Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Mon 06/07/04


Total Messages Posted: 24



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:22 AM - Magnetic interfierence (Graeme Toft)
     2. 03:53 AM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
     3. 04:27 AM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (Graeme Toft)
     4. 04:45 AM - Re: Speedometer Testing (jareds)
     5. 04:59 AM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (Vic Jacko)
     6. 06:13 AM - New Kitfox Owners! (Jo and Larry)
     7. 06:51 AM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (Kirk Martenson)
     8. 08:40 AM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
     9. 08:43 AM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
    10. 08:50 AM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (kitfoxpilot)
    11. 09:45 AM - Super Fox, Was: New Kitfox5 builder (Clifford Begnaud)
    12. 10:11 AM - Re: Speedometer Testing (Paul)
    13. 10:15 AM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (kurt schrader)
    14. 10:30 AM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (kurt schrader)
    15. 10:33 AM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (kurt schrader)
    16. 10:38 AM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (Vic Jacko)
    17. 11:26 AM - Re: New Kitfox5 builder (kyle Ponsford)
    18. 05:34 PM - Amphib Float Rigging ()
    19. 05:37 PM - test (jareds)
    20. 06:09 PM - Avid Website (Don Pearsall)
    21. 06:10 PM - Re: Speedometer Testing (jimshumaker)
    22. 06:44 PM - Avid Website (hausding, sid)
    23. 08:34 PM - Re: Toolkits (Shane Sather)
    24. 11:26 PM - Magnetic interfierence (Graeme Toft)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:22:15 AM PST US
    From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: Magnetic interfierence
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> We are flying off our first 25 hours prior to registration and are finishing off the final fitting of nav instruments prior to being let loose. On positioning the magnetic compass it immediately swung 130 degrees. We have been told that the airframe can hold a magnetic field that will swing a compass this much and that it can be discharged from the airframe some how. Does anyone have experience with this problem or can some one suggest how we can bring the compass back within manageable adjustment parameters by neutralising the interference. Thanks Graeme


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    Time: 03:53:36 AM PST US
    From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Magnetic interfierence
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 6/7/04 12:24:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, msm@byterocky.net writes: > can hold a magnetic field that will swing a compass this much and that it > can be discharged from the airframe some how. Does anyone have experience with > this problem or can some one suggest how we can bring the compass back > within manageable adjustment parameters by neutralising the interference. > > Thanks > Graeme > I have had the same problem with my compass since day one. Any place I try to put the compass on the panel cover, I get bad readings. I found that a spot just above the throttle works for me. I made a bracket and attached it to the inst panel in that location. You may have to look around for a good location. Don Smythe


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    Time: 04:27:38 AM PST US
    From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: Re: Magnetic interfierence
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> Thanks Don, I've tried every place possible but still get swings of over 100 + degrees. A licensed aircraft maintenance engineer told me that this electrical or magnetic field can be introduced into the airframe in the factory when the airframe is welded together. It can and does stay in the frame for years. My KF is a Model 1 so if this is true its been there a long time, There are ways apparently of dumping this energy. Methods used that I have heard of are "rubbing a strong magnet over the airframe" and "placing an earth spike in place". I tried the magnet with no noticeable results. Graeme ----- Original Message ----- From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic interfierence > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com > > In a message dated 6/7/04 12:24:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > msm@byterocky.net writes: > > > > can hold a magnetic field that will swing a compass this much and that it > > can be discharged from the airframe some how. Does anyone have experience with > > this problem or can some one suggest how we can bring the compass back > > within manageable adjustment parameters by neutralising the interference. > > > > Thanks > > Graeme > > > > I have had the same problem with my compass since day one. Any place I try > to put the compass on the panel cover, I get bad readings. I found that a spot > just above the throttle works for me. I made a bracket and attached it to > the inst panel in that location. You may have to look around for a good > location. > > Don Smythe > >


