Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Mon 03/08/04


Total Messages Posted: 53



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     1. 12:12 AM - Re: Economy wheel covers (kurt schrader)
     2. 02:07 AM - Re: 3M Glue (broschart)
     3. 04:11 AM - Re: Economy wheel covers (KITFOXZ@aol.com)
     4. 04:37 AM - Re: ACS Vender (Jim Burke)
     5. 07:31 AM - Re: ACS Vender (Don Pearsall)
     6. 07:40 AM - Re: ACS Vender (Bill Pleso)
     7. 08:00 AM - Re: Transponder installation. (John E. King)
     8. 08:15 AM - Re: ACS Vender (jeff.hays@aselia.com)
     9. 08:17 AM - Re: Transponder installation. (jeff.hays@aselia.com)
    10. 08:41 AM - Re: Transponder installation. (John E. King)
    11. 08:43 AM - Re: ACS Vender (Bruce Harrington)
    12. 08:58 AM - Cowl (Bill Pleso)
    13. 08:58 AM - Re: Transponder installation. (jeff.hays@aselia.com)
    14. 09:03 AM - "Surge Supressor Diode" on Starter Solenoid ??? (Randy Daughenbaugh)
    15. 09:18 AM - Re: ACS Vender (Marc Arseneault)
    16. 09:22 AM - Re: Surge Supressor Diode on Starter Solenoid ??? (jeff.hays@aselia.com)
    17. 09:41 AM - Re: Cowl (Dee Young)
    18. 11:16 AM - Re: New skis tested (Scott McClintock)
    19. 12:18 PM - Re: Antennas and ground planes (Michel Verheughe)
    20. 12:19 PM - Re: "Surge Supressor Diode" on Starter Solenoid ??? (Dave & Wendy Grosvenor)
    21. 12:21 PM - Pressure testing WAS Ski testing day (Michel Verheughe)
    22. 12:26 PM - Re: Ski testing day (Michel Verheughe)
    23. 12:29 PM - Plastic Raditor elbow connector?:  (Harris, Robert)
    24. 12:33 PM - Re: Antennas and ground planes (Ted Palamarek)
    25. 12:39 PM - plastic radiator elbows (Harris, Robert)
    26. 12:40 PM - Re: ACS Vender (Jim Burke)
    27. 12:42 PM - Re: New skis tested (Michel Verheughe)
    28. 01:32 PM - 582 oil injection cable (charles b cook)
    29. 01:33 PM - Re: plastic radiator elbows (Marc Arseneault)
    30. 01:36 PM - Cargo Pod (Dee Young)
    31. 02:03 PM - Re: 582 oil injection cable (Marc Arseneault)
    32. 02:13 PM - Re: Door Cylinders (Marc Arseneault)
    33. 02:20 PM - Re: Plastic Raditor elbow connector?:  (Jim Burke)
    34. 02:24 PM - Michel's Skis (Scott McClintock)
    35. 02:36 PM - Re: Plastic Raditor elbow connector?:  (Marc Arseneault)
    36. 02:39 PM - Re: Cowl (Bob Unternaehrer)
    37. 02:54 PM - Re: Cargo Pod (daniel johnson)
    38. 02:59 PM - Re: Re: Door Cylinders (daniel johnson)
    39. 03:00 PM - Re: Antennas and ground planes (Ted Palamarek)
    40. 04:10 PM - Re: Cowl (Bill Pleso)
    41. 04:39 PM - Sport Pilot rating (Dee Young)
    42. 05:51 PM - Re: Sport Pilot rating (Steve Cooper)
    43. 05:59 PM - Re: Sport Pilot rating (Dee Young)
    44. 06:09 PM - Re: Sport Pilot rating (Steve Cooper)
    45. 07:21 PM - Re: Doors (david yeamans)
    46. 07:34 PM - Re: Sport Pilot rating (Steve M)
    47. 08:13 PM - Sport Pilot rating (RiteAngle3@aol.com)
    48. 08:15 PM - Re: Sport Pilot rating (RiteAngle3@aol.com)
    49. 08:22 PM - Re: Plastic Raditor elbow connector?:  (Bruce Harrington)
    50. 08:41 PM - Re: Sport Pilot rating (Steve Cooper)
    51. 10:56 PM - Re: plastic radiator elbows (kurt schrader)
    52. 11:13 PM - Re: Antennas and ground planes (kurt schrader)
    53. 11:18 PM - Re: Ski testing day (kurt schrader)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:12:27 AM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Economy wheel covers
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> To the List, I just noticed today that ACS has moon caps for the 6x6 Clevland wheels for $9.95 each. Has anyone bought these and tried them yet? I thought for that price it might be worth trying. That is $3 for the part and $7 for it being aviation, right? Kurt S. __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com


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    Time: 02:07:12 AM PST US
    From: broschart <cfbflyer@localnet.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:3M Glue
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: broschart <cfbflyer@localnet.com> take that easily with with a grain of salt but they will come off un damaged Have a good day - Charlie VFT@aol.com wrote: > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: VFT@aol.com > > If you heat the glue with a heat gun it will soften and the parts will come off easily. I helped a fellow builder (who had built two left wings) pull one of his wings apart this way and we saved nearly all of the parts. > > Danny Melnik > Kitfox N24ZM > F1 #25 > Melbourne (FL) Rocket Factory >


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    Time: 04:11:24 AM PST US
    From: KITFOXZ@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Economy wheel covers
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXZ@aol.com In a message dated 3/8/2004 3:13:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com writes: That is $3 for the part and $7 for it being aviation, right? Right! It works out to a dollar a day service life as they will probably rust in 3 days! Someone has to try a pair and report back that they can be a good deal if they are waxed or polyurethaned well. : ) John P. Marzluf Columbus, Ohio Outback, (out back in the garage)


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    Time: 04:37:36 AM PST US
    From: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: ACS Vender
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com> I have noticed in a couple of messages in the last couple of days a vender called ACS. Who are they? James E. Burke (N94JE) -------Original Message------- From: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Economy wheel covers --> Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXZ@aol.com In a message dated 3/8/2004 3:13:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com writes: That is $3 for the part and $7 for it being aviation, right? Right! It works out to a dollar a day service life as they will probably rust in 3 days! Someone has to try a pair and report back that they can be a good deal if they are waxed or polyurethaned well. : ) John P. Marzluf Columbus, Ohio Outback, (out back in the garage)


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    Time: 07:31:59 AM PST US
    From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
    Subject: ACS Vender
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net> ACS = Aircraft Spruce and Specialty Company. Hmmm Now why do they prefer ACS over the acronym A.S.S.?? Don Pearsall


