Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Fri 03/05/04


Total Messages Posted: 27



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     1. 01:52 AM - Re: Question about skis (michel)
     2. 01:59 AM - Re: French site, Foxpapa. (michel)
     3. 04:57 AM - Re: 912 Carbs Falling off (Bob Unternaehrer)
     4. 06:21 AM - Re: Question about skis (Gary Algate)
     5. 06:55 AM - Re: 912 Carbs Falling off (flier)
     6. 06:59 AM - Re: Tailwheel spring needed! (Lowell Fitt)
     7. 07:00 AM - some help... (hausding, sid)
     8. 07:59 AM - Re: 912 Carbs Falling off (Randy Daughenbaugh)
     9. 10:34 AM - Re: NSI Update (nealscherm@comcast.net)
    10. 12:05 PM - Re: NSI Update (jeff.hays@aselia.com)
    11. 12:56 PM - Re: Overheating 582 (Torgeir Mortensen)
    12. 01:02 PM - Re: NSI Update (Fox5flyer)
    13. 01:14 PM - Re: some help... (Torgeir Mortensen)
    14. 01:24 PM - Re: Question about skis (Michel Verheughe)
    15. 02:27 PM - Re: Overheating 582 (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
    16. 02:32 PM - Re: NSI Update (Lowell Fitt)
    17. 02:43 PM - Re: Tailwheel spring needed! (Bryan Lee Fisher)
    18. 02:52 PM - some help... (hausding, sid)
    19. 03:26 PM - Re: some help... (Bob Robertson)
    20. 03:28 PM - Radiator baffling (davestapa@juno.com)
    21. 04:28 PM - LED Nav. Lights (Steve Gandy)
    22. 06:35 PM - Re: NSI Update (JMCBEAN)
    23. 07:16 PM - Re: LED Nav. Lights (Bob Unternaehrer)
    24. 07:37 PM - Re: LED Nav. Lights (VFT@aol.com)
    25. 08:46 PM - Re: Radiator baffling (John E. King)
    26. 08:55 PM - Re: EJ-22 (kurt schrader)
    27. 10:36 PM - Re: M2 exhaust reroute pics (charles b cook)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:52:56 AM PST US
    From: michel <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Question about skis
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no> >===== Original Message From Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no> ===== >Just for everyone to see. >http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/ski.html Thank you Torgeir, Kirk, Scott and Bruce. Most interesting. I have a double bungee, each with their own attachment point so I think it will pull something betwen 20 and 40 lbs. The aft retainer gives me now 10 to 15 degrees up attitude but I think that I'll cut the cable to get something between 0 and 5. Thanks again everyone and expect photos by the end of the week-end. It will be fun testing and the WX forecast looks better and better. Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 01:59:58 AM PST US
    From: michel <michel@online.no>
    Subject: French site, Foxpapa.
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no> >===== Original Message From Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no> >http://www.foxpapa.com/ >(Hi Michel, what do you think.) Pas mal du tout! But I am already on the Yahoo ULM list, which seems much more active. FoxPapa is aimed at home-builders, and any kind of craft, even hot-air baloons. It's a real craftmanship list, there is even a guy there who carved his own propeller. Way above my capacities but ... cool! Or should I say: **LATIN_MODE_ON** Fantastique! extraordinaire! gnial! incroyable! tonnant! renversant! **LATIN_MODE_OFF** :-) Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 04:57:14 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
    Subject: Re: 912 Carbs Falling off
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> At a recent seminar, it was noted that there was a new carb mounting rubber sleeve that was heavier and that the tension on the clamp was important, see rotax spec. Also it is important that the individual carbs are bothe primed, full of fuel. To do this cranking the engine without ignition provides smoother starts. Bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 Carbs Falling off > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net> > > (posted for a pending list member) > > Hi Everybody > I've been reading the Avid forum website for some time and asked them for > advice about my 912 carbs. I have been advised to contact the Kitfox > mailing list as it would appear that a lot more of you guys are using 912 > engines. > I have just finished building my Avid C model hauler with most of the Mark > IV extras and a Rotax 912 engine. > > My problem is that sometimes when I start the engine, the engine shakes > violently and one or more of the carbs fall out of the carb sockets. I have > the extra support springs on top of the carbs and have replaced the sockets > with the new part no.s 267787. I note that Rotax have just this week > produced a new 267788 carb socket. > I am not the only person in New Zealand to have this problem and Rotax > agents in NZ and Australia initially told me the idle speed was wrong, I was > flooding the engine, something was out of balance etc etc etc. They now say > that the Avid engine mounts are too soft and that my engine is moving too > far. Has anybody else had this problem and has anybody invented an > additional support to help hold the carbs on a 912? I have not actually > flown my Avid yet but the thought of a carb nearly coming off on start up > and then dropping off in mid air is a little worrying! > > Cheers > Brian Leach > leach@wk.planet.gen.nz > > > --- > > ---


