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1. 07:50 AM - Re: KF 5 Help with Fuel fittings (Paul)
2. 08:34 AM - Re: KF 5 Help with Fuel fittings (W Duke)
3. 02:27 PM - Re: Toolkits (Randy Daughenbaugh)
4. 03:30 PM - Re: KF 5 Help with Fuel fittings (Bill Pleso)
5. 06:14 PM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 44 Msgs - 06/01/04 (Rex & Jan Shaw)
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| Subject: | Re: KF 5 Help with Fuel fittings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul <pwilson@climber.org>
and summit racing
Paul
==========
At 12:48 PM -0700 6/1/04, Lowell Fitt wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
>Kenny, I run the Facet pump without the filter. If you feel you really do
>need it, try:
>
>http://www.magnumforceracing.com/store4/earls_performance_products.htm
>
>Lowell
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: KF 5 Help with Fuel fittings
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring"
><kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
>>
>> It seems like a small problem but we've spent valuable building time
>> scratching our heads and so I turn to the list.
>>
>> We're an S5 with Rotax 912S. Comments on the list convinced
>> us it was wise to install the Facet fuel pump and it is now
>> mounted under the passenger seat. We're about to order
>> the Facet 74 micron filter #479735 which is recommended to
>> go with the pump.
>>
>> This filter has has a .375 nipple inlet over which goes a flexible fuel
>hose
>> from
>> the header tank.
>>
>> Problem is we need a new fitting for the header tank and
>> a hose and for the life of us can't find in the Aircraft Spruce
>> catalogue the correct fitting for the header tank which would
>> carry the correct hose size to the filter inlet.
>>
>> It's a 5/16 tapered thread aluminium fitting that goes into
>> the brass fitting into the header tank.
>>
>> The fitting we need should look like the AN840 in the spruce
>> catalogue but this does not appear to come in a 5/16 thread
>> size.
>>
>> Can someone help? What is the fitting we need
>> for the header tank and the hose size? Should
>> we be doing something differently?
>>
>> All help appreciated. It's the little things and we're in
>> metric Europe.
>> Thanks
>> Kerry
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >__________________________________
>> >http://messenger.yahoo.com/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: KF 5 Help with Fuel fittings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
It sounds like what you need is a 1/8" pipe thread size fitting. Pipe thread size does not correspond to actual dimension. Yes it is confusing. Try www.mcmastercarr.com and click Pipe and Pipe Fittings. Then click Aluminum Pipe Fittings and Pipe. And then scroll down for a conversion table and explanation.
Maxwell
Paul <pwilson@climber.org> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul
and summit racing
Paul
==========
At 12:48 PM -0700 6/1/04, Lowell Fitt wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
>
>Kenny, I run the Facet pump without the filter. If you feel you really do
>need it, try:
>
>http://www.magnumforceracing.com/store4/earls_performance_products.htm
>
>Lowell
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kerry Skyring"
>To:
>Subject: Kitfox-List: KF 5 Help with Fuel fittings
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring"
>
>>
>> It seems like a small problem but we've spent valuable building time
>> scratching our heads and so I turn to the list.
>>
>> We're an S5 with Rotax 912S. Comments on the list convinced
>> us it was wise to install the Facet fuel pump and it is now
>> mounted under the passenger seat. We're about to order
>> the Facet 74 micron filter #479735 which is recommended to
>> go with the pump.
>>
>> This filter has has a .375 nipple inlet over which goes a flexible fuel
>hose
>> from
>> the header tank.
>>
>> Problem is we need a new fitting for the header tank and
>> a hose and for the life of us can't find in the Aircraft Spruce
>> catalogue the correct fitting for the header tank which would
>> carry the correct hose size to the filter inlet.
>>
>> It's a 5/16 tapered thread aluminium fitting that goes into
>> the brass fitting into the header tank.
>>
>> The fitting we need should look like the AN840 in the spruce
>> catalogue but this does not appear to come in a 5/16 thread
>> size.
>>
>> Can someone help? What is the fitting we need
>> for the header tank and the hose size? Should
>> we be doing something differently?
>>
>> All help appreciated. It's the little things and we're in
>> metric Europe.
>> Thanks
>> Kerry
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >__________________________________
>> >http://messenger.yahoo.com/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Kurt,
Next to my pocket knife and Leatherman, I like a strong, small (3/16" or
1/4") nylon rope. Tie down? Tie to tree to hand prop? Tourniquit? The
list is unending.
I like this thread. Good suggestions so far. I am going to have to develop
a lighter toolbox than the one I toss in the car when we head out on
vacations.
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt schrader
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Toolkits
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I continue to wonder what to really carry along in my
plane. I suppose a lot depends upon the terrain I
plan to fly over. Considerations are:
Tire patch/pump
1 qt of oil
Water
Small socket/screwdriver handle
Adjustable wrench
Sparkplug
Duct tape
First aid kit
Space blanket
Small jump start battery
If required:
Flares
Hand held radio
Gun
Survival fishing equipment
Anyone have any other thoughts besides Jeff and
Michel? What works for you? You Canadians and
Alaskans might know best. What does the "required
list" say?
Kurt S.
--- "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
wrote:
>
> Life Preservers!
>
> Since moving to Chicago from Colorado, I've added
> Life Preservers to my items of neccesity list.
> Getting around Chicago safely you need
> to do some over water time. Landing on shore in
> many areas is simply out of the question.
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: michel michel@online.no
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:51:35 +0200
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Toolkits WAS: Chocks
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel
> <michel@online.no>
>
> >===== Original Message From kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> >We should compare flight tool kits here sometime to
> >see what everyone has found as "necessary".
>
> My faithful Swiss knife, a mini Maglite, a sparkplug
> key, 4 spare sparkplugs
> ... that's all. I travel light. Looking forward to
> hearing from you, guys.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: KF 5 Help with Fuel fittings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net>
Kerry,
I ran into a similar problem. Aircraft Spruce had the fittings that I
needed (in 5/16") but my header tank used 1/2" pipe thread, and what ACS had
was 1/4" pipe thread. Solution....use a reducer. Granted, it's another
place for a potential leak, but it's a simple solution.
Bill
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 44 Msgs - 06/01/04 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Hi ! Kylie,
I too have a MKIV. We had 20 x 7 x 8 2 ply buffed down
ATV tyres on it from original. I don't think you can get them anymore but in
any case who would want them ? We chucked ours. You can have them if you
want. They always got prickle punctures. We ran sealant in them. Watch out
for the greenslime type as it corrodes the rims. Anyway this works fine for
punctures in the tread area but not on the sidewalls until you take the
wheel off and tilt it so the sealant runs over the puncture. OK so what we
have done is put on 18 x 6.50 x 8 4 ply tyres. I think these are meant for
lawnmowers. They are readilly available, made in USA but we are in Australia
and had no trouble. They have a very mild tread. They certainly are much
tougher than the original and I think would handle rocks a lot better
although our problem was only prickles. We decided to still run low pressure
and so have fitted tubes just in case they want to come off the rim. We ran
them without at first but did have some sealing problems with one. Where
they had welded the lugs on the back of the rim for the brake disc there was
some distortion on the tyre side..
Barossa Birdmen here in South Australia have a couple of members Steve and
Ian. One has a Kitfox and the other a Skyfox [ Australian copy ] I remember
noticing one of them the other day had some huge tyres on it with Rib tread.
If you want to follow that up contact me off-list and I'll let you have more
details to contact them but I suggest you take a look at the tyres I'm
running as they might be the best. I think they might squirm of a rock with
a little luck whereas the big ones wouldn't.
Rex
Shaw.
