Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:02 AM - Re: Fuel Sight Tube (Harold Flynn)
2. 05:11 AM - Re: Fuel Sight Tube (Harold Flynn)
3. 05:37 AM - Lycoming install (Flybradair@cs.com)
4. 06:20 AM - Re: 2-blade vs. 3-blade (Patricia Truter)
5. 06:43 AM - Re: Fuel Sight Tube (Steve Zakreski)
6. 08:11 AM - M2 exhaust reroute pics ()
7. 08:48 AM - Re: 2-blade vs. 3-blade (DeWayne Clifford)
8. 09:56 AM - Re: Fuel Sight Tube (Wwillyard@aol.com)
9. 01:39 PM - Re: Extension of the shortned exhaust knee. was: 2-blade vs. (Torgeir Mortensen)
10. 04:10 PM - Link to Mike Stratman's tech. artickles. (Torgeir Mortensen)
11. 04:33 PM - Re: 2-blade vs. 3-blade (dwight purdy)
12. 05:08 PM - Re: M2 exhaust reroute pics (Rupert Tinker)
13. 05:40 PM - Tools (JMCBEAN)
14. 08:38 PM - Re: Tools (Lowell Fitt)
15. 11:48 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Sight Tube |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Harold Flynn <hflynn46531@yahoo.com>
Dave & Wendy Grosvenor <dwg@iafrica.com> wrote:--> Kitfox-List message posted by:
"Dave & Wendy Grosvenor"
Has anyone tried the polyurethane tubing from ACS, p/n 0585-071. It says
it's unaffected by fuel, oil, etc and doesn't age. Is it a clear tubing? I
have emailed ACS asking them if it's clear but as usual, they don't reply to
emails.
I am using green tygon for my sight gauges but I struggle to see the fuel in
it. Previously I had made the sight gauges from clear acrylic tubing from
ACS. You could see the fuel level really nicely but they cracked before I
even got the airplane flying.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Zakreski"
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel Sight Tube
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski
I like your solution. Is there something inside the tygon tubing? Any
problem getting the tygon to make a 90 degree bend without kinking?
SteveZ
Calgary
Why not use polyurethane 90 degree fittings
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Harold Flynn <hflynn46531@yahoo.com>
Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski
I like your solution. Is there something inside the tygon tubing? Any
problem getting the tygon to make a 90 degree bend without kinking?
SteveZ
Why not use polyurethane 90 degree fittings
Calgary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Hammond
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel Sight Tube
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Bill Hammond
Steve:
I had problems with the Skystar butyrate sight tubes and the
Parker Hannefin (black) fittings also. After soliciting input
from the list, I elected to replace them with tygon and barbed
fittings. Since then, no leaks. There is a picture on my web
site at http://www.itsys3.com/kitfox/discover.shtml
Bill Hammond
Parker, CO
N913KF Kitfox Series 6
Steve Zakreski wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski
>
> I have a persistent leak in one of my sight tube fittings on my Classic
4.
> My sight tube assembly supplied from Skystar is two rather unusual black
> threaded adapters that thread into the tank, with internal O-rings that
> accept the plastic sight tube.
> Question: Is this still the system used by Skystar. Has someone found
> something that works better.
>
> SteveZ
>
>
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| Subject: | Lycoming install |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Flybradair@cs.com
Any of you lycoming drivers out there have some installation pictures available
that you could send me direct?
It sure would be appreciated.
Brad Martin
Wichita
outback/lyc o-235l2c
Engine install
flybradair@cs.com
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| Subject: | 2-blade vs. 3-blade |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Patricia Truter" <PTruter@csir.co.za>
We have managed to 'fold' up the exhaust (without reducing the length)
of the 618 and the 582 (blue top) to fit into the KitFox II Cowls. If
you want pictures, please let me know.
