Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Thu 05/27/04


Total Messages Posted: 16



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:57 AM - Re: Kitfox 2-stroke maintenance and FAA regulations (Mike Peters)
     2. 09:20 AM - Re: Kitfox 2-stroke maintenance and FAA regulations (Bob Robertson)
     3. 09:42 AM - Arctic Fox now on Crutches (Scott McClintock)
     4. 09:54 AM - How is that List Member Profile page coming? (Scott McClintock)
     5. 01:33 PM - Re: Kitfox 2-stroke maintenance and FAA regulations (Mike Peters)
     6. 01:36 PM - Stalling and AoA WAS: Gap sealing (Michel Verheughe)
     7. 01:46 PM - Re: Arctic Fox now on Crutches (Michel Verheughe)
     8. 02:11 PM - Challenge accepted. (Graeme Toft)
     9. 03:39 PM - Re: aluminum 2004 20:28:05 -0400 (Ron)
    10. 05:10 PM - New London,VA fly in!! (Gill Levesque)
    11. 05:20 PM - Summer tour (Gill Levesque)
    12. 05:49 PM - Re: Kitfox 2-stroke maintenance and FAA regulations (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
    13. 06:42 PM - Re: New London,VA fly in!! (John E. King)
    14. 06:59 PM - Re: Kitfox 2-stroke maintenance and FAA regulations (Bob Unternaehrer)
    15. 09:08 PM - Re: aluminum (Marc Arseneault)
    16. 10:07 PM - Re: New London,VA fly in!! (Dcecil3@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:57:33 AM PST US
    From: Mike Peters <mjp103@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox 2-stroke maintenance and FAA regulations
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Peters <mjp103@yahoo.com> Thanks Don! Fortunately, I have a knowledgable one that rents me hangar space. Mike --- The Reiman Corporation <MikeReiman@webtv.net> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: > MikeReiman@webtv.net (The Reiman Corporation) > > Not sure how I got your e-mail, but I'm an A&P. > Your friend is > right.... There are some A&P's I wouldn't trust to > fix a model airplane. > Best to ask around your field to know who knows > their stuff. Not sure > where you guys are based, but I'm in Lantana, > Florida. > > Oh, Anyone know where there might be a Grumman Tiger > for sale? Looking > for one. > > Respectfully, > > Mike Reiman > The Reiman Corporation, CEO > 2505 South Ocean Boulevard > Palm Beach, Florida 33480 > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > __________________________________ http://messenger.yahoo.com/