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Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 44 Msgs - 06/01/04
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> 1. 12:40 AM - Re: folding wings (michel)
> 2. 12:53 AM - Re: Hand held instalation (michel)
> 3. 01:26 AM - Hand held installation (Graeme Toft)
> 4. 01:52 AM - Re: Hand held installation (r.thomas@za.pwc.com)
> 5. 02:50 AM - Re: Hand held installation (michel)
> 6. 03:00 AM - Re: Hand held installation (Graeme Toft)
> 7. 03:18 AM - Re: (Off topic) My hometown. Michel (Ceashman@aol.com)
> 8. 03:27 AM - Re: Hand held installation (r.thomas@za.pwc.com)
> 9. 03:39 AM - Re: folding wings (Bruce Lina)
> 10. 04:28 AM - Re: Hand held installation (Graeme Toft)
> 11. 04:28 AM - Re: folding wings (Fox5flyer)
> 12. 04:34 AM - Hand held installation (Graeme Toft)
> 13. 05:48 AM - Re: Hand held installation (Gill Levesque)
> 14. 05:57 AM - Noisy strobes (Gill Levesque)
> 15. 06:05 AM - Re: folding wings (flier)
> 16. 07:01 AM - Kitfox 5 for sale (LeRoy staley)
> 17. 07:01 AM - Kitfox 5 for sale (LeRoy staley)
> 18. 07:04 AM - Re: Kitfox 4 on Czech floats question (Marc
Arseneault)
> 19. 07:46 AM - Re: Noisy strobes (jeff.hays@aselia.com)
> 20. 09:57 AM - Re: Hand held installation (Michel Verheughe)
> 21. 10:01 AM - Re: Arctic Fox now on Crutches (Scott McClintock)
> 22. 11:04 AM - KF 5 Help with Fuel fittings (Kerry Skyring)
> 23. 11:58 AM - Re: folding wings (Michel Verheughe)
> 24. 12:08 PM - Re: (Off topic) My hometown. Michel (Michel Verheughe)
> 25. 12:35 PM - Re: Toolkits (ala Alaska) (Scott McClintock)
> 26. 12:42 PM - Re: Noisy strobes (Lowell Fitt)
> 27. 12:48 PM - Re: KF 5 Help with Fuel fittings (Lowell Fitt)
> 28. 12:49 PM - Re: folding wings (Lowell Fitt)
> 29. 01:52 PM - Re: Toolkits (ala Alaska) (Don)
> 30. 04:13 PM - Tool kits ala Alaska for Don (Scott McClintock)
> 31. 04:55 PM - Re: folding wings (Bruce Lina)
> 32. 04:56 PM - (Bruce Lina)
> 33. 05:44 PM - Re interference (Rex & Jan Shaw)
> 34. 06:34 PM - (off-topic) Our hometown (Jay Fabian)
> 35. 06:38 PM - Re: folding wings (Flier)
> 36. 06:52 PM - Kitfox Flaperon Request (Steve Winder)
> 37. 07:30 PM - Re: (off-topic) Our hometown (Jerry Liles)
> 38. 08:04 PM - Re: (off-topic) Our hometown (Jay Fabian)
> 39. 08:23 PM - Re: Vortex generators picture. (jimshumaker)
> 40. 08:56 PM - (Of topic) Our Hometown (Graeme Toft)
> 41. 09:33 PM - Re: Re interference (Graeme Toft)
> 42. 10:21 PM - Re: folding wings (kyle Ponsford)
> 43. 10:38 PM - Re: Toolkits (kyle Ponsford)
> 44. 11:48 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly
Posting] (Matt Dralle)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
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>
>
> Time: 12:40:10 AM PST US
> From: michel <michel@online.no>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
>
> Thanks for your answers, Ray and Jeff.
>
> >===== Original Message From "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> >Haven't you folded your wings yet Michael?
>
> Yes, I have, Darrel. My plane arrived by truck, wings folded. Then I fold
them
>
> about 3 times a year, for inspection.
> The reason of my asking is that we discuss a better hangar place
distribution
> and folding my wings after each flight would make things simpler. However
I am
>
> afraid to have to do it alone. Jeff's idea of a rope is a good one but
still
> ... I don't know. The point is: I was first in the hangar and I can claim
to
> keep it that way, with the wings open. On the other hand, I try to be a
nice
> guy and welcome newcomers. Another solution I am contemplating: The
building
> of a tail dolly that keeps the plane level and doesn't pull the wings
backward
>
> once the pin removed.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
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>
>
> Time: 12:53:39 AM PST US
> From: michel <michel@online.no>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Hand held instalation
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
>
> >===== Original Message From "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> >We are panel mounting an Icom A3 into our fox and hoped we could get some
> >advice about the best way to do this.
>
> The greatest improvement in radio noise reduction with my 582 installation
was
>
> to move the regulator ahead of the firewall, ... Graeme? Johno?
> Originally, the regulator was only a few inches away from the radio set.
Not a
>
> good idea. But it may not be the case for you.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
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>
>
> Time: 01:26:09 AM PST US
> From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Thanks Michel, the regulator at the moment is on the engine side of the
fire wall
> and it was one of our concerns to keep things as far from the radio as
possible.
> Are you using a hand held yourself and if so do you experience any
problems
> with it. General comments from people we have spoken to so far have
ranged
> from "dont worry about it" to "if its not done properly dont do it at
all".
> Issues such as external aerial and intercoms have also been raised as
potential
> problem areas. Can anyone else share their thoughts.
>
> Cheers
> Graeme
>
> PS. Michel, Johno is my partner and it was his concerns about the radio
that made
> him decide to ask the list. I also went to the link you attached to your
comments
> earlier about your hoe town. Loved the 360 degree images.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
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>
>
> Time: 01:52:31 AM PST US
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
> From: r.thomas@za.pwc.com
> 01/06/2004 09:51:39,
> Serialize complete at 01/06/2004 09:51:39
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: r.thomas@za.pwc.com
>
> Hi Graeme
>
> I use a the Icom A23 handheld in my KF2. I do use an external aerial
> mounted on the removable part of the turtledeck just behind the cockpit. I
> operate from a controlled airport with ATC and have never had any problems
> communicating with them.
>
> I use power from the aircraft and have not experienced any problems with
> engine noise.
>
> Regards
> Roger
>
>
> "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> 01/06/2004 10:25 AM
>
> Please respond to kitfox-list
>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> cc:
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
>
> Size: 5 Kb
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Thanks Michel, the regulator at the moment is on the engine side of the
> fire wall and it was one of our concerns to keep things as far from the
> radio as possible. Are you using a hand held yourself and if so do you
> experience any problems with it. General comments from people we have
> spoken to so far have ranged from "dont worry about it" to "if its not
> done properly dont do it at all". Issues such as external aerial and
> intercoms have also been raised as potential problem areas. Can anyone
> else share their thoughts.
>
> Cheers
> Graeme
>
> PS. Michel, Johno is my partner and it was his concerns about the radio
> that made him decide to ask the list. I also went to the link you attached
> to your comments earlier about your hoe town. Loved the 360 degree images.
>
>
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> ________________________________ Message 5
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>
> Time: 02:50:21 AM PST US
> From: michel <michel@online.no>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
>
> >===== Original Message From "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> =====
> >Are you using a hand held yourself and if so do you experience any
problems
> > with it.
>
> I have a Bendix-King handheld radio that was smartly mounted by the
contructor
>
> (not me) behind the panel that has a cut out to display and operate the
dials.
>
> The volume and squelch buttons are on the top, through the glareshield. I
have
>
> an external antenna, about half-way down the fuselage, and the power
supply is
>
> on the battery. Since I moved the regulator, I am very pleased with the
> installation and receive the somewhat far away Torp station as good as the
GA
> planes at my airfield. One thing though: When taxiing and listening to
Torp
> ATIS, I notice some noise when I make a certain angle with the sender.
> Probably my tail, or else, coming in as an antenna screen or reflector.
> Good luck with your radio installation, Graeme and Johno.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
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>
>
> Time: 03:00:39 AM PST US
> From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Thanks Roger, I thought the turtle deck would be a good option for
mounting
> the aerial. What sort of intercom are you using with the A23. We are
looking
> at a Pilot 200 but there $400 AU which is expensive.
>
> Cheers
> Graeme
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <r.thomas@za.pwc.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: r.thomas@za.pwc.com
> >
> > Hi Graeme
> >
> > I use a the Icom A23 handheld in my KF2. I do use an external aerial
> > mounted on the removable part of the turtledeck just behind the cockpit.
I
> > operate from a controlled airport with ATC and have never had any
problems
> > communicating with them.
> >
> > I use power from the aircraft and have not experienced any problems with
> > engine noise.
> >
> > Regards
> > Roger
> >
> >
> > "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> > Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > 01/06/2004 10:25 AM
> >
> > Please respond to kitfox-list
> >
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > cc:
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
> >
> > Size: 5 Kb
> >
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> >
> > Thanks Michel, the regulator at the moment is on the engine side of the
> > fire wall and it was one of our concerns to keep things as far from the
> > radio as possible. Are you using a hand held yourself and if so do you
> > experience any problems with it. General comments from people we have
> > spoken to so far have ranged from "dont worry about it" to "if its not
> > done properly dont do it at all". Issues such as external aerial and
> > intercoms have also been raised as potential problem areas. Can anyone
> > else share their thoughts.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Graeme
> >
> > PS. Michel, Johno is my partner and it was his concerns about the radio
> > that made him decide to ask the list. I also went to the link you
attached
> > to your comments earlier about your hoe town. Loved the 360 degree
images.
