Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:56 AM - Re: Metric aircraft bolts (Michel Gordillo)
2. 01:34 AM - Re: Metric aircraft bolts (michel)
3. 01:59 AM - Re: Re: USA Registered aircraft (Jeff Thomas)
4. 02:08 AM - Re: Metric aircraft bolts (Patricia Truter)
5. 02:23 AM - Re: Metric aircraft bolts/ bombing (Michel Gordillo)
6. 05:02 AM - (off-topic) Matronics typeset (michel)
7. 07:45 AM - Removing ethanol from gasahol (Randy Daughenbaugh)
8. 09:09 AM - Re: 100 LL AV..Engine perfomrance???Re: EthanolAutog as in Tanks (Bruce Harrington)
9. 09:24 AM - Re: Re: LED Nav. Lights ()
10. 09:26 AM - Re: Re: USA Registered aircraft (kurt schrader)
11. 09:39 AM - Re: Spain (kurt schrader)
12. 11:38 AM - Ethanol Blended Fuel Article / Links (jeff.hays@aselia.com)
13. 11:52 AM - Radial Series 5 (Les James)
14. 02:53 PM - Re: LED Nav. Lights (Torgeir Mortensen)
15. 05:18 PM - Re: Radial Series 5 (John E. King)
16. 05:22 PM - Re: Re: LED Nav. Lights (Roger McConnell)
17. 05:23 PM - Re: Re: LED Nav. Lights (kurt schrader)
18. 05:58 PM - Re: Radial Series 5 (Fox5flyer)
19. 08:03 PM - Re: Metric aircraft bolts (Rick)
20. 09:09 PM - Re: Metric aircraft bolts (Dave & Wendy Grosvenor)
21. 10:07 PM - Re: Ethanol Blended Fuel Article / Links (kurt schrader)
22. 11:05 PM - Re: Radial Series 5 (kurt schrader)
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| Subject: | Re: Metric aircraft bolts |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michel Gordillo" <michelgordillo@telefonica.net>
Anywhere in Europe.....
Usually, one of the experimental aircraft bolt qualities used are steel
grade 8.
I dont know what you need, but if you want, I can try to help you, as I
live close to an industrial area.
How is the model plane doing???
Michel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Wendy Grosvenor" <dwg@iafrica.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Metric aircraft bolts
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave & Wendy Grosvenor"
<dwg@iafrica.com>
>
> This is for the European guys. Do you know of a source of metric aircraft
> bolts? I assume you do get such a thing.
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
>
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| Subject: | Metric aircraft bolts |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
>===== Original Message From "Michel Gordillo" <michelgordillo@telefonica.net>
>Usually, one of the experimental aircraft bolt qualities used are steel
>grade 8.
Thanks Michel. I didn't know that because I didn't build my Kitfox. Now, I'll
make a good note of it.
I would also like to use the occasion to express my deepest sympathy to the
Spanish people in regards with the terrible act of terrorism of yesterday.
As you know, I love your country, I've spend 5 years there, our son was born
in Benidorm, my father is buried in Alfaz de Pi and I have a brother living in
Alicante. Each time I hear Manuel de Falla's "Noches en los jardines de
Espaa," I have tears in my eyes, as I think of Spain.
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: USA Registered aircraft |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeff Thomas" <jeffthomas@ntlworld.com>
Torgeir, Scott and Sid
Thanks for the info it was very helpful.
A guy has suddenly popped up on two aviation groups I am a member of making
a number of outspoken/outlandish statements upsetting a lot of people and
generally "winding up both groups ". This has greatly detracted from the
normally very interesting and informative group activity.
The guy says he did 1245 hr P.I.C. private flying last year in order to
conduct his business. Without going into great detail on this forum he
implied his aircraft were registered in the USA, which my recent checks are
unable to confirm..... it appears the guy is a complete fake just out to
make a little trouble.
Regards
Jeff
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Torgeir Mortensen" <torgemor@online.no>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: USA Registered aircraft
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
>
> Here it is:
>
>
> http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Torgeir.
>
>
> Jeff Thomas wrote:
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeff Thomas"
<jeffthomas@ntlworld.com>
> >
> > In England there is a CAA web site generally known as "G-INFO" where you
can
> > view the details of UK registered aircraft. For example if you put in an
> > aircraft registration the search will come up with the owners name and
> > address and full aircraft details. Alternatively you could enter a
persons
> > name and it would search and come up with the details of any aircraft
> > registered to that person.
> >
> > Is there anything similar in the USA that the general public have access
to?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > Do not archive
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Metric aircraft bolts |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Patricia Truter" <PTruter@csir.co.za>
I can also try to assist as we have some metric aircraft parts in SA.
let me know what you are looking for and I can see if I can assist.