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    Time: 09:20:09 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Robertson" <aerocon@telusplanet.net>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox 2-stroke maintenance and FAA regulations
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <aerocon@telusplanet.net> Don, Luckily in Canada we don't have that problem. All the Rotax's will be in either an Advanced U/L or an experimental (amateur built). In both cases the current owner is deemed to be qualified to be able to do the work. But.....Yes. We are a Certified Service Center by Rotax and we will fill the engine log and certified that the work has been done by a certified repair facility according to Rotax's standards. I might be off base here, but I'm pretty sure that Lockwood (whom also do certified Rotax engines) or any of the other service cneters would be able to do the same. There are a bunch of Rotax engines powering experimentals and this is the first time I have heard that senario. Is it possible that this is just one FAA's employee's interpretation of the rules? Hope this helps Bob R Light Engine Services Ltd. Rotax Service Center ----- Original Message ----- From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 2-stroke maintenance and FAA regulations > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com > > In a message dated 5/26/04 7:10:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mjp103@yahoo.com > writes: > > > > > > I am buying a plane already built and it has a Rotax > > 582. It is a registered plane and I have a PPSEL. I > > will not have the repairmen's certificate, so how do > > those that are in a similar situation maintain the > > engine??? > > > > An A&P is required to work on it, according to the > > FAA, but there are few or none knowledgable in 2-stoke > > maintenance or willing to work on them. I would much > > prefer to send it off to a Rotax service center, but > > that doesn't seem to meet the FAA requirements. I > > would like to keep the logs in order for resale. > > > > There are plenty of Kitfox owners that are in the same > > boat. What do you do??? > > > > > > Mike, > I'm only guessing here but I think you should be able to do all the > required daily maintenance without a repairman's cert. That is, change/clean the > filters, jets, etc. that's required for daily flight operation. > On the part about the FAA not allowing an authorized Rotax facility to do > work on the engine surprises me. A question,,,, couldn't/wouldn't a Rotax > repair facility be willing to enter maintenance information into an owners > engine log. > This sounds like a Bob Robertson answer? > > Don Smythe > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 09:42:55 AM PST US
    From: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
    Subject: Arctic Fox now on Crutches
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us> Just an update for those who follow my escapades. Took the afternoon off from work yesterday to take advantage of some unusual sunny weather and got the bent spring gear off the "Arctic Fox". Even though the sun was out, I still needed the insulated coveralls as the temp was only 40F. I had hoped to do this inside a nice warm hangar but Jimmy West's C-180 is still in there and looks to be for a week or so more. His flying "junk yard" looks like it needs more that what he indicates and I wanna go flying again ASAP. Anyway, I did this outside at my tie down. It would have been nice to have an extra hand but I was able to get it done without. Had to use my floor jack, propped up on two car tire rims, with a 12"X 6"X 36" timber over that to jack each side up. Then I placed an 8"X 8" under each wheel to get her off the ground. Then, I placed my beefed up (custom carpeted) saw horse under the bungie gear forward mounts. Then, after some creative repositioning of the jack and support system, up and additional inch to get the 8"X 8"s out from the wheels. It was a simple process getting the wheels and brakes off, then the 4 long bolts that attach the gear mounts to the longerons, and viola', bent gear off and in the back of the pickup. She looks a little forlorn sitting there supported by my temporary "crutch" system, but whatever it takes. Was able to get a good look at the lower airframe to inspect for any bending and all looks well. I'll be getting a second opinion from my A&I buddy just to be sure and satisfy the NTSB so I won't have to fill out the incident report. (They really don't care about the bent landing gear or the tail wheel, just will have to fill out the paperwork only if damage was sustained to the flight controls or the airframe.) This is not the case so whew! Today, I will apply some paint stripper to the powdercoat so I can get that off. (Grove won't put it in the oven with paint on) I hope to get this off to UPS tomorrow via Red Label to El Cajon, CA. Say, do any of you that upgraded their S-5 to S-7 flaperons want to sell me the old ones? If not, I think I will upgrade to the S-7 type but am worried that SS may make me wait until (November)?????? Anybody having any luck getting their orders filled? Scott in Nome


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    Time: 09:54:10 AM PST US
    From: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
    Subject: How is that List Member Profile page coming?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> ............. Who wants to start. Tell us all about your home. Graeme, I'm pleased that you enjoy my somewhat verbose posts and today's is no exception, but you missed your opportunity to be the first to start? I (we) haven't a clue where you are located so if this type of thread tickles your fanny, get it on! Scott in Nome


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    Time: 01:33:45 PM PST US
    From: Mike Peters <mjp103@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox 2-stroke maintenance and FAA regulations
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Peters <mjp103@yahoo.com> Hi Bob! No, I guess it is just my misinformed interpretation of the rules, since I never owned an EXPERIMENTAL while not having the repairmens cert. Actually, the only EXPERIMENTAL that I owned was a sailplane. So, it seems it's not a big deal, as long as an A&P signs it off each year : ) Mike --- Bob Robertson <aerocon@telusplanet.net> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" > <aerocon@telusplanet.net> > > Don, > Luckily in Canada we don't have that problem. All > the Rotax's will be in > either an Advanced U/L or an experimental (amateur > built). In both cases > the current owner is deemed to be qualified to be > able to do the work. > But.....Yes. We are a Certified Service Center by > Rotax and we will fill the > engine log and certified that the work has been done > by a certified repair > facility according to Rotax's standards. I might > be off base here, but I'm > pretty sure that Lockwood (whom also do certified > Rotax engines) or any of > the other service cneters would be able to do the > same. There are a bunch > of Rotax engines powering experimentals and this is > the first time I have > heard that senario. Is it possible that this is > just one FAA's employee's > interpretation of the rules? > Hope this helps > > Bob R > Light Engine Services Ltd. > Rotax Service Center > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 2-stroke > maintenance and FAA regulations > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: > AlbertaIV@aol.com > > > > In a message dated 5/26/04 7:10:03 AM Pacific > Daylight Time, > mjp103@yahoo.com > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > I am buying a plane already built and it has a > Rotax > > > 582. It is a registered plane and I have a > PPSEL. I > > > will not have the repairmen's certificate, so > how do > > > those that are in a similar situation maintain > the > > > engine??? > > > > > > An A&P is required to work on it, according to > the > > > FAA, but there are few or none knowledgable in > 2-stoke > > > maintenance or willing to work on them. I would > much > > > prefer to send it off to a Rotax service center, > but > > > that doesn't seem to meet the FAA requirements. > I > > > would like to keep the logs in order for resale. > > > > > > There are plenty of Kitfox owners that are in > the same > > > boat. What do you do??? > > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > I'm only guessing here but I think you should > be able to do all the > > required daily maintenance without a repairman's > cert. That is, > change/clean the > > filters, jets, etc. that's required for daily > flight operation. > > On the part about the FAA not allowing an > authorized Rotax facility to > do > > work on the engine surprises me. A question,,,, > couldn't/wouldn't a Rotax > > repair facility be willing to enter maintenance > information into an owners > > engine log. > > This sounds like a Bob Robertson answer? > > > > Don Smythe > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > __________________________________ http://messenger.yahoo.com/