> >
> >
> > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to
> > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged
> > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or
> > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or
> > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you
> > received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the
material
> > from any computer.
> >
> >
>
>
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>
> Time: 03:18:26 AM PST US
> From: Ceashman@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: (Off topic) My hometown. Michel
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Ceashman@aol.com
>
> Hello Michel.
>
> Thanks for the description of Tonsberg and a little of your flying
experience
> around the area. Also, thanks for the "walking tour." You should really
tell
> the folks about Brussels and the close town of Gent, beautiful places.
> Thanks for the offer of going up in the Kitfox, trouble is. I get to
Holland
> occasionally, but never Norway.
>
> Eric Ashman. (ex Brit) Classic IV. Atlanta, Georgia
>
> e-mail; ceashman@aol.com
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
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>
>
> Time: 03:27:26 AM PST US
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
> From: r.thomas@za.pwc.com
> 01/06/2004 11:26:47,
> Serialize complete at 01/06/2004 11:26:47
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: r.thomas@za.pwc.com
>
> I am using a Buzzcom 2 place intercom. (www.buzzcom.co.za) I think it is
> fairly similar to the Softcom 2 place intercom. I paid ZAR 1800 (approx
> AU$ 360). It allows me to connect my MP3/CD player to it - I cannot fly
> without music. It suppresses the music whenever you are speaking to your
> pax or if there is a radio reception/transmission.
>
> Regards
> Roger
>
>
> "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> 01/06/2004 12:00 PM
>
> Please respond to kitfox-list
>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> cc:
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
>
> Size: 6 Kb
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Thanks Roger, I thought the turtle deck would be a good option for
> mounting
> the aerial. What sort of intercom are you using with the A23. We are
> looking
> at a Pilot 200 but there $400 AU which is expensive.
>
> Cheers
> Graeme
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <r.thomas@za.pwc.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: r.thomas@za.pwc.com
> >
> > Hi Graeme
> >
> > I use a the Icom A23 handheld in my KF2. I do use an external aerial
> > mounted on the removable part of the turtledeck just behind the cockpit.
> I
> > operate from a controlled airport with ATC and have never had any
> problems
> > communicating with them.
> >
> > I use power from the aircraft and have not experienced any problems with
> > engine noise.
> >
> > Regards
> > Roger
> >
> >
> > "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> > Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > 01/06/2004 10:25 AM
> >
> > Please respond to kitfox-list
> >
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > cc:
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
> >
> > Size: 5 Kb
> >
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> >
> > Thanks Michel, the regulator at the moment is on the engine side of the
> > fire wall and it was one of our concerns to keep things as far from the
> > radio as possible. Are you using a hand held yourself and if so do you
> > experience any problems with it. General comments from people we have
> > spoken to so far have ranged from "dont worry about it" to "if its not
> > done properly dont do it at all". Issues such as external aerial and
> > intercoms have also been raised as potential problem areas. Can anyone
> > else share their thoughts.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Graeme
> >
> > PS. Michel, Johno is my partner and it was his concerns about the radio
> > that made him decide to ask the list. I also went to the link you
> attached
> > to your comments earlier about your hoe town. Loved the 360 degree
> images.
> >
> >
> > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to
> > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged
> > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or
> > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or
> > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you
> > received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the
> material
> > from any computer.
> >
> >
>
>
> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to
> which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged
> material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or
> taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or
> entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you
> received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material
> from any computer.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
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>
>
> Time: 03:39:42 AM PST US
> From: "Bruce Lina" <airlina@usadatanet.net>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Lina" <airlina@usadatanet.net>
>
> Michel, I have a Series 5 taildragger that I finished last summer. Since
my
> shop door was only 9 ft wide I had to fold the wings at least 100 times
> during and after construction. I do it solo by holding on to the jury
strut
> right where it connects to the wing with one hand while tapping the pin
out
> with the other. Work slowly and deliberately. If given a choice I would
> recommend not folding them because you will have to drain the fuel tanks
> down each time or fuel will leak from caps unless you devise a system to
> prevent this. Bruce
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "michel" <michel@online.no>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
> >
> > Thanks for your answers, Ray and Jeff.
> >
> > >===== Original Message From "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> > >Haven't you folded your wings yet Michael?
> >
> > Yes, I have, Darrel. My plane arrived by truck, wings folded. Then I
fold
> them
> > about 3 times a year, for inspection.
> > The reason of my asking is that we discuss a better hangar place
> distribution
> > and folding my wings after each flight would make things simpler.
However
> I am
> > afraid to have to do it alone. Jeff's idea of a rope is a good one but
> still
> > ... I don't know. The point is: I was first in the hangar and I can
claim
> to
> > keep it that way, with the wings open. On the other hand, I try to be a
> nice
> > guy and welcome newcomers. Another solution I am contemplating: The
> building
> > of a tail dolly that keeps the plane level and doesn't pull the wings
> backward
> > once the pin removed.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michel
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:28:05 AM PST US
> From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Sounds like what I need. I love my music as well.
> Thanks for your help Roger, it is greatly appreciated
>
> Cheers
> Graeme
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <r.thomas@za.pwc.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: r.thomas@za.pwc.com
> >
> > I am using a Buzzcom 2 place intercom. (www.buzzcom.co.za) I think it is
> > fairly similar to the Softcom 2 place intercom. I paid ZAR 1800 (approx
> > AU$ 360). It allows me to connect my MP3/CD player to it - I cannot fly
> > without music. It suppresses the music whenever you are speaking to your
> > pax or if there is a radio reception/transmission.
> >
> > Regards
> > Roger
> >
> >
> > "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> > Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > 01/06/2004 12:00 PM
> >
> > Please respond to kitfox-list
> >
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > cc:
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
> >
> > Size: 6 Kb
> >
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> >
> > Thanks Roger, I thought the turtle deck would be a good option for
> > mounting
> > the aerial. What sort of intercom are you using with the A23. We are
> > looking
> > at a Pilot 200 but there $400 AU which is expensive.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Graeme
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <r.thomas@za.pwc.com>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: r.thomas@za.pwc.com
> > >
> > > Hi Graeme
> > >
> > > I use a the Icom A23 handheld in my KF2. I do use an external aerial
> > > mounted on the removable part of the turtledeck just behind the
cockpit.
> > I
> > > operate from a controlled airport with ATC and have never had any
> > problems
> > > communicating with them.
> > >
> > > I use power from the aircraft and have not experienced any problems
with
> > > engine noise.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Roger
> > >
> > >
> > > "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> > > Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > > 01/06/2004 10:25 AM
> > >
> > > Please respond to kitfox-list
> > >
> > > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > > cc:
> > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
> > >
> > > Size: 5 Kb
> > >
> > >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> > >
> > > Thanks Michel, the regulator at the moment is on the engine side of
the
> > > fire wall and it was one of our concerns to keep things as far from
the
> > > radio as possible. Are you using a hand held yourself and if so do you
> > > experience any problems with it. General comments from people we have
> > > spoken to so far have ranged from "dont worry about it" to "if its not
> > > done properly dont do it at all". Issues such as external aerial and
> > > intercoms have also been raised as potential problem areas. Can anyone
> > > else share their thoughts.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Graeme
> > >
> > > PS. Michel, Johno is my partner and it was his concerns about the
radio
> > > that made him decide to ask the list. I also went to the link you
> > attached
> > > to your comments earlier about your hoe town. Loved the 360 degree
> > images.
> > >
> > >
> > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity
to
> > > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged
> > > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of,
or
> > > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or
> > > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you
> > > received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the
> > material
> > > from any computer.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to
> > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged
> > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or
> > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or
> > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you
> > received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the
material
> > from any computer.
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 11
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:28:58 AM PST US
> From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> Ah so. The reason I asked was I know a guy who bought his fox already
> built. The previous owner delivered it and the new owner after 3 years
had
> never folded the wings and didn't know how and didn't want to ask the
> question. When I told him how easy it was and volunteered to help him and
> demonstrated it he was pretty happy.
> I have the model V and I fold mine by myself. Although it's nice to have
> another person no help is really needed. I just grab the strut and while
> positioning the flaperon I pull it forward with one hand and with the
other
> I push the pin in place, then with a mallet I carefully tap the pin down.
> The model 1 thru 3 is actually easier because the flaperon folds
> automatically without having to unhook anything. The most important thing
> to remember is to chock the wheels or the airplane will begin to roll
while
> you're pulling the wing forward.
