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1. 01:03 AM - Re: A Maule tailwheel question (michel)
2. 05:30 AM - Re: Was Newbie > Kitfox Bush Plane (Clifford Begnaud)
3. 06:41 AM - Re: Air filters (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
4. 06:48 AM - Re: A Maule tailwheel question (Lowell Fitt)
5. 06:49 AM - Re: O-200 in kitfox Classic 1200? (Lowell Fitt)
6. 06:55 AM - Re: Air filters (Lowell Fitt)
7. 07:14 AM - Re: Need help with heater questions (Lowell Fitt)
8. 07:41 AM - Re: Need help with heater questions (Rick)
9. 08:00 AM - Re: Need help with heater questions (Rick)
10. 11:19 AM - EA-81 Turbo - SS valves ()
11. 11:31 AM - Re: A Maule tailwheel question (John Larsen)
12. 02:07 PM - Re: A Maule tailwheel question (Michel Verheughe)
13. 02:17 PM - Re: Air filters (dwight purdy)
14. 02:40 PM - Re: Air filters (John Oakley)
15. 02:44 PM - Re: A few hours on the tacho. (John Oakley)
16. 03:29 PM - Re: Need help with heater questions To Paul Seehafer (Ceashman@aol.com)
17. 03:36 PM - Re: Air filters (Ceashman@aol.com)
18. 03:43 PM - Re: EA-81 Turbo - SS valves (Rick)
19. 05:49 PM - Target Stores..... (JMCBEAN)
20. 06:04 PM - Re: A Maule tailwheel question (Lowell Fitt)
21. 06:05 PM - Re: Target Stores..... (Rick)
22. 06:13 PM - Re: Air filters (Lowell Fitt)
23. 06:20 PM - Re: A few hours on the tacho. (Mark Scott)
24. 06:22 PM - Re: Target Stores..... (Don Pearsall)
25. 06:25 PM - Re: Target Stores..... (cnichols)
26. 06:34 PM - Re: Target Stores..... (Fred Shiple)
27. 06:56 PM - Re: Target Stores..... (Ron Carroll)
28. 07:24 PM - Re: Target Stores..... (Ronald K. Stevens)
29. 07:49 PM - Re: Target Stores..... (JMCBEAN)
30. 08:58 PM - Re: A Maule tailwheel question (jimshumaker)
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| Subject: | A Maule tailwheel question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
Thanks William. No, even with the slack, no noticeable difference in handling.
>===== Original Message From "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net> =====
>It seemed so sloppy that I looked in to putting in a new sleeve (bronze
>bushing). The vertical shaft also seemed to leak grease out of it as fast
>as I pumped it in.
Thanks Jim. I just ordered a new bronze bushing from Aircraft Spruce, after
your advice. Like you, I see that all the grease I pump in gets easily out and
is the reason I had to take out the Maule tailgear for a good cleaning as it
was clustered with a mixture of grease, dust and sand.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Was Newbie > Kitfox Bush Plane |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Steve,
Look here for fairing ideas:
http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=main&category=Building%20Process
Cliff
>
> First, thanks for the responses so far from Vic, Cliff and Lowell, this
> is a great help. - Great List!
>
> Vic Wrote> keep the plywood!
> Vic, I assume you mean the false ribs?
>
> Cliff Wrote> Make your own lightweight strut fairings etc.
>
> Cliff, what materials do you make the Strut fairing out of?
>
> Lowell Wrote> all the fairings including a fully faired horizontal stab
> and rudder
>
> Lowell, what do you mean by fully faired horizontal stab and rudder?
>
>
> Thank, Steve Gandy
> s.gandy@comcast.net
> Aeronca L-3C N48540
> Kitfox 6 N540KF (Building)
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
Leading Edge Air Foils offers a round offset air filter. Their catalog is confusing
on the part number. These larger filters allowed 2-300 higher rpm than the
single carg air or two small straight units.
1-262-763-4087 or 1-800-532-3462
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>
> I am removing the bulky Carburetor Heat parts from my Model IV-1200 912ul to
> save power and weight. But now I will need some air filters to attach to my
> carburetors. I looked everywhere to try and find the part number someone
> put on the list (for a 912) previously, but I can't seem to find it. Anyone
> have the proper filter numbers handy?
>
>
> Paul Seehafer
> Wisconsin
> av8rps@tznet.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A Maule tailwheel question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Michel, the slack you are finding is caused by wear in a bronze bushing.
