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1. 03:54 AM - Re: What Gives at Skystar? (David & Maria Lumgair)
2. 05:32 AM - Re: EGT calibration. (michel)
3. 06:08 AM - Re: What Gives at Skystar? (Dcecil3@aol.com)
4. 06:26 AM - Re: What Gives at Skystar? (JMCBEAN)
5. 06:34 AM - Re: What Gives at Skystar? (Dcecil3@aol.com)
6. 11:08 AM - AFFIDAVIT OF OWNERSHIP FOR AMATEUR-BUILT AIRCRAFT (Torgeir Mortensen)
7. 03:43 PM - Re: Skyranch (John Balunda)
8. 04:02 PM - Re: Skyranch (Kitfox)
9. 06:36 PM - 912S - Powerfin Prop Now what? (Randy Daughenbaugh)
10. 09:53 PM - Re: 912S - Powerfin Prop Now what? (Bob Robertson)
11. 10:30 PM - Re: 912S - Powerfin Prop Now what? (John Anderson)
12. 11:21 PM - Re: 912S - Powerfin Prop Now what? (Bob Robertson)
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| Subject: | Re: What Gives at Skystar? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David & Maria Lumgair" <dlummy@visi.net>
Closed for the holiday and inventory. Dave
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From: <Dcecil3@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: What Gives at Skystar?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
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> Have sent 3 E-Mails to them for Parts and no Answer. Anyone have any
Ideas?
> D. Cecil
> KF#950
>
>
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| Subject: | EGT calibration. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
>===== Original Message From Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no> =====
>In this table, you'll find A VOLTAGE, yes this is mV-, so you'll need a
>mV generator to do this test, however, I'm sure you'll handle this
>"small" problem.. :)
Got it! Thanks, Torgeir. I was afraid I had to rub two flintstones to produce
heat, but producing a voltage is easier! :-)
I have now downloaded and printed the Service Information and will check if my
Mascot power supply can be as subtle as to produce exactly, er ... 42.92 mV.
If not, I'll borrow something from a ham friend. Thanks again.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: What Gives at Skystar? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
Sorry to bother you at home LOL
thanks
David
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| Subject: | What Gives at Skystar? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Inventory finished yesterday... should be getting emailed or called back
today.
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dcecil3@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: What Gives at Skystar?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
Sorry to bother you at home LOL
thanks
David
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| Subject: | Re: What Gives at Skystar? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com
Thanks
Sorry to cause a Rift .Forgot that people do inventory this time of year.
David Cecil
KF 950
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | AFFIDAVIT OF OWNERSHIP FOR AMATEUR-BUILT AIRCRAFT |
UPPERCASE_50_75
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi Folks,
Just wondered, thought someone was looking for the "AFFIDAVIT OF
OWNERSHIP FOR AMATEUR-BUILT AIRCRAFT". By some reason, I happened to
have this form in pdf format.
Torgeir.
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List:Skyranch |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Balunda" <JohnCA58@pacbell.net>
This message is for Chris Bates , I got your package from Sacramento Sky
Ranch on UPS this morning and you should be able to track it , I lost
your email address so had to let you know on here. John
P.S. my wife love to see a picture of your airplane LOL she can't believe
an airplane has fabric on it
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List:Skyranch |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kitfox" <Kitfox@chrisbates.co.uk>
Hi John, thanks for that, extremely grateful.
Other bits in the UK now so repairs start next week.
I'll send you some pictures, wings clothed & unclothed, should put her off
flying for life!!!
Thanks again,
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Balunda" <JohnCA58@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:Skyranch
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Balunda" <JohnCA58@pacbell.net>
>
> This message is for Chris Bates , I got your package from Sacramento
Sky
> Ranch on UPS this morning and you should be able to track it , I lost
> your email address so had to let you know on here. John
>
> P.S. my wife love to see a picture of your airplane LOL she can't believe
> an airplane has fabric on it
>
>
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| Subject: | 912S - Powerfin Prop Now what? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
I have a 912S and a nice Powerfin prop that I am not smart enough to
hook together.