Patricia
>>> dpurdy@comteck.com 2004-02-22 >>>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy < dpurdy@comteck.com >
I am flying 2 blade IVO on a Model II 503. It is only a 61 in. Due to
the
reduced hp.caused by the shortened exhaust I had to crank pitch out
when
used as a three blade. Very slow but smooth. As a two blade I have the
pitch cranked up to almost max. Not as smooth but much better cruise.
Has anyone ever come up with a good way to get the exhaust back up to
Rotax specs. for the model 1thru 3?
Dwight
At 03:25 PM 2/20/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <
algate@attglobal.net >
>
>John
>
>The noise drop inside my plane was so apparent that everybody that
flew in
>it before has commented. I went from a 3 blade Ultralight IVOprop to a
2
>blade Medium Ivoprop which is considerably wider in chord and much
more
>robust.
>
>Maybe that is the reason for the noise reduction - I'm not sure but
even my
>radio works better now with the quieter cabin.
>
>regards
>
>Gary Algate
>Lite2/582
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" < JDMCBEAN@cableone.net
>
>
>As a general rule... a 3 blade prop will be quieter and will climb
better.
>A two blade will cruise better and be more efficient. This is
providing
>one is comparing similar props.
>
>Blue Skies!!
>John & Debra McBean
>"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
I don't think there is enough space for a 90 degree fitting.
SteveZ
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Harold Flynn
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel Sight Tube
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Harold Flynn <hflynn46531@yahoo.com>
Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski
I like your solution. Is there something inside the tygon tubing? Any
problem getting the tygon to make a 90 degree bend without kinking?
SteveZ
Why not use polyurethane 90 degree fittings
Calgary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Hammond
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel Sight Tube
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Bill Hammond
Steve:
I had problems with the Skystar butyrate sight tubes and the
Parker Hannefin (black) fittings also. After soliciting input
from the list, I elected to replace them with tygon and barbed
fittings. Since then, no leaks. There is a picture on my web
site at http://www.itsys3.com/kitfox/discover.shtml
Bill Hammond
Parker, CO
N913KF Kitfox Series 6
Steve Zakreski wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski
>
> I have a persistent leak in one of my sight tube fittings on my Classic
4.
> My sight tube assembly supplied from Skystar is two rather unusual black
> threaded adapters that thread into the tank, with internal O-rings that
> accept the plastic sight tube.
> Question: Is this still the system used by Skystar. Has someone found
> something that works better.
>
> SteveZ
>
>
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| Subject: | M2 exhaust reroute pics |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rex@awarenest.com>
Yes Patricia, I would like to see your pictures. I have a
Model II with a standard 582 (not a blue head). What would
be the difference for my exhaust?
Rex
N750GP
South Park, CO.
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 16:19:12 +0200
"Patricia Truter" <PTruter@csir.co.za> wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Patricia Truter"
><PTruter@csir.co.za>
>
>We have managed to 'fold' up the exhaust (without
>reducing the length)
>of the 618 and the 582 (blue top) to fit into the KitFox
>II Cowls. If
>you want pictures, please let me know.
>
>Patricia
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| Subject: | Re: 2-blade vs. 3-blade |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "DeWayne Clifford" <kitfox@aalweb.net>
I would like any pictures you have please . THANKS !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patricia Truter" <PTruter@csir.co.za>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 2-blade vs. 3-blade
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Patricia Truter" <PTruter@csir.co.za>
>
> We have managed to 'fold' up the exhaust (without reducing the length)
> of the 618 and the 582 (blue top) to fit into the KitFox II Cowls. If
> you want pictures, please let me know.
>
> Patricia
> >>> dpurdy@comteck.com 2004-02-22 >>>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy < dpurdy@comteck.com >
>
> I am flying 2 blade IVO on a Model II 503. It is only a 61 in. Due to
> the
> reduced hp.caused by the shortened exhaust I had to crank pitch out
> when
> used as a three blade. Very slow but smooth. As a two blade I have the
>
> pitch cranked up to almost max. Not as smooth but much better cruise.