If it was a tapered bearing as in the wheel axle, tightening it would
eliminate the slack. My understanding is that the bushing is replicable. I
went to the Home Builders Special wheel from Aircraft Spruce rather than
trying to improve a wheel that most call adequate at best.
Mine also had the large Nyloc nut rather than a castle nut.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: A Maule tailwheel question
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Wwillyard@aol.com wrote:
> > The Maule tail wheel on my Classic IV uses a castle nut with a cotter
pin. I
> > adjusted mine to reduce the shake to a minimum, just because I felt that
> > mechanically this would be correct. I have to say that I did not notice
any
> > difference in ground handling but I feel better about it.
>
> Thank you, William. This is very interesting. Just to make sure we talk
about
> the same thing: this is the nut on the pivoting axle, right under the
grease
> cap, and not the nut on the wheel axis, right?
> If so, I might very well consider doing the same and get a castle nut for
it. I
> still wonder why it was not like that on the original, though. My
tailwheel is
> from 1991, by the way. But it works just fine. Just that bit of slack that
> slightly annoys me.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: O-200 in kitfox Classic 1200? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
My opinion - you hit the nail right on the head.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & Maria Lumgair" <dlummy@visi.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: O-200 in kitfox Classic 1200?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David & Maria Lumgair"
<dlummy@visi.net>
>
> Help Help Help -
>
> Anyone have any information on an O-200 Cont. in a Kitfox? A buddy found
a really good deal on one and currently has a rotax 618 that is near the end
of it's life cycle. I expressed concerns of the added weight screwing the
weight and balance up big time and I would expect that it would be near or
at gross with 1 passenger and fuel. Any comments? Anyone know the FWF
weight of an O-200? Any input appreciated.
>
> Dave
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
The large offset filter is Part Number RA-045V
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: <kerrjohna@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Air filters
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
>
> Leading Edge Air Foils offers a round offset air filter. Their catalog is
confusing on the part number. These larger filters allowed 2-300 higher rpm
than the single carg air or two small straight units.
>
> 1-262-763-4087 or 1-800-532-3462
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
> >
> > I am removing the bulky Carburetor Heat parts from my Model IV-1200
912ul to
> > save power and weight. But now I will need some air filters to attach
to my
> > carburetors. I looked everywhere to try and find the part number
someone
> > put on the list (for a 912) previously, but I can't seem to find it.
Anyone
> > have the proper filter numbers handy?
> >
> >
> > Paul Seehafer
> > Wisconsin
> > av8rps@tznet.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need help with heater questions |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Paul, I am in the middle of an annual and in checking the coolant lines and
clamps, I can't imagine how I got everything together. I did mine as a
retrofit with everything in place. It is a mystery to me.
If no one else can come up with photos I will try, but will have to wait
until later in the week.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Need help with heater questions
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>
> Anyone have any good photos (or advice) on heater hose connections for the
> factory supplied (earls) heater core kit I'm trying to make work in my
Model
> IV-1200 with a 912ul? I find there is little or no room to run tee's off
of
> the main hose connections in the engine compartment. I'm hoping one of
you
> may have a neat installation that you are so proud of that you might like
to
> send me a photograph and/or describe how to do it.
>
> Also, I suspect this won't be enough heat in our typical Wisconsin winters
> (like right now it is 3 degrees F outside). Any suggestions on additional
> cabin heat from exhaust systems in addition to the heater core heat?
>
>
> Paul Seehafer
> Wisconsin
>
> av8rps@tznet.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Need help with heater questions |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Paul, I will try to fine a shot or two and post to sportflight.
Rick
Still building the engine................
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Need help with heater questions
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Paul, I am in the middle of an annual and in checking the coolant lines and
clamps, I can't imagine how I got everything together. I did mine as a
retrofit with everything in place. It is a mystery to me.
If no one else can come up with photos I will try, but will have to wait
until later in the week.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Need help with heater questions
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>
> Anyone have any good photos (or advice) on heater hose connections for the
> factory supplied (earls) heater core kit I'm trying to make work in my
Model
> IV-1200 with a 912ul? I find there is little or no room to run tee's off
of
> the main hose connections in the engine compartment. I'm hoping one of
you
> may have a neat installation that you are so proud of that you might like
to
> send me a photograph and/or describe how to do it.
>
> Also, I suspect this won't be enough heat in our typical Wisconsin winters
> (like right now it is 3 degrees F outside). Any suggestions on additional
> cabin heat from exhaust systems in addition to the heater core heat?
