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1. 03:48 AM - Re: Iditarod Update (michel)
2. 04:25 AM - Re: OT Crash question (David & Maria Lumgair)
3. 04:29 AM - Re: A question about intercom plugs (michel)
4. 04:48 AM - Re: tail (Clem Nichols)
5. 07:33 AM - Re: OT Crash question (Fox5flyer)
6. 07:52 AM - job offer (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
7. 08:20 AM - Re: OT Crash question (jeff.hays@aselia.com)
8. 08:47 AM - Re: OT Crash question (Steve Cooper)
9. 08:53 AM - Re: job offer (NSI AERO)
10. 09:03 AM - Re: job offer (RiteAngle3@aol.com)
11. 09:14 AM - Re: tail (JMCBEAN)
12. 09:47 AM - Iditarod Update (Scott McClintock)
13. 10:29 AM - Re: A question about intercom plugs (torgemor)
14. 11:06 AM - crashes (broschart)
15. 02:51 PM - Re: OT Crash question (Gary Algate)
16. 03:13 PM - Re: OT Crash question (Howard Firm)
17. 03:48 PM - ELT Trivia (Fox5flyer)
18. 04:19 PM - Re: ELT Trivia (Trey Moran)
19. 05:21 PM - Re: ELT Trivia (Bruce Harrington)
20. 06:03 PM - Re: ELT Trivia (Roger McConnell)
21. 06:07 PM - Re: OT Crash question (Steve Cooper)
22. 06:49 PM - Re: ELT Trivia (Fox5flyer)
23. 06:49 PM - Re: Where did you fly to? Re: 100 LL AV..Engine perfomrance???Re: (Jerry Liles)
24. 06:53 PM - Re: ELT Trivia (Fox5flyer)
25. 06:59 PM - Re: ELT Trivia (Don Pearsall)
26. 07:14 PM - Re: ELT Trivia (Bob Unternaehrer)
27. 07:25 PM - Re: ELT Trivia (VFT@aol.com)
28. 07:40 PM - Re: ELT Trivia (Roger McConnell)
29. 09:25 PM - Re: tail (jimshumaker)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
>===== Original Message From RiteAngle3@aol.com
>From what we hear down in the "lower 48 Kjelteil's lead dog had a heart
>attack (?) and died, which was the reason he lost the lead."
Yes, that's what we have heard here too. Poor animal. On second thoughts, it
may be better than dying from a long and painful disease.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: OT Crash question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David & Maria Lumgair" <dlummy@visi.net>
Bob,
This is copied hot off the NTSB website @
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/report.htm.
Federal regulations require operators to notify the NTSB immediately of
aviation accidents and certain incidents. An accident is defined as an
occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft that takes place
between the time any person boards the aircraft with the intention of flight
and all such persons have disembarked, and in which any person suffers death
or serious injury, or in which the aircraft receives substantial damage. An
incident is an occurrence other than an accident that affects or could
affect the safety of operations (49 CFR 830). The report should be filed
with the nearest NTSB regional office. A phone call is sufficient initially,
but a written follow-up will be required.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: OT Crash question
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
<shilocom@c-magic.com>
>
> If there was no personal injury or property damage other than the
airplane,
> I think they would call it an "indident" not requiring reporting. Bob U.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: OT Crash question
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
> >
> > A good friend of mine heavily damaged his newly completed KR-2 with a
> > groundloop and flipover at an uncontrolled airport. The canopy, tail and
> > prop/cowling was damaged. he had liability but no hull insurance. We got
> the
> > plane off the runway and into his hanger, but he (or I) wonder if he
needs
> > to report it to the FAA. The FAR's are not clear on
> experimentals.....anyone
> > have some advice??
> >
> >
> > Howard Firm
> > 508 12th St. South
> > Virginia MN 55792
> >
> >
> > ---
> >
> >
>
> ---
>
>
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| Subject: | A question about intercom plugs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
>===== Original Message From "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
>Sorry, Michel, I'm not into impedance!
>But I've been called impudent!
... and Noel is not into impotence, hummm! :-)
Seriously, I read that there is a cable that convert the so-called "military
type" high impedance headset to GA type headset. So I guess impedance does
matter, Although I am certain I don't have a military type headset. Not a
chance to get into an ECM situation in a Kitfox! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Regarding the Model IV tail, I've just purchased some tape to close the gap
between the horizontal stabilizer and the elevator on my plane. Is it a
good idea to do the same on the gap between the vertical stab. and the
rudder?