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    Time: 07:40:12 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: ACS Vender
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net> called ACS. Who are they? Jim, Unless there's some other company that I'm unaware of, ACS is Aircraft Spruce. If it was ever used on an airplane, Aircraft Spruce probably has it in their catalog (the catalog is free, and the prices are hard to beat). Bill do not archive


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    Time: 08:00:05 AM PST US
    From: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
    Subject: Re: Transponder installation.
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com> To Lowell, Kirk & Others, This past week I had a very interesting experience with the effective use of an antenna ground plane. It was not related to my Kitfox, but with my cell phone. My house is located in an area where the cell phone reception is non existent without the aid of an antenna. Right across the street is a mountain that restricts cell phone reception. I purchased a Radio Shake cell phone antenna for my truck with a magnetic base that really improves cell phone reception. When I wanted to make a cell phone call from my home, I would back the truck out of the garage and make the call. The signal strength was 3 bars on the cell phone which was just adequate to make a cell phone call. Since that worked, I purchased another cell phone antenna from Radio Shack along with an extra length cable. I decided to run some tests without and with an antenna ground plane with the antenna mounted on the garage roof. I made the ground plane out of galvanized sheet metal ( 20" diameter) so that it would work with the magnetic base of the antenna. The results shown below were while I was standing outside using my cell phone. 1. Cell phone without an antenna: Signal strength = zero to one bar (no communication) 2. Cell phone with only the antenna: Signal strength = 3 bars (minimal to adequate communication) 3. Cell phone with antenna & ground plane = 4 to 5 bars (good communication) So, I can now make cell phone calls inside my house with good signal strength. That saves me money since, I no longer have to pay extra for long distance calls using my house phone. -- John King Warrenton, VA Lowell Fitt wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com> > >This ground plane idea has always posed questions in my mind. Ham radio >operators using vertical antennas can't possibly create a ground plane of >solid metal to the dimensions needed so they usually bury a number of >radials in the ground to the diameter needed. I put no ground planes under >any of my antennas. In the group I fly with, I am told that my signal is >among the best of the group. It is my feeling that the tubular structure of >the airframe acts very much like the "radials" that Ham radio operators use. > >Further, the dissimilar metals idea that Kurt mentioned would seem to >eliminate an aluminum sheet as an appropriate ground plane. We lived in a >house for 16 years with aluminum wiring. flickering lights and buzzing light >switches was the norm. I would suggest, if a ground plane was felt >necessary, that some of the adhesive copper tape used by the stained glass >people could be applied to the underside of the fabric in a radial pattern - >maybe a dozen or so - all soldered to a brass washer of the appropriate >diameter to fit the antenna post which would help avoid the possible >electrolysis effect of dissimilar metals. > >Lowell >----- Original Message ----- >From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Transponder installation. > > > > >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader >> >> ><smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > >>Daniel, >> >>I agree with John. In particular, you should make >>sure the grounds are good enough to last a long time. >>They will tend to corrode from the electrical signal >>from the radio, if not solid. Using different metals >>will make that more likely, and most mounts have more >>than one type metal involved. >> >>Since it is for the xponder, which uses a single >>frequency to transmit on, the ground plane can be a >>circle the same radius as the antenna, or twice the >>antenna in diameter. That should be about 6". You >>are right. The antenna goes smack in the middle. >> >>Kurt S. >> >> >>


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    Time: 08:15:05 AM PST US
    From: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
    Subject: Re: ACS Vender
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com> Hi Bill - Actually I think Wick's beats Spruce pricewise most of the time. http://www.wicksaircraft.com However Spruce does have the BIGGEST list of stuff. Jeff Original Message: ----------------- From: Bill Pleso bill77@cox.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: ACS Vender --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net> called ACS. Who are they? Jim, Unless there's some other company that I'm unaware of, ACS is Aircraft Spruce. If it was ever used on an airplane, Aircraft Spruce probably has it in their catalog (the catalog is free, and the prices are hard to beat). Bill do not archive


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    Time: 08:17:56 AM PST US
    From: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
    Subject: Re: Transponder installation.
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com> Galvanized Steel, 20" diameter??? Sounds like a garbage can lid. Hey - Great idea!! Make cell phone antenna's with trash can lids, and you can be the high tech equiv of Braveheart! Original Message: ----------------- From: John E. King kingjohn@erols.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Transponder installation. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com> To Lowell, Kirk & Others, This past week I had a very interesting experience with the effective use of an antenna ground plane. It was not related to my Kitfox, but with my cell phone. My house is located in an area where the cell phone reception is non existent without the aid of an antenna. Right across the street is a mountain that restricts cell phone reception. I purchased a Radio Shake cell phone antenna for my truck with a magnetic base that really improves cell phone reception. When I wanted to make a cell phone call from my home, I would back the truck out of the garage and make the call. The signal strength was 3 bars on the cell phone which was just adequate to make a cell phone call. Since that worked, I purchased another cell phone antenna from Radio Shack along with an extra length cable. I decided to run some tests without and with an antenna ground plane with the antenna mounted on the garage roof. I made the ground plane out of galvanized sheet metal ( 20" diameter) so that it would work with the magnetic base of the antenna. The results shown below were while I was standing outside using my cell phone. 1. Cell phone without an antenna: Signal strength = zero to one bar (no communication) 2. Cell phone with only the antenna: Signal strength = 3 bars (minimal to adequate communication) 3. Cell phone with antenna & ground plane = 4 to 5 bars (good communication) So, I can now make cell phone calls inside my house with good signal strength. That saves me money since, I no longer have to pay extra for long distance calls using my house phone. -- John King Warrenton, VA Lowell Fitt wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com> > >This ground plane idea has always posed questions in my mind. Ham radio >operators using vertical antennas can't possibly create a ground plane of >solid metal to the dimensions needed so they usually bury a number of >radials in the ground to the diameter needed. I put no ground planes under >any of my antennas. In the group I fly with, I am told that my signal is >among the best of the group. It is my feeling that the tubular structure of >the airframe acts very much like the "radials" that Ham radio operators use. > >Further, the dissimilar metals idea that Kurt mentioned would seem to >eliminate an aluminum sheet as an appropriate ground plane. We lived in a >house for 16 years with aluminum wiring. flickering lights and buzzing light >switches was the norm. I would suggest, if a ground plane was felt >necessary, that some of the adhesive copper tape used by the stained glass >people could be applied to the underside of the fabric in a radial pattern - >maybe a dozen or so - all soldered to a brass washer of the appropriate >diameter to fit the antenna post which would help avoid the possible >electrolysis effect of dissimilar metals. > >Lowell >----- Original Message ----- >From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Transponder installation. > > > > >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader >> >> ><smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > >>Daniel, >> >>I agree with John. In particular, you should make >>sure the grounds are good enough to last a long time. >>They will tend to corrode from the electrical signal >>from the radio, if not solid. Using different metals >>will make that more likely, and most mounts have more >>than one type metal involved. >> >>Since it is for the xponder, which uses a single >>frequency to transmit on, the ground plane can be a >>circle the same radius as the antenna, or twice the >>antenna in diameter. That should be about 6". You >>are right. The antenna goes smack in the middle. >> >>Kurt S. >> >> >>