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    Time: 06:21:09 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
    Subject: Question about skis
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net> Michel I made my own tail ski from some aluminum brackets and a piece of Teflon. I used the tailwheel castoring mount and original bolt. I'll send you some photos.. A friend of mine still uses a tailwheel but his manoeuvrability on snow is nowhere as good as mine. Both work, but I prefer the tail ski. The rear limiting wires on the skis are just designed to ensure that the ski tips maintain a positive attitude when you take off but with my recent experience I see that they serve a dual purpose. Basically you need to ensure that they are long enough so that when you are taking off and the tail comes up the wires do not interfere with the attitude of the plane - this would be slightly nose down. Hope that makes sense? Best regards Gary Algate Lite/582 >>>>>> And a good thing it did. Now, how long should that wire be, as my initial question was? And while I am at it, what are your thoughts about a tailwheel ski? I really can't figure out how to fix that on a Maule tailwheel. Another thing is: How does it affect the pitching of the plane? Because it would be working like an elevator trim, right? I see that most Norwegian light planes on skis don't use tailwheel skis. That's ok when you land on e.g. frozen lakes. But what in deep snow? And what about deep soft snow covered by an icy crust? Doesn't it tear of the wheel, springs, etc? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Cheers, Michel


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    Time: 06:55:31 AM PST US
    From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: 912 Carbs Falling off
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net> Hey Brian, Two things. First, I'm assuming you're shaking the carbs out of the sockets and not splitting the rubber sockets. If so, you need the heavier set of sockets that are available. Second, even with the springs, Many of us have drilled a small hole in the web on the top of the carb and safety wired the carb to the elbow fittings on the intake with about 4 loops of safety wire. Seems to work fine. On an aside, my wife and I visited NZ (Auckland/Queenstown/Mount Cook, including of course AJ Hackett's Bungy and skiid the Tasman) and it was the best international trip we've ever taken. You Kiwis are just too friendly! Regards, Ted --- Original Message --- From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 Carbs Falling off >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net> > >(posted for a pending list member) > >Hi Everybody >I've been reading the Avid forum website for some time and asked them for >advice about my 912 carbs. I have been advised to contact the Kitfox >mailing list as it would appear that a lot more of you guys are using 912 >engines. >I have just finished building my Avid C model hauler with most of the Mark >IV extras and a Rotax 912 engine. > >My problem is that sometimes when I start the engine, the engine shakes >violently and one or more of the carbs fall out of the carb sockets. I have >the extra support springs on top of the carbs and have replaced the sockets >with the new part no.s 267787. I note that Rotax have just this week >produced a new 267788 carb socket. >I am not the only person in New Zealand to have this problem and Rotax >agents in NZ and Australia initially told me the idle speed was wrong, I was >flooding the engine, something was out of balance etc etc etc. They now say >that the Avid engine mounts are too soft and that my engine is moving too >far. Has anybody else had this problem and has anybody invented an >additional support to help hold the carbs on a 912? I have not actually >flown my Avid yet but the thought of a carb nearly coming off on start up >and then dropping off in mid air is a little worrying! > >Cheers >Brian Leach >leach@wk.planet.gen.nz > > >_- ====================================================== ================== Contributions any other Forums. >_- ====================================================== ================== >_- ====================================================== ================== http://www.matronics.com/subscription http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list http://www.matronics.com/archives http://www.matronics.com/photoshare list http://www.matronics.com/emaillists http://www.matronics.com/contribution >_- ====================================================== ================== > >


