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Tue 05/11/04


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 05:40 AM - Re: Fuel Vent Lines (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
     2. 07:57 AM - routing brake lines - Kitfox 2 (Marco Menezes)
     3. 07:57 AM - Fuel Gauges for kitfox (msg.03.05.04.23:58:57.16097 msg.03.12.04.23:58:55.10542 msg.04.01.04.23:58:44.3779 msg.05.03.04.23:58:54.20080 msg.05.11.04.05:40:56.29733 msg.05.11.04.07:57:29.22504 msg.05.11.04.07:57:29.22508 msg.05.11.04.08:11:47.17608 msg.05.11.04.08:43:34.3358 msg.05.11.04.08:47:12.13046 msg.05.11.04.08:47:12.13123 msg.05.11.04.10:30:12.18365 msg.05.11.04.10:31:01.20923 msg.05.11.04.12:33:40.18088 msg.05.11.04.13:22:53.15878 msg.05.11.04.14:36:49.19109 msg.05.11.04.15:11:38.5846 msg.05.11.04.17:27:01.8573 msg.05.11.04.19:12:33.17789 msg.05.11.04.22:41:03.8730 msg.12.04.03.23:59:58.12870 msg.12.06.03.23:58:57.10517 web_browse.day.0 web_browse.day.1 web_browse.day.2 web_browse.day.3 web_browse.day.4 web_browse.day.5 web_browse.day.6)
     4. 08:11 AM - Re: Fuel Gauges for kitfox (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
     5. 08:43 AM - Re: routing brake lines - Kitfox 2 (Bruce Harrington)
     6. 08:47 AM - Re: A New Fox Takes to the Air (Paul Seehafer)
     7. 08:47 AM - Re: A New Fox Takes to the Air (Paul Seehafer)
     8. 10:30 AM - Re: Fuel Vent Lines (Bob Unternaehrer)
     9. 10:31 AM - Re: routing brake lines - Kitfox 2 (Bob Unternaehrer)
    10. 12:33 PM - I got it. Re: Please help! Bungee Cord? (Harris, Robert)
    11. 01:22 PM - Re: routing brake lines - Kitfox 2 (hausding, sid)
    12. 02:36 PM - Re: Fuel Vent Lines (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
    13. 03:11 PM - Re: I got it. Bungee Cord? (flier)
    14. 05:27 PM - Re: routing brake lines - Kitfox 2 (Jerry Liles)
    15. 07:12 PM - Re: routing brake lines - Kitfox 2 (Glenn Horne)
    16. 10:41 PM - Need Lights (Andy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:40:56 AM PST US
    From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fuel Vent Lines
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 5/10/04 6:20:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com writes: > stressing it like that. I just bought 1/4 and 3/8ths > Polyurethane for fuel lines and sight gauges. Don S. > said his works well. He has had them longer, so.... > > Pass to you Don.... How are your's doing? > > Kurt S. > Kurt Doing fine. Can't speak to the sight glasses since I use 12 VDC gauges. I have always used 3/8 Polyurethane for the main tank fuel lines and 1/4 for the vent lines. I have never had a problem with shrinkage or any other problem. However, I change all my fuel lines every other year. For a few bucks, what the heck. Also gives you a better chance to see behind the scenes during the inspection. The stuff is a bear to cut compared to Tygon or other plastic tubing. Gives great wear resistance. Polyurethane will yellow a bit after time. Don Smythe DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:57:29 AM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: routing brake lines - Kitfox 2
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com> I've just acquired a "98% completed" Kitfox 2. Can anyone advise me on recommended method to pass 3/16 od "nylaflow" brakeline tubing through fuselage covering? It would seem there would be some movement of the line where it passes through fuselage, imposing some strain on covering material and brakeline. Can't find anything about this in manuals. ---------------------------------


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    Time: 07:57:29 AM PST US
    From: "*" <caseclosed66@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Fuel Gauges for kitfox
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "*" <caseclosed66@hotmail.com> Just wondering, has anyone replaced the sight fuel gauges with panel mount electronic sender-gauge type gauges? I'm working on a KF IV rebuild and planning a new panel layout and was thinking that it would be nice to have panel mounted fuel gauges. thanks greg