The mounting bolts that come with the prop have Allen heads that fit
through the mounting holes on the engine. 13 mm holes and heads same
with a little clearance??
I suspect that I need something like bushings to take the slack out
between the 8 mm bolt and the 13 mm holes and then a larger washer that
captures the bushing and won't go through the hole. Again ???? It
seems like they should have come with the prop or engine or the
extension. ???
I also have a 2" prop extension with the same issues, but once I solve
one the other should be identical with 2" longer bolts.
Am I on the right track? Who has these parts? Skystar? Powerfin?
Rotax?
Thanks for eliminating my ignorance in this area.
Randy - Series 5/7 - It's the little things.......
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| Subject: | Re: 912S - Powerfin Prop Now what? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <aerocon1@telusplanet.net>
Randy...
Wadda you mean "not smart enough"!!!! You already figured out that the 8mm
bolts won't work in a 13mm hole. ;
)
Actually, there are some "spigot" nuts (shouldered nuts) that press into the
13mm holes and have an 8mm thread.
These nuts will protrude through the front of the prop flange and also act
as dowels. Your prop should have come with a hub that is drilled to accept
these dowels. If you are using a 2" prop extension you will need to have
the extension drilled to accept the dowels.
Any of the Rotax Service Centers can supply you with the nuts. You will
have to replace the bolts you recieved with the Powerfin. Make sure
the new bolts are also 8mm 8.8... (Don't get any of the high strength metric
bolts as they are too brittle and can (will) fracture.
Hope this helps
Bob Robertson
Light Engine Services Ltd.
Rotax Service Center
St. Albert, Ab. Can
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: 912S - Powerfin Prop Now what?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
> I have a 912S and a nice Powerfin prop that I am not smart enough to
> hook together.
>
> The mounting bolts that come with the prop have Allen heads that fit
> through the mounting holes on the engine. 13 mm holes and heads same
> with a little clearance??
>
> I suspect that I need something like bushings to take the slack out
> between the 8 mm bolt and the 13 mm holes and then a larger washer that
> captures the bushing and won't go through the hole. Again ???? It
> seems like they should have come with the prop or engine or the
> extension. ???
>
> I also have a 2" prop extension with the same issues, but once I solve
> one the other should be identical with 2" longer bolts.
>
> Am I on the right track? Who has these parts? Skystar? Powerfin?
> Rotax?
>
> Thanks for eliminating my ignorance in this area.
>
> Randy - Series 5/7 - It's the little things.......
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 912S - Powerfin Prop Now what? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
"Bob Robertson" wrote:
Don't get any of the high strength metric
bolts as they are too brittle and can (will) fracture.
Tell us more about this Bob, how are they idenifiable??
From: "Bob Robertson" <AEROCON1@TELUSPLANET.NET>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912S - Powerfin PropNow what?
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <AEROCON1@TELUSPLANET.NET>
Randy...
Wadda you mean "not smart enough"!!!! You already figured out that the 8mm
bolts won't work in a 13mm hole. ;
)
Actually, there are some "spigot" nuts (shouldered nuts) that press into the
13mm holes and have an 8mm thread.
These nuts will protrude through the front of the prop flange and also act
as dowels. Your prop should have come with a hub that is drilled to accept
these dowels. If you are using a 2" prop extension you will need to have
the extension drilled to accept the dowels.
Any of the Rotax Service Centers can supply you with the nuts.You will
have to replace the bolts you recieved with the Powerfin.Make sure
the new bolts are also 8mm 8.8... (Don't get any of the high strength metric
bolts as they are too brittle and can (will) fracture.
Hope this helps
Bob Robertson
Light Engine Services Ltd.
Rotax Service Center
St. Albert, Ab. Can
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <RJDAUGH@RAPIDNET.COM>
Subject: Kitfox-List: 912S - Powerfin Prop Now what?