> Regards,
> Darrel
>
> >
> > Yes, I have, Darrel. My plane arrived by truck, wings folded. Then I
fold
> them
> > about 3 times a year, for inspection.
> > The reason of my asking is that we discuss a better hangar place
> distribution
> > and folding my wings after each flight would make things simpler.
However
> I am
> > afraid to have to do it alone. Jeff's idea of a rope is a good one but
> still
> > ... I don't know. The point is: I was first in the hangar and I can
claim
> to
> > keep it that way, with the wings open. On the other hand, I try to be a
> nice
> > guy and welcome newcomers. Another solution I am contemplating: The
> building
> > of a tail dolly that keeps the plane level and doesn't pull the wings
> backward
> > once the pin removed.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michel
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 12
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:34:59 AM PST US
> From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Thanks for the comments everyone. Were a lot happier now that we have
advice from
> those of you who are using hand held radio's effectively.
>
> Cheers
> Graeme
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 13
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:48:46 AM PST US
> From: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca>
>
> Michel,
> Can you elaborate on "moving the regulator". My radio (Delcom) is very
noisy at
> higher rpm's unless i squelch full!!! My antena is mounted on the stock
kitfox
> plate ,rear top fuselage!! Maybe I am not grounded well enough?
>
> Gil Levesque
> C-IGVL
> 30 hrs. and lovin it!!!
>
> michel <michel@online.no> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel
>
> >===== Original Message From "Graeme Toft" =====
> >Are you using a hand held yourself and if so do you experience any
problems
> > with it.
>
> I have a Bendix-King handheld radio that was smartly mounted by the
contructor
>
> (not me) behind the panel that has a cut out to display and operate the
dials.
>
> The volume and squelch buttons are on the top, through the glareshield. I
have
>
> an external antenna, about half-way down the fuselage, and the power
supply is
>
> on the battery. Since I moved the regulator, I am very pleased with the
> installation and receive the somewhat far away Torp station as good as the
GA
> planes at my airfield. One thing though: When taxiing and listening to
Torp
> ATIS, I notice some noise when I make a certain angle with the sender.
> Probably my tail, or else, coming in as an antenna screen or reflector.
> Good luck with your radio installation, Graeme and Johno.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
>
> Still alive and flyin!!!!
>
> Gil
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 14
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:57:35 AM PST US
> From: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Noisy strobes
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca>
>
> Hi all,
> I have a Kuntzleman dual strobe ,which I got used and it makes a heck of
a racket!!!
> My Radio is a panel mounted Delcom 960. Unless I suelch full, I get a
terrible
> mix of engine noise and strobe noise! My KILL wires are sheilded! Other
> than that ,unicom always say!"GVL your radio is a FIVE"!!! ????? Any
Ideas!!!
>
> Gil Levesque
> C-IGVL
>
>
> Still alive and flyin!!!!
>
> Gil
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 15
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:05:51 AM PST US
> From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I've been folding the wings on my long wing IV now
> for eight years. No tools required. Just grab the
> lift strut and go, open or folded. It's an easy one
> person task.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ted
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
> From: michel <michel@online.no>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel
> <michel@online.no>
> >
> >Thanks for your answers, Ray and Jeff.
> >
> >>===== Original Message From "Fox5flyer"
> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> >>Haven't you folded your wings yet Michael?
> >
> >Yes, I have, Darrel. My plane arrived by truck,
> wings folded. Then I fold them
> >about 3 times a year, for inspection.
> >The reason of my asking is that we discuss a better
> hangar place distribution
> >and folding my wings after each flight would make
> things simpler. However I am
> >afraid to have to do it alone. Jeff's idea of a rope
> is a good one but still
> >... I don't know. The point is: I was first in the
> hangar and I can claim to
> >keep it that way, with the wings open. On the other
> hand, I try to be a nice
> >guy and welcome newcomers. Another solution I am
> contemplating: The building
> >of a tail dolly that keeps the plane level and
> doesn't pull the wings backward
> >once the pin removed.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Michel
> >
> >
> >_-
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>
> ________________________________ Message 16
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:01:11 AM PST US
> From: LeRoy staley <itis50@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 5 for sale
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: LeRoy staley <itis50@yahoo.com>
>
> My Kitfox 5 is for sale. Subaru with 440 hours.
> Contact me off list for details and pics.
>
>
> __________________________________
> http://messenger.yahoo.com/
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 17
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:01:48 AM PST US
> From: LeRoy staley <itis50@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 5 for sale
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: LeRoy staley <itis50@yahoo.com>
>
> My Kitfox 5 is for sale. Subaru with 440 hours.
> Contact me off list for details and pics. dacha@positech.net
>
>
> __________________________________
> http://messenger.yahoo.com/
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 18
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:04:54 AM PST US
> From: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 4 on Czech floats question
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Arseneault"
<northernultralights@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Gary is out of town until Wednesday but I am sure he will respond when he
gets
> back. He lives in a small town just outside of Sudbury, Ontario.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marc Arseneault
> Ontario Canada
>
> From: "Michael Gibbard" mike@mikegibbard.com Reply-To:
kitfox-list@matronics.com
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 4 on Czech
floats
> question Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 09:58:19 -0400 -- Kitfox-List message
posted
> by: "Michael Gibbard" mike@mikegibbard.com I have a model II. Could they
be
> mounted, and how much and where do you live. I'm in Northern Michigan.
Thank
> you. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Algate"
algate@attglobal.net
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 4 on Czech
floats
> question -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate"
algate@attglobal.net
> &
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 19
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:46:54 AM PST US
> From: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Noisy strobes
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com"
<jeff.hays@aselia.com>
>
>
> Gill -
>
> I use unshielded twisted pair out to my strobes, and get absolutely
> no noise from my strobes at all. I would look at the following:
>
> If you have shielded wire out to the strobes, make sure it is only
> grounded at one end of the shield, this should be at the strobe
> power unit. Next thing, make sure that the strobe power comes from
> a separate bus than the avionics. You want the strobe power supply
> coming from as electrically close to the alternator/battery as
> possible. Then check to make sure you have a really REALLY good
> ground to the strobe power unit. Probably 14-16 AWG, or 12 even.
> Even better a strip of braided bonding wire would be best.
>
> Since you also mention a lot of other noise on the radio, I would
> be really suspicious of poor grounding throughout the system, also
> you want to make sure that all your power lines to your busses, etc
> are of sufficient size (i.e. think BIG)
>
> If these don't produce any results, you might have a really crappy
> power supply filter in the radio. This leaves you a couple alternatives.
> One is to get the radio serviced, the othe would be to put a power
> line filter right on the radio power line. A nice fruit juicy capacitor
> might be a really simple fix try a 10-50 microfarad ceramic, from the
> power lead to ground and see if that helps.
>
> (+12V Radio In)-----|10uF(------(-12V Radio Ground)-
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Gill Levesque canpilot03@yahoo.ca
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Noisy strobes
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca>
>
> Hi all,
> I have a Kuntzleman dual strobe ,which I got used and it makes a heck of
a
> racket!!! My Radio is a panel mounted Delcom 960. Unless I suelch full, I
> get a terrible mix of engine noise and strobe noise! My KILL wires are
> sheilded! Other than that ,unicom always say!"GVL your radio is a FIVE"!!!
> ????? Any Ideas!!!
>
> Gil Levesque
> C-IGVL
>
>
> Still alive and flyin!!!!
>
> Gil
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 20
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:57:45 AM PST US
> From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hand held installation
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Gill Levesque wrote:
> > Michel,
> > Can you elaborate on "moving the regulator".
>
> Off course, Gill. But first, when do you notice a noise? In your next
email,
> you say that other stations read you five. It means that you only get
noise
> when receiving, right? That would indicate, I think, that the noise is
coming
> through your headphone only.
>
> In my case, I had noise in both transmitting and receiving. First thing I
did
> is to check that the noise was not carried by the power supply and/or the
> antenna. For that purpose, I tested with a handheld radio and the noise
was the
> same.
> Then I noticed that the noise appeared only when my 582 was revving over
say
> 2,800 RPM. I figured that was the speed at which my magneto gave more than
14
> volts and the regulator started working.
> This regulator model 264 870 was placed on the inside of the firewall,
about 3
> inches from the radio. I removed it and placed it on the engine side of
the
> firewall, there where my oil tank used to be (I mix in the wings now). Now
I
> had the firewall and the battery in direct line between the radio and the
> regulator. Furthermore, the cables between the magneto and regulator were
much,
> much shorter. Lo and behold! The noise was gone!