Clem Nichols
----- Original Message -----
From: "Flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: tail
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Regular IV doesn't have a built up tail. It's flat, as opposed to the
> Speedster that has ribs to provide an airfoil shape as well as a gap seal
> between the vert stab and the rudder.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ted
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Pleso
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: tail
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net>
>
> Builders,
> What is the difference (if any) in the tail section between the
regular
> Model IV and the Speedster?
> Bill
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: OT Crash question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Can anybody provide the legal definition of the term "substantial damage"
and what those "certain incidents" are?
I know, if in doubt, report it anyway, but it would still be nice to know
what the term means.
Darrel
> Bob,
> This is copied hot off the NTSB website @
> http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/report.htm.
>
> Federal regulations require operators to notify the NTSB immediately of
> aviation accidents and certain incidents. An accident is defined as an
> occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft that takes place
> between the time any person boards the aircraft with the intention of
flight
> and all such persons have disembarked, and in which any person suffers
death
> or serious injury, or in which the aircraft receives substantial damage.
An
> incident is an occurrence other than an accident that affects or could
> affect the safety of operations (49 CFR 830). The report should be filed
> with the nearest NTSB regional office. A phone call is sufficient
initially,
> but a written follow-up will be required.
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"Rv-List@Matronics. Com" <rv-list@matronics.com>,
"Rv9-List@Matronics. Com" <rv9-list@matronics.com>,
"Rv8-List@Matronics. Com" <rv8-list@matronics.com>,
<kitfox-list@matronics.com>, <RV6-List@matronics.com>,
<rv7-list@matronics.com>, <zenith-list@matronics.com>,
<avionics-list@matronics.com>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net>
I am posting this to all the RV lists so if you get duplicates dont be
upset.
It is that time for me at Blue Sky Aviation to add another set of
experienced hands. I am looking for someone with prior building experience,
A&P would be nice, along with private pilot ticket. Must be trustworthy,
hard working, reliable, and a good eye for detail.
If you are or know of someone, please have him or her give me a call or drop
me an email. This is a full time permanent position and is available
immediately.
Sincerely,
Noel Simmons
Blue Sky Aviation, Inc.
Phone & Fax: 406-538-6574
noel@blueskyaviation.net
www.blueskyaviation.net
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| Subject: | Re: OT Crash question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
Substantial Damage
Any damage or failure which adversely affects the structural strength,
performance or flight characteristics of the aircraft, and which would
normally require major repair or replacement of the affected component.
Engine failure or damage limited to an engine if only one engine fails or
is damaged, bent fairings or cowling, dented skin, small punctured holes in
the skin or fabric, ground damage to rotor or propeller blades, and damage
to landing gear, wheels, tires, flaps, engine accessories, brakes, or wing
tips are not considered "substantial damage" for the purpose of this part
Original Message:
-----------------
From: Fox5flyer morid@northland.lib.mi.us
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: OT Crash question
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Can anybody provide the legal definition of the term "substantial damage"
and what those "certain incidents" are?
I know, if in doubt, report it anyway, but it would still be nice to know
what the term means.
Darrel
> Bob,
> This is copied hot off the NTSB website @
> http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/report.htm.
>
> Federal regulations require operators to notify the NTSB immediately of
> aviation accidents and certain incidents. An accident is defined as an
> occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft that takes place
> between the time any person boards the aircraft with the intention of
flight
> and all such persons have disembarked, and in which any person suffers
death
> or serious injury, or in which the aircraft receives substantial damage.
An
> incident is an occurrence other than an accident that affects or could
> affect the safety of operations (49 CFR 830). The report should be filed
> with the nearest NTSB regional office. A phone call is sufficient
initially,
> but a written follow-up will be required.
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| Subject: | Re: OT Crash question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Over at the local strip, a student, while practicing short field, stalled
the Cherroke, careened off the runway, ran between two trees sheering both
wings off and planted it in the front office of the local FBO. that was at
5:00 PM. By 7:00 AM the only tell-tail sign that there had been a problem
were the 4X8 sheets of plywood covering up the hole in the building. Crash?
What crash!
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: OT Crash question
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
>
> Can anybody provide the legal definition of the term "substantial damage"
> and what those "certain incidents" are?
> I know, if in doubt, report it anyway, but it would still be nice to know
> what the term means.
> Darrel
>
> > Bob,
> > This is copied hot off the NTSB website @
> > http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/report.htm.