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    Time: 04:45:19 AM PST US
    From: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Speedometer Testing
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net> Thanks once again Kurt! I actually had printed article to PDF but kept no reference when i did a search on my emails! do not archive. kurt schrader wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > >I remembered us talking about this a while back and >found it again on Sportflight. It was from April >2003. > >Here is a quick reference. > > > >>http://www.sportflight.com/uploads/ASICalibration.pdf> >> >> > >It is under "Text/articles if the web page doesn't get >you right there. > >Kurt S. > >--- jimshumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > >>Jared >> >>Don't roll up the oxygen hose. You can damage the >>airspeed indicator very >>easily. Instead use a clear hose and put a little >>water in it. When the >>nesmis (water levels) are even the airspeed is 0. >>If you raise the free end >>of the tube the water level should be uneven. There >>is a table (maybe on >>the list) that correlates the height to speed. I >>believe 112mm is 100 mph. >>But if you are careful, you can raise the airspeed >>and then tape the tube in >>place. Leave it for about an hour to test the >>system for leaks. >> >>Jim Shumaker >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "jareds" <jareds@verizon.net> >>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >>Subject: Kitfox-List: Speedometer Testing >> >> >> >> >>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds >>> >>> >><jareds@verizon.net> >> >> >>> Anyone have some tips on testing the airspeed >>> >>> >>indicator? I remember >> >> >>>reading an article about putting a rubber length >>> >>> >>of surgical hose on the >> >> >>>pito tube and rolling it up to see if speed holds >>> >>> >>pretty steady for "x" >> >> >>>seconds? >>>Can someone refresh my memory on how they make >>> >>> >>sure it is working? >> >> >>>Jared >>> >>> > > > > >__________________________________ >http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > >


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    Time: 04:59:20 AM PST US
    From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Magnetic interfierence
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net> Many years ago TV repairmen used a device called a "degaussing coil" to restore correct color in the TV sets they were working on. Many TV's had this coil built in to do this every time the set was turned on. Perhaps there is someone on the list smarter than me and others who are aware of the "degaussing " of the welded frame? Not much help but a very good discussion point from which we may all learn something of value. Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic interfierence > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> > > Thanks Don, I've tried every place possible but still get swings of over 100 > + degrees. A licensed aircraft maintenance engineer told me that this > electrical or magnetic field can be introduced into the airframe in the > factory when the airframe is welded together. It can and does stay in the > frame for years. My KF is a Model 1 so if this is true its been there a long > time, There are ways apparently of dumping this energy. Methods used that I > have heard of are "rubbing a strong magnet over the airframe" and "placing > an earth spike in place". I tried the magnet with no noticeable results. > > Graeme > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic interfierence > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com > > > > In a message dated 6/7/04 12:24:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > msm@byterocky.net writes: > > > > > > > can hold a magnetic field that will swing a compass this much and that > it > > > can be discharged from the airframe some how. Does anyone have > experience with > > > this problem or can some one suggest how we can bring the compass back > > > within manageable adjustment parameters by neutralising the > interference. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Graeme > > > > > > > I have had the same problem with my compass since day one. Any place I > try > > to put the compass on the panel cover, I get bad readings. I found that a > spot > > just above the throttle works for me. I made a bracket and attached it to > > the inst panel in that location. You may have to look around for a good > > location. > > > > Don Smythe > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:13:48 AM PST US
    From: "Jo and Larry" <joandlp@starband.net>
    Subject: New Kitfox Owners!
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jo and Larry" <joandlp@starband.net> Hello Group, A friend and I just purchased Grant Gordons Kitfox 4, based in Aledo Texas. We will be getting some taildragger instruction from a local CFI and then it is up-up-and away! Any other owners in the north Texas area? I will request your indulgence of our newbie questions in advance and look forward to recieving any input. We are pumped! Larry Austin


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    Time: 06:51:19 AM PST US
    From: "Kirk Martenson" <kirk@mninter.net>
    Subject: Re: Magnetic interfierence
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kirk Martenson" <kirk@mninter.net> Hello Graeme: I had the same problem, so I used a demagnetizer that I bought from MSC industrial supply company. It worked great. Now I have my compass mounted on my windshield, and have been able to adjust it properly. Good Luck, Kirk Martenson Classic IV Here is the link: http://www.mscdirect.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=2010009&pcount=15&Product_Id=174430&Keyword=Y ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Magnetic interfierence > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> > > We are flying off our first 25 hours prior to registration and are finishing off the final fitting of nav instruments prior to being let loose. On positioning the magnetic compass it immediately swung 130 degrees. We have been told that the airframe can hold a magnetic field that will swing a compass this much and that it can be discharged from the airframe some how. Does anyone have experience with this problem or can some one suggest how we can bring the compass back within manageable adjustment parameters by neutralising the interference. > > Thanks > Graeme > >


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    Time: 08:40:04 AM PST US
    From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Magnetic interfierence
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 6/7/04 4:28:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, msm@byterocky.net writes: > have heard of are "rubbing a strong magnet over the airframe" and "placing > an earth spike in place". I tried the magnet with no noticeable results. > > Graeme > I tried several different compasses including one electronic digital unit. Most of the compasses were cheap brands. You might want to try a different compass. Maybe borrow one that's laying around the airport somewhere. Don Smythe