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    Time: 08:11:47 AM PST US
    From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fuel Gauges for kitfox
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 5/11/04 7:59:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, caseclosed66@hotmail.com writes: > Just wondering, > > has anyone replaced the sight fuel gauges with panel mount electronic > sender-gauge type gauges? > > I'm working on a KF IV rebuild and planning a new panel layout and was > thinking that it would be nice to have panel mounted fuel gauges. > > thanks > greg > > Greg, I used two marine senders and gauges from West Marine. The sending units were installed in the ends of the tank. Had to do some bending and tweaking of the sending arms to get things to read properly. When adjusting and calibrating the senders, I used water for the test. Water and these senders do not get along well together. The units were quite erratic for some time after switching to gasoline in the tanks. I once removed them and cleaned with WD-40. That improved things quite a bit. However, the units still tend to read erratic even to this day. They might have worked better if I had never put them in water. Bottom line, the gauges look sharp and give you a ball park on fuel quantity. If I had it to do over, I might think harder on the subject. I still "HEAVILY" depend on eye ball checks for fuel. Don Smythe


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    Time: 08:43:34 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
    Subject: Re: routing brake lines - Kitfox 2
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net> Hi Marco, Pass the line thru the fabric where there is fabric reinforcement. There is extra fabric (finish tapes) at the gear leg attach brackets. Or add a patch of fabric where you want to route the line thru the covering. Cheers, bh > I've just acquired a "98% completed" Kitfox 2. Can anyone advise me on recommended method to pass 3/16 od "nylaflow" brakeline tubing through fuselage covering? It would seem there would be some movement of the line where it passes through fuselage, imposing some strain on covering material and brakeline. Can't find anything about this in manuals.


