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Sat 03/27/04


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:41 AM - Re: 582 oil reservoir level (Robert Beck)
     2. 03:50 AM - 532 replacement starter (David Dawe)
     3. 04:43 AM - Re: 582 oil reservoir level (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
     4. 06:30 AM - Re: Looking for List Member (davestapa@juno.com)
     5. 08:27 AM - Prop Wanted (Bruce Harrington)
     6. 09:32 AM - Used Items For Sale (Bruce Harrington)
     7. 11:15 AM - Re: NSI EA-81 and CAP 140 operation questions (Vic Jacko)
     8. 11:37 AM - Rocky Mountain Instruments - MicroEncoder on ebay (Steve Zakreski)
     9. 12:46 PM - Main Gear (Dee Young)
    10. 01:02 PM - Re: Rocky Mountain Instruments - MicroEncoder on ebay (Michel Gordillo)
    11. 02:22 PM - Santa Maria CA Fly-in (April 30-May 2) (Cory Emberson)
    12. 05:52 PM - Re: Fuel Flow (Rick)
    13. 05:52 PM - Re: NSI EA-81 and CAP 140 operation questions (Rick)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:41:07 AM PST US
    From: "Robert Beck" <trevor@inter.net>
    Subject: Re: 582 oil reservoir level
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Robert Beck" <trevor@inter.net> Ron: When I built my Model IV 1050 Skystar sold a small door kit for the upper cowl that flips open right above the oil reservoir. Takes 5 seconds.You can check and add oil without removing the cowl. That's the way to go. Check the oil everyime fuel is added. Or anytime. Having to remove the cowl for something adding oil is a pain, especially on cross countries. Robert Beck > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron Carroll" <RonCarr@Qwest.Net> > > I was recently shocked to see the low oil level in my reservoir, which is > mounted on the firewall, inside the engine compartment. I nearly ran out > without knowing it. I know that I will start checking it regularly, based > on tach-time, but wonder if there is some sort of reliable means of > monitoring the level without removing the cowl? > > The reason for my surprise was because my last Rotax 2-stroke plane had an > oil injected 503 that seemed to go FOREVER on very little oil. Of course > the reservoir was in constant plain view, so Murphy's law is now in effect. > The adjustment of the oil is per Rotax instructions, but the 582 seems to be > using a lot of oil. However, I've never actually calculated consumption > based on fuel burn. I will! > > Ron Carroll - KF3/582 > Independence, Oregon > >


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    Time: 03:50:13 AM PST US
    From: "David Dawe" <davedawe@3web.net>
    Subject: 532 replacement starter
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Dawe" <davedawe@3web.net> Anyone replaced the 532 starter with a lower priced unit? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Spor Pilot Rule > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > Just got this from the AOPA, > > "SPORT PILOT RULE UNEXPECTEDLY RETURNS TO FAA > > The FAA has temporarily withdrawn the proposed Sport > Pilot rule from consideration by the federal Office of > Management and Budget. Just before a 90-day review > period expired, FAA Administrator Marion Blakey > ordered the proposal withdrawn so that the agency > could answer questions about its economic costs and > benefits. The questions were raised during the OMB > review, essentially the final step in the approval > process for the new Sport Pilot certificate and > accompanying Light-Sport Aircraft category. AOPA has > supported the Sport Pilot rule in large part because > of the proposal's recognition that a driver's license > is adequate evidence of medical fitness to fly." > > Kurt S. > > __________________________________ > >


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    Time: 04:43:59 AM PST US
    From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 582 oil reservoir level
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 3/27/04 3:41:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, trevor@inter.net writes: > > That's the way to go. Check the oil everyime fuel is added. Or anytime. > Having to remove the cowl for something adding oil is a pain, especially on > cross countries. > > I check my level at each preflight. Another point concerning the oil resivor is the fact that the system is "Gravity" flow. I noticed that there is about 2 or more inches of oil that is "UNUSABLE". With the tailwheel on the ground, put a small bullet level from the engine oil input to the tank and you may find the same thing. Don Smythe DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 06:30:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Looking for List Member
    From: davestapa@juno.com
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: davestapa@juno.com If Rex Heffran is on the list please e-mail me at davestapa@juno.com. David Estapa Woodstock, GA S5 N97DE (Final Assembly) Do Not Archive