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    Time: 08:41:35 AM PST US
    From: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
    Subject: Re: Transponder installation.
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com> Jeff, A garbage can lid might work just fine, but all of my neighbors would be calling me up to say my missing garbage can lid was sitting on top of my garage roof. :-( DO NOT ARCHIVE -- John King Warrenton, VA jeff.hays@aselia.com wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com> > > >Galvanized Steel, 20" diameter??? Sounds like a garbage can >lid. Hey - Great idea!! Make cell phone antenna's with trash >can lids, and you can be the high tech equiv of Braveheart! > >Original Message: >----------------- >From: John E. King kingjohn@erols.com >Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 11:07:28 -0500 >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Transponder installation. > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com> > >To Lowell, Kirk & Others, > >This past week I had a very interesting experience with the effective >use of an antenna ground plane. It was not related to my Kitfox, but >with my cell phone. My house is located in an area where the cell phone >reception is non existent without the aid of an antenna. Right across >the street is a mountain that restricts cell phone reception. I >purchased a Radio Shake cell phone antenna for my truck with a magnetic >base that really improves cell phone reception. When I wanted to make a >cell phone call from my home, I would back the truck out of the garage >and make the call. The signal strength was 3 bars on the cell phone >which was just adequate to make a cell phone call. > >Since that worked, I purchased another cell phone antenna from Radio >Shack along with an extra length cable. I decided to run some tests >without and with an antenna ground plane with the antenna mounted on >the garage roof. I made the ground plane out of galvanized sheet metal >( 20" diameter) so that it would work with the magnetic base of the >antenna. The results shown below were while I was standing outside >using my cell phone. > >1. Cell phone without an antenna: Signal strength = zero to one bar >(no communication) >2. Cell phone with only the antenna: Signal strength = 3 bars (minimal >to adequate communication) >3. Cell phone with antenna & ground plane = 4 to 5 bars (good >communication) > >So, I can now make cell phone calls inside my house with good signal >strength. That saves me money since, I no longer have to pay extra for >long distance calls using my house phone. > > >


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    Time: 08:43:50 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
    Subject: Re: ACS Vender
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net> I used both Wicks and ACS for my Sonex hardware and misc. parts. ACS for most parts/hardware due to lower than Wicks prices there from 2001-2003. I used Wicks for items ACS did not carry. I have both catalogs and compare prices before I buy. Both are very good companies to deal with. Prices at both may vary from the catalogs due to unpredictable conditions. Check online before final buy. bh > Hi Bill - > > Actually I think Wick's beats Spruce pricewise most of the time. > http://www.wicksaircraft.com However Spruce does have the BIGGEST > list of stuff. > > Jeff


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    Time: 08:58:33 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net>
    Subject: Cowl
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net> To all Rotax 912 users, I mentioned earlier that I have a classic IV 4 pc. cowl for sale in new condition. I was contacted by a gentleman who is using a Rotax 912 about the cowl as to whether or not it would fit. The cowl came with a 10 yr. old (unbuilt) kit along with a Mosler VW conversion. I don't know if the cowl came from Skystar (then Denney's) or from Mosler. If someone else who is using a 912 could share some critical measurements on their cowl, then we would know what it would fit. Thanks. Bill do not archive


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    Time: 08:58:40 AM PST US
    From: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
    Subject: Re: Transponder installation.
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com> Hi John - Actually I was sitting here at my desk laughing, when imagining people walking down the street with a trash can lid in one hand and a cellphone at their ear. :) Especially here in the heart of the big city where I work (4 blocks from the Sear's Tower in downtown Chicago). Jeff DO NOT ARCHIVE Original Message: ----------------- From: John E. King kingjohn@erols.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Transponder installation. --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com> Jeff, A garbage can lid might work just fine, but all of my neighbors would be calling me up to say my missing garbage can lid was sitting on top of my garage roof. :-( DO NOT ARCHIVE -- John King Warrenton, VA jeff.hays@aselia.com wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com> > > >Galvanized Steel, 20" diameter??? Sounds like a garbage can >lid. Hey - Great idea!! Make cell phone antenna's with trash >can lids, and you can be the high tech equiv of Braveheart! > >Original Message: >----------------- >From: John E. King kingjohn@erols.com >Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 11:07:28 -0500 >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Transponder installation. > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com> > >To Lowell, Kirk & Others, > >This past week I had a very interesting experience with the effective >use of an antenna ground plane. It was not related to my Kitfox, but >with my cell phone. My house is located in an area where the cell phone >reception is non existent without the aid of an antenna. Right across >the street is a mountain that restricts cell phone reception. I >purchased a Radio Shake cell phone antenna for my truck with a magnetic >base that really improves cell phone reception. When I wanted to make a >cell phone call from my home, I would back the truck out of the garage >and make the call. The signal strength was 3 bars on the cell phone >which was just adequate to make a cell phone call. > >Since that worked, I purchased another cell phone antenna from Radio >Shack along with an extra length cable. I decided to run some tests >without and with an antenna ground plane with the antenna mounted on >the garage roof. I made the ground plane out of galvanized sheet metal >( 20" diameter) so that it would work with the magnetic base of the >antenna. The results shown below were while I was standing outside >using my cell phone. > >1. Cell phone without an antenna: Signal strength = zero to one bar >(no communication) >2. Cell phone with only the antenna: Signal strength = 3 bars (minimal >to adequate communication) >3. Cell phone with antenna & ground plane = 4 to 5 bars (good >communication) > >So, I can now make cell phone calls inside my house with good signal >strength. That saves me money since, I no longer have to pay extra for >long distance calls using my house phone. > > >


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    Time: 09:03:22 AM PST US
    From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
    Subject: "Surge Supressor Diode" on Starter Solenoid ???
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> I am using an ACS A-510-2 Ignition switch, but only for the magneto grounds and lock. I am putting a separate starter button so I can crank the 912S with the Mags off both for "pre-oiling" and for smoother starts. But being very ignorant in the electrical area, I am not sure whether to use the Diode supplied with the ignition switch with my push button switch. Is this just to make the contacts last longer in the ignition switch? Will it serve the same function with my push button? Or is it totally unnecessary with my push button? Thanks, Randy - Series 5/7 getting close.... (I think!) .