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    Time: 06:59:22 AM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel spring needed!
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com> Cliff, a friend used a spring from ACS. I don't know which one it was but it was a direct bolt on fit. I will send you his phone # off list. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Tailwheel spring needed! > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> > > Does anyone have a tailwheel spring lying aroung that you would sell to me? > Skystar has a new 3-leaf steel spring in testing right now and will have it > for sale soon, but I need one asap. I'll take aluminum or steel, doesn't > matter. > Thanks, > Cliff > 303-673-0021 > >


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    Time: 07:00:08 AM PST US
    From: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net>
    Subject: some help...
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net> Don't think so Bob, but check online with the Avid forum at: avid_flyer@yahoogroups.com ---------------------------------------------- We have a customer with an Avid Mk4.. He is interested in switching from the 582 to a new Rtx 912. We are wondering if the engine mount for the Kitfox is the same as the one for the Avid? Thanks Bob Robertson


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    Time: 07:59:29 AM PST US
    From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
    Subject: 912 Carbs Falling off
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> One of the other replies touched on this, but here is an excerpt from historic post. Clint has solved the violent start, but it requires the ability to crank with the mags off. "Here is how I now start my engine, every time. I have seperated switches for Ign A & B. I fully close the throttle, pull the choke and crank the engine with Ign's off. As long as 10 sec. Wait 40 seconds or so, open the throttle about 1 1/2 turns on venier throttle. Crank the engine and it starts instanly and is running about 2500 to 3000 rpm's and very smooth. If the engine starts to shake at all and does not start, will repeat the process. Too many broken engine mounts (my observation) I do not have the shortened spacers, I think that it couples too much energy to the area that can be broken. Clint Bazzill 800 hrs 912ULS Model IV." Randy . -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Pearsall Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 Carbs Falling off --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net> (posted for a pending list member) Hi Everybody I've been reading the Avid forum website for some time and asked them for advice about my 912 carbs. I have been advised to contact the Kitfox mailing list as it would appear that a lot more of you guys are using 912 engines. I have just finished building my Avid C model hauler with most of the Mark IV extras and a Rotax 912 engine. My problem is that sometimes when I start the engine, the engine shakes violently and one or more of the carbs fall out of the carb sockets. I have the extra support springs on top of the carbs and have replaced the sockets with the new part no.s 267787. I note that Rotax have just this week produced a new 267788 carb socket. I am not the only person in New Zealand to have this problem and Rotax agents in NZ and Australia initially told me the idle speed was wrong, I was flooding the engine, something was out of balance etc etc etc. They now say that the Avid engine mounts are too soft and that my engine is moving too far. Has anybody else had this problem and has anybody invented an additional support to help hold the carbs on a 912? I have not actually flown my Avid yet but the thought of a carb nearly coming off on start up and then dropping off in mid air is a little worrying! Cheers Brian Leach leach@wk.planet.gen.nz


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    Time: 10:34:09 AM PST US
    From: nealscherm@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: NSI Update
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: nealscherm@comcast.net Just for your info, I have installed an EJ-22 Big Soob engine in a Vixen and will have a lighter empty and nose wheel weight than a IO-240. The engine fits inside a standard Series 7 912/914 cowl and is incredibly powerful at low rpms. It can be done.... With off the shelf parts. At a reasonable price. If any one wants a picture, just let me know offline. In the very near future, I would like to see if one of the little motors can keep up. I'm sure John will be up to it. How about we stage a race between the different powerplants out there and see for ourselves? Regards, Neal


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    Time: 12:05:36 PM PST US
    From: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
    Subject: Re: NSI Update
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com> I rode in one powered with an NSI Turbo, it was a really smooth running installation. I was pretty impressed. The same plane was on NSI engine number two (first one broke?), and the second one had a second set of cylinder heads (burned valves). The owner is a tinkerer, and loves his plane. He's on exhaust system number 2 or three I think. To look at the installation, it looks nice, but it spends a lot of time cowl off with parts all over. Myself I prefer aircraft engines. Just seems like the auto conversions spend a lot of time being worked on. Plus you can push the throttle to redline in a (Lyc, Cont, etc.) and leave it there until TBO, while making full power the entire time. I think the typical O-235 powered C152 flight trainer says a lot about aircraft engines. Jeff Original Message: ----------------- From: nealscherm@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Update --> Kitfox-List message posted by: nealscherm@comcast.net Just for your info, I have installed an EJ-22 Big Soob engine in a Vixen and will have a lighter empty and nose wheel weight than a IO-240. The engine fits inside a standard Series 7 912/914 cowl and is incredibly powerful at low rpms. It can be done.... With off the shelf parts. At a reasonable price. If any one wants a picture, just let me know offline. In the very near future, I would like to see if one of the little motors can keep up. I'm sure John will be up to it. How about we stage a race between the different powerplants out there and see for ourselves? Regards, Neal