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    Time: 08:47:12 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
    Subject: Re: A New Fox Takes to the Air
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com> Thanks for the info John. I was curious if Michaels impressive top speed may be related to the blades being the medium type verses the ultralight blade most others appear to be using? What's been your experience? Also, curious if you have any experience with the IVO constant speed controller? Looks like a neat gizmo, but I can't quite figure out where I would fit it in my IV's (already full) panel, and yet be operated easily by the pilot. Plus, I was hoping for some info from people operating it before I took the plunge. My IV will be on amphibs so I will always be dialing the prop pitch down for takeoff, and up for cruise. So if you (or anyone else) have any experience with one of these I sure would like to hear about it. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: A New Fox Takes to the Air > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "JMCBEAN" <JDMCBEAN@cableone.net> > > Paul, > The IVO has a constant speed controller if one chooses to install it. > Typically you'll find the electric in-flight adjustable version. Myself and > most if the Desert Fox flys with the IVO on the 912 and 912S and it works > great. I recently became a dealer of the IVO so if you need more info give > me a holler. > > Blue Skies!! > John & Debra McBean > "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Seehafer > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: A New Fox Takes to the Air > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com> > > Congratulations Michael! Sounds like a marvelous performing Kitfox!! > > Now tell us more about some of those mods you did. I'm curious how you > increased the baggage area and widened the cabin? Also, an IVO constant > speed prop? Do you like it? And what about those aerodynamic improvements > you did? Can you supply pictures? Any Kitfox that can VNE straight and > level with a 912 is worth hearing more about! > > Paul Seehafer > Central Wisconsin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Gibbs" <MichaelGibbs@cox.net> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Kitfox-List: A New Fox Takes to the Air > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net> > > > > Hi all, > > > > Last Tuesday evening (May 4th, 2004), Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster N728KF > > leapt into the air for the first time at Phoenix Deer Valley Airport. > > The 20 minute flight went perfectly and was followed by a pretty > > darned good landing, if I do say so myself. > > > > My small ground crew drew the attention of the local airport bums and > > soon there was quite a group on hand. As I taxied off the runway, > > the ground controller congratulated me on a successful first flight > > and asked if the crowd belonged to me. I thought for sure that > > someone had called the tower and told them this was its first flight, > > but I guess having watched me taxi around the ramp each evening for a > > week clued them in. > > > > N728KF was an 11 year effort and would not have been possible without > > the aid and support of the Desert Fox Squadron, especially Murle > > Williams, Phil Laker, and Steve Kellander. Their knowledge and > > expertise, combined with a lot of elbow grease, resulted in a long > > list of custom modifications including a cabin that is 4.5 inches > > wider than a stock Model IV; convertible nose wheel/tail wheel > > landing gear; a hard-floored baggage area three times the size of the > > factory sack; internally mounted antennas; an electronically > > controlled constant-speed propeller; a center console housing > > throttle, flaps, propeller, and parking brake controls; cabin > > speakers; a glove box; a panel-mounted Garmin GPSMAP-195; external > > inputs to the audio panel for a panel-mounted iPod MP3 player, custom > > upholstery; Murle's own electric pitch trim, and a host of > > aerodynamic improvements. > > > > N728KF is powered by a 100 HP Rotax 912 ULS engine turning a 3-bladed > > Ivo medium prop. Stopping power is provided by Matco, and is good > > enough to skid the tires if you press too hard. Empty weight is 660 > > lbs against a maximum gross weight of 1232 lbs and the empty CG is > > 11.57 inches. As of this writing, it has flown a total of 3.5 hours > > and there are 6 hours on the engine. > > > > Yesterday I explored the flight envelope out to 115 KIAS/132 MPH > > (corroborated by GPS) but was reluctant to open it up all the way due > > to the bumpy summer air that Phoenix is already experiencing. Based > > on its performance so far, Murle is confident it can exceed Vne in > > level flight (122 KIAS/140 MPH). More testing on the slow end is > > needed but for now it touches down very nicely around 40 KIAS/46 MPH > > with full flaps. > > > > As those of you who have "finished" an airplane know, they are never > > really finished. Still to come are wheel pants, prop spinner, > > radiator scoop, the side panels under the horizontal stabilizer, and > > a glareshield cover. > > > > Photos are on sportflight.com under 'completions' > > <http://www.sportflight.com/uploads/N728KF.jpg> and 'first flights' > > <http://www.sportflight.com/uploads/Taxi-Out.jpg> > > <http://www.sportflight.com/uploads/Climb-Out-Small.jpg>. > > > > I wish someone had warned me ahead of time that the Kitfox is not an > > airplane, it's an addiction! > > > > Mike Gibbs > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:47:12 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com>
    Subject: Re: A New Fox Takes to the Air
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul Seehafer" <av8rps@tznet.com> Thanks Michael: You answered all of my questions I had first time around, but now I have a few more. - Where did you put your header tank now that the baggage area occupies that space? - Can you provide us with a few picture of the widening of the fuselage that are as good as the baggage area you did? - Where did you locate your com antenna? In the fuselage or wings? Does it work well there? I'm glad to hear you found your airplane as much fun as everyone said it would be. I've been telling people that for years (ever since flying Avids starting in the mid-eighties) but much like you, unless they experience it first hand they really don't understand. Welcome to the club!!! Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Gibbs" <MichaelGibbs@cox.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: A New Fox Takes to the Air > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net> > > Thanks to everyone for the kind words! Over and over during those > long years of building, folks with finished planes would tell me how > much fun I would have when it was finished. In the back of my head > all I could think was, "After all this, it had better be fun." > > Well, in the short time I've been flying it I can honestly say it is > more fun than I ever imagined! I've been having a hard time > concentrating at work for thinking about when I can jump in the left > seat again :-) > > Paul Seehafer sez: > >Now tell us more about some of those mods you did. I'm curious how you > >increased the baggage area and widened the cabin? > > These are both innovations that Murle Williams pioneered. The > fuselage has steel plates welded to the bars that surround the door > frame, starting at the lower front and tapering out to full width > (2.25") at the lower rear, continuing that way up to the aft corner > (behind the shoulder area), then tapering back down to the tube level > at the top rear corner of the door. This plate is curled on the > outboard ends to allow for good fabric attachment. An added bonus is > that fewer tapes are needed on the sides of the fuselage because the > plates raise the fabric away from some tubes it would ordinarily > touch. The doors had to be bent some to fit the different shape of > the resulting door frame: > <http://www.sportflight.com/uploads/Wide-Body.jpg>. > > The baggage area starts at the rear of the seat and extends back as > far as the rear edge of the turtle deck and is formed of aluminum > angle attached to the tubes just above the flaperon mixer. The angle > forms a rectangle that frames the bottom of the baggage area. It has > a plastic floor that is reinforced with 3 additional angle braces > underneath. The sides and back are covered with the same fabric that > the plane is covered with while the front wall (against the back of > the seat) is a plastic panel. All the sides and the bottom are > covered with some lightweight upholstery fabric for looks: > <http://www.sportflight.com/uploads/Baggage-Area.jpg>. > > >...an IVO constant speed prop? Do you like it? > > Actually, I haven't been able to try it. As John McBean mentioned, > this is an electronic controller for the Ivo prop that monitors > engine speed and, based on a rotary knob that I mounted on the center > console, tries to maintain a set RPM. It requires some adjustments > that must be performed in flight (min and max controlling RPM, speed > window, etc.) and I can't do that and fly the plane at the same time. > It may be after the first 40 hours before I can really try it out. > > >And what about those aerodynamic improvements you did? Can you > >supply pictures? Any Kitfox that can VNE straight and level with a > >912 is worth hearing more about! > > I'm sure I'm not remembering everything, but here's what comes to > mind (not all of these are custom mods, some are SkyStar options). > It has fairings behind the gas caps that Murle makes; custom > streamlined tail struts; oversized, hand-shaped wooden lift strut > fairings (a 3 week effort!); a Safari-style cowling; a tube welded > down the center from the tube at the rear of the turtle deck to the > base of the vertical tail that changes the shape of the top of the > empennage; one piece, all lexan doors that close flush with the > cowling; Speedster wings; all internal antennas (except the > transponder); airfoil-shaped tail surfaces; and a one-piece, all > lexan turtle deck. > > Overall, I think the airframe is tight and clean as 'foxes go, but > the other half of the equation is that 912 ULS powerplant. With the > adjustable pitch Ivo prop on it, if I run the engine up to full power > it will drag me across the ramp with my feet stomped on the brakes! > I'd love to hook a scale up to the tail and try to measure the static > thrust it produces, but I'm told that it's difficult to get good > results. > > I hope this answers your questions, Paul. > > Mike > >


