the .065 wall spar thickness. Therefore all Series 6 and 7 aircraft
> would have .065 wall spars.
>
> Today all the wing spars are .065.. including the Classic IV. Before you
> ask... NO, one cannot increase the gross of the Classic IV with the
larger
> spars. There are significant other fuselage changes that were done to the
> early 5 from the IV that aided in the increase not to mention the dia of
the
> lift struts.
>
> Hope this helps.. and makes sense.
>
>
> Blue Skies!!
> John & Debra McBean
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Dcecil3@aol.com
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
>
> Model 3 is 2 1/2" .058 wall per Dave at SkyStar
> D. Cecil
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: spar wall thickness |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
Jim,, I'm sure glad to hear about the wall thickness of the spars. When I
ask the question before your comment was .065 wall thickness. I was
upgrading my IV-1050 and could not get .065 to slip over the 7/8 tubing on
each end so I used .058. We took equal lengths of the .058 and weighted
them against a 99 model IV and the ..058 was slightly heavier, so we used
it. Thanks ,, Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
>
> Maybe I should clarify.....
>
> Model III's, Model IV's and early Series 5 aircraft used the .058 wall
> spars. I think some of the early III's may have been .049
>
> Originally the Series 5 aircraft was a 1400# gross weight aircraft. When
SS
> increased the gross on the Series 5 aircraft, approx June of 95, they went
> to the .065 wall spar thickness. Therefore all Series 6 and 7 aircraft
> would have .065 wall spars.
>
> Today all the wing spars are .065.. including the Classic IV. Before you
> ask... NO, one cannot increase the gross of the Classic IV with the
larger
> spars. There are significant other fuselage changes that were done to the
> early 5 from the IV that aided in the increase not to mention the dia of
the
> lift struts.
>
> Hope this helps.. and makes sense.
>
>
> Blue Skies!!
> John & Debra McBean
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Dcecil3@aol.com
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
>
> Model 3 is 2 1/2" .058 wall per Dave at SkyStar
> D. Cecil
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: spar wall thickness |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
Jim,, I'm sure glad to hear about the wall thickness of the spars. When I
ask the question before your comment was .065 wall thickness. I was
upgrading my IV-1050 and could not get .065 to slip over the 7/8 tubing on
each end so I used .058. We took equal lengths of the .058 and weighted
them against a 99 model IV and the ..058 was slightly heavier, so we used
it. Thanks ,, Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
>
> Maybe I should clarify.....
>
> Model III's, Model IV's and early Series 5 aircraft used the .058 wall
> spars. I think some of the early III's may have been .049
>
> Originally the Series 5 aircraft was a 1400# gross weight aircraft. When
SS
> increased the gross on the Series 5 aircraft, approx June of 95, they went
> to the .065 wall spar thickness. Therefore all Series 6 and 7 aircraft
> would have .065 wall spars.
>
> Today all the wing spars are .065.. including the Classic IV. Before you
> ask... NO, one cannot increase the gross of the Classic IV with the
larger
> spars. There are significant other fuselage changes that were done to the
> early 5 from the IV that aided in the increase not to mention the dia of
the
> lift struts.
>
> Hope this helps.. and makes sense.
>
>
> Blue Skies!!
> John & Debra McBean
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Dcecil3@aol.com
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
>
> Model 3 is 2 1/2" .058 wall per Dave at SkyStar
> D. Cecil
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: spar wall thickness |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
Jim,, I'm sure glad to hear about the wall thickness of the spars. When I
ask the question before your comment was .065 wall thickness. I was
upgrading my IV-1050 and could not get .065 to slip over the 7/8 tubing on
each end so I used .058. We took equal lengths of the .058 and weighted
them against a 99 model IV and the ..058 was slightly heavier, so we used
it. Thanks ,, Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
>
> Maybe I should clarify.....