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    Time: 12:56:12 PM PST US
    From: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Overheating 582
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no> Yes, and yes-. Originally the 532 was delivered without a thermostat. This is due to the statement in the maintenance manual; about max. allowed difference in the water temp between water in/out ports in the engine. This difference must not be more than 6 deg. Celsius! I've mentioned this before, but "no one" seems to take notice of this "Rotax req.". I know, most people run with the thermostat and have good experience here, but there is quiet some examples of seizure due to faulty thermostat. Well... I'm one of those- still flying without the thermostat, the reason is: During winter flying, when you "pull" back the throttle- there is little "heated" water with engine temperature in the cooling system, so the water temp. quickly drop low during approach. Without thermostat, the circulating water has more heat energy accumulated (of course, I'll cover the radiator), so now the water temperature did not "fall off" that fast. The "downside" with my setup is that I'll need twice the warm-up time vs. thermostat setup. Also, without a thermostat, the engine is more evenly heated- and has better flow.. Also, if the temp go a little against the upper part of the scale (if to much of the rad is covered under hotter conditions), I'll just turn on the heater fan and the water temperature immediately drop to a more comfortable level. I have two friends got their engine "seized" due to a broken thermostat! I'm using a "textile" tape to adjust the effective cooling area on the rad. I'll try to keep my water temp a little above 160 deg. F. The first modification the "snow-scoter racing people" will do, with their new -say "Skido", is to throw out the thermostat! This-, due to the trouble this device make for them. IMO. Torgeir. dwight purdy wrote: > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: dwight purdy <dpurdy@comteck.com> > > When I first bought my 532 model II there was no thermostat. In the heat of > the summer it barely reached 180 deg. Most the time only 170 to 175. I put > an after market stat in for the benefit of winter warm ups and more even > temps when cold out. Must be allot more flow with it out. > > Dwight > > At 09:07 PM 3/4/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tc9008@aol.com > > > >Today it was nice about 75. My cooling system was close to 200 on take off > >and climb. On cruise it cooled down to 180. What will happen when the temp > >gets > >to 90? Anyone got any ideas? > > > > >


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    Time: 01:02:16 PM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Re: NSI Update
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> Very interesting Neal. This is what "experimental" is all about. Maybe you could post some pics on Sportflight.com/uploads for all of us to see. There're a lot of dedicated Soob drivers here and all would be interested. Good luck and keep us posted on your progress. Darrel > Just for your info, > I have installed an EJ-22 Big Soob engine in a Vixen and will have a lighter empty and nose wheel weight than a IO-240. The engine fits inside a standard Series 7 912/914 cowl and is incredibly powerful at low rpms. It can be done.... With off the shelf parts. At a reasonable price. If any one wants a picture, just let me know offline. > In the very near future, I would like to see if one of the little motors can keep up. I'm sure John will be up to it. How about we stage a race between the different powerplants out there and see for ourselves? > Regards, > Neal


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    Time: 01:14:46 PM PST US
    From: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
    Subject: Re: some help...
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no> Hi Sid, I have measured the attaching on the engine mount (582) removed from a mod 4/1050, this Fox is now equip. with a 912S. There is five attachment, two at the top, two in the middle and one in the bottom. Between the two upper the distance is; 13 3/16". Between the two middle the distance is; 29 1/2". From each of the two upper to the bottom is; 21". Between the two upper right is; 12 3/8". (Same for the other side) Between the middle right and bottom is; 18 1/8". (Same for the other side). Torgeir. "hausding, sid" wrote: > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net> > > Don't think so Bob, but check online with the Avid forum at: > avid_flyer@yahoogroups.com > ---------------------------------------------- > > We have a customer with an Avid Mk4.. He is interested in > switching from the 582 to a new Rtx 912. We are wondering if the > engine mount for the Kitfox is the same as the one for the Avid? > > Thanks > > Bob Robertson >