>
>
> Paul Seehafer
> Wisconsin
>
> av8rps@tznet.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Need help with heater questions |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Here you go Paul.
http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=1073318146
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Need help with heater questions
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Paul, I will try to fine a shot or two and post to sportflight.
Rick
Still building the engine................
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Need help with heater questions
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Paul, I am in the middle of an annual and in checking the coolant lines and
clamps, I can't imagine how I got everything together. I did mine as a
retrofit with everything in place. It is a mystery to me.
If no one else can come up with photos I will try, but will have to wait
until later in the week.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Need help with heater questions
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>
> Anyone have any good photos (or advice) on heater hose connections for the
> factory supplied (earls) heater core kit I'm trying to make work in my
Model
> IV-1200 with a 912ul? I find there is little or no room to run tee's off
of
> the main hose connections in the engine compartment. I'm hoping one of
you
> may have a neat installation that you are so proud of that you might like
to
> send me a photograph and/or describe how to do it.
>
> Also, I suspect this won't be enough heat in our typical Wisconsin winters
> (like right now it is 3 degrees F outside). Any suggestions on additional
> cabin heat from exhaust systems in addition to the heater core heat?
>
>
> Paul Seehafer
> Wisconsin
>
> av8rps@tznet.com
>
>
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| Subject: | EA-81 Turbo - SS valves |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rkstevens@verizon.net>
Hey Rick,
Did you get your heads back from RAM yet???? How did the stainless valves turn
out? Did you get the roller rockers as well?
Ronald K. Stevens
rkstevens@verizon.net
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| Subject: | Re: A Maule tailwheel question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com>
Hello Michel;
Sounds like you have one of the early Maule wheels that had a inferior
pitor bearing. Maule has an upgrade for these. The newer wheels last
much longer than the early one.
Cheersl
John
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>Wwillyard@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>>The Maule tail wheel on my Classic IV uses a castle nut with a cotter pin. I
>>adjusted mine to reduce the shake to a minimum, just because I felt that
>>mechanically this would be correct. I have to say that I did not notice any
>>difference in ground handling but I feel better about it.
>>
>>
>
>Thank you, William. This is very interesting. Just to make sure we talk about
>the same thing: this is the nut on the pivoting axle, right under the grease
>cap, and not the nut on the wheel axis, right?
>If so, I might very well consider doing the same and get a castle nut for it.
I
>still wonder why it was not like that on the original, though. My tailwheel is
>from 1991, by the way. But it works just fine. Just that bit of slack that
>slightly annoys me.
>
>Cheers,
>Michel
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A Maule tailwheel question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Thanks for your answers, John and Lowell.
Yes, it must be an early Maule tailwheel. Yes, I understand that the "Home
builder Special wheel" is a better one. But I have now ordered a new bronze
bushing from Aircraft Spruce for $ 13.00 and I'll see first how it goes with
that. If I get more slack next year, I'll consider buying an entirely new
wheel. Maybe with a pneumatic tyre since I fly from an asphalt runway. More
pleasant than the hard plastic on the tarmac.
Lowell, you say it is a Nyloc nut, then there is no need for Loctite, right?
Thanks again for you help.
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
Paul
This site is really good for finding about any filter.
http://www.knfilters.com/universal/univsearch.htm
At 08:30 PM 1/4/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>
>I am removing the bulky Carburetor Heat parts from my Model IV-1200 912ul to
>save power and weight. But now I will need some air filters to attach to my
>carburetors. I looked everywhere to try and find the part number someone
>put on the list (for a 912) previously, but I can't seem to find it. Anyone
>have the proper filter numbers handy?
>
>
>Paul Seehafer
>Wisconsin
>av8rps@tznet.com
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
Paul,
are you sure you want to remove the heat system. I had carb ice this year
for the first time in 1000 kitfox time. scared the hell out of me. I had
forgoten the knob (carb heat) and bairly limped into a field. it was a big
loss in hp and we were headed downhill.
JOhn Oakley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul
Seehafer
Subject: Kitfox-List: Air filters
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
I am removing the bulky Carburetor Heat parts from my Model IV-1200 912ul to
save power and weight. But now I will need some air filters to attach to my
carburetors. I looked everywhere to try and find the part number someone
put on the list (for a 912) previously, but I can't seem to find it. Anyone
have the proper filter numbers handy?
Paul Seehafer
Wisconsin
av8rps@tznet.com
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| Subject: | A few hours on the tacho. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
Dave,
The 912 does not like to be used in any mode of 5000rpm or less. the rotax
people also say not to run this way. I had similar questions several year
ago. no I only run 5200 and up like they say.... all is good.