Patricia
>>> michel@online.no 2004-03-12 >>>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel < michel@online.no >
>===== Original Message From "Michel Gordillo" <
michelgordillo@telefonica.net >
>Usually, one of the experimental aircraft bolt qualities used are
steel
>grade 8.
Thanks Michel. I didn't know that because I didn't build my Kitfox.
Now, I'll
make a good note of it.
I would also like to use the occasion to express my deepest sympathy to
the
Spanish people in regards with the terrible act of terrorism of
yesterday.
As you know, I love your country, I've spend 5 years there, our son was
born
in Benidorm, my father is buried in Alfaz de Pi and I have a brother
living in
Alicante. Each time I hear Manuel de Falla's "Noches en los jardines de
Espaa," I have tears in my eyes, as I think of Spain.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Metric aircraft bolts/ bombing |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michel Gordillo" <michelgordillo@telefonica.net>
Thank you very much Michel.
It has been quite painful, and just thinking on other families makes us very
sad.
Best regards, Michel
----- Original Message -----
From: "michel" <michel@online.no>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Metric aircraft bolts
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
>
> >===== Original Message From "Michel Gordillo"
<michelgordillo@telefonica.net>
> >Usually, one of the experimental aircraft bolt qualities used are steel
> >grade 8.
>
> Thanks Michel. I didn't know that because I didn't build my Kitfox. Now,
I'll
> make a good note of it.
>
> I would also like to use the occasion to express my deepest sympathy to
the
> Spanish people in regards with the terrible act of terrorism of yesterday.
> As you know, I love your country, I've spend 5 years there, our son was
born
> in Benidorm, my father is buried in Alfaz de Pi and I have a brother
living in
> Alicante. Each time I hear Manuel de Falla's "Noches en los jardines de
> Espaa," I have tears in my eyes, as I think of Spain.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | (off-topic) Matronics typeset |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
>From: "michel" <michel@online.no>
<SNIP>
> Espaa,"
Just a note to say that Matronics doesn't accept any character that is not
English. I noticed that earlier when writing French words. The above should
read "Espana" with a tilde over the 'n'.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Removing ethanol from gasahol |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
I should have mentioned that while this can be done, it is not a good idea
because it will affect other properties - like lowering the octane rating of
the fuel.
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Daughenbaugh
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Ethanol in Aviation
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Yes, but it may take more than a few ounces of water.
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Burke
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Ethanol in Aviation
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
I don't understand a lot about the technical stuff about alcohol in fuel,
but I do understand it will mix with water. What would happen if I was to
add a few onces of water to a 6 gal. can of gas, shack it up and poor it
thru a water separator funnel? Would it remove the alcohol with the water?
Don't yell to load!
James E. Burke
(N94JE)
-------Original Message-------
From: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Ethanol in Aviation
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia
com>
Not true, re-read section 4 - "Technical Characteristics"
>No mention of the extreme loss of mileage (endurance) is made in the
>article. "Alcoholics" virtually DRINK fuel. Have you ever seen the size
>of the main jet required in a "Alcohol burner".
Here's a bunch of paper's:
http://www.baylor.edu/bias/index.php?id=5302
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| Subject: | Re: EthanolAutog as in |
Tanks
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
Hi Robert,
I used plenty of 100LL on 5 Air tours in my 582ed Kitfox. Air Tours were from
700-1400 miles long, and 6-7 days. No apparent problems.
bh
ex-N194KF, 582ed IV-1200, 800+ hrs
> What type of engine performance can I expect using 100LL AV gas in my Rotax
> 582? Will the stock carburetor jets be okay with the 100LL AV gas?
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| Subject: | Re: LED Nav. Lights |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rkstevens@verizon.net>
>
> From: "Steve Gandy" <s.gandy@comcast.net>
> Date: 2004/03/11 Thu PM 10:44:29 CST
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: LED Nav. Lights
>
>
Blue Sky Aviation has the clear lenses for wingtip landing lights if those are
the lenses to which you refer. Noel Simmons (owner/operator of Blue Sky) monitors
the list -- or at least used to. I sure that a cursory google search will
reveal the current URL of the Blue Sky web site -- since I don't remember it.
Something like blueskyav.com or something similar.
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: USA Registered aircraft |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Jeff,
If he is flying over 100 hrs per month, he doesn't
have a lot of time for his business and I would think
even less to go on line and be a pest. He does sound
like just a fake.
Kurt S.
--- Jeff Thomas <jeffthomas@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Torgeir, Scott and Sid
>
> Thanks for the info it was very helpful.
>
> A guy has suddenly popped up on two aviation groups
> I am a member of making
> a number of outspoken/outlandish statements
> upsetting a lot of people and
> generally "winding up both groups ". This has
> greatly detracted from the
> normally very interesting and informative group
> activity.
>
> The guy says he did 1245 hr P.I.C. private flying
> last year in order to conduct his business.