> >
> > Federal regulations require operators to notify the NTSB immediately of
> > aviation accidents and certain incidents. An accident is defined as an
> > occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft that takes place
> > between the time any person boards the aircraft with the intention of
> flight
> > and all such persons have disembarked, and in which any person suffers
> death
> > or serious injury, or in which the aircraft receives substantial damage.
> An
> > incident is an occurrence other than an accident that affects or could
> > affect the safety of operations (49 CFR 830). The report should be filed
> > with the nearest NTSB regional office. A phone call is sufficient
> initially,
> > but a written follow-up will be required.
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "NSI AERO" <info@nsiaero.com>
Hi Noel,
It sounds like business is improving, and that's great news.
Keep up the good work,
Lance
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel & Yoshie
Simmons
Rv8-List@Matronics. Com; kitfox-list@matronics.com; RV6-List@matronics.com;
rv7-list@matronics.com; zenith-list@matronics.com;
avionics-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: job offer
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons"
--> <noel@blueskyaviation.net>
I am posting this to all the RV lists so if you get duplicates dont be
upset.
It is that time for me at Blue Sky Aviation to add another set of
experienced hands. I am looking for someone with prior building experience,
A&P would be nice, along with private pilot ticket. Must be trustworthy,
hard working, reliable, and a good eye for detail.
If you are or know of someone, please have him or her give me a call or drop
me an email. This is a full time permanent position and is available
immediately.
Sincerely,
Noel Simmons
Blue Sky Aviation, Inc.
Phone & Fax: 406-538-6574
noel@blueskyaviation.net
www.blueskyaviation.net
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com
In a message dated 3/18/04 7:53:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,
noel@blueskyaviation.net writes:
It is that time for me at Blue Sky Aviation to add another set of
experienced hands. I am looking for someone with prior building experience
********************
This is great Noel, you and Yoshie have worked hard and long! Will see you
at AirVenture
Elbie
Elbie Mendenhall
President
EM aviation, LLC
13411 NE Prairie Rd
Brush Prairie WA 98606
Phone & Fax 360-260-0772
www.riteangle.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
There is also a difference between the Model IV-1050 and the Model IV-1200.
I believe the vertical increased by as much as 30%. Some have installed the
Speedster options on the Model IV-1200 but didn't shorten the wing.
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Pleso
Subject: Kitfox-List: tail
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net>
Builders,
What is the difference (if any) in the tail section between the regular
Model IV and the Speedster?
Bill
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
Elbie,
I just got to work after cheering the Italian into Nome. Regarding
Kjelteil's
team, those news reports are usually speculative. The "Animal Rights"
media people
always love to put their own spin on these unfortunate events to serve
their purposes.
Animals that are injured or as in this case die, are examined by vets on
the race course
initially then, if necessary are autopsied in Anchorage.
We will know more in a couple of days as to the exact cause.
Let me take this opportunity to tell all of the list that these dogs are
true athletes. I have
several friends who are mushers and I can tell you that these dogs LIVE
to mush.
I can also tell you that their owners would rather miss a meal
themselves or let a truck
payment go unpaid rather than let their animals go without. They trust
their lives to their animals.
The mushing dogs are very valuable with the average team of 12 worth $30
to $40 thousand
dollars. (or more)
If you want to explore the mushing world, go to www.iditarod.com.
There's a lot of information there.
I personally prefer motorized transportation. (I.e. Kitfox and racing
snowmachines) but the dogs are
cool and I thought I'd keep those of you interested up to date seeing as
I have a "front row seat".
Scott in Nome
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| Subject: | A question about intercom plugs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: torgemor <torgemor@online.no>
Hi Michel,
Just make sure that you'll have standard aircraft jacks in your Fox, never use
different kind of jacks in your AC. Modify your headset plug or use an
adapter.
Regards
Torgeir, now from Sweden..
>===== Original Message From michel <michel@online.no> =====
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
>
>Hello friends,
>
>I have a Flightcom IISX intercom unit mounted in the panel. I wish to
purchase
>two Comtronics Ultra Pro 2000 helmets (compulsory in Norway) with headset
>integrated.
>The problem is: The Comtronics headsets have only one jack plug for
>mic/headset, and the Flightcom intercom has two separate.
>
>Can I modify the plugs myself or is there other things to consider, such as
>different impedance? Comtronics says their headset will fit all
radio/intercom
>but ...
