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1. 09:34 AM - Re: Whoa, hold on there (Scott McClintock)
2. 10:30 AM - EAA Briefs OMB/Sport Pilot (Steve Cooper)
3. 01:50 PM - OT: Anything to do in New York? (Michel Verheughe)
4. 03:10 PM - Plane crash (Clem Nichols)
5. 03:54 PM - Fire extinguisher (Thomas Lee)
6. 03:55 PM - Re: OT: Anything to do in New York? (RiteAngle3@aol.com)
7. 03:57 PM - New E-mail (Bryan Lee Fisher)
8. 06:07 PM - Re: Fire extinguisher (John E. King)
9. 06:19 PM - Re: OT: Anything to do in New York? (John E. King)
10. 06:54 PM - Re: Fire extinguisher (RiteAngle3@aol.com)
11. 06:56 PM - Anything to do (hausding, sid)
12. 07:06 PM - Re: Fire extinguisher (gary)
13. 08:20 PM - Re: Kitfox on Full Lotus Floats (Shane Sather)
14. 08:27 PM - Re: Plane crash (JMCBEAN)
15. 08:53 PM - Re: Kitfox on Full Lotus Floats (Marc Arseneault)
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| Subject: | Re: Whoa, hold on there |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
John,
Now that you've "sworn off" Sun-n-Bum are you up for yet another Alaska Trip?
If you want to increase your adventure level, come up in July and fly with us to
Russia.
Contact me off list if you want the details. "Kitfoxes to Commie-land" :-)
Scott in Nome
"John E. King" wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
>
> Scott,
>
> Thanks for the memories. I checked out Circle Hot Springs, Bettles,
> Chena Hot Springs, Fairbanks and Anaktuvuk Pass Airports on the web site
> just for memories sake. We visited these airports on the Alaska trip.
> Recognized every detail. Great web site.
>
> --
> John King
> Warrenton, VA
>
> Scott McClintock wrote:
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
> >
> >OK, I see I sparked some interest. So before too many of you ask for
> >more "scary" pictures, just go to this link.
> >www.alaska.faa.gov/fai/airports2.htm
> >All the "scary" airports are there and you can get a pretty good idea of
> >the kind of terrain I'm flying over.
> >I think you all will enjoy this.
> >Scott in Nome
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | EAA Briefs OMB/Sport Pilot |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
EAA BRIEFS TOP OMB OFFICIALS ON SPORT PILOT
Response to EAA-initiated petition impresses federal agency
April 29, 2004 - EAA continued the final push to make the new sport
pilot/light-sport aircraft regulations a reality on Wednesday, as EAA's Vice
President of Government and Industry Programs, Earl Lawrence briefed top
officials of the federal Office of Management and Budget in Washington, D.C.
Lawrence told the OMB officials, which included Donald Arbuckle,
Deputy Administrator of Information and Regulatory Affairs, that sport pilot
is the right amount of regulation at the right moment to benefit the general
aviation industry. Lawrence was joined by Phil Lockwood and Eric Tucker,
members of the light aircraft industry who, along with Lawrence, serve on
the ASTM International executive committee that is creating manufacturing
specifications for light-sport aircraft.
"This briefing was very productive for both sides," Lawrence said.
"OMB was particularly impressed at the support of the aviation community for
the sport pilot rule, as indicated by EAA's petition that gathered more than
10,000 signatures and Congressional backing in less than 10 days this month.
It showed how deeply sentiment runs in favor of this new rule among
aviators."
Lawrence delivered the remaining signatures collected on the petition
last weekend through the EAA website, adding to the more than 8,000 already
forwarded to OMB by Congressional leaders late last week.
EAA requested the meeting with OMB earlier this month and was invited
by the agency to present additional background on how the rule would create
opportunities for both individual pilots and the aviation industry in
general. Lawrence also offered OMB the continuing support of EAA, which has
spearheaded efforts to create the sport pilot rule for more than a decade.
"I felt our briefing to OMB on Wednesday helped solidify the
opportunities presented by adoption of the rule," Lawrence said. "We're glad
EAA could support its members by reaching top national policymakers to
provide background and answer their questions on sport pilot. This rule will
promote aviation in many new areas and prepare many people to enjoy flying
as a recreation."
The Federal Aviation Administration, which had pulled the sport pilot
proposal back from OMB late last month to clarify several points, continues
its discussions with OMB to finalize the rule. Once finalized by OMB, the
rule moves forward to final publication.
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| Subject: | OT: Anything to do in New York? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Off-topic.
I'll be in New York from the 5th to the 10th of May, with my son. We'll visit
the city and drive around just to "feel America." Originally we were to fly to
Seattle but, travelling with stand-by tickets, Seattle was already overbooked.
... anything special to do for a Kitfox owner in New York and surroundings?
Thanks in advance.
Michel
do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Article in today's edition of the Louisville (Ky) Courier Journal:
"Experimental plane crashes in Bath Couty (Ky); 2 aboard hurt. The article goes
on to say that the pilot was John Black of Springboro, Ohio, and the passenger
was his wife, Crystal. The plane was an amateur built Kitfox according to
a spokesperson for the state Division of Emergency Management. Does anyone know
these folks?
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| Subject: | Fire extinguisher |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Thomas Lee <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
Last week I have seen two experimentals strapped a Halon fire
extinguisher 2.5"dia x10" between their seats.
I was wondering if there is an engine fire in air, is it possible to
spray the engine since the firewall
is blocking the way.
thomas. Vixen 912 UL, 390 hr.
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| Subject: | Re: OT: Anything to do in New York? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com
Michel,
Here is an advance "WELCOME" to the USA, Hope you have a great time! I'll
be away from the office during that time, so have a good one, and look forward
to hearing from you once back home!