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    Time: 09:18:38 AM PST US
    From: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: ACS Vender
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com> Aircraft Spruce are excellent to deal with and if they don'tcarrya part that is on the market, they will get info. and pricing for you and call you back.Just the other day I was looking for a set of retractable seat belts and they called me back within a few hours with a price. Best Regards, Marc Arseneault Ontario Canada From: "Bruce Harrington" <AEROWOOD@MCSI.NET>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com To: <KITFOX-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: ACS Vender Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 08:46:22 -0800 -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <AEROWOOD@MCSI.NET>I used both Wicks and ACS for my Sonex hardware and misc. parts. ACS for most parts/hardware due to lower than Wicks prices there from 2001-2003. I used Wicks for items ACS did not carry. I have both catalogs and compare prices before I buy. Both are very good companies to deal


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    Time: 09:22:22 AM PST US
    From: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
    Subject: Surge Supressor Diode on Starter Solenoid ???
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com> Randy - Starter solenoids, relay's, etc generate pretty big spikes. Usually the diodes are for eliminating those spikes. I have several relays in my plane (ldg lights, etc), and without the diodes there is a distinct POP in the headset's whenever I click something on/off Jeff. Original Message: ----------------- From: Randy Daughenbaugh rjdaugh@rapidnet.com Subject: Kitfox-List: "Surge Supressor Diode" on Starter Solenoid ??? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> I am using an ACS A-510-2 Ignition switch, but only for the magneto grounds and lock. I am putting a separate starter button so I can crank the 912S with the Mags off both for "pre-oiling" and for smoother starts. But being very ignorant in the electrical area, I am not sure whether to use the Diode supplied with the ignition switch with my push button switch. Is this just to make the contacts last longer in the ignition switch? Will it serve the same function with my push button? Or is it totally unnecessary with my push button? Thanks, Randy - Series 5/7 getting close.... (I think!) .


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    Time: 09:41:29 AM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: Cowl
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> The 912 was offered on the Model II as an option, don't know if that helps. Dee Young Model II Do not archive >From: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net> >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Kitfox-List: Cowl >Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:58:19 -0500 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net> > >To all Rotax 912 users, > I mentioned earlier that I have a classic IV 4 pc. cowl for sale in >new condition. I was contacted by a gentleman who is using a Rotax 912 >about the cowl as to whether or not it would fit. The cowl came with a 10 >yr. old (unbuilt) kit along with a Mosler VW conversion. I don't know if >the cowl came from Skystar (then Denney's) or from Mosler. If someone else >who is using a 912 could share some critical measurements on their cowl, >then we would know what it would fit. Thanks. >Bill >do not archive > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/


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    Time: 11:16:30 AM PST US
    From: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
    Subject: Re: New skis tested
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us> Michel, I suggest that you add a raised edge to the rear leading edge of your "cheese cutter" to reduce the amount of snow being piled up at the back of your skis. In deep powder, the "slicing" effect can throw up a lot of snow and is way too much "drag" on the skis. Try heating and bending the edge up a little. Mine did this too initially. You will not be able to eliminate completely. Great job, yours look almost exactly like my skis albeit mine are framed of aluminum. Scott in Nome Michel Verheughe wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> > > Hello friends, > > Today I finished the installation of my new wheel penetration skis. I taxied, I > high-speed taxied on the runway, I taxied on the snow, but I wait until > tomorrow to take off for the first time. I want to do that with a friend with > VHF nearby. Today, I was alone. > > Here are some pictures I have just dumped on my server. > http://home.online.no/~michel/ski/ > > Any comment would be much appreciated. > > Cheers, > Michel >


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    Time: 12:18:24 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Antennas and ground planes
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> kurt schrader wrote: > Now was that fun? Absolutely Kurt! I love your S explanation! As I am not a "builder" I was neither "building" radios but rather using them. Chatting, or "rag chewing" as we call it, especially in CW (Morse) was my fun. But some hams are still making new antennas. Can you believe it? It's a bit like you and Mathias, talking about profiles. Wow! I love to see people still finding new things. John, nice to hear about your cell phone experiments. Isn't it fun to experiment with the technical world that surrounds us? Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 12:19:24 PM PST US
    From: "Dave & Wendy Grosvenor" <dwg@iafrica.com>
    Subject: Re: "Surge Supressor Diode" on Starter Solenoid ???
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave & Wendy Grosvenor" <dwg@iafrica.com> Randy, you will probably need the diode but put it across your starter solenoid rather than the push button. Rather kill the spike at the source. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: "Surge Supressor Diode" on Starter Solenoid ??? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> I am using an ACS A-510-2 Ignition switch, but only for the magneto grounds and lock. I am putting a separate starter button so I can crank the 912S with the Mags off both for "pre-oiling" and for smoother starts. But being very ignorant in the electrical area, I am not sure whether to use the Diode supplied with the ignition switch with my push button switch. Is this just to make the contacts last longer in the ignition switch? Will it serve the same function with my push button? Or is it totally unnecessary with my push button? Thanks, Randy - Series 5/7 getting close.... (I think!) .


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    Time: 12:21:48 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Pressure testing WAS Ski testing day
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> kurt schrader wrote: > But the list (sorry, I forgot who) was right. You need to test > with the vents open and the door open too, if you fly that way. Yes, I will, Kurt. It is in my "to do" mental list. I remember when I flew first time with my son and he opened to air vent as it was getting hot in the cockpit, I watched the altimeter, being aware that it could influence it. I didn't noticed a change but I'll have to do it in a much more accurate way ... and with the doors removed ... when it is weather to that! :-) Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 12:26:04 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Ski testing day
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Fred Shiple wrote: > Michel, > Thanks for the update. Looks like you've got a well thought out and executed set up. > Those of us who have not built our skis yet appreciate seeing what we've got to look > forward to. Thank you, Fred. I told the builder of my skis that they were very positively commented by this list and he was very pleased. Poor fellow, he worked all his life as a welder for the local shipyard. But today he is unemployed; very few ships are still built in Norway! Cheers, Michel