>
>Buying a matching Comtronics intercom won't be too expensive but I have 8
>small holes already drilled in my panel for the Flightcom unit and they won't
>match.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Michel
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: broschart <cfbflyer@localnet.com>
if you have access to aopa pilot 1995 there is a pilot counsel article
about reporting accidents, ( i don't have the month), which gives the
requirements for reporting crashes.
if someone has capability of posting it i think it would resolve a lot
of the miss understanding of reporting crashes
i'm not having much luck at getting it scanned in readable form but here
is a little of the article meanwhile i'll keep trying to get it postable
Have a good day - Charlie
Now, what constitutes substan-
tial damage to the aircraft? It is
helpful to start by listing what is
not considered substantial damage:
engine failure or damage limited to
an engine if only one engine fails
or is damaged; bent fairings or
cowlings; dented skin; small punc-
ture holes in the skin or fabric;
ground damage to rotor or propeller blades;
and damage to landing gear, wheels, tires,
flaps, engine accessories, brakes, or wing tips.
t. Except for these, substantial damage means
any damage or structural failure that ad-
n versely affects the structural strength, perfor-
mance, or flight characteristics of the aircraft
t, and that normally would require major repair
or replacement of the affected component.
What many pilots fail to appreciate in the
hectic aftermath of an accident is that acci-
dents involving minor injuries and minor
damage are not accidents at all--at least not
for the purpose of notification and reporting.
By way of example, the classic gear-up land-
eing does not ordinarily involve a reportable
accident.
If an accident meets the Part 830 definition,
there are both notification and reporting re-
quirements. The notification must be given
g immediately to the nearest NTSB field office
by the most expeditious means available. As
a practical matter, notification often is made
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| Subject: | OT Crash question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Howard
Make sure you check the rod ends and threads at the end of the lift struts.
Kitfoxes tend to bend/break the stud that is welded at the end of the strut
when the plane flips and the dihedral causes the struts to go into
compression. A fried of mine flipped his and everything looked OK until we
closely inspected the strut ends.
Gary Algate
Lite2/582
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Howard Firm
Subject: Kitfox-List: OT Crash question
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
A good friend of mine heavily damaged his newly completed KR-2 with a
groundloop and flipover at an uncontrolled airport. The canopy, tail and
prop/cowling was damaged. he had liability but no hull insurance. We got the
plane off the runway and into his hanger, but he (or I) wonder if he needs
to report it to the FAA. The FAR's are not clear on experimentals.....anyone
have some advice??
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: OT Crash question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
Thanks everyone for the advice....My friend is going to report it.
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
I just changed out the Duracell D cells in my ELT and thought I'd pass this
trivia on. I left the batteries in there for two years and when I took them
out for replacement I compared them with a brand new set. I was a little
suprised.
New set voltage average was 1.614 per cell
Old set volatage average was 1.611 per cell
After two years I'd expected more voltage fade than that, but I consider it
encouraging at the very least.
Darrel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Trey Moran" <ffmoran@centurytel.net>
Darrel,
Why did you change the batteries after two years? When we installed the D-cells
in our ELT the battery packages showed about a 5 year self-life. The ELT instructions
said this was the half-life to be used for determining when to change
the batteries IAW the FARs.
Trey
----- Original Message -----
From: Fox5flyer
To: Kitfox List
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:47 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: ELT Trivia
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
I just changed out the Duracell D cells in my ELT and thought I'd pass this
trivia on. I left the batteries in there for two years and when I took them
out for replacement I compared them with a brand new set. I was a little
suprised.
New set voltage average was 1.614 per cell
Old set volatage average was 1.611 per cell
After two years I'd expected more voltage fade than that, but I consider it
encouraging at the very least.
Darrel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
That's about how long (5 years) I left mine before replacing them.
bh
> Darrel,
>
> Why did you change the batteries after two years? When we installed the
D-cells in our ELT the battery packages showed about a 5 year self-life. The
ELT instructions said this was the half-life to be used for determining when to
change the batteries IAW the FARs.
>
> Trey
> I just changed out the Duracell D cells in my ELT and thought I'd pass this
> trivia on. I left the batteries in there for two years and when I took them
> out for replacement I compared them with a brand new set. I was a little
> suprised.
>
> New set voltage average was 1.614 per cell
> Old set volatage average was 1.611 per cell
>
> After two years I'd expected more voltage fade than that, but I consider it
> encouraging at the very least.