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    Time: 08:43:15 AM PST US
    From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Magnetic interfierence
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 6/7/04 5:01:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, vicwj@earthlink.net writes: > "degaussing " of the welded frame? > > Not much help but a very good discussion point from which we may all learn > something of value. > > Vic > > One thing about degaussing that always brought up a question in my mind. Once degaussed and the compass is working fine, what about when the magnetic qualities of the airframe return? Don't know for sure that this is the case. In my case, I searched for a location that worked without having to worry about degaussing??? Don Smythe DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 08:50:50 AM PST US
    From: "kitfoxpilot" <kitfoxpilot@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Magnetic interfierence
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxpilot" <kitfoxpilot@comcast.net> Hi Graeme, I worked for Mooney Aircraft back in 94. Prior to installing aileron torque tube in the wing I had to pass the tube thru an electric coil. To demagnetize the 9 foot long welded steel tube. The welded steel forward fuselage also received demagnetizing. Though I'm not sure how the did the larger fuselage section. That was the first time that I had ever heard of welded steel airframes creating a magnetic field. I would have never even guessed that even the aileron torque tube could create a magnetic field. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Magnetic interfierence > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> > > We are flying off our first 25 hours prior to registration and are finishing off the final fitting of nav instruments prior to being let loose. On positioning the magnetic compass it immediately swung 130 degrees. We have been told that the airframe can hold a magnetic field that will swing a compass this much and that it can be discharged from the airframe some how. Does anyone have experience with this problem or can some one suggest how we can bring the compass back within manageable adjustment parameters by neutralising the interference. > > Thanks > Graeme > >


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    Time: 09:45:22 AM PST US
    From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
    Subject: Super Fox, Was: New Kitfox5 builder
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> > Cliff, great write-up, I could not have said it better! (I want my plane > back) Vic, for $50k, it's yours ;-) > On the subject of more power in the 5. > > You may be aware there are STC,s to allow 180 HP in the lowly Cessna 150's > and 152's . I would not think Cessna knew this would happen when they > originally designed the airframe. The Super Cub is another example. I don't know anything about the c150 stc, but the 180 supercub conversions had some problems. The most noteworthy perhaps being the tail feathers not being strong enough for the additional prop blast. This could well be a problem on the kitfox. Since we're fantasizing about a Super Fox, let's take it to the next level. If one were to build a kitfox for the next range up of engine power, I would prefer to see it done for the 0-360. This would require building a slightly larger kitfox with a longer, wider fuselage (just a few inches) and a larger higher lift wing. The wider fuse would be more comfortable for large pilots and increase cargo space. The longer fuse would keep the CG in line with larger engines and with the metal prop that is really needed for a bush plane, as well as allow for a larger cargo area. The current one is not too shabby, but for REAL back country work, a larger cargo area is needed for hauling out the proverbial moose. Also, a supercub type gear would be much preferable because the narrow mounting of the current spring gear is too susceptible to shearing off during "off airport" operations. Also, the tailwheel mounting system would need to be beefed up. It probably wouldn't add 75 lbs to the airframe to make a larger version, but with a larger, higher lift wing and 180 hp, the thing would be an absolute back country BEAST! Empty weight could realistically be held under 1000 lbs. Most supercubs with 180 engines are well over 1200 lbs, even most 160's top 1200. Of course there are a few stripped down 150 hp SC's, with no electric that weigh under 1000 lbs and these are the best performers. But a side by side airplane is desirable for a number of reasons, not least of which is cargo! > > By the way, If you leave off the front ring gear/ flywheel you would save a > lot of weight and it would sure make it easy to seal the shroud around the > front of the engine. Not a bad idea, I guess if you used a metal prop it could act as the flywheel. Plus, with one electronic ignition setup as I described in the previous post, you wouldn't need a starter. I would probably rig up a release of some sort so that I could use tie downs to hold the plane when starting, then release it from the cockpit. > > Perhaps after I finish my RV-9 I will build a "Super Fox" > > Vic Hard to give up these planes, isn't it? I guess that's why our RV9 is still sitting unfinished down in the hangar. Best Regards, Cliff


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    Time: 10:11:38 AM PST US
    From: Paul <pwilson@climber.org>
    Subject: Re: Speedometer Testing
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul <pwilson@climber.org> The manometer method is a total waste of time. The math required to do altitude compensation is just not worth the trouble. Too much theoretical stuff to foul up on. The correct way is to go fly. You can fly a wind compensating triangular course and do some easy math. OR best of all just fly wind compensating directions with your GPS and call it done. Paul ============ At 7:28 PM -0400 6/6/04, jareds wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net> > > Anyone have some tips on testing the airspeed indicator? I remember >reading an article about putting a rubber length of surgical hose on the >pito tube and rolling it up to see if speed holds pretty steady for "x" >seconds? >Can someone refresh my memory on how they make sure it is working? > >Jared --