__________________________________
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Yes, we should take a moment to take this seriously
and share their concern.
I have also been to Spain several times. Because of
Spain's size, this is like 9-11 for them. In fact, I
think it occured exactly 911 days after 9-11.
Correct?
No matter what your cause, there is no justification
for attacking innocent people.
Kurt S.
..............
> I would also like to use the occasion to express my
> deepest sympathy to the
> Spanish people in regards with the terrible act of
> terrorism of yesterday.
> As you know, I love your country, I've spend 5 years
> there, our son was born
> in Benidorm, my father is buried in Alfaz de Pi and
> I have a brother living in
> Alicante. Each time I hear Manuel de Falla's "Noches
> en los jardines de
> Espana," I have tears in my eyes, as I think of
> Spain.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
__________________________________
http://search.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Ethanol Blended Fuel Article / Links |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
Here's some usefull info about Ethanol Blended fuels.
http://www.deh.gov.au/atmosphere/ethanol/review/engine-durability.html
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Les James" <wharf.farm@ukonline.co.uk>
If anyone is interested in the details/flight test and writeup with pictures of my Rotec radial engined Series 5 have a look at www.rotecradialengines.com
See PFA article.
Les James
G-LESZ
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| Subject: | Re: LED Nav. Lights |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi Steve,
This first link is to Whelen aviation catalog, go to page 24 and find
the unit W1285PG1 (green)- P/N: 01-0770001-41. Check if this is the
correct one (this is the one on my Fox).
http://www.whelen.com/pb/11015.pdf
Here is the links for questions:
http://www.whelen.com/nondynmc/sales.htm
Whelens home site:
http://www.whelen.com/
Good luck.
Torgeir.
PS: (The clear lens used in the tail light has the same size as the lens
used in the wing tip.)
Steve Gandy wrote:
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Gandy" <s.gandy@comcast.net>
>
> Thanks for the information Torgeir. Do you know where to get the clear
> lens for the Kitfox wing tips. I found some for RV's, but not for the
> Kitfox.
>
> Do not archive
>
> Steve Gandy
> s.gandy@comcast.net
> Aeronca L-3C N48540
> Kitfox 6 N540KF (Building)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Torgeir
> Mortensen
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: LED Nav. Lights
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen
> <torgemor@online.no>
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Here is a little to read about LED in different use.
>
> Please check the requirement for aircrafts position light's.
>
> Read this first:
>
> http://sss.sd54.bc.ca/cars/t62503e.htm
>
> http://www.risingup.com/fars/info/part27-1387-FAR.shtml
>
> http://www.risingup.com/fars/info/part27-1391-FAR.shtml
>
> Lots of traditional light's for aircraft:
>
> (this one take some time to load- pdf file)
>
> http://www.grimesaero.com/info/literature/ga_catalog.pdf
>
> LED replacement for old types of bulb:
>
> http://www.ledtronics.com/
>
> http://www.led.net/datasheets/intermedbase_index/intermed_index.htm
>
> http://www.superbrightleds.com/led_prods.htm
>
> http://www.dialight.com/
>
> LED clusters:
>
> http://www.tcmlink.com/EngSpecSheetDocs/IO240B.pdf
>
> Dome (?) LED assy:
>
> http://www.theledlight.com/ceilingfixtures.html
>
> LED "mini spot" light:
>
> http://www.theledlight.com/led-fixtures.html
>
> Regards
>
> Torgeir.
>
> Steve Gandy wrote:
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Gandy" <s.gandy@comcast.net>
> >
> > Hi List
> >
> > Myself and a friend are each building a Kitfox S-6 and S-7 and are
> > looking for low amp LED Nav Lights and clear lens for the wing tip.
> Any
> > help would be appreciated.
> >
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
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| Subject: | Re: Radial Series 5 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
Les,
Very nice clean installation. Bring it to Oshkosh, I would love to look
it over. Do Not Archive
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Les James wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Les James" <wharf.farm@ukonline.co.uk>
>
>If anyone is interested in the details/flight test and writeup with pictures of my Rotec radial engined Series 5 have a look at www.rotecradialengines.com
>See PFA article.
>
>Les James
>G-LESZ
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Here is the url for BlueSky Aviation.
http://www.blueskyaviation.net/catalog.html
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
rkstevens@verizon.net
Subject: Re: RE: Kitfox-List: LED Nav. Lights
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rkstevens@verizon.net>
>
> From: "Steve Gandy" <s.gandy@comcast.net>
> Date: 2004/03/11 Thu PM 10:44:29 CST
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: LED Nav. Lights
>
>
Blue Sky Aviation has the clear lenses for wingtip landing lights if those
are the lenses to which you refer. Noel Simmons (owner/operator of Blue
Sky) monitors the list -- or at least used to. I sure that a cursory google
search will reveal the current URL of the Blue Sky web site -- since I don't
remember it. Something like blueskyav.com or something similar.