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    Time: 01:24:29 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Question about skis
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Gary Algate wrote: > I made my own tail ski from some aluminum brackets and a piece of Teflon. I > used the tailwheel castoring mount and original bolt. I'll send you some > photos.. Yes, please, photos could be nice. Do you have the Maule tailwheel? Do you remove the wheel and its arm from the mount then? Without the wheel you can't use it on asphalt then, right? What I am afraid of is e.g. taxiing in deep soft snow, with the entire tailwheel under the snow with a crusty iced top ripping the fuselage. To avoid that, I have an idea tonight that I might laugh at tommorow, in the hangar, but ... what about a kind of plate of teflon fixed at the two tubes that are made for the dorsal fin? It won't move with the tail but it will protect the fuselage in deep snow. > to ensure that the ski tips maintain a positive attitude when you take off but > with my recent experience I see that they serve a dual purpose. Yes, I can see that now, Gary. Thanks for sharing that experience. Cheers, Michel


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    Time: 02:27:48 PM PST US
    From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Overheating 582
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 3/4/04 6:09:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, Tc9008@aol.com writes: > Today it was nice about 75. My cooling system was close to 200 on take off > and climb. On cruise it cooled down to 180. What will happen when the temp > gets > to 90? Anyone got any ideas? > > Don't understand 90 ??? but the other numbers are way to hot to fly with. Don Smythe DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 02:32:02 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
    Subject: Re: NSI Update
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com> I think this is a great idea. A little head to head for some real number comparisons. Keeping in mind the always present drag and drag reduction efforts. Since John is in Idaho, and is familiar with the back country, maybe some short field, High altitude stuff included also. Maybe he could lead a flight in and out. It would be fun to watch. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: <nealscherm@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Update > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: nealscherm@comcast.net > > Just for your info, > I have installed an EJ-22 Big Soob engine in a Vixen and will have a lighter empty and nose wheel weight than a IO-240. The engine fits inside a standard Series 7 912/914 cowl and is incredibly powerful at low rpms. It can be done.... With off the shelf parts. At a reasonable price. If any one wants a picture, just let me know offline. > In the very near future, I would like to see if one of the little motors can keep up. I'm sure John will be up to it. How about we stage a race between the different powerplants out there and see for ourselves? > Regards, > Neal > >


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    Time: 02:43:12 PM PST US
    From: "Bryan Lee Fisher" <fisher@osprey.net>
    Subject: Re: Tailwheel spring needed!
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bryan Lee Fisher" <fisher@osprey.net> Cliff I have a grove alluminum spring and hardware if you are interested contact me off list. Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Tailwheel spring needed! > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> > > Does anyone have a tailwheel spring lying aroung that you would sell to me? > Skystar has a new 3-leaf steel spring in testing right now and will have it > for sale soon, but I need one asap. I'll take aluminum or steel, doesn't > matter. > Thanks, > Cliff > 303-673-0021 > >


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    Time: 02:52:52 PM PST US
    From: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net>
    Subject: some help...
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@Charter.net> Thanks Torgie old boy, got the measurements and hope the interested parties are listening in. I will pass this on to the Avid guy..........maybe Bob is here now and has this already to make a comparison. We have to keep you and Mikey busy flying, you both spend too much time on the jobs with this email stuff! :-) Wish my job was at a desk with internet capabilities!!!!!!!! I'm waiting for warmer weather to fire my 582 up and go taxi testing and follow in the steps and hallowed halls of you Kfox and Avid drivers. I need to go flying badly.............. Sid -------------------------------- I have measured the attaching on the engine mount (582) removed from a mod 4/1050, this Fox is now equip. with a 912S. There is five attachment, two at the top, two in the middle and one in the bottom. Between the two upper the distance is; 13 3/16". Between the two middle the distance is; 29 1/2". =46rom each of the two upper to the bottom is; 21". Between the two upper right is; 12 3/8". (Same for the other side) Between the middle right and bottom is; 18 1/8". (Same for the other side). Torgeir. "hausding, sid" wrote: > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net> > > Don't think so Bob, but check online with the Avid forum at: > avid_flyer@yahoogroups.com > ---------------------------------------------- > > We have a customer with an Avid Mk4.. He is interested in > switching from the 582 to a new Rtx 912. We are wondering if the > engine mount for the Kitfox is the same as the one for the Avid? > > Thanks > > Bob Robertson >