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    Time: 12:29:11 PM PST US
    From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
    Subject: tic Raditor elbow connector?: Kitfox-List:
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com> Is it okay to use plastic radiator elbows to connect my radiator hose? I bought a new 582 bluehead for my KF model II and the new water pump outlet goes towards the front of the plane whereas the old 582 water pump outlet went towards the rear of the plane. I went to Napa and they only sell plastic radiator elbows. If I can't use plastic radiator connectors where can I buy 1" brass or copper elbows? -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott McClintock Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New skis tested --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us> Michel, I suggest that you add a raised edge to the rear leading edge of your "cheese cutter" to reduce the amount of snow being piled up at the back of your skis. In deep powder, the "slicing" effect can throw up a lot of snow and is way too much "drag" on the skis. Try heating and bending the edge up a little. Mine did this too initially. You will not be able to eliminate completely. Great job, yours look almost exactly like my skis albeit mine are framed of aluminum. Scott in Nome Michel Verheughe wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> > > Hello friends, > > Today I finished the installation of my new wheel penetration skis. I taxied, I > high-speed taxied on the runway, I taxied on the snow, but I wait until > tomorrow to take off for the first time. I want to do that with a friend with > VHF nearby. Today, I was alone. > > Here are some pictures I have just dumped on my server. > http://home.online.no/~michel/ski/ > > Any comment would be much appreciated. > > Cheers, > Michel >


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    Time: 12:33:49 PM PST US
    From: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
    Subject: Antennas and ground planes
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net> Kurt and John Very interesting explanation of resonance Kurt. To further expand on yours and John's thoughts on ground planes --- VSWR or (voltage standing wave ratio) really comes into play when you do not have a ground or ground plane for the antenna to work against. A small vertical or any vertical for that matter with out a ground plane is like a capacitor without a second plate. It doesn't work very well --- so you start getting high VSWR. A high VSWR means that a good deal of the energy (RF) is not going where you want it to go --- that is towards some receiver at some distance from you. The higher the VSWR the more RF energy is being reflected back into your transmitter. This reflected energy is subtracting from the energy you are trying to get out into the world for everyone to hear. The energy reflected back is normally dissipated as heat along the transmission line or in the final circuitry of the transmitting section. Today's transmitters are very well designed and can handle high VSWR's. If you have a power meter or VSWR meter you can adjust the size of the whip antenna and ground plane so that maximum power is going forward with minimum coming back, a VSWR of 1.1 to 1 is an excellent reading --- with up to 1.4 to 1 being acceptable. So you see a ground plane had a lot to do with getting the power out of the antenna --- the same hold true on the receiving side. If the antenna with ground plane is tuned to the XMTR frequency then it holds true your reception will also be better. You can do more by proper antenna tuning that you can by increasing power. Increasing power gets you out a bit further but does nothing on the receiving end. So === good ground plane === good tuning === happy transmitter and receiver. As John indicated the ground plane can be anything metallic, garbage can lid, tin, copper or aluminium foil --- the proviso is that the coaxial shield must be "electrically" well connected to the ground plane. 39 years in aviation electronics and a Ham (VE6PQ) Ted Edmonton, Ab -- Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Antennas and ground planes --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> To the List, I have been thinking about this antenna/ground plane explaination today and thought I might make a stab at it for those who want to know. Here goes...


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    Time: 12:39:30 PM PST US
    From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
    Subject: plastic radiator elbows
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com> Is it okay to use plastic radiator elbows to connect my radiator hose? I bought a new 582 Bluehead for my KF model II and the new water pump outlet goes towards the front of the plane whereas the old 582 water pump outlet went towards the rear of the plane. I went to Napa and they only sell plastic radiator elbows. If I can't use plastic radiator connectors where can I buy 1" brass or copper elbows? Robert -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel Verheughe Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Antennas and ground planes --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> kurt schrader wrote: > Now was that fun? Absolutely Kurt! I love your S explanation! As I am not a "builder" I was neither "building" radios but rather using them. Chatting, or "rag chewing" as we call it, especially in CW (Morse) was my fun. But some hams are still making new antennas. Can you believe it? It's a bit like you and Mathias, talking about profiles. Wow! I love to see people still finding new things. John, nice to hear about your cell phone experiments. Isn't it fun to experiment with the technical world that surrounds us? Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 12:40:26 PM PST US
    From: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: ACS Vender
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com> Thanks guys, I should have been able to figure that out on my own. I guess that is why they say two heads are better then one. James E. Burke (N94JE) -------Original Message------- From: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: ACS Vender --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com> Aircraft Spruce are excellent to deal with and if they don'tcarrya part that is on the market, they will get info. and pricing for you and call you back Just the other day I was looking for a set of retractable seat belts and they called me back within a few hours with a price. Best Regards, Marc Arseneault Ontario Canada From: "Bruce Harrington" <AEROWOOD@MCSI.NET>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics com To: <KITFOX-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: ACS Vender Bruce Harrington" <AEROWOOD@MCSI.NET>I used both Wicks and ACS for my Sonex hardware and misc. parts. ACS for most parts/hardware due to lower than Wicks prices there from 2001-2003. I used Wicks for items ACS did not carry. I have both catalogs and compare prices before I buy. Both are very good companies to deal


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    Time: 12:42:13 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: New skis tested
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Hello Scott, Scott McClintock wrote: > I suggest that you add a raised edge to the rear leading edge of your "cheese > cutter" to reduce the amount of snow being piled up at the back of your skis. That's funny, I was just thinking about what could be done in order to do just that, when I read you message! > Try heating and bending the edge up a little. I am afraid that won't be possible because there is that tube on which the plastic sheet is fixed to. > Great job, yours look almost exactly like my skis albeit mine are framed of > aluminum. I know. From what I understand, yours are made of 1/2" square aluminium tubes. Mine is 5/8" steel. Your plastic sheets are 3/8" (if I remember correctly, I haven't anymore your email) and mine are only 5 mm. Your skis have most of the weight in the plastic sole, mine have maybe 80% of the weight in the steel construction. Otherwise, they look much alike. For the "cheese cutter," I am not sure what to do because when I look at a photo of me landing yesterday, I can see much snow projected upward, behind the wheel. If I want to prevent this, I need a guard, all the way to the tyre and that is dangerous as the tyres expand as it touches a hard surface and I might lock the wheel. Looking at the snow on the aft end of the ski, later, I noticed it was very loose as it was airborne before landing there. I guess the weight shouldn't be a problem, any excess to what is already there would just fall off. If I really want to close the gap, I should need something that could be in contact with the tyre. Like a hard brush bristle. Then again, maybe I am making too much of it. What do you think? Cheers, Michel