John Oakley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dave & Wendy
Grosvenor
Subject: Kitfox-List: A few hours on the tacho.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave & Wendy Grosvenor"
<dwg@iafrica.com>
I have managed to do about 5 hours on my Bushbaby so far and had some
smoother air to fly in. I'm still happy with the way she flies, and have
done a couple of stalls which are really a non-event. Indicating just under
35mph the nose simply drops gently down with no tendancy for a wing drop.
Take-off is really an eye opener. The tail is up almost as the throttle
hits the full throttle position and in a couple of seconds she is off the
ground. Climb rate solo with 1/2 tanks is 1100fpm. Level with 5000 rpm at
4000 ft I get 105mph indicated. I have the 912S and the long wings (the
Bushbaby also came in a shorter wing "speedster" version).
I think my prop pitch is still a bit course. I only get around 5000rpm on
climbout and full throttle in level flight also only gives me 5000rpm. I've
got a 3 blade 72" tapered tip warp drive prop.
Today I noticed the engine surging at around 4000rpm. I set the throttle at
4200rpm in level flight and locked it there. The rpm was dropping as much
as 300rpm and you could both hear and feel the surges. Above 4500 rpm it
doesn't seem to do it and around the 3500rpm mark I also didn't notice it
either. Idle is smooth. There does appear to be the 912S
roughness/vibration at 3800 rpm as others have had. Rpm is displayed on a
Rotax FlyDat, similar to an EIS.
Fuel system is standard. Two wing tanks feed a header behind the seats.
>From there it goes to the mechanical pump and then to the carbs. All
filters are clean. It certainly never seems to occur at full throttle which
I would think rules out fuel starvation. Someone at our club suggested it
might be because I don't have a fuel return line after the mechanical pump,
and that at throttle settings below full throttle the fuel pressure is
getting too high?
It has me puzzled at the moment and if anyone has any ideas I would
appreciate the input.
Cheers
Dave Grosvenor
Bushbaby ZU-CJD
Durban, South Africa
http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/dwg/index.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Need help with heater questions To Paul Seehafer |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Ceashman@aol.com
Hello Paul.
A suggestion for an exhaust heat system would be to look at page 271 in the
Aircraft Spruce catalogue.
It costs $75.00 (a lot of money for what you actually get, but this is
normal) It is crude but it actually works. You will have to make some modification
like cutting openings for the two front header pipes and you will have to cut a
one and a half inch hole in the stainless fire wall (which is a pain. I
purchased a round "knock-out" punch. Another $58.25, page 512.)
Nevertheless, it actually works. I am now working on an intake system to
scoop up the intake air and I need to make a remote control for an on / off
device. I am sure that when I make the scoop it will be very toasty inside.
Hope this helps. Greetings. Eric. Classic IV with a 912 UL
e-mail; ceashman@aol.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Ceashman@aol.com
Paul.
The filters I use are manufactured by K&N Engineering P.O.Box 1329 Riverside.
CA 92502. The item Number is RU - 2700. This is what I have on my 912 UL. I
purchased mine from Lockwood Aviation in Florida
Cheers. Eric.
e-mail; ceashman@aol.com
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| Subject: | EA-81 Turbo - SS valves |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
The heads are back and the valves look great. Beautiful guides. Still back
order on the rockers possibly mid Jan. The oil pan as well, again looks like
airplane parts not car. The guy knows his stuff.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
rkstevens@verizon.net
Subject: Kitfox-List: EA-81 Turbo - SS valves
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rkstevens@verizon.net>
Hey Rick,
Did you get your heads back from RAM yet???? How did the stainless valves
turn out? Did you get the roller rockers as well?
Ronald K. Stevens
rkstevens@verizon.net
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| Subject: | Target Stores..... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Guys.. I know that this is not a list for political discussions. This was
passed to me and as a Vet and an American thought it was worth passing on
Merry Christmas from Target !!
by Dick Forrey of the Vietnam Veterans Association
Recently we asked the local TARGET store to be a proud sponsor of
the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall during our spring recognition
event.
We received the following reply from the local TARGET management:
"Veterans do not meet our area of giving. We only donate to the arts,
social action groups, gay &lesbian causes, and education."
So I'm thinking, if the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall and
veterans in general do not meet their donation criteria, then
something is really wrong at this TARGET store. We were not asking
for thousands of dollars, not even hundreds, just a small sponsorship
for a memorial remembrance.
