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1. 04:38 AM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
2. 04:53 AM - Master Solenoid (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
3. 05:06 AM - Re: Master Solenoid (Dee Young)
4. 07:04 AM - Cameron Park Kitfox Fly-in (Lowell Fitt)
5. 07:08 AM - Fw: Toolkits (Shane Sather)
6. 09:37 AM - Re: Master solenoid (Randy Daughenbaugh)
7. 09:40 AM - Cell phone use in the air (Steve Zakreski)
8. 12:17 PM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (Daniel Aller)
9. 12:22 PM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (flier)
10. 02:14 PM - Re: Cell phone use in the air (Michel Verheughe)
11. 02:34 PM - Polycarbonate Header Tank sealant (Peter Brookes)
12. 05:34 PM - Re: Polycarbonate Header Tank sealant (Rick)
13. 07:02 PM - Re: Master solenoid (Dee Young)
14. 07:23 PM - Re: Magnetic interfierence (Kirk Martenson)
15. 08:07 PM - Re: Magnetic interference (Andy)
16. 08:10 PM - Interesting Flying Day (John E. King)
17. 08:31 PM - Re: Polycarbonate Header Tank sealant (Bob Unternaehrer)
18. 08:47 PM - Prop angle setting (Shane Sather)
19. 09:28 PM - Re: Need Kitfox to fly (Petergleason@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Magnetic interfierence |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 6/8/04 6:46:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
gjfpilot@yahoo.com writes:
> the Classic IV? Mine had two steel tubes that
> supported the panel that I had to replace with
> aluminum tubing. After that, the compass with accurate
> within 5 degrees.
>
> Grant Fluent
> Newcastle, NE
>
Grant,
I remember you replacing the two steel tubes and I ran to the airport to
remove mine. In my case, removing the tubes didn't do any good. I think a
compass on an airplane is a total individual matter and not two airplanes are
going to act the same. Must be a hit and miss thing.
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
On the master, I considered wiring my plane without a master solenoid and
using a hefty mechanical switch instead. Reason being, the solenoid is always
drawing about 1 amp of current just sitting there in the "on" position. Also,
it is a point of failure. I wired in a 14 ga. wire around the solenoid to a
switch on the panel marked "emer power". If the solenoid fails, I can bypass to
be able to do everything but "start" the engine. That 14 ga wire would melt
if the starter current was pulled through it.
Just my thoughts on a Master Solenoid,
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Master Solenoid |
Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 05:05:47 -0700
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Don I did exactly that, did not use a solenoid. Went directly thru a Master Switch
for everything. It works good.
Dee Young
Model II N345DY
----- Original Message -----
From: AlbertaIV@aol.com<mailto:AlbertaIV@aol.com>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 4:52 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Master Solenoid
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com<mailto:AlbertaIV@aol.com>
On the master, I considered wiring my plane without a master solenoid and
using a hefty mechanical switch instead. Reason being, the solenoid is always
drawing about 1 amp of current just sitting there in the "on" position. Also,
it is a point of failure. I wired in a 14 ga. wire around the solenoid to a
switch on the panel marked "emer power". If the solenoid fails, I can bypass
to
be able to do everything but "start" the engine. That 14 ga wire would melt
if the starter current was pulled through it.
Just my thoughts on a Master Solenoid,
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Cameron Park Kitfox Fly-in |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
We have been getting a lot of interest lately for the 6th edition of our fly-in
from people new to me. That is exciting as it is always fun to meet new folks,
especially Kitfox folks. Lot's of ol'timers will be here also. From the responses,
this could be the biggest one ever.
This mornings weather forecast predicts 90=B0 weather with a comment "Back to Summer"
- bring your sunscreen. There will be a lot of shade, though - just
bought two more Easy-Ups - my son will be getting married this summer in Orlando,
but his local "openhouse" will be in our hanger here and we are getting
ready for that too.
I wish everyone on the list could come. What a group that would be.
Lowell
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Shane Sather" <jeffery@polarnet.ca>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shane Sather" <jeffery@polarnet.ca>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Toolkits
> For us nordiners we have to take snowshoe in the winter months
>
> Shane
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 12:10 AM
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Toolkits
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> >
> > --- kyle Ponsford <wild_kyle@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > ........