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    Time: 10:30:12 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Vent Lines
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> Don, What kind of 12V guages do you use and how did you install senders in the tanks. Wonder if there is a direct reading guage that could go into the end of the tanks like the early C-172 were made. Bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel Vent Lines > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com > > In a message dated 5/10/04 6:20:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com writes: > > > > stressing it like that. I just bought 1/4 and 3/8ths > > Polyurethane for fuel lines and sight gauges. Don S. > > said his works well. He has had them longer, so.... > > > > Pass to you Don.... How are your's doing? > > > > Kurt S. > > > > Kurt > Doing fine. Can't speak to the sight glasses since I use 12 VDC gauges. I > have always used 3/8 Polyurethane for the main tank fuel lines and 1/4 for the > vent lines. I have never had a problem with shrinkage or any other problem. > However, I change all my fuel lines every other year. For a few bucks, what > the heck. Also gives you a better chance to see behind the scenes during the > inspection. The stuff is a bear to cut compared to Tygon or other plastic > tubing. Gives great wear resistance. Polyurethane will yellow a bit after time. > > Don Smythe > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > --- > > ---


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    Time: 10:31:01 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
    Subject: Re: routing brake lines - Kitfox 2
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> Reinforce it with a piece of round pinked fabric. Bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marco Menezes" <msm_9949@yahoo.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: routing brake lines - Kitfox 2 > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com> > > I've just acquired a "98% completed" Kitfox 2. Can anyone advise me on recommended method to pass 3/16 od "nylaflow" brakeline tubing through fuselage covering? It would seem there would be some movement of the line where it passes through fuselage, imposing some strain on covering material and brakeline. Can't find anything about this in manuals. > > > --------------------------------- > > > --- > > ---


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    Time: 12:33:40 PM PST US
    From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
    Subject: Please help! Bungee Cord?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com> Thanks Charlie and others, I finally got six loops. Next year when I do my annual I might try 5 loops. Robert -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of broschart Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Please help! Bungee Cord? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: broschart <cfbflyer@localnet.com> you can try 5 if you can't get the 6 loops, your bungies might be a little different then others load the plane to gross and see how the gear looks, then put it up on cement blocks and see what happens when you push it off, set the prop so it doesn't hit any thing and don't be under anything when it comes down Have a good day - Charlie "Harris, Robert" wrote: > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com> > > Please Help? > > Does anybody have any tips on how to get my new bungee cords to wrap six > times on my Model II? I used some vice grips with duct tape like Charlie > suggested earlier but can only get it to wrap five times. I'm trying to do > this by myself. Somebody mentioned ties. How do you use ties? > Robert >


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    Time: 01:22:53 PM PST US
    From: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: routing brake lines - Kitfox 2
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net> I went way overboard. Put a cloth patch as a doubler on the outside, glued an aluminum circle on the inside as a backer, and then used a grommet too.. ..... Sid ------------------------ --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> Reinforce it with a piece of round pinked fabric. Bob U. > I've just acquired a "98% completed" Kitfox 2. Can anyone advise me on recommended method to pass 3/16 od "nylaflow" brakeline tubing through fuselage covering? It would seem there would be some movement of the line where it passes through fuselage, imposing some strain on covering material and brakeline. Can't find anything about this in manuals. >