>
> I am not sure this is the case for you, Gill. I think you should first
test
> with a handheld radio and see if your noise occur also at a certain RPM.
Your
> problem may be entirely different. Good luck.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 21
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>
>
> Time: 10:01:47 AM PST US
> From: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Arctic Fox now on Crutches
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock
<scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
>
> Thanks Kurt,
> I'm "upgrading" to Fred's S-6 flaperons. The price is right, we are just
trying
> to
> figure out how to best get them up here to Nome.
> Scott
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> kurt schrader wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> > When I was at SS Tuesday I asked about flapperons.
> > They are only making the -7 ones now, but they said
> > there were a good number of upgrades being done. You
> > might contact them for names and addresses for those
> > that changed to -7's, if you need used -5 flapperons.
> > If you contact someone who upgraded, they will have
> > removed the control horns etc off theirs, so you will
> > have to re-add them.
> >
> > The upgrade is about $1000, plus shipping. You too
> > will have to use parts off your old ones though. I
> > got the impression that they could get new flapperons
> > off pretty quickly though.
> >
> > Kurt S.
> > Series 5
> >
> > --- Scott McClintock
> > >
> > > Just an update for those who follow my escapades.....
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > http://messenger.yahoo.com/
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 22
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:04:42 AM PST US
> From: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: KF 5 Help with Fuel fittings
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring"
<kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
>
> It seems like a small problem but we've spent valuable building time
> scratching our heads and so I turn to the list.
>
> We're an S5 with Rotax 912S. Comments on the list convinced
> us it was wise to install the Facet fuel pump and it is now
> mounted under the passenger seat. We're about to order
> the Facet 74 micron filter #479735 which is recommended to
> go with the pump.
>
> This filter has has a .375 nipple inlet over which goes a flexible fuel
hose
> from
> the header tank.
>
> Problem is we need a new fitting for the header tank and
> a hose and for the life of us can't find in the Aircraft Spruce
> catalogue the correct fitting for the header tank which would
> carry the correct hose size to the filter inlet.
>
> It's a 5/16 tapered thread aluminium fitting that goes into
> the brass fitting into the header tank.
>
> The fitting we need should look like the AN840 in the spruce
> catalogue but this does not appear to come in a 5/16 thread
> size.
>
> Can someone help? What is the fitting we need
> for the header tank and the hose size? Should
> we be doing something differently?
>
> All help appreciated. It's the little things and we're in
> metric Europe.
> Thanks
> Kerry
>
>
> >
> >
> >__________________________________
> >http://messenger.yahoo.com/
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 23
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:58:51 AM PST US
> From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Thanks Darrel, Bruce and Ted.
> Bruce made the point that I forgot and that is the reason I want to level
the
> plane on a dolly before folding the wings (apart from the weight of it),
> namely, the emptying of the tanks! If I get it level, I don't have to
worry
> about that.
> Hum, I'll look again at my old drawing of a dolly on a free-castoring
wheel
> that can be locked.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 24
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:08:27 PM PST US
> From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: (Off topic) My hometown. Michel
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Thanks for your nice comments, Greame and Eric.
>
> Ceashman@aol.com wrote:
> > You should really tell
> > the folks about Brussels and the close town of Gent, beautiful places.
>
> ... and Brugges, the European commercial center in the 15th century.
Brugges,
> the city that went to sleep after the sand silted its artery. The riddle
of the
> sand of the North Sea, and far away, over the grey sea and the waves of
dunes,
> the mythical islands of Thule and Frysland ... the dreams of ancient
seafarers
> and a young boy in the 50s on the Flander beach of Ostende, with his
father,
> the proud airman.
> ... sniff, sniff, don't get me started, Eric! :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 25
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:35:09 PM PST US
> From: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Toolkits (ala Alaska)
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock
<scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
>
> Kurt,
> Can't speak for all of us (Alaska fliers) but this is what I carry on
board:
> AIRPLANE STUFF
> super leatherman multi-tool
> 10" crescent wrench
> palm ratchet w/ spark plug, 8mm - 20mm sockets
> 2-spark plugs
> small roll duct tape
> fuel measuring device (dip tanks)
> 12' of bailing wire (coiled)
> 6 zip ties (12")
>
> SURVIVAL STUFF
> Trail size first-aid kit w/ suture kit
> water purification tablets
> mosquito head net
> 6 freeze-dried meal pouches
> 1 medium candle
> DEET bug dope small bottle (great fire starter for wet wood)
> space blanket (not that warm, but better than feeding the bugs)
> 44 mag. Super Red Hawk Pistol with 6 solid brass bullets (for not feeding
the
> bears, save the last round for myself)
> K-TEL "Pocket Fisherman" with two "Pixies"
> small hand-held GPS w/ fresh batteries
> hand-held aviation radio w/ hailing channel 16 option (Coast Guard) &
fresh
> batteries
> water proof matches
> mini flare gun w/ 3 flare rounds
> small lightweight hatchet
> 8oz. flask of Tequila
> roll of flo-pink surveyor's ribbon (pretty handy for lashing things
together and
> marks the crash site well)
> small roll of "parachute" rigging rope (for hanging yourself before the
FAA
> crucifixion)
>
> (all except pistol, and hatchet fits inside a 6" diam. x 10" aluminum pod
which
> looks like two pots and serve as such in an emergency)
> If traveling over water, type 3 PFD
> During winter, add sleeping bag and several chemical hand warmers
>
> This stuff weighs about 12 lbs. (depending) and I have it all stashed in a
small
> red duffel marked "emergency kit". It fits quite nicely in one of my
triangular
> side compartments behind my seat.
>
> I only carry it if I'm "Going Somewhere". Usually just throw it on the
front seat
> of the PU for the short little sight-seeing trips.
>
> (If I know that I'm going to have an emergency, I always take the TV/VCR
and extra
> condoms of course!)
>
> Scott in Nome
>
>
> kurt schrader wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> >
> > I continue to wonder what to really carry along in my
> > plane. I suppose a lot depends upon the terrain I
> > plan to fly over. Considerations are:
> >
> > Tire patch/pump
> > 1 qt of oil
> > Water
> > Small socket/screwdriver handle
> > Adjustable wrench
> > Sparkplug
> > Duct tape
> > First aid kit
> > Space blanket
> > Small jump start battery
> >
> > If required:
> > Flares
> > Hand held radio
> > Gun
> > Survival fishing equipment
> >
> > Anyone have any other thoughts besides Jeff and
> > Michel? What works for you? You Canadians and
> > Alaskans might know best. What does the "required
> > list" say?
> >
> > Kurt S.
> >
> > --- "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Life Preservers!
> > >
> > > Since moving to Chicago from Colorado, I've added
> > > Life Preservers to my items of neccesity list.
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > http://messenger.yahoo.com/
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 26
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:42:57 PM PST US
> From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Noisy strobes
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> Gil, Robert Knucholls hosts a forum in the Matronics group - check other
> lists below. he has a diagram of a filter that was once available from
> Radio Shack. I bought the last three from a local store - they are not
> available on their website as it is a discontinued item. The diagram on
the
> Aeroelectrics site shows a configuration for filtering the power lead to
an
> accessory and the configuration for filtering a noise causing accessory.
> The Radio Shack kit consists of a choke - possibly available elsewhere and
a
> capacitor which is a commonly available part.
>
> I have two in my airplane, used to reduce noise to the mike input of my
> video camera. They helped a lot.
>
> Lowell
>
> You may want to post a question as to where the parts may be obtained.
>
> Lowell
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gill Levesque" <canpilot03@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Noisy strobes
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca>
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I have a Kuntzleman dual strobe ,which I got used and it makes a heck
of
> a racket!!! My Radio is a panel mounted Delcom 960. Unless I suelch full,
I
> get a terrible mix of engine noise and strobe noise! My KILL wires are
> sheilded! Other than that ,unicom always say!"GVL your radio is a FIVE"!!!
> ????? Any Ideas!!!
> >
> > Gil Levesque
> > C-IGVL
> >
> >
> > Still alive and flyin!!!!
> >
> > Gil
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 27
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:48:19 PM PST US
> From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KF 5 Help with Fuel fittings
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> Kenny, I run the Facet pump without the filter. If you feel you really
do
> need it, try:
>
> http://www.magnumforceracing.com/store4/earls_performance_products.htm
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kerry Skyring" <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: KF 5 Help with Fuel fittings
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kerry Skyring"
> <kerryskyring@hotmail.com>
> >
> > It seems like a small problem but we've spent valuable building time
> > scratching our heads and so I turn to the list.