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    Time: 03:26:06 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Robertson" <aerocon@telusplanet.net>
    Subject: Re: some help...
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <aerocon@telusplanet.net> Torgier and Sid..... Thank you --Thank you --Thank you.--- That info will help immensley..... Can now do a comparision. Thanks again Bob Robertson ----- Original Message ----- From: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: some help... > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@Charter.net> > > Thanks Torgie old boy, > got the measurements and hope the interested parties are listening in. I > will pass this on to the Avid guy..........maybe Bob is here now and has > this already to make a comparison. > We have to keep you and Mikey busy flying, you both spend too much time on > the jobs with this email stuff! > :-) > Wish my job was at a desk with internet capabilities!!!!!!!! > I'm waiting for warmer weather to fire my 582 up and go taxi testing and > follow in the steps and hallowed halls of you Kfox and Avid drivers. I need > to go flying badly.............. > Sid > -------------------------------- > > > I have measured the attaching on the engine mount (582) removed from a > mod 4/1050, this Fox is now equip. with a 912S. > > There is five attachment, two at the top, two in the middle and one in > the bottom. > > Between the two upper the distance is; 13 3/16". > > Between the two middle the distance is; 29 1/2". > > =46rom each of the two upper to the bottom is; 21". > > Between the two upper right is; 12 3/8". (Same for the other side) > > Between the middle right and bottom is; 18 1/8". (Same for the other > side). > > > Torgeir. > > > "hausding, sid" wrote: > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net> > > > > Don't think so Bob, but check online with the Avid forum at: > > avid_flyer@yahoogroups.com > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > We have a customer with an Avid Mk4.. He is interested in > > switching from the 582 to a new Rtx 912. We are wondering if the > > engine mount for the Kitfox is the same as the one for the Avid? > > > > Thanks > > > > Bob Robertson > > > >


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    Time: 03:28:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Radiator baffling
    From: davestapa@juno.com
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: davestapa@juno.com I'm installing the radiator baffling in my Series 5 with smooth cowl, 912S. The drawings and instructions are weak in this area. Does anyone with this set up have some good pictures that might help. Skystar's website has the 7 pics but it is different from the 5 & 6 set up. I think I've about got it figured out, but want to be sure before I start drilling. David Estapa Woodstock, GA S5 N97DE Final Assembly


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    Time: 04:28:09 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Gandy" <s.gandy@comcast.net>
    Subject: LED Nav. Lights
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Gandy" <s.gandy@comcast.net> Hi List Myself and a friend are each building a Kitfox S-6 and S-7 and are looking for low amp LED Nav Lights and clear lens for the wing tip. Any help would be appreciated. Steve Gandy s.gandy@comcast.net Aeronca L-3C N48540 Kitfox 6 N540KF (Building)


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    Time: 06:35:49 PM PST US
    From: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
    Subject: NSI Update
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net> Did I sense a we bit of a challenge...... You bet Neal should be a lot of fun..... I'm fairly certain Cliff with the Lyc would love to join in... especially when talking about high density and short fields.... I really don't care why we go... just that we have lots of fun doing it. What do you mean watch Lowell..... You know years ago.... I had a guy with a Harley Sportster want to race me. I was only running my little Honda 400 Supersport... I told him that I would gladly race him as far as he wanted to go... but he couldn't bring any tools.... LOL Blue Skies!! John & Debra McBean "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of nealscherm@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Update --> Kitfox-List message posted by: nealscherm@comcast.net Just for your info, I have installed an EJ-22 Big Soob engine in a Vixen and will have a lighter empty and nose wheel weight than a IO-240. The engine fits inside a standard Series 7 912/914 cowl and is incredibly powerful at low rpms. It can be done.... With off the shelf parts. At a reasonable price. If any one wants a picture, just let me know offline. In the very near future, I would like to see if one of the little motors can keep up. I'm sure John will be up to it. How about we stage a race between the different powerplants out there and see for ourselves? Regards, Neal