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    Time: 02:36:49 PM PST US
    From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fuel Vent Lines
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 5/11/04 10:31:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, shilocom@c-magic.com writes: > Don, What kind of 12V guages do you use and how did you install senders in > the tanks. Wonder if there is a direct reading guage that could go into the > end of the tanks like the early C-172 were made. Bob U. > Bob, I'm going on memory here....I don't recall the name of the senders but the came from West Marine. The senders had a wire and float attached. Had to cut a hole in the end of the tank about 1-1/4" to be able to get the float inside. The flange on the float assy covered the hole and came with a gasket. Now, for the hard part, I fabricated a fiberglass shim about 1/4" thick that was epoxied inside the tank. I split the shim like a lock washer where I could separate the assy and work it through the hole in the tank. Prior to installing the shim, I drilled and installed nut plates that matched the holes in the sender flange. Once the shim was inside, I gooped it up with epxoy resin w/a filler to make it thick and non-runny. I used my finger (through the hole) to smooth out the goo on the inside being careful not to get the goo in the threads of the nutplates. I was afraid the original thickness of the tanks might not hold the senders but, with afterthought, I think an alum washer with the nut plates might have been good enough. The outer gasket between the flange and tank will hold the gasoline in. BTW, I forgot one thing....I made a small template of the tank end so I could slip in the sending unit and get the proper bends on the wire/float. Don Smythe DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 03:11:38 PM PST US
    "'kitfox-list@matronics.com'" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
    From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: I got it. Bungee Cord?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net> Tie wraps hold the loops. As you pull all the slack out with each wrap, a couple of loose tie wraps can be cinched up with the other hand to hold the loop to do the next wrap. Then you simply cut them out. It works well. The real trick is to get EVERY bit of slack out of each wrap. Personally, I've gotten to where it takes a lot more time to pull the seat out than it does to replace the bungees... Regards, Ted --- Original Message --- From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com> list@matronics.com> Subject: I got it. RE: Kitfox-List: Please help! Bungee Cord? >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com> > >Thanks Charlie and others, > >I finally got six loops. Next year when I do my annual I might try 5 loops. > >Robert > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of broschart >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Please help! Bungee Cord? > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: broschart <cfbflyer@localnet.com> > >you can try 5 if you can't get the 6 loops, your bungies might be a >little different then others >load the plane to gross and see how the gear looks, then put it up on >cement blocks and see what happens when you push it off, set the prop so >it doesn't hit any thing and don't be under anything when it comes down > >Have a good day - Charlie > >"Harris, Robert" wrote: >>


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    Time: 05:27:01 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
    Subject: Re: routing brake lines - Kitfox 2
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com> Put a drain grommet where the hose passes through and double patch. Marco Menezes wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com> > >I've just acquired a "98% completed" Kitfox 2. Can anyone advise me on recommended method to pass 3/16 od "nylaflow" brakeline tubing through fuselage covering? It would seem there would be some movement of the line where it passes through fuselage, imposing some strain on covering material and brakeline. Can't find anything about this in manuals. > > >--------------------------------- > > > >


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    Time: 07:12:33 PM PST US
    From: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@rcn.com>
    Subject: routing brake lines - Kitfox 2
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@rcn.com> On my Model II I cemented an aluminum washer in the fabric large enough to take a rubber bushing and the tubing through it. Work for me. Glenn Horne -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bob Unternaehrer Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: routing brake lines - Kitfox 2 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> Reinforce it with a piece of round pinked fabric. Bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marco Menezes" <msm_9949@yahoo.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: routing brake lines - Kitfox 2 > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com> > > I've just acquired a "98% completed" Kitfox 2. Can anyone advise me on recommended method to pass 3/16 od "nylaflow" brakeline tubing through fuselage covering? It would seem there would be some movement of the line where it passes through fuselage, imposing some strain on covering material and brakeline. Can't find anything about this in manuals. > > > --------------------------------- > > > --- > > ---


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    Time: 10:41:03 PM PST US
    From: "Andy" <fultz@trip.net>
    Subject: Need Lights
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy" <fultz@trip.net> I don't suppose anyone on the list might have a set of wingtip lights with strobes and position lights that they might want to get rid of. That's the only thing I haven't done on my wings and I'm about ready to cover. Thanks. Andy F.




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