As a follow-up, I e-mailed the TARGET U.S. corporate headquarters
and their response was the same. That's their national policy.
Then I looked into the company further. They will not allow the
Marines to collect for 'Toys for Tots' at any of their stores. And
during the recent Iraq deployment, they would not allow families of
employees who were called up for active duty to continue their
insurance coverage while they were on military service. Then as I dig
further, TARGET is a French-owned corporation.
Now, I'm thinking again. If TARGET can not support American
Veterans, then why should I and my family support their stores by
spending our hard earned American dollars and to have their profits
sent to France. Without the American Vets, where would France be
today?
Feel free to pass this along to whomever you want.
Sincerely,
Dick Forrey
Veterans helping Veterans
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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| Subject: | Re: A Maule tailwheel question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Michel, At least mine looked like a Nyloc type nut. I doubt Loctite would
be necessary. Incidentally, the Home Builders Special tailwheel has tire
similar to the tires used on Roller Blades and it is much quieter than the
Maule tire on asphalt.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: A Maule tailwheel question
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Thanks for your answers, John and Lowell.
> Yes, it must be an early Maule tailwheel. Yes, I understand that the "Home
> builder Special wheel" is a better one. But I have now ordered a new
bronze
> bushing from Aircraft Spruce for $ 13.00 and I'll see first how it goes
with
> that. If I get more slack next year, I'll consider buying an entirely new
> wheel. Maybe with a pneumatic tyre since I fly from an asphalt runway.
More
> pleasant than the hard plastic on the tarmac.
> Lowell, you say it is a Nyloc nut, then there is no need for Loctite,
right?
>
> Thanks again for you help.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
>
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| Subject: | Target Stores..... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Copy. Consider me off their customer list.
Rick Chandler
CWO4 USMC Ret
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of JMCBEAN
Subject: Kitfox-List: Target Stores.....
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Guys.. I know that this is not a list for political discussions. This was
passed to me and as a Vet and an American thought it was worth passing on
Merry Christmas from Target !!
by Dick Forrey of the Vietnam Veterans Association
Recently we asked the local TARGET store to be a proud sponsor of
the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall during our spring recognition
event.
We received the following reply from the local TARGET management:
"Veterans do not meet our area of giving. We only donate to the arts,
social action groups, gay &lesbian causes, and education."
So I'm thinking, if the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall and
veterans in general do not meet their donation criteria, then
something is really wrong at this TARGET store. We were not asking
for thousands of dollars, not even hundreds, just a small sponsorship
for a memorial remembrance.
As a follow-up, I e-mailed the TARGET U.S. corporate headquarters
and their response was the same. That's their national policy.
Then I looked into the company further. They will not allow the
Marines to collect for 'Toys for Tots' at any of their stores. And
during the recent Iraq deployment, they would not allow families of
employees who were called up for active duty to continue their
insurance coverage while they were on military service. Then as I dig
further, TARGET is a French-owned corporation.
Now, I'm thinking again. If TARGET can not support American
Veterans, then why should I and my family support their stores by
spending our hard earned American dollars and to have their profits
sent to France. Without the American Vets, where would France be
today?
Feel free to pass this along to whomever you want.
Sincerely,
Dick Forrey
Veterans helping Veterans
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
John, Do you have the carb heat system on your airplane? If not you are
the first person I have heard of that had a real carb ice problem. You said
you forgotten the knob. Actually, I have heard of carb icing in the Rotax
912, but only in aircraft with the carb heat system in place. The induction
air is ducted from the front of the cowl - cold, whereas the air in non
carb heat installation the air is obtained from the back of the engine
compartment - warm. The absence of the friction in the system more than
compensates for the warmer air.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Air filters
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
>
> Paul,
> are you sure you want to remove the heat system. I had carb ice this year
> for the first time in 1000 kitfox time. scared the hell out of me. I had
> forgoten the knob (carb heat) and bairly limped into a field. it was a big
> loss in hp and we were headed downhill.
>
> JOhn Oakley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul
> Seehafer
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Air filters
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
>
> I am removing the bulky Carburetor Heat parts from my Model IV-1200 912ul
to
> save power and weight. But now I will need some air filters to attach to
my
> carburetors. I looked everywhere to try and find the part number someone
> put on the list (for a 912) previously, but I can't seem to find it.
Anyone
> have the proper filter numbers handy?