> Darrel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Question, I purchased the ACK Technologies Model E-01. In the installation
instructions it says to mount the unit aligned within 10 degrees with the
longitudinal axis of the aircraft fuselage. Can someone explain why this is
necessary? And can someone suggest a good location to do this? The antenna
location is already set for the mounting plate just to the rear of the
turtle deck.
Roger Mac
S7/912S(soon I hope)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce
Harrington
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: ELT Trivia
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
That's about how long (5 years) I left mine before replacing them.
bh
> Darrel,
>
> Why did you change the batteries after two years? When we installed the
D-cells in our ELT the battery packages showed about a 5 year self-life.
The
ELT instructions said this was the half-life to be used for determining when
to
change the batteries IAW the FARs.
>
> Trey
> I just changed out the Duracell D cells in my ELT and thought I'd pass
this
> trivia on. I left the batteries in there for two years and when I took
them
> out for replacement I compared them with a brand new set. I was a
little
> suprised.
>
> New set voltage average was 1.614 per cell
> Old set volatage average was 1.611 per cell
>
> After two years I'd expected more voltage fade than that, but I consider
it
> encouraging at the very least.
> Darrel
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| Subject: | Re: OT Crash question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
...and "he'll" regret it for the rest of his life...IMO.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: OT Crash question
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
>
> Thanks everyone for the advice....My friend is going to report it.
>
>
> Howard Firm
> 508 12th St. South
> Virginia MN 55792
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> Question, I purchased the ACK Technologies Model E-01. In the
installation
> instructions it says to mount the unit aligned within 10 degrees with the
> longitudinal axis of the aircraft fuselage. Can someone explain why this
is
> necessary? And can someone suggest a good location to do this? The antenna
> location is already set for the mounting plate just to the rear of the
> turtle deck.
> Roger Mac
It's probably necessary to ensure the G switch operates properly. Mine is
mounted under the baggage area and the antenna is inside the fuselage just
behind that.
Darrel
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Kit fox-List": EthanolAutog.a.s.in.Tanks@matronics.com
| Subject: | Re: Where did you fly to? RE: 100 LL AV..Engine perfomrance???RE: |
Kit fox-List: EthanolAutog a s in Tanks
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
Avid, in its better days, routinely used 100LL in their 582 powered
Flyers with no problems including cross country flights from Idaho to
Sun n' Fun and back. Just change the plugs frequently.
Jerry Liles
Harris, Robert wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
>
>Wow that is great news about the 100LL. Where did you fly to? ......
>
>I'm looking forward to taking some trips in my 582ed KII. My previous plane
>was a Challenger II and it made my butt and legs were very sore. I thought
>this was due to the vibration from the two stroke Rotax 503 so I was
>expecting to get sore from flying with the 582 in my KII but maybe I won't.
>
>Robert
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
>Harrington
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: 100 LL AV..Engine perfomrance???RE: Kitfox-List: EthanolAutog a
>s in Tanks
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
>
>Hi Robert,
>I used plenty of 100LL on 5 Air tours in my 582ed Kitfox. Air Tours were
>from
>700-1400 miles long, and 6-7 days. No apparent problems.
>bh
>ex-N194KF, 582ed IV-1200, 800+ hrs
>
>
>
>>What type of engine performance can I expect using 100LL AV gas in my
>>
>>
>Rotax
>
>
>>582? Will the stock carburetor jets be okay with the 100LL AV gas?
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> Darrel,
> Why did you change the batteries after two years? When we installed the
D-cells in our ELT the battery packages showed about a 5 year self-life.
The ELT instructions said this was the half-life to be used for determining
when to change the batteries IAW the FARs.
> Trey
My own personal limit for the batteries is two years. Nothing more than
that. I feel comfortable knowing that I have good batteries in there. I've
had D cells just die for no particular reason and start to leak which makes
a mess. It doesn't take long to make the swap and it gives me the peace of
mind to know that all is well inside the unit. It also gives the
opportunity to test the G switch and ensure that everything operates as it
should. I keep the old batteries for my flashlight.
Darrel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Deke, I thought that the ELT antenna should NOT be located inside the
fuselage because the silver coat and the fuselage tubing will attenuate the
ELT signal.
Have you tested the signal strength with the antenna inside the fuselage? It
would sure be a great place for it, as protection in case of a crash.