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    Time: 01:36:54 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Stalling and AoA WAS: Gap sealing
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> jimshumaker wrote: > There is probably someone out there who can answer better and hopefully they > will help me here. Yes, I'd appreciate very much an answer to this question: If I flare and float over the runway at an angle equal to my three-points position (measure roughtly to 16 degrees) why do I stall as my speed bleeds off? The AoA doesn't increase, does it? And I learned that there isn't such a thing as stall speed, only stall AoA. > It is the ground effect. Ah! This is interesting. I know a bit about ground effect as I have been nearly one year on the Yahoo WIG list. As you may know WIG (Wing In Ground) guys build crazy craft that are not really a plane, nor a bird, not even Superman! :-) What I find interesting is that they say something like this: Efficient commercial transport is based on a high lift to drag ratio. Apparently you can calculate that ratio for everything: A camel, a train, a tanker, a plane and ... a WIG craft. The latter is supposed to have the highest L/D ratio known to mankind. Lift is equal to the cargo you can transport as its weight has to be counter with lift. Drag is equal to the thrust, of fuel you have to use to overcome it. Hence high L/D means cheap transport. The problem is: A WIG craft is not a plane and ICAO doesn't want to hear about it, neither IMO (International Maritime Organization) who says it is certainly not a vessel. Have you see the Orlyonok? (called the Caspian Sea Monster by the CIA) It is a monster of a short winged Russian craft that flies at 210 knots a few meters over the water. If the WIG supporters get it their way, I can imagine in a decade or two transatlantic transport done with WIG craft maybe three times the size of a 747, flying at maybe 100 feet over the ocean at say 250 knots. I don't think time is the real issue in intercontinental travels. Otherwise supersonic planes like the Concorde would have done better. But a big and cheap monster (in fact, the mother of all monsters!) that can take you across the Atlantic in say, 12 hours (while you sleep) and maybe your car in the cargo room, is something that might catch up. The problem still is: It would mean a sure death to my poor sailboat if I am in their path. A solution: control the sea as the air is. The GPS makes it possible today. ... but that takes us far away from Vortex Generators, doesn't it? :-) Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 01:46:49 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Arctic Fox now on Crutches
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Scott McClintock wrote: > (They really don't care about the bent landing gear or the tail wheel, > just will have to fill out the paperwork only if damage was sustained to > the flight controls or the airframe.) This is not the case so whew! Good for you, Scott! Michel do not archive


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    Time: 02:11:53 PM PST US
    From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: Challenge accepted.
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> OK Scott, I accept the challenge. I am a 52 year old father of 5 and have an occupational health and safety consultancy. Primarily my work is related to both mining and construction activities and with the growing incidence of litigation occurring more and more often in Australia, my work is mainly centred around reactive issues rather than proactive. I live in Central Queensland in a coastal town called Yeppoon. The area is on the southern tip of the Great Barrier Reef and has many islands and beaches. Our temperature averages 22C with of up to 40 and as low as 6-7. Local flying is great and takes in many uninhabited island and great coastal scenery. Our coastal mountain ranges rarely exceed 3500' but a covered in magnificent rain forest. To our north, the Shoal Water Bay military training area covers a huge expance and is often closed to flying. Special permission can be obtained at times to fly through so a long diversion can be avoided when travelling to say Mackay or Townsville which are our closest northern neighbours. Inland we have the Callide and Bowen basin and highlands where cattle and coal mining are the primary industries. Population is sparse from here out and community populations rarely exceed 2-3 thousand. There is often many hundreds of Kilometres between towns and navigation features become a bit of a challenge. This is GPS country for the lazy pilot. As would be expected temperatures in this part of Central Queensland generate a lot of turbulence and often flying above 6000' is necessary to make life more comfortable. In winter the flying conditions are perfect with still cool days providing arm chair conditions and visibility which often exceeds 100 miles. There is a heavy reliance on small aircraft for commuting and many cattle stations have say a Cessna 206 for family travel and a ultralight for cattle mustering and travel throughout the property. Keeping in mind these properties are in many cases over 2or 3 hundred thousand acres and are measured in square kilometres. So thats me. I hope this idea works. We all have a story to tell and pilots are generally really interesting people to talk to. So back to you Scott and others. Do you accept the challenge. Im sure many will be watching this space for the next instalment. Cheers for now Graeme