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    Time: 07:16:55 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
    Subject: Re: LED Nav. Lights
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> JC Whitney has a real SEXY one that fits a standard auto socket (1051 isn't it) Cost $25, but rotates, flashes and a whole bunch of things If I didn't have strobes, I'd buy a couple. Bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Gandy" <s.gandy@comcast.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: LED Nav. Lights > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Gandy" <s.gandy@comcast.net> > > Hi List > > Myself and a friend are each building a Kitfox S-6 and S-7 and are > looking for low amp LED Nav Lights and clear lens for the wing tip. Any > help would be appreciated. > > Steve Gandy > s.gandy@comcast.net > Aeronca L-3C N48540 > Kitfox 6 N540KF (Building) > > > --- > > ---


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    Time: 07:37:21 PM PST US
    From: VFT@aol.com
    Subject: Re: LED Nav. Lights
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: VFT@aol.com Check out www.creativair.com Danny Melnik F1 #25 Melbourne (FL) Rocket Factory


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    Time: 08:46:06 PM PST US
    From: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
    Subject: Re: Radiator baffling
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com> Dave, I send you a couple pictures to you directly. DO NOT ARCHIVE. -- John King Warrenton, VA davestapa@juno.com wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: davestapa@juno.com > >I'm installing the radiator baffling in my Series 5 with smooth cowl, >912S. The drawings and instructions are weak in this area. Does anyone >with this set up have some good pictures that might help. Skystar's >website has the 7 pics but it is different from the 5 & 6 set up. I think >I've about got it figured out, but want to be sure before I start >drilling. > >David Estapa >Woodstock, GA >S5 N97DE Final Assembly > > > >


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    Time: 08:55:59 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: EJ-22
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Hi Neal, I would like to know more about your installation, including pictures. I do believe that is an outstanding engine you have, and if you have made it fit, you should do very well indeed. Would it be OK to pass your info on to NSI? I would really like to see them provide a KF package with the EJ-22 instead of the EA-81. Kurt S. --- nealscherm@comcast.net wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: > nealscherm@comcast.net > > Just for your info, > I have installed an EJ-22 Big Soob engine in a Vixen > and will have a lighter empty and nose wheel weight > than a IO-240. The engine fits inside a standard > Series 7 912/914 cowl and is incredibly powerful at > low rpms. It can be done.... With off the shelf > parts. At a reasonable price. If any one wants a > picture, just let me know offline. > In the very near future, I would like to see if one > of the little motors can keep up. I'm sure John will > be up to it. How about we stage a race between the > different powerplants out there and see for > ourselves? > Regards, > Neal __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com


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    Time: 10:36:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: M2 exhaust reroute pics
    From: charles b cook <cookflys@juno.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: charles b cook <cookflys@juno.com> Patricia If you don't mind clue me in on the pictures. I guess you need your own web site. Charles Cook Mod II On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 15:39:54 -0800 "Rupert Tinker" <rutinker@saber.net> writes: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rupert Tinker" > <rutinker@saber.net> > > Patricia, I also would like to see your photos and measurements, if > any. > Like Rex, I also have Model II with a standard (not a blue head). > Rupert > Tinker, Paradise, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rex@awarenest.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>; <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Kitfox-List: M2 exhaust reroute pics > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rex@awarenest.com> > > > > Yes Patricia, I would like to see your pictures. I have a > > Model II with a standard 582 (not a blue head). What would > > be the difference for my exhaust? > > > > Rex > > N750GP > > South Park, CO. > > > > > > On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 16:19:12 +0200 > > "Patricia Truter" <PTruter@csir.co.za> wrote: > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Patricia Truter" > > ><PTruter@csir.co.za> > > > > > >We have managed to 'fold' up the exhaust (without > > >reducing the length) > > >of the 618 and the 582 (blue top) to fit into the KitFox > > >II Cowls. If > > >you want pictures, please let me know. > > > > > >Patricia > > > > > > > = > = > = > = > > > > > >




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