>
>
> Paul Seehafer
> Wisconsin
> av8rps@tznet.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A few hours on the tacho. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mark Scott" <scottm@dol.net>
I haven't worked on Rotax engines (yet) but for what it's worth I have
worked on a lot of bikes and older car engines and this kind of surging was
usually (in my experience) a result of a lean part-throttle condition. I'd
be thinking of looking at your jetting for part-throttle cruise and possibly
richening it up some (assuming that your fuel delivery system including
carbs is working properly).
That's my 2 cents...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Wendy Grosvenor" <dwg@iafrica.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: A few hours on the tacho.
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave & Wendy Grosvenor"
<dwg@iafrica.com>
>
> I have managed to do about 5 hours on my Bushbaby so far and had some
> smoother air to fly in. I'm still happy with the way she flies, and have
> done a couple of stalls which are really a non-event. Indicating just
under
> 35mph the nose simply drops gently down with no tendancy for a wing drop.
>
> Take-off is really an eye opener. The tail is up almost as the throttle
> hits the full throttle position and in a couple of seconds she is off the
> ground. Climb rate solo with 1/2 tanks is 1100fpm. Level with 5000 rpm
at
> 4000 ft I get 105mph indicated. I have the 912S and the long wings (the
> Bushbaby also came in a shorter wing "speedster" version).
>
> I think my prop pitch is still a bit course. I only get around 5000rpm on
> climbout and full throttle in level flight also only gives me 5000rpm.
I've
> got a 3 blade 72" tapered tip warp drive prop.
>
> Today I noticed the engine surging at around 4000rpm. I set the throttle
at
> 4200rpm in level flight and locked it there. The rpm was dropping as much
> as 300rpm and you could both hear and feel the surges. Above 4500 rpm it
> doesn't seem to do it and around the 3500rpm mark I also didn't notice it
> either. Idle is smooth. There does appear to be the 912S
> roughness/vibration at 3800 rpm as others have had. Rpm is displayed on a
> Rotax FlyDat, similar to an EIS.
>
> Fuel system is standard. Two wing tanks feed a header behind the seats.
> From there it goes to the mechanical pump and then to the carbs. All
> filters are clean. It certainly never seems to occur at full throttle
which
> I would think rules out fuel starvation. Someone at our club suggested it
> might be because I don't have a fuel return line after the mechanical
pump,
> and that at throttle settings below full throttle the fuel pressure is
> getting too high?
>
> It has me puzzled at the moment and if anyone has any ideas I would
> appreciate the input.
>
> Cheers
> Dave Grosvenor
> Bushbaby ZU-CJD
> Durban, South Africa
> http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/dwg/index.htm
>
>
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| Subject: | Target Stores..... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
This sounded like an urban legend so I looked into it further. When I was in
the Freight Forwarding business, my main client was Target, and their HQ was
in Minneapolis.
The email is false, according to Target. Here is a link to their response to
that email, which is at
http://target.com/common/page.jhtml?content=target_vet_support
Don Pearsall
_______________________
TARGET CORPORATION SUPPORTS VETERANS
~ Company is not foreign-owned ~
Since 2002, Target has been the victim of a misleading e-mail campaign. This
e-mail campaign grossly misrepresents our support of veterans and our
soldiers. In fact, the author of the original e-mail recently contacted
Target to express his regret for sending the initial e-mail in 2002 and to
share his concern about the false information being attributed to him.
Unfortunately, due to the nature of the Internet and e-mail communication,
the original e-mail has been repeatedly and inaccurately modified and
perpetuated by unknown writers.
The National Veterans of Foreign Wars posted a press release on their Web
site on December 6, 2002 to help clarify this issue and show their support
of Target at http://www.vfw.org/news/target.htm
Target Corporation is a publicly held U.S. company (NYSE: TGT). The company
has been based in Minneapolis, Minnesota ever since its founding as The
Dayton Company by businessman George Dayton in 1902. Target is not now, nor
has it ever been, foreign-owned.
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| Subject: | Re: Target Stores..... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "cnichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Hey , Guys:
Before everybody starts selling off their shares in Target and starting a
boycott of their stores, I think you should realize that this falls into the
category of internet garbage such as the old story of Wendy's using
earthworms in their hamburgers. I got a copy of this message more than a
month ago and had already forwarded it to a couple of friends before I
cooled down enough to do a little checking. As I recall, I went to Google,
and put in first the name Dick Forrey and later Vietnam Veterans
Association. I came up with some website whose main purpose is to debunk
this type of urban legend. Apparently this has been circulating for quite
some time. As I recall, there was a tiny grain of truth to it...apparently
some guy named Forrey had approached a Target store in Indiana, I think it
was, and was told he would have to go through channels to get any money
given to his organization. The rest of the story was apparently pure B.S.