> Has anyone ever come up with a good way to get the exhaust back up to
> Rotax specs. for the model 1thru 3?
>
> Dwight
>
>
> At 03:25 PM 2/20/2004 -0800, you wrote:
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <
> algate@attglobal.net >
> >
> >John
> >
> >The noise drop inside my plane was so apparent that everybody that
> flew in
> >it before has commented. I went from a 3 blade Ultralight IVOprop to a
> 2
> >blade Medium Ivoprop which is considerably wider in chord and much
> more
> >robust.
> >
> >Maybe that is the reason for the noise reduction - I'm not sure but
> even my
> >radio works better now with the quieter cabin.
> >
> >regards
> >
> >Gary Algate
> >Lite2/582
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" < JDMCBEAN@cableone.net
> >
> >
> >As a general rule... a 3 blade prop will be quieter and will climb
> better.
> >A two blade will cruise better and be more efficient. This is
> providing
> >one is comparing similar props.
> >
> >Blue Skies!!
> >John & Debra McBean
> >"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
> ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Sight Tube |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Wwillyard@aol.com
In a message dated 3/1/2004 2:16:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, dwg@iafrica.com
writes:
> Has anyone tried the polyurethane tubing from ACS, p/n 0585-071. It says
> it's unaffected by fuel, oil, etc and doesn't age. Is it a clear tubing? I
> have emailed ACS asking them if it's clear but as usual, they don't reply to
> emails.
>
>
I just changed out my fuel sight tubes using the polyurethane tubing and
brass barbed fittings. This tubing works nice for the bends also. It is too soon
to know about longevity or discoloration, but otherwise I am happy as the
sight tubes are once again clear and easy to see the fuel level.
William Willyard
Classic IV
Grandville, MI
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List:Extension of the shortned exhaust knee. was: 2-blade vs. |
3-blade
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi Patricia,
I'll very much like to see such a modification.
Thanks.
Torgeir.
Patricia Truter wrote:
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Patricia Truter" <PTruter@csir.co.za>
>
> We have managed to 'fold' up the exhaust (without reducing the length)
> of the 618 and the 582 (blue top) to fit into the KitFox II Cowls. If
> you want pictures, please let me know.
>
> Patricia
> >>> dpurdy@comteck.com 2004-02-22 >>>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy < dpurdy@comteck.com >
>
> I am flying 2 blade IVO on a Model II 503. It is only a 61 in. Due to
> the
> reduced hp.caused by the shortened exhaust I had to crank pitch out
> when
> used as a three blade. Very slow but smooth. As a two blade I have the
>
> pitch cranked up to almost max. Not as smooth but much better cruise.
> Has anyone ever come up with a good way to get the exhaust back up to
> Rotax specs. for the model 1thru 3?
>
> Dwight
>
> At 03:25 PM 2/20/2004 -0800, you wrote:
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <
> algate@attglobal.net >
> >
> >John
> >
> >The noise drop inside my plane was so apparent that everybody that
> flew in
> >it before has commented. I went from a 3 blade Ultralight IVOprop to a
> 2
> >blade Medium Ivoprop which is considerably wider in chord and much
> more
> >robust.
> >
> >Maybe that is the reason for the noise reduction - I'm not sure but
> even my
> >radio works better now with the quieter cabin.
> >
> >regards
> >
> >Gary Algate
> >Lite2/582
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" < JDMCBEAN@cableone.net
> >
> >
> >As a general rule... a 3 blade prop will be quieter and will climb
> better.
> >A two blade will cruise better and be more efficient. This is
> providing
> >one is comparing similar props.
> >
> >Blue Skies!!
> >John & Debra McBean
> >"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
> ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >
> >
>
> --
> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> believed to be clean.
> MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support.
>
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| Subject: | Link to Mike Stratman's tech. artickles. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi Folks,
Really quiet today, well-, here it's midnight!