>
> Model III's, Model IV's and early Series 5 aircraft used the .058 wall
> spars. I think some of the early III's may have been .049
>
> Originally the Series 5 aircraft was a 1400# gross weight aircraft. When
SS
> increased the gross on the Series 5 aircraft, approx June of 95, they went
> to the .065 wall spar thickness. Therefore all Series 6 and 7 aircraft
> would have .065 wall spars.
>
> Today all the wing spars are .065.. including the Classic IV. Before you
> ask... NO, one cannot increase the gross of the Classic IV with the
larger
> spars. There are significant other fuselage changes that were done to the
> early 5 from the IV that aided in the increase not to mention the dia of
the
> lift struts.
>
> Hope this helps.. and makes sense.
>
>
> Blue Skies!!
> John & Debra McBean
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Dcecil3@aol.com
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
>
> Model 3 is 2 1/2" .058 wall per Dave at SkyStar
> D. Cecil
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Sight Tubes |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "roger augenstein" <raugenstein@fuse.net>
Bill,
I replacaed the parker fittings and ridgid tubing over two years ago after
reading posts stating your problem. I used barbed brass fittings in the
tank openings attached to tygo tubing-the yellow tinted tubing from SS for
the vent tube to one wing. In 2 years the tubing shrunk and was not as
flexible so I replaced it this year with clear polyvinyl. To make the
rectangular shape I inserted a 1/8" copper tube and shaped it to the proper
right angles to make the wing connections and to give a straight sight area.
Hope this helps.
Roger Augenstein KY Series 5 EJ22
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Hammond" <kitfox@itsys3.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel Sight Tubes
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Bill Hammond <kitfox@itsys3.com>
>
> I just replaced one of my fuel tank sight tubes due to a leak
> that developed on the inside of the bent area. I was using the
> plastic tubing included in the original construction kit for the
> tube.
>
> When I removed the leaking tube, I was surprised to see how
> brittle the tubing had become due to its exposure to gasoline. I
> have had fuel in the tanks for about two months (since the first
> engine runup). I was able to bend and break the tube with only
> minor pressure.
>
> Has anyone found a more durable material to use for the sight
> guage tubes?
>
> Bill Hammond
> N913KF - Series 6
> Parker, CO
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
Is everybody getting double post or Am I signed up TWICE. BOB U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
<shilocom@c-magic.com>
>
> Jim,, I'm sure glad to hear about the wall thickness of the spars. When
I
> ask the question before your comment was .065 wall thickness. I was
> upgrading my IV-1050 and could not get .065 to slip over the 7/8 tubing on
> each end so I used .058. We took equal lengths of the .058 and weighted
> them against a 99 model IV and the ..058 was slightly heavier, so we used
> it. Thanks ,, Bob U.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
> >
> > Maybe I should clarify.....
> >
> > Model III's, Model IV's and early Series 5 aircraft used the .058 wall
> > spars. I think some of the early III's may have been .049
> >
> > Originally the Series 5 aircraft was a 1400# gross weight aircraft. When
> SS
> > increased the gross on the Series 5 aircraft, approx June of 95, they
went
> > to the .065 wall spar thickness. Therefore all Series 6 and 7 aircraft
> > would have .065 wall spars.
> >
> > Today all the wing spars are .065.. including the Classic IV. Before
you
> > ask... NO, one cannot increase the gross of the Classic IV with the
> larger
> > spars. There are significant other fuselage changes that were done to
the
> > early 5 from the IV that aided in the increase not to mention the dia of
> the
> > lift struts.
> >
> > Hope this helps.. and makes sense.
> >
> >
> > Blue Skies!!
> > John & Debra McBean
> > "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> Dcecil3@aol.com
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
> >
> > Model 3 is 2 1/2" .058 wall per Dave at SkyStar
> > D. Cecil
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Just one copy here. I don't see your email address listed twice on the
Kitfox List... Might be your ISP problem.