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    Time: 10:15:06 AM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Magnetic interfierence
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> We discussed this one a while back too. There were a number of good suggestions. IMHO, if welding causes it, a welder can remove it. First take the compass out. Then you should disconnect all electrical connections to the frame for safety. You don't want to fry anything. Then attach an AC welder to the front and rear portions of the frame and pass a low current thru it to demagnetize it. Set for the lowest voltage, below 12v is best. You don't want to weld anything, just run an AC current thru it. Let it sit like that for a minute and the AC current should do the job. Don is right though. Using the frame as a ground conductor will remagnetize it over time. The starter current is the worst at this. Having the battery in the rear like mine makes sure the entire frame remagnetizes. Poo! If you have a battery near the engine, using a seperate ground path from the starter back to he battery will slow the remagnetizing considerably. If you can avoid using the frame as a conductor, it should take a long time to remagnetize. If you can get a strong degausser, that may work if you go over the entire airframe with it. Still take out the compass, but you shouldn't need to disconnect anything. Kurt S. --- AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote: > > > "degaussing " of the welded frame? > > > > Not much help but a very good discussion point > from which we may all learn > > something of value. > > > > Vic > > One thing about degaussing that always brought > up a question in my mind. Once degaussed and the > compass is working fine, what about when the > magnetic qualities of the airframe return? > Don't know for sure that this is the case. > In my case, I searched for a location that > worked without having to worry about degaussing??? > > Don Smythe > DO NOT ARCHIVE __________________________________ http://messenger.yahoo.com/


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    Time: 10:30:11 AM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Magnetic interfierence
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> This looks like a good one. Maybe your EAA chapter could buy one for everyone. You don't need it often and the cost could be spread out to all the users? Kurt S. Do not archive --- Kirk Martenson <kirk@mninter.net> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kirk Martenson" > <kirk@mninter.net> > > Hello Graeme: > > I had the same problem, so I used a demagnetizer > that I bought from MSC > industrial supply company. It worked great. Now I > have my compass mounted > on my windshield, and have been able to adjust it > properly. > > Good Luck, > > Kirk Martenson > Classic IV > > Here is the link: > http://www.mscdirect.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=2010009&pcount=15&Product_Id=174430&Keyword=Y __________________________________ http://messenger.yahoo.com/


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    Time: 10:33:58 AM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Magnetic interfierence
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Using a strong magnet would magnetize it, not demagnetize it. You would have to swing the magnet in random circles all over it to do any good. The idea is to scramble the molecules. Kurt S. Do not archive. --- Graeme Toft <msm@byterocky.net> wrote: > > Thanks Don, I've tried every place possible but > still get swings of over 100 + degrees.......... > Methods used that I have heard of are "rubbing > a strong magnet over the airframe" and "placing > an earth spike in place". I tried the magnet with no > noticeable results. > > Graeme __________________________________ http://messenger.yahoo.com/


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    Time: 10:38:41 AM PST US
    From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Magnetic interfierence
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net> That demagnetizer sure looks a lot like the one we used (many years ago) to demagnetize the old 7" reel to reel audio tapes. It would also work on video tapes! Vic do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic interfierence > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > This looks like a good one. Maybe your EAA chapter > could buy one for everyone. You don't need it often > and the cost could be spread out to all the users? > > Kurt S. > > Do not archive > > --- Kirk Martenson <kirk@mninter.net> wrote: > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kirk Martenson" > > <kirk@mninter.net> > > > > Hello Graeme: > > > > I had the same problem, so I used a demagnetizer > > that I bought from MSC > > industrial supply company. It worked great. Now I > > have my compass mounted > > on my windshield, and have been able to adjust it > > properly. > > > > Good Luck, > > > > Kirk Martenson > > Classic IV > > > > Here is the link: > > > http://www.mscdirect.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=2010009&pcount=15&Product_Id=174430&Keyword=Y > > > __________________________________ > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > >


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    Time: 11:26:31 AM PST US
    From: "kyle Ponsford" <wild_kyle@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: New Kitfox5 builder
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kyle Ponsford" <wild_kyle@hotmail.com> Lowell, Yep, my typo was my weight, my KF4 weighs 571lb. I am glad to hear about your dependability with the engine, I am still trying to trust mine but it is getting better fast! It is so fun to be back in the sky, This list has been a great help! thanks, Kyle >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com> > >Kyle, No problem in my mind. I was wondering about your weights, didn't >you mean 650 lbs. Mine is 700 and is a fat bird by local standards. I >also >fly behind the R-912 and love its dependability. I have about just over >600 >hours on mine and it just runs and runs. > Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/


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    Time: 05:34:07 PM PST US
    From: <barryhuston@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Amphib Float Rigging
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: <barryhuston@adelphia.net> Hi Folks Am getting to the stage of installing float rudder and steering cables, cross wires etc. --- also cable to raise and lower rudder. Would welcome any tips and photos that would help get me there -- cable sizes, fittings, pulleys. Also, did anything have to be changed on the plane rudder drive? Barry Lake Ossipee, NH Model IV - 1200 --- 912 Rotax (603) 539-5569 (603) 630-0101 cell barryhuston@adelphia.net


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    Time: 05:37:37 PM PST US
    From: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
    Subject: test
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net> test do not archive


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    Time: 06:09:18 PM PST US
    From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
    Subject: Avid Website
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net> An Avid builder called me today and wanted me to get the word out about his Avid web site. It is a good source for those building an Avid or Avid plus. I also invited him and his group to join the Kitfox list. Check it out. http://www.avidflyeraircraft.com Don Pearsall


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    Time: 06:10:01 PM PST US
    From: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Speedometer Testing
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net> When I first started test flying my kitfox the numbers did not seem right with the airspeed indicator. I was flying with a Loran but the numbers did not agree with the airspeed. By doing the manometer test I was able to confirm there were leaks in the ram air system. A rubber hose at the wing fold had deteriated. After repair and further flight testing the numbers still did not work out. Using the manometer method again, I was able to determine the relative amount of error in the indicator at different indicated airspeeds. After adding an external static port the numbers agreed and the indicator was much easier to navigate with. Also, calibrated never exceed and stall speeds were much closer to the speeds marked on the dial. Jim Shumaker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <pwilson@climber.org> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speedometer Testing > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul <pwilson@climber.org> > > The manometer method is a total waste of time. The math required to do altitude compensation is just not worth the trouble. Too much theoretical stuff to foul up on. > > The correct way is to go fly. You can fly a wind compensating triangular course and do some easy math. OR best of all just fly wind compensating directions with your GPS and call it done. > > Paul > ============ > At 7:28 PM -0400 6/6/04, jareds wrote: > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net> > > > > Anyone have some tips on testing the airspeed indicator? I remember > >reading an article about putting a rubber length of surgical hose on the > >pito tube and rolling it up to see if speed holds pretty steady for "x" > >seconds? > >Can someone refresh my memory on how they make sure it is working? > > > >Jared > > -- > >


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    Time: 06:44:12 PM PST US
    From: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net>
    Subject: Avid Website
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "hausding, sid" <sidh@charter.net> Don, I'm trying to coordinate Jimmy and Mark to get Mark's trailer to Tennessee for Jimmy.........do you have Mark's home phone? Its not on the site today..........it will be okay for you to tell me. He has posted it on the Avid forum, but I can't find it in the archives. Sid --------------- An Avid builder called me today and wanted me to get the word out about his Avid web site. It is a good source for those building an Avid or Avid plus. I also invited him and his group to join the Kitfox list. Check it out. http://www.avidflyeraircraft.com Don Pearsall


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    Time: 08:34:43 PM PST US
    From: "Shane Sather" <jeffery@polarnet.ca>
    Subject: Re: Toolkits
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Shane Sather" <jeffery@polarnet.ca> For us nordiners we have to take snowshoe in the winter months Shane ----- Original Message ----- From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Toolkits > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > --- kyle Ponsford <wild_kyle@hotmail.com> wrote: > > ........ > > after the question I just went through the FAR 91 > > and cant find the required list, FAR 91.513 lists > > emergency equipment but it is for "Large and Turbin > > powered mutiengine airplanes." > > Im still looking... > > Kyle > > I think Canada has a "required list". Any of you > "nordiners" know a reference for it? > > Kurt S. > > > __________________________________ > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > >


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    Time: 11:26:20 PM PST US
    From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: Magnetic interfierence
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net> Wow, thanks guys. Lots of off line responses as well. We will run with Kurts suggestion of using the AC welding current as this appears to be an easy fix for us. Will keep you posted as to the results. I had no idea this was a common problem with welded steel frame aircraft but seems many of you have had to deal with this issue yourself. Cheers Graeme




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