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "RandyDaughenbaugh"
<RJDAUGH@RAPIDNET.COM>
I have a 912S and a nice Powerfin prop that I am not smart enough to
hook together.
The mounting bolts that come with the prop have Allen heads that fit
through the mounting holes on the engine.13 mm holes and heads same
with a little clearance??
I suspect that I need something like bushings to take the slack out
between the 8 mm bolt and the 13 mm holes and then a larger washer that
captures the bushing and won't go through the hole.Again ????It
seems like they should have come with the prop or engine or the
extension.???
I also have a 2" prop extension with the same issues, but once I solve
one the other should be identical with 2" longer bolts.
Am I on the right track?Who has these parts?Skystar?Powerfin?
Rotax?
Thanks for eliminating my ignorance in this area.
Randy- Series 5/7 - It's the little things.......
Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra Jetstream @ http://www.xtra.co.nz/jetstream
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| Subject: | Re: 912S - Powerfin Prop Now what? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <aerocon1@telusplanet.net>
Hi John,
Metric bolts, like SAE bolts have "identifiers" on the hex head. Metric
bolts will have their "strength rating" listed numerically.
AN bolts are close to SAE Grade 5 in their strength. The equivelant rating
for a metric bolt would be 8.8. The higher the number the
stronger and more bittle the bolt will be. I can't remember the number of
the high strength metric bolt .
8.8 is what you would want to use for props.
regards
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912S - Powerfin Prop Now what?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
<janderson412@hotmail.com>
>
>
> "Bob Robertson" wrote:
>
>
> Don't get any of the high strength metric
> bolts as they are too brittle and can (will) fracture.
>
>
> Tell us more about this Bob, how are they idenifiable??
>
>
> From: "Bob Robertson" <AEROCON1@TELUSPLANET.NET>
> To: <KITFOX-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912S - Powerfin PropNow what?
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 22:53:21 -0700
>
> -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson"
<AEROCON1@TELUSPLANET.NET>
>
> Randy...
>
> Wadda you mean "not smart enough"!!!! You already figured out that the 8mm
> bolts won't work in a 13mm hole. ;
> )
> Actually, there are some "spigot" nuts (shouldered nuts) that press into
the
> 13mm holes and have an 8mm thread.
> These nuts will protrude through the front of the prop flange and also act
> as dowels. Your prop should have come with a hub that is drilled to accept
> these dowels. If you are using a 2" prop extension you will need to have
> the extension drilled to accept the dowels.
> Any of the Rotax Service Centers can supply you with the nuts.You will
> have to replace the bolts you recieved with the Powerfin.Make sure
> the new bolts are also 8mm 8.8... (Don't get any of the high strength
metric
> bolts as they are too brittle and can (will) fracture.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Bob Robertson
> Light Engine Services Ltd.
> Rotax Service Center
> St. Albert, Ab. Can
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <RJDAUGH@RAPIDNET.COM>
> To: <KITFOX-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: 912S - Powerfin Prop Now what?
>
>
> -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "RandyDaughenbaugh"
> <RJDAUGH@RAPIDNET.COM>
>
> I have a 912S and a nice Powerfin prop that I am not smart enough to
> hook together.
>
> The mounting bolts that come with the prop have Allen heads that fit
> through the mounting holes on the engine.13 mm holes and heads same
> with a little clearance??
>
> I suspect that I need something like bushings to take the slack out
> between the 8 mm bolt and the 13 mm holes and then a larger washer that
> captures the bushing and won't go through the hole.Again ????It
> seems like they should have come with the prop or engine or the
> extension.???
>
> I also have a 2" prop extension with the same issues, but once I solve
> one the other should be identical with 2" longer bolts.
>
> Am I on the right track?Who has these parts?Skystar?Powerfin?
> Rotax?
>
> Thanks for eliminating my ignorance in this area.
>
> Randy- Series 5/7 - It's the little things.......
>
>
> Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra Jetstream @
http://www.xtra.co.nz/jetstream
>
>
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