Do Not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Target Stores.....
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
>
> Copy. Consider me off their customer list.
> Rick Chandler
> CWO4 USMC Ret
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of JMCBEAN
> To: Kitfox List
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Target Stores.....
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
>
> Guys.. I know that this is not a list for political discussions. This was
> passed to me and as a Vet and an American thought it was worth passing on
>
> Merry Christmas from Target !!
>
>
> by Dick Forrey of the Vietnam Veterans Association
>
>
> Recently we asked the local TARGET store to be a proud sponsor of
> the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall during our spring recognition
> event.
>
> We received the following reply from the local TARGET management:
> "Veterans do not meet our area of giving. We only donate to the arts,
> social action groups, gay &lesbian causes, and education."
>
> So I'm thinking, if the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall and
> veterans in general do not meet their donation criteria, then
> something is really wrong at this TARGET store. We were not asking
> for thousands of dollars, not even hundreds, just a small sponsorship
> for a memorial remembrance.
>
> As a follow-up, I e-mailed the TARGET U.S. corporate headquarters
> and their response was the same. That's their national policy.
>
> Then I looked into the company further. They will not allow the
> Marines to collect for 'Toys for Tots' at any of their stores. And
> during the recent Iraq deployment, they would not allow families of
> employees who were called up for active duty to continue their
> insurance coverage while they were on military service. Then as I dig
> further, TARGET is a French-owned corporation.
>
> Now, I'm thinking again. If TARGET can not support American
> Veterans, then why should I and my family support their stores by
> spending our hard earned American dollars and to have their profits
> sent to France. Without the American Vets, where would France be
> today?
>
> Feel free to pass this along to whomever you want.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Dick Forrey
>
> Veterans helping Veterans
>
>
> Blue Skies!!
> John & Debra McBean
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
>
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| Subject: | Target Stores..... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
Don, Thanks for tracking this down for us.
Fred
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Target Stores..... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Carroll" <RonCarr@Qwest.Net>
Hate mail is dangerous to all concerned. I would like to refer you to the following
website for clarification of the claims made in this letter. The site includes
the following apology from the author, Dick Forrey, admitting his mistake
in writing it. It was not meant to be circulated in the manner it is.
Dick Forrey, the man who started the anti-Target brouhaha, has since admitted his
mistake:
"I made a mistake on this one, and I've learned a hard lesson - that's for sure.
What started out as a message for the members in our organization has turned
into a hate-type thing. I never wanted to start any national boycott. I just
wish it would all stop.
Some people have used my words and perpetuated lies. It's sad that some of these
people would use veterans as a way to push their own political views. I've
sent out a retraction, and no one pays any attention. "
I'm now sensitive to this sort of thing, especially since I was personally challenged
by recipients I had blindly forwarded it to recently. Before forwarding
this kind of hate mail I should have looked into the claims first. It isn't
fair to Target Stores when claims are made against them without cause. Circulating
mail like this is slanderous and should warrant investigation before passing
it on to others. Sort of like the blind leading the blind.
Please visit: http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp
I'm certain you will reconsider your choice to forward this type of mail without
first looking into the claim(s) yourself. Some may have credence, this one
does not.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: JMCBEAN
To: Kitfox List
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 5:48 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Target Stores.....
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Guys.. I know that this is not a list for political discussions. This was
passed to me and as a Vet and an American thought it was worth passing on
Merry Christmas from Target !!
by Dick Forrey of the Vietnam Veterans Association
Recently we asked the local TARGET store to be a proud sponsor of
the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall during our spring recognition
event.
We received the following reply from the local TARGET management:
"Veterans do not meet our area of giving. We only donate to the arts,
social action groups, gay &lesbian causes, and education."
So I'm thinking, if the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall and
veterans in general do not meet their donation criteria, then
something is really wrong at this TARGET store. We were not asking
for thousands of dollars, not even hundreds, just a small sponsorship
for a memorial remembrance.
As a follow-up, I e-mailed the TARGET U.S. corporate headquarters
and their response was the same. That's their national policy.
Then I looked into the company further. They will not allow the
Marines to collect for 'Toys for Tots' at any of their stores. And
during the recent Iraq deployment, they would not allow families of
employees who were called up for active duty to continue their
insurance coverage while they were on military service. Then as I dig
further, TARGET is a French-owned corporation.
Now, I'm thinking again. If TARGET can not support American
Veterans, then why should I and my family support their stores by
spending our hard earned American dollars and to have their profits
sent to France. Without the American Vets, where would France be
today?