> >
> > We're an S5 with Rotax 912S. Comments on the list convinced
> > us it was wise to install the Facet fuel pump and it is now
> > mounted under the passenger seat. We're about to order
> > the Facet 74 micron filter #479735 which is recommended to
> > go with the pump.
> >
> > This filter has has a .375 nipple inlet over which goes a flexible fuel
> hose
> > from
> > the header tank.
> >
> > Problem is we need a new fitting for the header tank and
> > a hose and for the life of us can't find in the Aircraft Spruce
> > catalogue the correct fitting for the header tank which would
> > carry the correct hose size to the filter inlet.
> >
> > It's a 5/16 tapered thread aluminium fitting that goes into
> > the brass fitting into the header tank.
> >
> > The fitting we need should look like the AN840 in the spruce
> > catalogue but this does not appear to come in a 5/16 thread
> > size.
> >
> > Can someone help? What is the fitting we need
> > for the header tank and the hose size? Should
> > we be doing something differently?
> >
> > All help appreciated. It's the little things and we're in
> > metric Europe.
> > Thanks
> > Kerry
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >__________________________________
> > >http://messenger.yahoo.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 28
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:49:50 PM PST US
> From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> Michel, My fist thought is to be firm. It is certainly a convenience to
> some Kitfox fliers to be able to fold the wings, but I would bristle a bit
> if the sole convenience was to others. I don't fold mine except, as you
> say, during inspections or maintenance. I fly every week at least, if
just
> for that therapy session. A friend came by last weekend who has to unfold
> and fold after every flight. He has to plan his flights a bit more than I
> do as it takes him extra time each flight. If that procedure was
necessary
> for me, I am sure the flying would be somewhat less frequent.
>
> Hold firm is my advice.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "michel" <michel@online.no>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel <michel@online.no>
> >
> > Thanks for your answers, Ray and Jeff.
> >
> > >===== Original Message From "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> > >Haven't you folded your wings yet Michael?
> >
> > Yes, I have, Darrel. My plane arrived by truck, wings folded. Then I
fold
> them
> > about 3 times a year, for inspection.
> > The reason of my asking is that we discuss a better hangar place
> distribution
> > and folding my wings after each flight would make things simpler.
However
> I am
> > afraid to have to do it alone. Jeff's idea of a rope is a good one but
> still
> > ... I don't know. The point is: I was first in the hangar and I can
claim
> to
> > keep it that way, with the wings open. On the other hand, I try to be a
> nice
> > guy and welcome newcomers. Another solution I am contemplating: The
> building
> > of a tail dolly that keeps the plane level and doesn't pull the wings
> backward
> > once the pin removed.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michel
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 29
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:52:16 PM PST US
> From: "Don" <donfox@inreach.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Toolkits (ala Alaska)
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don" <donfox@inreach.com>
>
> Scott, no signal mirror? Don
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott McClintock" <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Toolkits (ala Alaska)
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock
> <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
> >
> > Kurt,
> > Can't speak for all of us (Alaska fliers) but this is what I carry on
> board:
> > AIRPLANE STUFF
> > super leatherman multi-tool
> > 10" crescent wrench
> > palm ratchet w/ spark plug, 8mm - 20mm sockets
> > 2-spark plugs
> > small roll duct tape
> > fuel measuring device (dip tanks)
> > 12' of bailing wire (coiled)
> > 6 zip ties (12")
> >
> > SURVIVAL STUFF
> > Trail size first-aid kit w/ suture kit
> > water purification tablets
> > mosquito head net
> > 6 freeze-dried meal pouches
> > 1 medium candle
> > DEET bug dope small bottle (great fire starter for wet wood)
> > space blanket (not that warm, but better than feeding the bugs)
> > 44 mag. Super Red Hawk Pistol with 6 solid brass bullets (for not
feeding
> the
> > bears, save the last round for myself)
> > K-TEL "Pocket Fisherman" with two "Pixies"
> > small hand-held GPS w/ fresh batteries
> > hand-held aviation radio w/ hailing channel 16 option (Coast Guard) &
> fresh
> > batteries
> > water proof matches
> > mini flare gun w/ 3 flare rounds
> > small lightweight hatchet
> > 8oz. flask of Tequila
> > roll of flo-pink surveyor's ribbon (pretty handy for lashing things
> together and
> > marks the crash site well)
> > small roll of "parachute" rigging rope (for hanging yourself before the
> FAA
> > crucifixion)
> >
> > (all except pistol, and hatchet fits inside a 6" diam. x 10" aluminum
pod
> which
> > looks like two pots and serve as such in an emergency)
> > If traveling over water, type 3 PFD
> > During winter, add sleeping bag and several chemical hand warmers
> >
> > This stuff weighs about 12 lbs. (depending) and I have it all stashed in
a
> small
> > red duffel marked "emergency kit". It fits quite nicely in one of my
> triangular
> > side compartments behind my seat.
> >
> > I only carry it if I'm "Going Somewhere". Usually just throw it on the
> front seat
> > of the PU for the short little sight-seeing trips.
> >
> > (If I know that I'm going to have an emergency, I always take the TV/VCR
> and extra
> > condoms of course!)
> >
> > Scott in Nome
> >
> >
> > kurt schrader wrote:
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > I continue to wonder what to really carry along in my
> > > plane. I suppose a lot depends upon the terrain I
> > > plan to fly over. Considerations are:
> > >
> > > Tire patch/pump
> > > 1 qt of oil
> > > Water
> > > Small socket/screwdriver handle
> > > Adjustable wrench
> > > Sparkplug
> > > Duct tape
> > > First aid kit
> > > Space blanket
> > > Small jump start battery
> > >
> > > If required:
> > > Flares
> > > Hand held radio
> > > Gun
> > > Survival fishing equipment
> > >
> > > Anyone have any other thoughts besides Jeff and
> > > Michel? What works for you? You Canadians and
> > > Alaskans might know best. What does the "required
> > > list" say?
> > >
> > > Kurt S.
> > >
> > > --- "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Life Preservers!
> > > >
> > > > Since moving to Chicago from Colorado, I've added
> > > > Life Preservers to my items of neccesity list.
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________
> > > http://messenger.yahoo.com/
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 30
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:13:05 PM PST US
> From: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Tool kits ala Alaska for Don
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock
<scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
>
> Don,
> That would be the flask of Tequila! One side concave for a tight "beam"
> the
> other, convex for a wide one!
> When the sun's not shining, (why would you crash on a nice day?) you
> drink the
> contents, contemplating that parachute cord and getting your lie
> straight.
> Scott in Nome
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Don wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don" <donfox@inreach.com>
> >
> > Scott, no signal mirror? Don
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 31
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:55:34 PM PST US
> From: "Bruce Lina" <airlina@usadatanet.net>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Lina" <airlina@usadatanet.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> >
> > Thanks Darrel, Bruce and Ted.
> > Bruce made the point that I forgot and that is the reason I want to
level
> the
> > plane on a dolly before folding the wings (apart from the weight of it),
> > namely, the emptying of the tanks! If I get it level, I don't have to
> worry
> > about that.
> > Hum, I'll look again at my old drawing of a dolly on a free-castoring
> wheel
> > that can be locked.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michel
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 32
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:56:50 PM PST US
> From: "Bruce Lina" <airlina@usadatanet.net>
> Subject: Kitfox-List:
> 1.9 DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06 Date: is 3 to 6 hours after Received:
date
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Lina" <airlina@usadatanet.net>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 33
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:44:35 PM PST US
> From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re interference
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
>
> Hi ! Graeme,
> re your interference problems.
> My name is Rex Shaw. I live in Berri Sth Aust and own a Kitfox MKIV
Classic
> Speedster. We had a lot of noise once the engine started. There was a
choke
> in the power run to the intercom and noise cancelling for the headsets.
The
> power for the Icom A20 radio was not fed through this although it is
mounted
> on the instrument panel in flight. It does then take it's power from the
> plane and the audio is fed into the intercom. The antenna is mounted about
> half way back on top of the fuselage.
> OK I am a retired electronics tech so I suppose that helps a bit but
what
> I did was put a 2,200uf capacitor to ground from each side of the choke, I
> then fed through a 9 volt regulator chip, after that there is a 10uf cap
to
> ground with a small .001uf , I think I used, across it. If you can follow
me
> that's great but if not and you want more detail contact me and I'll
arrange
> it.
