---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/18/04: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:48 AM - OT: To Kurt Schrader (Michel Verheughe) 2. 06:21 AM - Re: Gap Sealing Tape:shelf liner (Tom Jones) 3. 08:35 AM - Re: Crosswind limits (kerrjohna@comcast.net) 4. 10:34 PM - Re: Crosswind limits ...Spin, (jimshumaker) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:51 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Kitfox-List: OT: To Kurt Schrader --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe Kurt, I have tried twice to send you an email private but it bounces back. If you have changed your address, please send me a note, thanks. Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:06 AM PST US From: Tom Jones Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Gap Sealing Tape:shelf liner --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tom Jones > Doesn't sound like we can! :-) Name the store and if possible the > product........will check that out too! I haven't a clue as to what to look > for and our local Wally World doesn't carry anything like that. Where, how, > and when.......... > Sid Sid, here's one brand available at "Office Depot" http://www.office-discounts-online.com/store/SchoolCraftMaterials_CraftAccessories/950816.asp I use this for covering documents...check lists etc...it is very flexible and seems to last forever. A 24 inch X 36 foot roll was $5.99. Here's the company web site http://www.kittrich.com/ Click on "Magic Cover" Tom Jones ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:33 AM PST US From: kerrjohna@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Crosswind limits --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net practice slipping at your (slow) approach speed until you are comfortable with the handling. > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Tc9008@aol.com > > On short field landing over trees, is it better to slow and pull the stick back > to get your speed down or to slip down? my problem with slipping is the speed at > flare. it too hot to touch down. > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:18 PM PST US From: "jimshumaker" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Crosswind limits ...Spin, --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" In Salinas we have two of the worlds best acro pilots. Wayne Handley holds the worlds record for most inverted flat spins. While doing some spin testing for an Agricultural Aircraft company he found that although the plane was difficult to get into a spin, it would not recover from one spin mode without a spin chute deployment. Yes the plane had a long wing and was short coupled. Sean D Tucker stepped out of a Pitts he was practicing in when it would not recover. Of course it recovered and flew away after he was gone. So even certified, spin resistant and profesional pilot does not guaranty spin recovery. Perhaps this is the reason spins are no longer required by the FAA for licensing. Jim Shumaker ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Crosswind limits ...Spin, > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com > > Wow 25,000 hours? er um ...my total now is only around 600 > > But, I design model, radio control aircraft for a living (past 25 years) and > the evolutionary process for us is very fast, allowing us to make many > changes, easily and quickly. We can learn a lot. > > The KF is a great plane, and not so great. The KF 2 I own, I love, BUT, its > short coupled and under-finned. We would never even consider doing a model > this way. I can only imagine, that with an aft CG location, is a formula for > disaster. I speak only from practical experience from models. Once spinning, I > suspect it could go flat further making recovery very difficult. > > With a forward CG location, it MIGHT be OK? But man, no way I want to take > that chance. > > Spinning can vary a lot. When they test a production plane I bet the process > is under a wide CG range, different types of entry, different weights and so > on. > > Unless someone can prove to me it was done with a plane... I wont do it.... > > Rent an aerobat like a Pitts, Extra, Cessna aerobat etc. and get > isntruction. There are many that are a blast. > > I still talk about my limited dual ( 4 hours) in a Pitts S2B wow! I mean > really big wow! > > It was with a pro, in a certified aerobatic plane and I had a chute..... > > Dave > > KF 2 582 > >