So, here is Mike Stratman's tech articles about (mostly two strokes)
lot's of interesting things.
I.E. There is an article (all are in pdf) about "Anti freeze in aluminum
engine", or the various exhaust stack for two strokes.
Here is the link:
http://www.800-airwolf.com/articles.htm
Regards
Torgeir.
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| Subject: | 2-blade vs. 3-blade |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com>
I would like to see a picture. Can you tell us how much we need to put back?
Dwight
At 04:19 PM 3/1/2004 +0200, you wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Patricia Truter" <PTruter@csir.co.za>
>
>We have managed to 'fold' up the exhaust (without reducing the length)
>of the 618 and the 582 (blue top) to fit into the KitFox II Cowls. If
>you want pictures, please let me know.
>
>Patricia
> >>> dpurdy@comteck.com 2004-02-22 >>>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy < dpurdy@comteck.com >
>
>I am flying 2 blade IVO on a Model II 503. It is only a 61 in. Due to
>the
>reduced hp.caused by the shortened exhaust I had to crank pitch out
>when
>used as a three blade. Very slow but smooth. As a two blade I have the
>
>pitch cranked up to almost max. Not as smooth but much better cruise.
>Has anyone ever come up with a good way to get the exhaust back up to
>Rotax specs. for the model 1thru 3?
>
>Dwight
>
>
>At 03:25 PM 2/20/2004 -0800, you wrote:
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <
>algate@attglobal.net >
> >
> >John
> >
> >The noise drop inside my plane was so apparent that everybody that
>flew in
> >it before has commented. I went from a 3 blade Ultralight IVOprop to a
>2
> >blade Medium Ivoprop which is considerably wider in chord and much
>more
> >robust.
> >
> >Maybe that is the reason for the noise reduction - I'm not sure but
>even my
> >radio works better now with the quieter cabin.
> >
> >regards
> >
> >Gary Algate
> >Lite2/582
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" < JDMCBEAN@cableone.net
> >
> >
> >As a general rule... a 3 blade prop will be quieter and will climb
>better.
> >A two blade will cruise better and be more efficient. This is
>providing
> >one is comparing similar props.
> >
> >Blue Skies!!
> >John & Debra McBean
> >"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
> ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >
> >
>
>
>--
>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
>believed to be clean.
>MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: M2 exhaust reroute pics |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rupert Tinker" <rutinker@saber.net>
Patricia, I also would like to see your photos and measurements, if any.
Like Rex, I also have Model II with a standard (not a blue head). Rupert
Tinker, Paradise, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: <rex@awarenest.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: M2 exhaust reroute pics
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rex@awarenest.com>
>
> Yes Patricia, I would like to see your pictures. I have a
> Model II with a standard 582 (not a blue head). What would
> be the difference for my exhaust?
>
> Rex
> N750GP
> South Park, CO.
>
>
> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 16:19:12 +0200
> "Patricia Truter" <PTruter@csir.co.za> wrote:
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Patricia Truter"
> ><PTruter@csir.co.za>
> >
> >We have managed to 'fold' up the exhaust (without
> >reducing the length)
> >of the 618 and the 582 (blue top) to fit into the KitFox
> >II Cowls. If
> >you want pictures, please let me know.
> >
> >Patricia
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Hey guys looking for some hand tools such as hand rivet squeezers, metal
punch and such. If there are any recommendations or maybe you have some
that you dont need anymore please contact me off-list.
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
John, I have the TATCO rived squeezer as found in the ACS catalog. It is a
work of art, though pricey. It should last several lifetimes. I love it.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tools
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
>
> Hey guys looking for some hand tools such as hand rivet squeezers, metal
> punch and such. If there are any recommendations or maybe you have some
> that you dont need anymore please contact me off-list.
>
> Blue Skies!!
> John & Debra McBean
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
>
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
DNA: do not archive
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