Feel free to pass this along to whomever you want.
Sincerely,
Dick Forrey
Veterans helping Veterans
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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| Subject: | Re: Target Stores..... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ronald K. Stevens" <rkstevens@verizon.net>
Looks like WallMart from now on for me!
Ron Stevens
Kitfox 6 NSI Turbo Cap 140
JMCBEAN wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
>
>Guys.. I know that this is not a list for political discussions. This was
>passed to me and as a Vet and an American thought it was worth passing on
>
>Merry Christmas from Target !!
>
>
>by Dick Forrey of the Vietnam Veterans Association
>
>
>Recently we asked the local TARGET store to be a proud sponsor of
>the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall during our spring recognition
>event.
>
>We received the following reply from the local TARGET management:
>"Veterans do not meet our area of giving. We only donate to the arts,
>social action groups, gay &lesbian causes, and education."
>
>So I'm thinking, if the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall and
>veterans in general do not meet their donation criteria, then
>something is really wrong at this TARGET store. We were not asking
>for thousands of dollars, not even hundreds, just a small sponsorship
>for a memorial remembrance.
>
>As a follow-up, I e-mailed the TARGET U.S. corporate headquarters
>and their response was the same. That's their national policy.
>
>Then I looked into the company further. They will not allow the
>Marines to collect for 'Toys for Tots' at any of their stores. And
>during the recent Iraq deployment, they would not allow families of
>employees who were called up for active duty to continue their
>insurance coverage while they were on military service. Then as I dig
>further, TARGET is a French-owned corporation.
>
>Now, I'm thinking again. If TARGET can not support American
>Veterans, then why should I and my family support their stores by
>spending our hard earned American dollars and to have their profits
>sent to France. Without the American Vets, where would France be
>today?
>
>Feel free to pass this along to whomever you want.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Dick Forrey
>
>Veterans helping Veterans
>
>
>Blue Skies!!
>John & Debra McBean
>"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Target Stores..... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Thanks Don..... I thought I got this from a reliable source that I know
well... Just goes back to an old lessen... TRUST and VERIFY !!
I'm sure they got it from someone and forwarded it prior to cooling off.
As I'm sure I did.
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Pearsall
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Target Stores.....
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
This sounded like an urban legend so I looked into it further. When I was in
the Freight Forwarding business, my main client was Target, and their HQ was
in Minneapolis.
The email is false, according to Target. Here is a link to their response to
that email, which is at
http://target.com/common/page.jhtml?content=target_vet_support
Don Pearsall
_______________________
TARGET CORPORATION SUPPORTS VETERANS
~ Company is not foreign-owned ~
Since 2002, Target has been the victim of a misleading e-mail campaign. This
e-mail campaign grossly misrepresents our support of veterans and our
soldiers. In fact, the author of the original e-mail recently contacted
Target to express his regret for sending the initial e-mail in 2002 and to
share his concern about the false information being attributed to him.
Unfortunately, due to the nature of the Internet and e-mail communication,
the original e-mail has been repeatedly and inaccurately modified and
perpetuated by unknown writers.
The National Veterans of Foreign Wars posted a press release on their Web
site on December 6, 2002 to help clarify this issue and show their support
of Target at http://www.vfw.org/news/target.htm
Target Corporation is a publicly held U.S. company (NYSE: TGT). The company
has been based in Minneapolis, Minnesota ever since its founding as The
Dayton Company by businessman George Dayton in 1902. Target is not now, nor
has it ever been, foreign-owned.
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| Subject: | Re: A Maule tailwheel question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Micheal
I put a "Home Builders Special" wheel on my maule and was impressed with how
much smoother the ride was. I think I had to bush the bearings....and put
oversize washers to catch the wheel if it seperated from the bearings. But
it only cost about $25 to upgrade to a soft ride.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: A Maule tailwheel question
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Thanks for your answers, John and Lowell.
> Yes, it must be an early Maule tailwheel. Yes, I understand that the "Home
> builder Special wheel" is a better one. But I have now ordered a new
bronze
> bushing from Aircraft Spruce for $ 13.00 and I'll see first how it goes
with
> that. If I get more slack next year, I'll consider buying an entirely new
> wheel. Maybe with a pneumatic tyre since I fly from an asphalt runway.
More
> pleasant than the hard plastic on the tarmac.
> Lowell, you say it is a Nyloc nut, then there is no need for Loctite,
right?
>
> Thanks again for you help.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
>
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