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: LED Nav. Lights |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Yes, Noel is still around here somewhere. Here is his
web site:
<http://www.blueskyaviation.net/>
Kurt S.
--- rkstevens@verizon.net wrote:
>
> > From: "Steve Gandy" <s.gandy@comcast.net>
> > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: LED Nav. Lights
> >
> Blue Sky Aviation has the clear lenses for wingtip
> landing lights if those are the lenses to which you
> refer. Noel Simmons (owner/operator of Blue Sky)
> monitors the list -- or at least used to. I sure
> that a cursory google search will reveal the current
> URL of the Blue Sky web site -- since I don't
> remember it. Something like blueskyav.com or
> something similar.
>
> Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Radial Series 5 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Way too cool! Tell us about the performance, fuel burn, etc. Exciting
stuff.
Darrel
>
> If anyone is interested in the details/flight test and writeup with
pictures of my Rotec radial engined Series 5 have a look at
www.rotecradialengines.com
> See PFA article.
>
> Les James
> G-LESZ
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| Subject: | Metric aircraft bolts |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
This is great. I have always disliked using regular grade hardware in my
metric engine. If I were to make up a list what would be the best format to
provide it in?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Patricia
Truter
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Metric aircraft bolts
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Patricia Truter" <PTruter@csir.co.za>
I can also try to assist as we have some metric aircraft parts in SA.
let me know what you are looking for and I can see if I can assist.
Patricia
>>> michel@online.no 2004-03-12 >>>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel < michel@online.no >
>===== Original Message From "Michel Gordillo" <
michelgordillo@telefonica.net >
>Usually, one of the experimental aircraft bolt qualities used are
steel
>grade 8.
Thanks Michel. I didn't know that because I didn't build my Kitfox.
Now, I'll
make a good note of it.
I would also like to use the occasion to express my deepest sympathy to
the
Spanish people in regards with the terrible act of terrorism of
yesterday.
As you know, I love your country, I've spend 5 years there, our son was
born
in Benidorm, my father is buried in Alfaz de Pi and I have a brother
living in
Alicante. Each time I hear Manuel de Falla's "Noches en los jardines de
Espaa," I have tears in my eyes, as I think of Spain.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Metric aircraft bolts |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave & Wendy Grosvenor" <dwg@iafrica.com>
Thanks Michel and Patricia
I think I should have given more info. Patricia, I'm in Durban and fly a
Bushbaby. Bolts are grade 8, supplied with the kit. I've had some comments
that these are not "aircraft bolts" and concern that they hold my wings to
the struts and the struts to the fuselage. These particular bolts are 8mm.
Someone suggested I try to find metric aircraft bolts in Europe and relace
the ones I have.
Michel, interesting to see that the experimental guys in Europe are using
what we are using here.
I don't think my wings will come off with the 8mm bolts holding them. One
of the Bushbaby guys tested his Bushbaby to 4.8G in flight. If a metric
equivalent of an AN bolt was freely available, I would replace these to keep
the critics happy.
Michel, havn't started the model yet, been too busy!
Cheers
Dave Grosvenor
Durban, South Africa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Gordillo" <michelgordillo@telefonica.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Metric aircraft bolts
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michel Gordillo"
<michelgordillo@telefonica.net>
Anywhere in Europe.....
Usually, one of the experimental aircraft bolt qualities used are steel
grade 8.
I dont know what you need, but if you want, I can try to help you, as I
live close to an industrial area.
How is the model plane doing???
Michel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Wendy Grosvenor" <dwg@iafrica.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Metric aircraft bolts
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave & Wendy Grosvenor"
<dwg@iafrica.com>
>
> This is for the European guys. Do you know of a source of metric aircraft
> bolts? I assume you do get such a thing.
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Blended Fuel Article / Links |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Thanks Jeff,
In the article, Rotax basically says no alcohol, and
the rest of the info seems to back it up.
Kurt S.
Do not archive
--- "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by:
> "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
>
> Here's some useful info about Ethanol Blended
> fuels.
>
http://www.deh.gov.au/atmosphere/ethanol/review/engine-durability.html
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| Subject: | Re: Radial Series 5 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Very interesting Les,
I have been following the Rotec for over a year now
and had saved the site on my computer. This engine
should get some use on other style aircraft too.
Scaled down WW-II fighters for example.
The writer didn't seem to like SS much, at least for
models 1-3.
Seems you are a UK leader in homebuilts though! :-)
Kurt S.
--- Les James <wharf.farm@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Les James"
> <wharf.farm@ukonline.co.uk>
>
> If anyone is interested in the details/flight test
> and writeup with pictures of my Rotec radial engined
> Series 5 have a look at www.rotecradialengines.com
> See PFA article.
>
> Les James
> G-LESZ
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