Lots of great people everywhere, probably a few of the others, but there are
a few everywhere:-) I'm sure you will find some "Fox" owners replaying to
your posting.
Elbie, in the NW US
EM Aviation
www.riteangle.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bryan Lee Fisher" <fisher@osprey.net>
Just wanted to let everyone know that we have a new e-mail address. 912ksb@cableone.net
So put it in your address book.
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| Subject: | Re: Fire extinguisher |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
Thomas,
I have a fire extinguisher handy just behind the seat of my Series 6. I
was not intended to put out fires forward of the firewall while in
flight. I want it handy while on the ground or when a fire starts while
taxing. It is also good to have if a fire starts behind the panel or
elsewhere in the cabin at any time. A handy fire extinguisher used
quickly just might save you the horror of standing by while watching
your prized investment quickly go up in flames.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Thomas Lee wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Thomas Lee <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
>
>Last week I have seen two experimentals strapped a Halon fire
>extinguisher 2.5"dia x10" between their seats.
>I was wondering if there is an engine fire in air, is it possible to
>spray the engine since the firewall
>is blocking the way.
>
>thomas. Vixen 912 UL, 390 hr.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: OT: Anything to do in New York? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
Michel,
Too bad you are not going to be near Washington, DC. The new Air &
Space Museum at Dulles Airport just opened earlier in the year and there
is a lot of beautiful aircraft on display. I live in Warrenton,
Virginia just 50 miles west of Washington and would ge glad to let you
fly a Series 6. Something to think about.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>Off-topic.
>
>I'll be in New York from the 5th to the 10th of May, with my son. We'll visit
>the city and drive around just to "feel America." Originally we were to fly to
>Seattle but, travelling with stand-by tickets, Seattle was already overbooked.
>
>... anything special to do for a Kitfox owner in New York and surroundings?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Michel
>
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fire extinguisher |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com
I have seen two experimentals strapped a Halon fire
>extinguisher 2.5"dia x10" between their seats.
If you EVER had smoke in the cockpit you would know why! I've been there
twice, scary situations. Once in a Funk, [1963 caused by smoking back then] other
time in a MD-80. Fire extinguisher would have helped in the Funk, and I was
very lucky to get it out without one, other time checklist & CB took care of
it. But pulse rate stayed pretty high for a couple hours! Was enough smoke the
first class flight attendant came up and asked where the electrical smoke was
coming from! 2AM or so redeye LaGuardia to Dallas. Will guarantee you
getting sleepy was not a problem after that!
Elbie
Do Not Archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net>
Mikey, if you don't take him up on this, I might beat you to it!
:-) Buy a movie on NY, or the Big Apple...........haaarumph. windy
and dirty.............. Take Big John up on his offer, and see DC. More
tourist friendly anyway. Sailboats too.
Sid
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Michel,
Too bad you are not going to be near Washington, DC. The new Air &
Space Museum at Dulles Airport just opened earlier in the year and there
is a lot of beautiful aircraft on display. I live in Warrenton,
Virginia just 50 miles west of Washington and would ge glad to let you
fly a Series 6. Something to think about.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
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| Subject: | Re: Fire extinguisher |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "gary" <FlyinK@Efortress.com>
I have heard of people using tubing to pass thru the firewall and disburse
the extinguisher in the engine compartment. The fire extinguisher can be
left in-place connected to the tubing for FWF use or pulled out and used in
the cabin. Pretty slick idea. Hopefully a FWF fire with a good firewall
will go out after the fuel is shut off so maybe it's not an issue. I dunno.
Glad I can't speak from experience. I've seen a FWF system for sale thru
summit racing but it's 5 lbs I think. Comes with the tubing, not sure if
it's a dual-use system or just engine compartment.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Lee" <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fire extinguisher
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Thomas Lee <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
>
> Last week I have seen two experimentals strapped a Halon fire
> extinguisher 2.5"dia x10" between their seats.
> I was wondering if there is an engine fire in air, is it possible to
> spray the engine since the firewall
> is blocking the way.
>
> thomas. Vixen 912 UL, 390 hr.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox on Full Lotus Floats |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Shane Sather" <jeffery@polarnet.ca>
Hello Mark did you get the picture I sent to you
Shane
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox on Full Lotus Floats
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Arseneault"
<northernultralights@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Would anybody have pics of a Kitfox on Full Lotus Floats that they would
be able to send to me? It would be greatly appreciated! Please email me off
list at northernultralights@hotmail .com.
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marc Arseneault
> Ontario Canada
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net>
I'm sorry to hear about that... It was a Series 5 914 powered.. Hope they
are all right....
Blue Skies!!
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clem Nichols
Subject: Kitfox-List: Plane crash
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Article in today's edition of the Louisville (Ky) Courier Journal:
"Experimental plane crashes in Bath Couty (Ky); 2 aboard hurt. The article
goes on to say that the pilot was John Black of Springboro, Ohio, and the
passenger was his wife, Crystal. The plane was an amateur built Kitfox
according to a spokesperson for the state Division of Emergency Management.
Does anyone know these folks?
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox on Full Lotus Floats |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com>
Hi Shane,
I haven't received it yet but I definetly would like one and if you don't mind,
I will have it posted on the Full Lotus website.
Best Regards,
Marc Arseneault
Ontario Canada
From: "Shane Sather" jeffery@polarnet.ca Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com To:
kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox on Full Lotus Floats
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:18:15 -0600 -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Shane
Sather" jeffery@polarnet.ca Hello Mark did you get the picture I sent to
you Shane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Arseneault" northernultralights@hotmail.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox on
Full Lotus Floats -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Arseneault" northernultralights@hotmail.com
Would anybody have pics of a Kitfox on Full Lotus
Floats that they would be able to send to me? It would be
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