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    Time: 08:27:59 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
    Subject: Prop Wanted
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net> A friend of mine is looking for a used prop for his tractor Rotax 503. Please email me if you know of one for sale. Double click here: aerowood@mcsi.net Thanks, bh DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 09:32:44 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
    "Sonexplans" <sonexplans@yahoogroups.com>, "Kitfox List" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: Used Items For Sale
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net> I have the following used items for sale. All in excellent shape. Chief Aircraft brand 2 1/4" Ammeter CAA01, +/-40amp, $44 at Chief. Shunt, 40 amp, 40 mv, used with above ammeter, $15 at Chief. Potter & Brumfield 1 amp Circuit Breaker, W58-XC4C12A-1, used with above ammeter, $7.80 at ACS. As a package, retailed at $66.80, I'll send, including postage, for $45. UMA 2 1/4" Altimiter, 0-20K, In Hg, $184.95 at Chief. (I replaced with 0-10K) First $130 gets it, including shipping. Double click aerowood@mcsi.net if interested. Bruce Harrington ex N194KF 582ed Kitfox IV-1200, 800+ hrs N321SX Sonex, Jab 3300ed, 65.0 hrs Do not archive


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    Time: 11:15:27 AM PST US
    From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: NSI EA-81 and CAP 140 operation questions
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net> Kurt, we are not talking about pounds of boost using the manifold pressure gauge. We are using "inches" of manifold pressure rather than vacuum. If you were at sea level the MP gauge will indicate the current pressure altitude without your engine running. You will get over 30 inches once your turbo starts producing boost. I don't remember the exact figures but 6 pounds of boost is almost one half atmosphere (14.7 divided by 2) thus it should indicate close to 45 inches of manifold pressure. Fourteen pounds of boost would give you about 60 inches of manifold pressure. Yes your manifold pressure gauge will certainly indicate your boost pressures. ( If there is anyone who has the exact conversion numbers please chime in and help this old mind remember.) Vic From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI EA-81 and CAP 140 operation questions > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > Thanks Vic, > > I have been wondering about this ever since I started > flying my plane. (This, as you can tell, is my first > turbo.) Unless I run a good bit of power, this turbo > doesn't move into the boost range on my engine. For > example, during engine runup, it still shows about > 5-6" vacuum at 2750 rpm with the prop set for takeoff. > I don't usually pull more power than that on the > ground, except for takeoff, so having the vacuum > reading is still useful for ground ops/tuning. IMHO > > Lance gives readings of 16" vacuum for idle, 0-8 lbs > boost in cruise and 10-11 lbs boost at max power for > my engine. I have the small turbo and I think > everyone else here with an NSI turbo has the large > one. They get 4 lbs more boost, according to Lance, > and now I doubt my numbers will match theirs at higher > power. > > I chose the smaller turbo for engine reliability. I > figured it would have enough power, even in the high > country. > > Still, some are talking of boost numbers around 22-29 > lbs. Their engines must be even more powerful than my > data sheet indicates. > > After looking at all that, I decided to change my > order and buy the vacuum/boost gauge for my plane. I > believe my engine will always operate withing its > range, but we will see. If mine is boosted 4 lbs less > than the standard here, I shouldn't exceed 25 lbs. > But since this is my first turbo, I could certainly be > wrong. > > If Lance's numbers are right, I wouldn't even move off > the peg with a 10-50 lb gauge in cruise. It would > only indicate at the bottom of the scale on takeoff. > > In a few weeks I should find out. The plane is down > now for maintenance and the scoop fabrication. > > Kurt S. > > --- Vic Jacko <vicwj@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Kurt, You would be best served by using an aircraft > > manifold pressure gauge which reads 10 to 50 > > inches. IMHO! > > > > Vic > .............. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > > Ok, > > > > > > I did some looking and went and ordered a VDO > > Boost > > > gauge. Thought I would stay with the same Lance > > motif > > > to make the change easier. > > > > > > I was concerned when you guys talk about 44" etc, > > but > > > then I remembered that you wrote inches and not > > lbs. > > > Fourty four lbs would be some boost! > > > > > > I ordered a 0-30 LB gauge from PepBoys for 37.09 > > after > > > tax. Here is a web page of the same thing. > > > > > > > > > <http://www.egauges.com/vdo_mult.asp?Type=Turbo_Boost&Series=Cockpit&Cart=> > > > > > > Now why did I have to go and look that up? I > > wonder > > > if I shouldn't have ordered this one instead? Ha > > ha. > > > It is vacuum and boost. Just found it now. And > > it is > > > cheaper... > > > > > > > > > <http://www.egauges.com/vdo_mult.asp?Type=Turbo_Boost&Series=Vision&Cart=> > > > > > > Kurt S. > > __________________________________ > >