> The result was that all the screaming noise that came as soon as the
Rotax
> 582 started was completely gone. There is still noises associated with the
> radio when recieving and noise [ but not the screaming ] when talking on
the
> intercom. I'm not sure one can do much better although I did lose a little
> volume because I dropped back to 9volts to the intercomm and noise
> cancelling in the phones. However I can easilly bump this up with a diode
or
> resistor in the common leg of the regulator chip.
> Really 9 volts is what it is supposed to be but it was 12 volts. I just
> have to keep enough drop from the battery voltage to the new filtered rail
> [ 9 volts ] It is considered 3 volts drop is about right for good
> regulation and filtering. ie:- 12-9=3
> however the 12 volts will be more like 13.8 with the alternator running so
I
> should easilly be able to come up 2 volts.
> Actually it's really quite good it's just that I have pretty bad ears.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rex.
> rexjan@bigpond.com
>
> rexjan@bigpond.com
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 34
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>
>
> Time: 06:34:17 PM PST US
> From: "Jay Fabian" <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: (off-topic) Our hometown
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian"
<experimental208nd@comcast.net>
>
> Hi All,
> I live and fly 30+ miles south of Boston, Massachusetts. I fly mostly over
Cape
> Cod, and the islands. Things to fly over are The Mayflower2 ship, Plymouth
rock,
> and Plymouth Plantation. In case some of you do not know what these are
they
> are from when the Pilgrims came to America and first landed on dry land in
> 1620, and founded the first colony. On nice mornings myself and another
Kitfox
> will fly over to Nantucket, or Martha's Vineyard islands for breakfast.
Its
> about a half hour or so by air in the Foxes. Most of the waters are
shallow and
> you can see all the sand bars below, and in the winter if you get down
very
> low you see all the giant seals sunning themselves on the rocks.
>
> This is also the Cranberry capital of the world. Ocean Spray Cranberries
Head Quarters
> is right in my home town Lakeville, Mass. As for places to land in
emergencies
> south of Boston there is lots of pine and Oak forests, lakes, swamps,corn
> fields, and plenty of Cranberry bogs to try and land. Well that's my small
> contribution , hope you like it also as I can envision flying in some of
the
> other lands described sofar.
> thanks
> Jay Fabian
> Kitfox 4-1200 912ul
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 35
____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:38:16 PM PST US
> From: "Flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Flier" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Michel,
>
> I'd experiment with how much fuel you can hold. I very rarely drain my
> tanks down. As long as the fuel is an inch or more below the filler neck
> when I fold, they're fine. That's about half tanks and usually after I
fly
> that's about all that's left! :
> )
>
> Regards,
>
> Ted
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Lina
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Lina" <airlina@usadatanet.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> >
> > Thanks Darrel, Bruce and Ted.
> > Bruce made the point that I forgot and that is the reason I want to
level
> the
> > plane on a dolly before folding the wings (apart from the weight of it),
> > namely, the emptying of the tanks! If I get it level, I don't have to
> worry
> > about that.
> > Hum, I'll look again at my old drawing of a dolly on a free-castoring
> wheel
> > that can be locked.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michel
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 36
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>
>
> Time: 06:52:47 PM PST US
> From: Steve Winder <ukav8r@mindspring.com> (by way of Matt Dralle
<dralle@matronics.com>)
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Flaperon Request
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Winder <ukav8r@mindspring.com>
(by way
> of Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>)
>
>
> >
> >Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 16:46:33 -0600
> >From: Steve Winder <ukav8r@mindspring.com>
> >Organization: Airdale LLC
> >Subject: Kitfox owner requires Flaperons
> >
> >Kitfox webmaster.
> >This is Steve Winder at Airdale. We make and supply parts for Avids and
> >older Kitfoxes
> >Trying to find a Richard Beamer.
> >He sent me an email today, 1 st June regarding flaperons for his Kitfox
II.
> >Unfortunatley, before I had time to reply, my Netscape Browser bombed out
> >with illegal operation--when re loaded lost his email.
> >If you have a Richard Beamer on your files--
> >If possible ask Richard to re-send his email---
> >Many thanks,
> >Steve
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 37
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>
>
> Time: 07:30:00 PM PST US
> From: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: (off-topic) Our hometown
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
>
> I have to object. The Puritans were late comers compared to the
> Jamestown colony and both were really late compared to the Spanish in
> Florida. Other than that, they were truely sturdy and brave, if awfully
> stiff necked, pioneers. Still, the area must be really beautiful from
> the air.
>
> Jerry Liles
>
> Jay Fabian wrote:
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian"
<experimental208nd@comcast.net>
> >
> >Hi All,
> >I live and fly 30+ miles south of Boston, Massachusetts. I fly mostly
over Cape
> Cod, and the islands. Things to fly over are The Mayflower2 ship, Plymouth
rock,
> and Plymouth Plantation. In case some of you do not know what these are
they
> are from when the Pilgrims came to America and first landed on dry land in
> 1620, and founded the first colony. On nice mornings myself and another
Kitfox
> will fly over to Nantucket, or Martha's Vineyard islands for breakfast.
Its
> about a half hour or so by air in the Foxes. Most of the waters are
shallow and
> you can see all the sand bars below, and in the winter if you get down
very
> low you see all the giant seals sunning themselves on the rocks.
> >
> >This is also the Cranberry capital of the world. Ocean Spray Cranberries
Head
> Quarters is right in my home town Lakeville, Mass. As for places to land
in emergencies
> south of Boston there is lots of pine and Oak forests, lakes, swamps,corn
> fields, and plenty of Cranberry bogs to try and land. Well that's my small
> contribution , hope you like it also as I can envision flying in some of
the
> other lands described sofar.
> >thanks
> >Jay Fabian
> >Kitfox 4-1200 912ul
> >do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 38
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>
>
> Time: 08:04:11 PM PST US
> From: "Jay Fabian" <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: (off-topic) Our hometown
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian"
<experimental208nd@comcast.net>
>
> I must admit that I never got good grades in History in school.
> Jay
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Liles" <wliles@bayou.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: (off-topic) Our hometown
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
> >
> > I have to object. The Puritans were late comers compared to the
> > Jamestown colony and both were really late compared to the Spanish in
> > Florida. Other than that, they were truely sturdy and brave, if awfully
> > stiff necked, pioneers. Still, the area must be really beautiful from
> > the air.
> >
> > Jerry Liles
> >
> > Jay Fabian wrote:
> >
> > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian"
> <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
> > >
> > >Hi All,
> > >I live and fly 30+ miles south of Boston, Massachusetts. I fly mostly
> over Cape Cod, and the islands. Things to fly over are The Mayflower2
ship,
> Plymouth rock, and Plymouth Plantation. In case some of you do not know
what
> these are they are from when the Pilgrims came to America and first landed
> on dry land in 1620, and founded the first colony. On nice mornings myself
> and another Kitfox will fly over to Nantucket, or Martha's Vineyard
islands
> for breakfast. Its about a half hour or so by air in the Foxes. Most of
the
> waters are shallow and you can see all the sand bars below, and in the
> winter if you get down very low you see all the giant seals sunning
> themselves on the rocks.
> > >
> > >This is also the Cranberry capital of the world. Ocean Spray
Cranberries
> Head Quarters is right in my home town Lakeville, Mass. As for places to
> land in emergencies south of Boston there is lots of pine and Oak forests,
> lakes, swamps,corn fields, and plenty of Cranberry bogs to try and land.
> Well that's my small contribution , hope you like it also as I can
envision
> flying in some of the other lands described sofar.
> > >thanks
> > >Jay Fabian
> > >Kitfox 4-1200 912ul
> > >do not archive
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 39
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>
>
> Time: 08:23:46 PM PST US
> From: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Vortex generators picture.
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker"
<jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Hi Michel,
>
> By now you have recieved some very good advice on folding wings. I also
> have a model III and used to fold and tow for every flight until just
about
> three weeks ago. I finally broke down and rented a hanger. I decided
that
> I do not work on the plane at home enough (After 3 years of mods and
> upgrades) to make it necasary to tow. Also the little damage from
> constantly folding and stowing and reassembly made it obvious that it is
NOT
> a good idea to fold after each flight.
>
> I ALWAYs fold the wings alone so that I do not lose track of my sequence
and
> cross check during the process. It is very easy to hold back the wing
from
> swinging when the fuselage is in three point position. BUT IT IS CRITICAL
> that the flap handle is operated correctly during the procedure. You can
> easily breakoff the flaperons if you let it hit the fuselage. I have
found
> that one wing folds more easilly first. It always is the first to fold
and
> the last to unfold. The flap handle only needs to be operated on the last
> wing to fold. When unfolding the flap handle needs to be moved while
> swinging the wing out but it is not as critical as the folding operation.