Don Pearsall
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
The G sensor which activates it only works one way and the longitudinal axis
will create the G's when you Hit something up front and come to an abrupt
stop. Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: ELT Trivia
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
> Question, I purchased the ACK Technologies Model E-01. In the
installation
> instructions it says to mount the unit aligned within 10 degrees with the
> longitudinal axis of the aircraft fuselage. Can someone explain why this
is
> necessary? And can someone suggest a good location to do this? The antenna
> location is already set for the mounting plate just to the rear of the
> turtle deck.
> Roger Mac
> S7/912S(soon I hope)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce
> Harrington
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: ELT Trivia
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
>
> That's about how long (5 years) I left mine before replacing them.
> bh
>
> > Darrel,
> >
> > Why did you change the batteries after two years? When we installed the
> D-cells in our ELT the battery packages showed about a 5 year self-life.
> The
> ELT instructions said this was the half-life to be used for determining
when
> to
> change the batteries IAW the FARs.
> >
> > Trey
>
> > I just changed out the Duracell D cells in my ELT and thought I'd pass
> this
> > trivia on. I left the batteries in there for two years and when I
took
> them
> > out for replacement I compared them with a brand new set. I was a
> little
> > suprised.
> >
> > New set voltage average was 1.614 per cell
> > Old set volatage average was 1.611 per cell
> >
> > After two years I'd expected more voltage fade than that, but I
consider
> it
> > encouraging at the very least.
> > Darrel
>
>
> ---
>
>
---
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: VFT@aol.com
A few years ago I had the opportunity to participated in an extremely unscientific
test on the merits of internally mounting the ELT antenna in a Kitfox. Laura
and I were awaken by a knock on our door at around 7 am. It was a gang of teens
from the local CAP squadron (who had been camped outside since 6) asking
if we had an aircraft in a hanger at MLB. We drove out to the hanger and sure
enough my ELT was squawking up a storm. They had no problem tracking it inside
the metal hanger, internal antenna and all. Their squadron leader said the signal
strength was really good and that the batteries must be pretty fresh. They
should have been. I had just changed them the day before.
Danny Melnik
F1 #25
Melbourne (FL) Rocket Factory
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Thanks Bob,
I answered my own question about 30 minutes after I sent the e-mail. Next
time I'll try thinking first and ask question second.
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bob
Unternaehrer
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: ELT Trivia
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
The G sensor which activates it only works one way and the longitudinal axis
will create the G's when you Hit something up front and come to an abrupt
stop. Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: ELT Trivia
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
> Question, I purchased the ACK Technologies Model E-01. In the
installation
> instructions it says to mount the unit aligned within 10 degrees with the
> longitudinal axis of the aircraft fuselage. Can someone explain why this
is
> necessary? And can someone suggest a good location to do this? The antenna
> location is already set for the mounting plate just to the rear of the
> turtle deck.
> Roger Mac
> S7/912S(soon I hope)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce
> Harrington
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: ELT Trivia
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
>
> That's about how long (5 years) I left mine before replacing them.
> bh
>
> > Darrel,
> >
> > Why did you change the batteries after two years? When we installed the
> D-cells in our ELT the battery packages showed about a 5 year self-life.
> The
> ELT instructions said this was the half-life to be used for determining
when
> to
> change the batteries IAW the FARs.
> >
> > Trey
>
> > I just changed out the Duracell D cells in my ELT and thought I'd pass
> this
> > trivia on. I left the batteries in there for two years and when I
took
> them
> > out for replacement I compared them with a brand new set. I was a
> little
> > suprised.
> >
> > New set voltage average was 1.614 per cell
> > Old set volatage average was 1.611 per cell
> >
> > After two years I'd expected more voltage fade than that, but I
consider
> it
> > encouraging at the very least.
> > Darrel
>
>
> ---
>
>
---
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Clem
I did and believe it helped dampen yaw and add power.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: tail
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
>
> Regarding the Model IV tail, I've just purchased some tape to close the
gap
> between the horizontal stabilizer and the elevator on my plane. Is it a
> good idea to do the same on the gap between the vertical stab. and the
> rudder?
>
> Clem Nichols
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: tail
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
> >
> > Regular IV doesn't have a built up tail. It's flat, as opposed to the
> > Speedster that has ribs to provide an airfoil shape as well as a gap
seal
> > between the vert stab and the rudder.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Pleso
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: tail
> >
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net>
> >
> > Builders,
> > What is the difference (if any) in the tail section between the
> regular
> > Model IV and the Speedster?
> > Bill
> > do not archive
> >
> >
>
>
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