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    Time: 03:39:52 PM PST US
    From: "Ron" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: aluminum 2004 20:28:05 -0400
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron" <rliebmann@comcast.net> The Sonex is made with 6061-T6 aluminum. All skins are made from it and I don't think that it is alclad..... Ron N55KF > I'm not sure how I got your e-mail, but let me tell you as an A&P you > don't want to use odd hardware grade aluminum on any aircraft. It will > corrode because it doesn't have the "Alclad" pure aluminum coating which > is on both sides about 6% deep. Get your stock from an aircraft > supplier, f not the kit plane company itself. > > Anyway, I will be happy to help you for free with any questions. I > would always follow the basic rule that if it's worth doing.. It's worth > doing right! > > Okay enough... > > Soft Landings, > > Mike Reiman > The Reiman Corporation, CEO > 2505 South Ocean Boulevard > Palm Beach, Florida 33480 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:10:56 PM PST US
    From: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: New London,VA fly in!!
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca> Hi guy's and Gals, I will be heading down to W90 ,aka. New London ,VA for their 29th annual fly in on June 6th! For those of you in the east who have never been there,this airport(not government funded) boasts over 60 resident aircraft including, Aeronca's, T-craft, Cubs,Luscombes,Cessna 120's,150's,172's, a Piper Pa 12,Cherokees,Comanches, a Zenair,a Glasair, an RV6, The worlds most beatiful Stinson 108-3,and a Pitts and an Aztec!!! This airport is the last of a dying breed where everyone pitches in to get the other flying again, the bar-B-Q is always goin and the fun!!!! ,just never stops!!! Great people, great service and most of all REAL FLYIN PEOPLE, with no agenda other than flying and friends! So fly or drive in on the 6th of June 2004 and tell em,Gil sent ya!!! Gil Levesque Kitfox 4 C-IGVL Summers in Ontario ,Canada Winter at W90 P.S., DonS.and John K. You are close!!!! See you there!!!!!! Still alive and flyin!!!! Gil ---------------------------------


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    Time: 05:20:20 PM PST US
    From: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Summer tour
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca> Hi All, On June 6th Iam flying my Fox down to Virginia and then west to British Columbia, Canada .I have no plans and am open to any invites along the way!!! Got good fishin,good scenery, or good hangar flyin,!!!!! I would love to share it!!! I have all summer!!!! Contact me off list if you would like a visitor this summer!!! Gil Levesque Kitfox 4 C-IGVL Ontario, Canada Still alive and flyin!!!! Gil ---------------------------------


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    Time: 05:49:38 PM PST US
    From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Kitfox 2-stroke maintenance and FAA regulations
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 5/27/04 9:22:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, aerocon@telusplanet.net writes: > Don, > Luckily in Canada we don't have that problem. All the Rotax's will be in > either an Advanced U/L or an experimental (amateur built). In both cases > the current owner is deemed to be qualified to be able to do the work. > Bob, Excellent information as usual. Don Smythe DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 06:42:34 PM PST US
    From: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
    Subject: Re: New London,VA fly in!!
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com> Gil, I see where New London is just seven miles southwest of Lynchburg Regional (LYH). Never been there, but have flown into Falwell (W24). I just might go there, weather permitting. When will you be flying south? My home base is Warrenton at W66 ? Do not archive. -- John King Warrenton, VA Gill Levesque wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca> > >Hi guy's and Gals, > > I will be heading down to W90 ,aka. New London ,VA for their 29th annual fly in on June 6th! For those of you in the east who have never been there,this airport(not government funded) boasts over 60 resident aircraft including, Aeronca's, T-craft, Cubs,Luscombes,Cessna 120's,150's,172's, a Piper Pa 12,Cherokees,Comanches, a Zenair,a Glasair, an RV6, The worlds most beatiful Stinson 108-3,and a Pitts and an Aztec!!! This airport is the last of a dying breed where everyone pitches in to get the other flying again, the bar-B-Q is always goin and the fun!!!! ,just never stops!!! > Great people, great service and most of all REAL FLYIN PEOPLE, with no agenda other than flying and friends! > >So fly or drive in on the 6th of June 2004 and tell em,Gil sent ya!!! > Gil Levesque > Kitfox 4 > C-IGVL > Summers in Ontario ,Canada > Winter at W90 > >P.S., DonS.and John K. > You are close!!!! See you there!!!!!! > > >Still alive and flyin!!!! > > Gil > > > >