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    Time: 11:37:12 AM PST US
    From: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Rocky Mountain Instruments - MicroEncoder on ebay
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca> List I just put my Rocky Mountain Instruments MicroEncoder on ebay if anyone is interested. It's a great unit, but I already had all the flight instruments installed and decided not to use it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26436&item =2470134705 If anyone is also on the RV list and I would appreciate passing this info on to them. SteveZ Calgary


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    Time: 12:46:35 PM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: Main Gear
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com> I have a aluminum spring gear for a Kitfox on Ebay if anyone is interested. Dee Young Model II N345DY Do not archive http://moneycentral.msn.com/tax/home.asp


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    Time: 01:02:14 PM PST US
    From: "Michel Gordillo" <michelgordillo@telefonica.net>
    Subject: Re: Rocky Mountain Instruments - MicroEncoder on ebay
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michel Gordillo" <michelgordillo@telefonica.net> Done! Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Zakreski" <szakreski@shaw.ca> Subject: Kitfox-List: Rocky Mountain Instruments - MicroEncoder on ebay > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca> > > List > > I just put my Rocky Mountain Instruments MicroEncoder on ebay if anyone is > interested. It's a great unit, but I already had all the flight instruments > installed and decided not to use it. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26436&item > =2470134705 > > If anyone is also on the RV list and I would appreciate passing this info on > to them. > > SteveZ > Calgary >


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    Time: 02:22:29 PM PST US
    From: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Santa Maria CA Fly-in (April 30-May 2)
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net> Hello everyone! With Matt Dralle's blessing (thank you, Matt!), I'm pleased to post this announcement for a terrific aviation fly-in weekend. SMXgig (in Santa Maria, CA) has become the year's largest face-to-face get-together of electronically networked aviators. We hope you'll plan to attend because we expect this year's gig to be the best ever. People come from all over the country (and sometimes overseas) to attend, and most of the sessions qualify for FAA Wings cards. The dates are 4/30-5/2/04 (Friday-Sunday) - it's a lot of fun, and a great chance for pilots from all over to mingle and share aviation stories, ideas, etc. The announcement below contains most of the crucial information, and you can get the rest from the website (www.smxgig.org). If you have any questions at all, just let me know, and thanks! ~~Cory Emberson KHWD >>> NOTICE TO AIRMEN! <<< Announcing the Sixteenth Annual SMXgig to be held on April 30 - May 2, 2004 at the Radisson on the Santa Maria (CA) Airport (aka SMX) www.smxgig.org SMXgig will be April 30 - May 2, 2004, at the Santa Maria Radisson. This year, our featured speaker after Friday night's dinner will be Rod Machado! "MACH 2 WITH MACHADO" is the byline Rod Machado has earned for his rapid fire delivery at his lively safety seminars and keynote speeches. His programs are information-packed, energetic, and humorous. He has spoken in all fifty of the United States and in Europe sharing his fresh approach to aviation education. If you can make it, please do. It's going to be pretty special. More information and the announcement/ registration info is available at www.smxgig.org You may also contact me by email at: cory@smxgig.org. All technical sessions will be held in the Enterprise Ballroom at the SMX Radisson. Each session will last about an hour. We schedule four tech sessions on Saturday morning, and four on Sunday morning. Most of the speakers are set (I'm still firming up a couple of slots - I'm working on a session about Experimentals): MIKE BUSCH - The Art and Science of Troubleshooting Your A frequently, that person is you. That's particularly true of problems that occur only in-flight and/or are intermittent. This session offers methodology for troubleshooting aimed at aircraft owners who aren't A&Ps. ED WILLIAMS - GPS - How It Works, and How to Work It Ed is a nuclear physicist working at Lawrence Livermore Labs. Ed does a remarkable job of making physics phun! BRENT BLUE, M.D. - Pilot Medicals: How to Avoid Problems with the FAA Brent is an AME Advocate, who specializes in helping the tough cases renew their medicals. He's a former member of EAA's medical advisory committee. DOUG RITTER - Equipping Yourself To Survive - Personal Survival Gear for Pilots Doug is a survival evangelist, personally driven to help pilots live through whatever comes next. www.equipped.org PAUL MILLNER - The Future of Avgas Paul works with ChevronTexaco, and is right in the middle of the industry developments regarding our fuel of choice. MARY DUFFY & UWE LEMKE - Flying in Europe Mary and Uwe are a Scot and a German who live in the San Francisco Bay Area, but return "home" often. As always, each qualifying session will get you a WINGS Safety Session card. Our Saturday evening event should be a delicious one! At 5:45 p.m., the BFUB (Big Fat Ugly Bus) will arrive at the Santa Maria Radisson to bring us to the Far Western Tavern for dinner in beautiful Guadalupe (www.farwesterntavern.com). DOLLARS AND CENTS Just as in previous years, there will be one flat all-encompassing "gig" fee that covers all events that involve significant out-of-pocket costs for the organizers. The fee is $160 per person, and will cover: - Friday afternoon welcome party - Friday evening dinner banquet - Saturday and Sunday tech sessions - Saturday afternoon lunch - Saturday evening dinner at the Far Western Tavern in Guadalupe - Meeting rooms and coffee service at the Santa Maria Radisson - Transportation to (and from) the Far Western Tavern Lodging at the SMX Radisson will cost $89.00/night for either a single or double room, which is far below the regular hotel room rate. Be sure you check in as a SMXgig attendee and get the special rate. We have our definitive preference listed with the hotel for rampside rooms - early registration can only help, but of course, the rampside rooms are subject to availability depending on how many existing guests are in those rooms. You do not need to register with the hotel - just give me your preferences, and I will take care of the reservations. Important: This year, our final rooming lists are due to the hotel on April 11, 2004 (the even of Sun 'n Fun), which will guarantee space and the group rate. The hotel will accept additional room reservations after that, on a space- and rate-available basis. They will try their best to accommodate us after that date, but the hotel is already sold out for the weekend. The website (www.smxgig.org) has detailed information about the schedule, meals, hotel accommodations, and online registration. If you'd like your own announcement/registration emailed to you, or have any other questions, just let me know. (cory@smxgig.org or bootless@earthlink.net ). Thanks, and see you there! best, Cory Emberson