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    Time: 01:32:58 PM PST US
    Subject: 582 oil injection cable
    From: charles b cook <cookflys@juno.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: charles b cook <cookflys@juno.com> My oil injection cable (throttle cable) needs to be replaced. Has any one purchased one of these lately? It is 31" long. Spruce Aircraft does not carry. Thanks Charles Cook > > = > = > = > = > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:33:14 PM PST US
    From: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com>
    Subject: plastic radiator elbows
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com> Hi Robert, I can't say for sure if it is ok to use plastic elbows but I can tell you that I have some on my plane and never had any problems with a total of 343 hours on it. Best Regards, Marc Arseneault Ontario Canada From: "Harris, Robert" <ROBERT_HARRIS@INTUIT.COM>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com To: "'kitfox-list@matronics.com'" <KITFOX-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>Subject: Kitfox-List: plastic radiator elbows Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 12:39:12 -0800 -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <ROBERT_HARRIS@INTUIT.COM>Is it okay to use plastic radiator elbows to connect my radiator hose? I bought a new 582 Bluehead for my KF model II and the new water pump outlet goes towards the front of the plane whereas the old 582 water pump outlet went towards the rear of the plane. I went to Napa and they only sell plastic radiator elbows. If I can't use plastic radiator connectors where can I buy 1" brass or copper elbows? Rob


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    Time: 01:36:58 PM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: Cargo Pod
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> I was following the brief discussion on cargo pods. I see Skystar still has the nice little pod available for sale on the web site. Check this site out and see a picture and cost. http://www.skystar.com/cargo&covers.htm Dee Young Model II N345DY Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee when you click here.


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    Time: 02:03:49 PM PST US
    From: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com>
    Subject: 582 oil injection cable
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com> You can get one made upfrom many suppliers, all you need is the measurements or I replaced mine last year and purchased it from Skystar at a reasonable price. Best Regards, Marc Arseneault Ontario Canada


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    Time: 02:13:02 PM PST US
    From: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Door Cylinders
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com> Would anyone have a door cylinder that is no more good? All I need is the tip that treads on the end of the cylinder and attaches to the ball swivel. The cylinders were given to me from a friend who's father in law passed away in a crash with his Kitfox a couple of years ago and the only thing that is wrong with the one cylinder is the tip is broken. Means something to me to have part of his plane in mine. Best Regards, Marc Arseneault Ontario Canada


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    Time: 02:20:12 PM PST US
    From: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: Plastic Raditor elbow connector?: Kitfox-List:
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com> You can pick up copper elbows at your local HVAC supply house or at a plumbing supply. James E. Burke (N94JE) -------Original Message------- From: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Plastic Raditor elbow connector?: Kitfox-List: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit com> Is it okay to use plastic radiator elbows to connect my radiator hose? I bought a new 582 bluehead for my KF model II and the new water pump outlet goes towards the front of the plane whereas the old 582 water pump outlet went towards the rear of the plane. I went to Napa and they only sell plastic radiator elbows. If I can't use plastic radiator connectors where can I buy 1" brass or copper elbows?


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    Time: 02:24:04 PM PST US
    From: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
    Subject: Michel's Skis
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us> (Looking at the snow on the aft end of the ski, later, I noticed it was very loose as it was airborne before landing there. I guess the weight shouldn't be a problem, any excess to what is already there would just fall off. If I really want to close the gap, I should need something that could be in contact with the tyre. Like a hard brush bristle. Then again, maybe I am making too much of it. What do you think?) Michel, I think you are on the right tract. On mine, I had the cross brace welded about 2 inches (60mm) rearwards of the opening. That allowed me to heat and lift the edge which really helped to keep the snow below the edge. You can try putting a bevel in the plastic edge and then going with a bristle type of scrubber. Either or better, both should keep this snow accumulation to a minimum. Again, good job and they really look great. Scott in Nome P.S. Iditarod mushers are headed to Nome! We race the big (Yamaha RX-1) snowmachine next Saturday. It only goes 140 mph! DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 02:36:04 PM PST US
    From: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Plastic Raditor elbow connector?: Kitfox-List:
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com> The only concern that was brought up on the copper elbows as I have some of those on my plane also is that they aren't ribbed therefore the hose could slide/come off. Best Regards, Marc Arseneault Ontario Canada From: Jim Burke <JEBURKE94JE@DIRECWAY.COM>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Plastic Raditor elbow connector?: Kitfox-List: Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 17:19:40 -0500 -- Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <JEBURKE94JE@DIRECWAY.COM>You can pick up copper elbows at your local HVAC supply house or at a plumbing supply. James E. Burke (N94JE) -------Original Message------- From: kitfox-list@matronics.com Date: 3/8/2004 3:33:41 PM To: 'kitfox-list@matronics.com' Subject: Plastic Raditor elbow connector?: Kitfox-List: -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <ROBERT_HARRIS@INTUIT com>Is it okay to use plastic radiato


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    Time: 02:39:56 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
    Subject: Re: Cowl
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> Is your cowl the round bump cowl or the more streamlined flat cowl. I'm in need of a Model IV with VW engine running a redrive, so prop is 51/2 inches higher than standard, what ever that is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Cowl > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net> > > To all Rotax 912 users, > I mentioned earlier that I have a classic IV 4 pc. cowl for sale in new condition. I was contacted by a gentleman who is using a Rotax 912 about the cowl as to whether or not it would fit. The cowl came with a 10 yr. old (unbuilt) kit along with a Mosler VW conversion. I don't know if the cowl came from Skystar (then Denney's) or from Mosler. If someone else who is using a 912 could share some critical measurements on their cowl, then we would know what it would fit. Thanks. > Bill > do not archive > > > --- > > ---


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    Time: 02:54:58 PM PST US
    From: "daniel johnson" <kitfox91je@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Cargo Pod
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "daniel johnson" <kitfox91je@hotmail.com> You are right Dee. I have the Drop style pod that Skystar makes. I like it alot and never even take it off the plane anymore. I started this thread on bag pods hoping to find the larger version that Denney used to market. No such luck so i think i'm going to make a fabric baggage area behind the seat for my 3. Just wanted to have enough room for oil, clothes for 2 of us, a small tent and light blankets for camping at Sun n Fun. Dan Johnson...Columbus, ohio >From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: Cargo Pod >Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 13:36:53 -0800 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> > >I was following the brief discussion on cargo pods. I see Skystar still has >the nice little pod available for sale on the web site. Check this site out >and see a picture and cost. > >http://www.skystar.com/cargo&covers.htm > >Dee Young >Model II N345DY > >Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee when you click here. > > Frustrated with dial-up? Lightning-fast Internet access for as low as