>
> Wind is also a factor. Not so much for the wings but for the turtle deck.
> I have had it flippped out of my hands even when I thought I was ready for
> the wind.
>
> The first few times I folded I had at least two of us to watch every point
> on the wing during the process until every hazard was noted. Once I coud
do
> it by myself I refused all help as it is more of a destraction than a
help.
>
> Jim Shumaker
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Vortex generators picture.
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> >
> > jimshumaker wrote:
> > > Finally got a picture of my VG's uploaded on Sportflight. Sorry for
the
> delay.
> >
> > Thank you for the posting, Jim. I see that you fold your wings. Can you
do
> it
> > alone or do you need to be two?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michel
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 40
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>
>
> Time: 08:56:22 PM PST US
> From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: (Of topic) Our Hometown
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Good on ya Jay. There are names you have mentioned that I know Aussies are
familiar
> with. I believe Martha's vineyard is your Presidents retreat and if Im not
> mistaken our Prime Minister is there at the moment. We often fly over
shallow
> water ourselves and its a buzz to see the marine life. It sound like a
great
> place to fly.
>
> Cheers
> Graeme
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 41
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>
>
> Time: 09:33:28 PM PST US
> From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re interference
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Thanks Rex, I'm up in CQ. I have your number somewhere. I will phone you
> when I find it to discuss how you fitted the radio.
>
> Cheers
> Graeme
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re interference
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
> >
> > Hi ! Graeme,
> > re your interference problems.
> > My name is Rex Shaw. I live in Berri Sth Aust and own a Kitfox MKIV
> Classic
> > Speedster. We had a lot of noise once the engine started. There was a
> choke
> > in the power run to the intercom and noise cancelling for the headsets.
> The
> > power for the Icom A20 radio was not fed through this although it is
> mounted
> > on the instrument panel in flight. It does then take it's power from the
> > plane and the audio is fed into the intercom. The antenna is mounted
about
> > half way back on top of the fuselage.
> > OK I am a retired electronics tech so I suppose that helps a bit but
> what
> > I did was put a 2,200uf capacitor to ground from each side of the choke,
I
> > then fed through a 9 volt regulator chip, after that there is a 10uf cap
> to
> > ground with a small .001uf , I think I used, across it. If you can
follow
> me
> > that's great but if not and you want more detail contact me and I'll
> arrange
> > it.
> > The result was that all the screaming noise that came as soon as the
> Rotax
> > 582 started was completely gone. There is still noises associated with
the
> > radio when recieving and noise [ but not the screaming ] when talking on
> the
> > intercom. I'm not sure one can do much better although I did lose a
little
> > volume because I dropped back to 9volts to the intercomm and noise
> > cancelling in the phones. However I can easilly bump this up with a
diode
> or
> > resistor in the common leg of the regulator chip.
> > Really 9 volts is what it is supposed to be but it was 12 volts. I
just
> > have to keep enough drop from the battery voltage to the new filtered
rail
> > [ 9 volts ] It is considered 3 volts drop is about right for good
> > regulation and filtering. ie:- 12-9=3
> > however the 12 volts will be more like 13.8 with the alternator running
so
> I
> > should easilly be able to come up 2 volts.
> > Actually it's really quite good it's just that I have pretty bad ears.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rex.
> > rexjan@bigpond.com
> >
> > rexjan@bigpond.com
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 42
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>
>
> Time: 10:21:40 PM PST US
> From: "kyle Ponsford" <wild_kyle@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: folding wings
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kyle Ponsford" <wild_kyle@hotmail.com>
>
> I used to fold my wings regularly by myself no problems whatsoever, I will
> say I like it better not to fold them. gets to be a pain. also, the fuel
> problem gets to be frustrating but I think its designed that way so there
is
> not much weight in the wings when folded to avoid stress on the pivots and
> struts. I know I have to nearly drain my tanks to keep them from running
> out.
> when I rented a hanger with several other guys I built a tail stand on
> wheels that has a leaver bar, so I role it under the tail, push the lever
> down and the tail comes up. has a chain to lock it in place. It worked
fine,
> but now I don't use it. I keep her parked in my yard and only fold my
wings
> when putting it in my shop for winter, or vacation.
> Kyle
>
>
> >From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
> >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>, <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: folding wings
> >Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 09:05:10 -0500
> >
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
> >
> >I've been folding the wings on my long wing IV now
> >for eight years. No tools required. Just grab the
> >lift strut and go, open or folded. It's an easy one
> >person task.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Ted
> >
> >
> >--- Original Message ---
> >From: michel <michel@online.no>
> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: folding wings
> >
> > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel
> ><michel@online.no>
> > >
> > >Thanks for your answers, Ray and Jeff.
> > >
> > >>===== Original Message From "Fox5flyer"
> ><morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> > >>Haven't you folded your wings yet Michael?
> > >
> > >Yes, I have, Darrel. My plane arrived by truck,
> >wings folded. Then I fold them
> > >about 3 times a year, for inspection.
> > >The reason of my asking is that we discuss a better
> >hangar place distribution
> > >and folding my wings after each flight would make
> >things simpler. However I am
> > >afraid to have to do it alone. Jeff's idea of a rope
> >is a good one but still
> > >... I don't know. The point is: I was first in the
> >hangar and I can claim to
> > >keep it that way, with the wings open. On the other
> >hand, I try to be a nice
> > >guy and welcome newcomers. Another solution I am
> >contemplating: The building
> > >of a tail dolly that keeps the plane level and
> >doesn't pull the wings backward
> > >once the pin removed.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Michel
> > >
> > >
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> ________________________________ Message 43
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>
>
> Time: 10:38:06 PM PST US
> From: "kyle Ponsford" <wild_kyle@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Toolkits
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kyle Ponsford" <wild_kyle@hotmail.com>
>
> speaking of tire kits, does anyone know how to get tires for the IV? I
have
> the old tube frame landing gear and matco breaks, can't find tires, I have
> the original 21" tires and would love to go even bigger. but can't find
even
> 21s anymore. and these rocks are giving me lots of repair practice!
> I wouldnt travel without a pump and repair kit.
> after the question I just went through the FAR 91 and cant find the
required
> list, FAR 91.513 lists emergency equipment but it is for "Large and Turbin
> powered mutiengine airplanes."
> Im still looking...
> Kyle
>
>
> >From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Toolkits
> >Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 20:29:25 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> ><smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> >
> >I continue to wonder what to really carry along in my
> >plane. I suppose a lot depends upon the terrain I
> >plan to fly over. Considerations are:
> >
> >Tire patch/pump
> >1 qt of oil
> >Water
> >Small socket/screwdriver handle
> >Adjustable wrench
> >Sparkplug
> >Duct tape
> >First aid kit
> >Space blanket
> >Small jump start battery
> >
> >If required:
> >Flares
> >Hand held radio
> >Gun
> >Survival fishing equipment
> >
> >Anyone have any other thoughts besides Jeff and
> >Michel? What works for you? You Canadians and
> >Alaskans might know best. What does the "required
> >list" say?
> >
> >Kurt S.
> >
> >--- "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
> >wrote:
> > >
> > > Life Preservers!
> > >
> > > Since moving to Chicago from Colorado, I've added
> > > Life Preservers to my items of neccesity list.
> > > Getting around Chicago safely you need
> > > to do some over water time. Landing on shore in
> > > many areas is simply out of the question.
> > >
> > > Original Message:
> > > -----------------
> > > From: michel michel@online.no
> > > Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:51:35 +0200
> > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Toolkits WAS: Chocks
> > >
> > >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: michel
> > > <michel@online.no>
> > >
> > > >===== Original Message From kurt schrader
> > > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> > > >We should compare flight tool kits here sometime to
> > > >see what everyone has found as "necessary".
> > >
> > > My faithful Swiss knife, a mini Maglite, a sparkplug
> > > key, 4 spare sparkplugs
> > > ... that's all. I travel light. Looking forward to
> > > hearing from you, guys.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Michel
> >
> >
> >__________________________________
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> >
> >
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> ________________________________ Message 44
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>
>
> Time: 11:48:44 PM PST US
> From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly
Posting]
> DNA: do not archive
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
> Dear Lister,
>
> Please read over the Kitfox-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
> Kitfox-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
> following URL:
>
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>
> Thank you,
>
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> Matronics Email List Administrator
>
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