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    Time: 05:52:40 PM PST US
    From: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
    Subject: Fuel Flow
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net> Kurt, you probable know this but you cannot hand prop the engine with the NSI redrive........hey I should. It would be a kick. Then I could tell them they broke it from turning it to hard. Good one gotta do it. :) Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kurt schrader Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel Flow --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Rick, Yes, digital would be nice. So I guess you haven't asked anyone to help prop start your NSI engine yet? :-) Fuel flow is another area I wondered about. Lance's data sheet for my engine runs up to 19 gal/hr! I thought it might be reading double, but Lance told me a while back, that was a good number. To me, that would be appropriate for well over 300 hp. (?) Today I had a chance to watch F/F more carefully in flight and photographed the engine instruments during full power climbs. (This was due to my EGT's being good.....today. Only 1350 for full power, set rich!) My F/F gauge was at 10, which is the upper limit, for each 4400 rpm climb. I have been comparing the before and after fuel quantities with the totalizer for every flight. Yes, I need to calibrate it. I'll do a ground check/adjustment of it when I pump it dry for my maintenence checks coming up. Funny thing is that it seems to always be about 2 gal short, no matter what the flight burn. Well, this plane is probably a little moody. I better have a word with the builder. :-) Kurt S. .............. --- Rick <turboflyer@comcast.net> wrote: > > I purchased one of the cheap non TSo ones from > Spruce. Would love to have > the new digital with lights but hey need to finish > this engine. > I did replace the fuel flow with a JPI and it is > really nice, accurate and > gives a lot of information for the buck. > Yep, not much compares to the fox with a turbo. Love > the faces when running > beta on landing. Even the really old farts that > never get off the bench > come over and want to know how I put that turbine in > :). __________________________________


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    Time: 05:52:40 PM PST US
    From: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
    Subject: NSI EA-81 and CAP 140 operation questions
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net> Kurt , if the scoop comes out let me know. Don't throw away the mold. You may have a business going. I have one but not fitted. In coming air at idle seems to be a problem. I would suggest a pull through fan setup for hot idle days, long taxi. 45in MP is right. No one I know of is making the numbers you stated unless they have done some serious make over like injection, intercoolers and electronic boost control. It would be a big bomb for sure. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kurt schrader Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI EA-81 and CAP 140 operation questions --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Thanks Vic, I have been wondering about this ever since I started flying my plane. (This, as you can tell, is my first turbo.) > it is > > cheaper... > > > > > <http://www.egauges.com/vdo_mult.asp?Type=Turbo_Boost&Series=Vision&Cart=> > > > > Kurt S. __________________________________




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