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    Time: 02:59:00 PM PST US
    From: "daniel johnson" <kitfox91je@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Door Cylinders
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "daniel johnson" <kitfox91je@hotmail.com> Marc...i have a couple of used cylinders. I could probably send off the end to you if you can wait a week or so..i'm going to be working and away from the hangar for a short time. Dan Johnson...Columbus Ohio.K3 >From: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Door Cylinders >Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 17:12:53 -0500 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Arseneault" ><northernultralights@hotmail.com> > >Would anyone have a door cylinder that is no more good? All I need is the >tip that treads on the end of the cylinder and attaches to the ball swivel. >The cylinders were given to me from a friend who's father in law passed >away in a crash with his Kitfox a couple of years ago and the only thing >that is wrong with the one cylinder is the tip is broken. Means something >to me to have part of his plane in mine. > > >Best Regards, > >Marc Arseneault >Ontario Canada > > Frustrated with dial-up? Lightning-fast Internet access for as low as


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    Time: 03:00:59 PM PST US
    From: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
    Subject: Antennas and ground planes
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net> Not sure where the first post went this is the second two hours later. Kurt and John Very interesting explanation of resonance Kurt. To further expand on yours and John's thoughts on ground planes --- VSWR or (voltage standing wave ratio) really comes into play when you do not have a ground or ground plane for the antenna to work against. A small vertical or any vertical for that matter with out a ground plane is like a capacitor without a second plate. It doesn't work very well --- so you start getting high VSWR. A high VSWR means that a good deal of the energy (RF) is not going where you want it to go --- that is towards some receiver at some distance from you. The higher the VSWR the more RF energy is being reflected back into your transmitter. This reflected energy is subtracting from the energy you are trying to get out into the world for everyone to hear. The energy reflected back is normally dissipated as heat along the transmission line or in the final circuitry of the transmitting section. Today's transmitters are very well designed and can handle high VSWR's. If you have a power meter or VSWR meter you can adjust the size of the whip antenna and ground plane so that maximum power is going forward with minimum coming back, a VSWR of 1.1 to 1 is an excellent reading --- with up to 1.4 to 1 being acceptable. So you see a ground plane had a lot to do with getting the power out of the antenna --- the same hold true on the receiving side. If the antenna with ground plane is tuned to the XMTR frequency then it holds true your reception will also be better. You can do more by proper antenna tuning that you can by increasing power. Increasing power gets you out a bit further but does nothing on the receiving end. So === good ground plane === good tuning === happy transmitter and receiver. As John indicated the ground plane can be anything metallic, garbage can lid, tin, copper or aluminium foil --- the proviso is that the coaxial shield must be "electrically" well connected to the ground plane. Ted Edmonton, Ab DO NOT ARCHIVE <<<<Kurt Said>>>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Antennas and ground planes I have been thinking about this antenna/ground plane explanation today and thought I might make a stab at it for those who want to know. Here goes...


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    Time: 04:10:50 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Cowl
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net> Bob, Mine is the round "bump" style. The 5.5" higher than standard part means that the VW engine is running a PSRU (prop speed reduction unit), so the prop hub is 5.5" higher than the crank (which is where the prop would be mounted without the redux unit). The cowl came with an unbuilt plane that had a VW engine. I'm not sure if the height of the redux would be a problem or not. Is your engine mounted on the plane yet? If so, we could compare some measurements to make sure it would fit. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Cowl > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> > > Is your cowl the round bump cowl or the more streamlined flat cowl. I'm in > need of a Model IV with VW engine running a redrive, so prop is 51/2 inches > higher than standard, what ever that is. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Cowl > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net> > > > > To all Rotax 912 users, > > I mentioned earlier that I have a classic IV 4 pc. cowl for sale in > new condition. I was contacted by a gentleman who is using a Rotax 912 > about the cowl as to whether or not it would fit. The cowl came with a 10 > yr. old (unbuilt) kit along with a Mosler VW conversion. I don't know if > the cowl came from Skystar (then Denney's) or from Mosler. If someone else > who is using a 912 could share some critical measurements on their cowl, > then we would know what it would fit. Thanks. > > Bill > > do not archive > > > > > > --- > > > > > > --- > >


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    Time: 04:39:29 PM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: Sport Pilot rating
    Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 16:39:09 -0800 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> Anyone heard anything on the status of the sport pilot ruling? Dee Young Model II N345DY


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    Time: 05:51:19 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Sport Pilot rating
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net> Central California FSDO is having a briefing in April. The rule is in OMB and they have about 10 more days to stew over it, however the FAA is adament to get the rule out, in fact, DOT met deaf ears when they tried to hamstring it. FAA: "The rule is going forward as written". DOT got their panties in a twist and kept the rule on Menetie's desk for an extra month. The rule will be printed quickly one FAA get's it back from OMB. I'd look for it near the end of April. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Sport Pilot rating > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> > > Anyone heard anything on the status of the sport pilot ruling? > > Dee Young > Model II N345DY > >


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    Time: 05:59:44 PM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Sport Pilot rating
    Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 17:59:29 -0800 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> Thanks Steve for the update, that is good news for everyone. I will let aviation grow again. Dee Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Cooper<mailto:spdrflyr@earthlink.net> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 5:54 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sport Pilot rating --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net<mailto:spdrflyr@earthlink.net>> Central California FSDO is having a briefing in April. The rule is in OMB and they have about 10 more days to stew over it, however the FAA is adament to get the rule out, in fact, DOT met deaf ears when they tried to hamstring it. FAA: "The rule is going forward as written". DOT got their panties in a twist and kept the rule on Menetie's desk for an extra month. The rule will be printed quickly one FAA get's it back from OMB. I'd look for it near the end of April. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Sport Pilot rating > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com>> > > Anyone heard anything on the status of the sport pilot ruling? > > Dee Young > Model II N345DY > >