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    Time: 06:59:01 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox 2-stroke maintenance and FAA regulations
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@c-magic.com> <<<I guess I am under the impression, after speaking to an A&P, that an A&P would need to sign off the engine work.>>> I don't think so , but would be willing to listen to what FARS your A&P is citing in this statement. Bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Peters" <mjp103@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 2-stroke maintenance and FAA regulations > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Peters <mjp103@yahoo.com> > > Hi Don! > I guess I am under the impression, after speaking to > an A&P, that an A&P would need to sign off the engine > work. Are there A&P's that are willing to do that > without knowing the quality of service that you are > getting from the 3rd party service center. He's > putting his name on the line, isn't he??? > > Mike > > --- AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote: > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com > > > > In a message dated 5/26/04 7:10:03 AM Pacific > > Daylight Time, mjp103@yahoo.com > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > I am buying a plane already built and it has a > > Rotax > > > 582. It is a registered plane and I have a PPSEL. > > I > > > will not have the repairmen's certificate, so how > > do > > > those that are in a similar situation maintain the > > > engine??? > > > > > > An A&P is required to work on it, according to the > > > FAA, but there are few or none knowledgable in > > 2-stoke > > > maintenance or willing to work on them. I would > > much > > > prefer to send it off to a Rotax service center, > > but > > > that doesn't seem to meet the FAA requirements. I > > > would like to keep the logs in order for resale. > > > > > > There are plenty of Kitfox owners that are in the > > same > > > boat. What do you do??? > > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > I'm only guessing here but I think you should be > > able to do all the > > required daily maintenance without a repairman's > > cert. That is, change/clean the > > filters, jets, etc. that's required for daily flight > > operation. > > On the part about the FAA not allowing an > > authorized Rotax facility to do > > work on the engine surprises me. A question,,,, > > couldn't/wouldn't a Rotax > > repair facility be willing to enter maintenance > > information into an owners > > engine log. > > This sounds like a Bob Robertson answer? > > > > Don Smythe > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > > Contributions > > any other > > Forums. > > > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > --- > > ---


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    Time: 09:08:27 PM PST US
    From: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com>
    Subject: aluminum
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com> Hi Dave, I have small pieces of sheeting/skin that comesoff a Bushcaddy wing. If you are interested you can have them. Best Regards, Marc Arseneault Ontario Canada Do not Archive From: "Dave Darlene" dnimigon@telusplanet.net Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com To: Kitfox-List@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: aluminum Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 19:06:24 -0700 -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave Darlene" dnimigon@telusplanet.net Hi All 'm in the process of getting together metal, etc for my XL. I live in Alberta, just west of Edmonton. I'm looking for a builder who might have some extra metal kicking around. I realize there are many different sizes of angles,sheeting that we need. I can access the most common, but there are some that can only be ordered by the 4x12 sheet. Most of the sheet is never needed and there seems to be much left over. I would be willing to pay fair price plus shipping. I just think this would be a lettle more less expensive then buying a whole sheet or a long length of angle only to use a small piece of it. It would probably only be worthwhile getting this from a ca


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    Time: 10:07:20 PM PST US
    From: Dcecil3@aol.com
    Subject: Re: New London,VA fly in!!
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Dcecil3@aol.com I'm about 40 Minutes from lynchburg is anyone going to fly a Kitfox in?Would love to get a Look at a couple.Also an update on the delema with the FAA about my Model 3. Talked to a Rep. from the EAA and he was a great help.Got everything in order .If your not a member JOIN, I would have been SOL if not for the EAA.Got all the parts to manufacture a new right wing from Skystar..Trucking Co. Crushed one of the Spars Skystar had another to me in 4 Days .Hopfully next year I'll be hitting the Fly-ins in Miss Kitty Best David Cecil N859DC KF model III Sure Feels good to be able to put my new N Number in here!!!!!!!!




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