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
At 08:08 PM 12/27/2003 Saturday, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
>
>Is everybody getting double post or Am I signed up TWICE. BOB U.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
>To: "Kitfox List" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
><shilocom@c-magic.com>
> >
> > Jim,, I'm sure glad to hear about the wall thickness of the spars. When
>I
> > ask the question before your comment was .065 wall thickness. I was
> > upgrading my IV-1050 and could not get .065 to slip over the 7/8 tubing on
> > each end so I used .058. We took equal lengths of the .058 and weighted
> > them against a 99 model IV and the ..058 was slightly heavier, so we used
> > it. Thanks ,, Bob U.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
> > >
> > > Maybe I should clarify.....
> > >
> > > Model III's, Model IV's and early Series 5 aircraft used the .058 wall
> > > spars. I think some of the early III's may have been .049
> > >
> > > Originally the Series 5 aircraft was a 1400# gross weight aircraft. When
> > SS
> > > increased the gross on the Series 5 aircraft, approx June of 95, they
>went
> > > to the .065 wall spar thickness. Therefore all Series 6 and 7 aircraft
> > > would have .065 wall spars.
> > >
> > > Today all the wing spars are .065.. including the Classic IV. Before
>you
> > > ask... NO, one cannot increase the gross of the Classic IV with the
> > larger
> > > spars. There are significant other fuselage changes that were done to
>the
> > > early 5 from the IV that aided in the increase not to mention the dia of
> > the
> > > lift struts.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.. and makes sense.
> > >
> > >
> > > Blue Skies!!
> > > John & Debra McBean
> > > "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > Dcecil3@aol.com
> > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
> > >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
> > >
> > > Model 3 is 2 1/2" .058 wall per Dave at SkyStar
> > > D. Cecil
> > >
> > >
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925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Wwillyard@aol.com
I received 5 copies of the post.
William W.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Carroll" <RonCarr@Qwest.Net>
Fortunately, at my age I can read all five of them and not know they are the same
message.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Wwillyard@aol.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Double post
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Wwillyard@aol.com
I received 5 copies of the post.
William W.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Carroll" <RonCarr@Qwest.Net>
I also get several copies of a message, but only occasionally. Not all the time.
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Dralle
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Double post
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Just one copy here. I don't see your email address listed twice on the
Kitfox List... Might be your ISP problem.
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
At 08:08 PM 12/27/2003 Saturday, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
>
>Is everybody getting double post or Am I signed up TWICE. BOB U.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
>To: "Kitfox List" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
><shilocom@c-magic.com>
> >
> > Jim,, I'm sure glad to hear about the wall thickness of the spars. When
>I
> > ask the question before your comment was .065 wall thickness. I was
> > upgrading my IV-1050 and could not get .065 to slip over the 7/8 tubing on
> > each end so I used .058. We took equal lengths of the .058 and weighted
> > them against a 99 model IV and the ..058 was slightly heavier, so we used
> > it. Thanks ,, Bob U.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
> > >
> > > Maybe I should clarify.....
> > >
> > > Model III's, Model IV's and early Series 5 aircraft used the .058 wall
> > > spars. I think some of the early III's may have been .049
> > >
> > > Originally the Series 5 aircraft was a 1400# gross weight aircraft. When
> > SS
> > > increased the gross on the Series 5 aircraft, approx June of 95, they
>went
> > > to the .065 wall spar thickness. Therefore all Series 6 and 7 aircraft
> > > would have .065 wall spars.
> > >
> > > Today all the wing spars are .065.. including the Classic IV. Before
>you
> > > ask... NO, one cannot increase the gross of the Classic IV with the
> > larger
> > > spars. There are significant other fuselage changes that were done to
>the
> > > early 5 from the IV that aided in the increase not to mention the dia of
> > the
> > > lift struts.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.. and makes sense.
> > >
> > >
> > > Blue Skies!!
> > > John & Debra McBean
> > > "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > Dcecil3@aol.com
> > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: spar wall thickness
> > >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
> > >
> > > Model 3 is 2 1/2" .058 wall per Dave at SkyStar
> > > D. Cecil
> > >
> > >
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