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    Time: 06:09:56 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Sport Pilot rating
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net> My pleasure. This IS a broundbreaking rule. We look forward to the thousands of new, better trained, pilots entering the ranks of Sport Aviation. No longer will you see a "Fat UL" without an "N" number on it. I believe that the regestration of Light Sport Aircraft and Airman will be a boon to our Sport. I am currently a USUA BFI, I have been studying hard in preparatiuon for my FAA transition exam. I already have my FOI exam...After that, all I need is the check ride and I will be a SPCFI. Steve Cooper USUA BFI A67315 Avid Mark IV HH/STOL Jabiru 2200 #296 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sport Pilot rating > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> > > Thanks Steve for the update, that is good news for everyone. I will let aviation grow again. > > Dee > > Do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Cooper<mailto:spdrflyr@earthlink.net> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 5:54 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sport Pilot rating > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net<mailto:spdrflyr@earthlink.net>> > > Central California FSDO is having a briefing in April. The rule is in OMB > and they have about 10 more days to stew over it, however the FAA is adament > to get the rule out, in fact, DOT met deaf ears when they tried to hamstring > it. FAA: "The rule is going forward as written". DOT got their panties in a > twist and kept the rule on Menetie's desk for an extra month. The rule will > be printed quickly one FAA get's it back from OMB. I'd look for it near the > end of April. > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com>> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Sport Pilot rating > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com<mailto:henrysfork1@msn.com>> > > > > Anyone heard anything on the status of the sport pilot ruling? > > > > Dee Young > > Model II N345DY > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:21:38 PM PST US
    From: "david yeamans" <dafox@ckt.net>
    Subject: Re: Doors
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "david yeamans" <dafox@ckt.net> Hello Marc, I don't think any of the doors on the kitfox model 1, 2, 3, or 4 fit very well. On my model IV, they were way out of line. However, you don't have to be satisfied the way they are. Temporarily hang them from their hinge with a bolt and no nut for easy on and off, mark the place with a felt marking pen, clamp the door in a vise, close to your mark and bend the place by hand. Be patient and keep working at it, and you can end up with a perfect fit. Stay clear of the welds !!!! Good luck !!!! David ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Arseneault To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 6:04 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Doors --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com> David I haven't built my plane but I have done alot of work/repairs on it as re-covering etc... I am presently installing door cylinders and the gapbetween the doors and frame aren't even close all around. I will be putting new lexan and panel but I sure would like a better fit of the door in the frame. Nothing is bent from accidents or anything it just wasn't bent right when built! Very frustrating but I know it's far from being a piano! I guess sometimes I am to fussy! Best Regards, Marc Arseneault Ontario Canada From: Dcecil3@aol.com Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Several questions Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 18:31:51 EST -- Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com Yea Lowell the Model 3 had a Multi holed flat tang at the rudder I assume for the same purpose.Had a major setback here today the right hand door frame


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    Time: 07:34:15 PM PST US
    From: "Steve M" <ondeck355@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Sport Pilot rating
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve M" <ondeck355@hotmail.com> >Central California FSDO is having a briefing in April. Whoa! Can we sit in on that briefing? I'd love to hear about it. Promise I'll keep my yap shut and listen-only! When/where is it? Steve Maher Find things fast with the new MSN Toolbar includes FREE pop-up blocking! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/


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    Time: 08:13:34 PM PST US
    From: RiteAngle3@aol.com
    Subject: Sport Pilot rating
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com All are correct, this will allow private aviation {without investing hundreds of thousands of dollars} to have a factory new aircraft again. Many pilots just don't have the desire or time to build so all types are helped by this new category. I have been a CFI ASMEL for over 42 years and was a Designated Examiner (Comm & ATP) and Pilot Proficiency Examiner in the Cessna Citation for several years prior to getting with the airlines. I am also working to be a pilot examiner for the Sport Pilot. This is being discussed daily at the airport where I instruct. Let us hope they don't mess it up to much. Elbie Mendenhall Brush Prairie, WA


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    Time: 08:15:23 PM PST US
    From: RiteAngle3@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Sport Pilot rating
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com Can we sit in on that briefing? I'd love to hear about it. >>>>Rest assured EAA will have a big announcement on it just as soon as info is out! Elbie


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    Time: 08:22:55 PM PST US
    From: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
    Subject: Re: Plastic Raditor elbow connector?: Kitfox-List:
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net> I put 8 years and 800 hours on non-ribbed AL tube to rubber hoses on my IV-1200 582ed cooling system. Never slipped or leaked. bh > The only concern that was brought up on the copper elbows as I have some of those on my plane also is that they aren't ribbed therefore the hose could slide/come off. > > Best Regards, > > Marc Arseneault > Ontario Canada


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    Time: 08:41:20 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Sport Pilot rating
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net> It's next month in Fresno at the airport I believe. We should all go. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve M" <ondeck355@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sport Pilot rating > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve M" <ondeck355@hotmail.com> > > >Central California FSDO is having a briefing in April. > > Whoa! Can we sit in on that briefing? I'd love to hear about it. Promise > I'll keep my yap shut and listen-only! > > When/where is it? > > Steve Maher > > Find things fast with the new MSN Toolbar includes FREE pop-up blocking! > http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ > >


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    Time: 10:56:04 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: plastic radiator elbows
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> I hope these plastic elbows are better than the plastic radiator ones I got just a couple years ago. Those would easily cave in under clamp pressure forming a V one one side and dumping the contents. If they are substantial - fine. But if they are like the ones I got, don't trust them. Copper elbows are available at any plumbing outlet/hardware store. Kurt S. --- "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" > <Robert_Harris@intuit.com> > > Is it okay to use plastic radiator elbows to connect > my radiator hose? .............. > If I can't use plastic radiator connectors where > can I buy 1" brass or copper elbows? > > Robert __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com


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    Time: 11:13:12 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Antennas and ground planes
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Hey Ted, Do nopt archive When I had the local avionics guru test my instruments, I asked him to bring out an SWR meter too. My comm antenna is hand trimmed and mounted to the firewall as a ground plane. Well, he just brushed me off on that one, to my surprise. Not required by law, I guess. In my opinion, there is nothing that lowers your respect with controllers more than a bad sounding radio, except not being able to understand what they are telling you to do. Worse yet is not getting HELP when you need it due to bad comm. Really important up there in the North country. Lets see: Dipole, rhombic, reflector elements, and then there is that loop you are supposed to make with the antenna cable... Counter EMF? Hysteresis losses? (However that was spelled...) Stuff too deep for this list's uses. But I wish you could come down here and test my SWR. My electronics training stopped when diodes still had heater elements. --- Ted Palamarek <temco@telusplanet.net> wrote: > 39 years in aviation electronics and a Ham (VE6PQ) > > Ted > Edmonton, Ab __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com


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    Time: 11:18:13 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Ski testing day
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Michel, Maybe he could make experimental plane skis to order for world wide distribution? Just a thought. You know me. Kurt S. --- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote: > > Thank you, Fred. I told the builder of my skis that > they were very positively > commented by this list and he was very pleased. > Poor fellow, he worked all his > life as a welder for the local shipyard. But today > he is unemployed; very few ships are still built in > Norway! > > Cheers, > Michel __________________________________ http://search.yahoo.com




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