> > > after the question I just went through the FAR 91
> > > and cant find the required list, FAR 91.513 lists
> > > emergency equipment but it is for "Large and Turbin
> > > powered mutiengine airplanes."
> > > Im still looking...
> > > Kyle
> >
> > I think Canada has a "required list". Any of you
> > "nordiners" know a reference for it?
> >
> > Kurt S.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > http://messenger.yahoo.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Thanks Jim and Ted.
It is installed correctly according to labels on it. It is a three contact
solenoid, so it wouldn't work at all if not correctly installed.
Don's and Dee's approach is tempting. Especially now that I know that they
can fail!
At any rate, I have a new one coming from Aircraft Spruce. Then we will
see.
Randy - on to find the next problem.....
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jimshumaker
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Master solenoid
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Randy
Sounds like the solenoid might be connected backwards....that is if it has a
suppresion diode/resister network internal to the contact the diode would
allow bleed through if connected reversed.
Is the solenoid warm even when it has been off?
Otherwise there is another circuit tied to the battery ahead of the Master.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Master solenoid
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
>
> My master solenoid leaks! When it is "off" it shows about 12.8 volts on
the
> side that should be zero! It won't carry much current and the voltage
drops
> off if any load is put on it, but it still is enough to drain the battery
> over a few days or week. (which seems to mean that I have some other
draw,
> or short, that I shouldn't have!) When the solenoid is "on" all works as
it
> is supposed to if the battery is up.
>
> Should I be hunting a new master solenoid? Or is there something else I
am
> missing?
>
> Thanks,
> Randy - Engine not started yet....
>
> .
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shane Sather
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Toolkits
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Shane Sather" <jeffery@polarnet.ca>
>
> For us nordiners we have to take snowshoe in the winter months
>
> Shane
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Toolkits
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> >
> > --- kyle Ponsford <wild_kyle@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > ........
> > > after the question I just went through the FAR 91
> > > and cant find the required list, FAR 91.513 lists
> > > emergency equipment but it is for "Large and Turbin
> > > powered mutiengine airplanes."
> > > Im still looking...
> > > Kyle
> >
> > I think Canada has a "required list". Any of you
> > "nordiners" know a reference for it?
> >
> > Kurt S.
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > http://messenger.yahoo.com/
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Cell phone use in the air |
2.6 CELL_PHONE_BOOST BODY": Talks.about.cell-phone.signal.improvement.1.0.FAKE_HELO_SHAW_CA.Host.HELO.did.not.match.rDNS:shaw.ca@matronics.com
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Here's a post from another list I belong to that I thought some of you may
find interesting. I answers why cell calls you "accidentally" made during
flight gets disconnected.
>>>>>
... "cellular" is designed and intended to be "line of sight" since you are
assumed to be on the ground ... they have software running in the cellular
"switch" (the mainframe that controls all the cell sites for a given area)
that turns you off from one cell site and turns you on at another as it
detects your signal strength getting weaker at one and stronger at the
other. In order to keep cellular chaos from ensuing the switch tries very
hard to make sure you are only on ONE cell site (and thus one frequency) at
any given time. In mountainous areas like the L.A. basin it is a real
art/science to keep the higher cell sites from "seeing" the lower cell sites
(things like "tilting" the cell site antenna as mentioned above are used to
help). The cell phone always wants to be on closest (strongest) cell
frequency and the cellular switch is always doing its best to oblige. It
constantly monitor's the signal strength reported from all the cell sites
that can "see" you and automatically switches you to the best one.
then some foreground ...
So then we birdmen come along and try to use the cellular telephone in our
airplanes. Of course once we get much above pattern altitude we get "line of
site" with many cell towers and the cell phone tries to connect with all of
them ... the switch whose job it is to make sure you are only ever connected
on ONE channel at any given time gets swarmed with multiple requests from
your cell phone trying to connect on WAY TOO MANY cell sites simultaneously.
In the early analog days that was why you often got "crosstalk" and could
hear other people on the same call. Because we are in the air, ALL of those
cell sites are reporting to the switch that THEY see you the strongest and
the switch algorithm dictates that it try to switch you to them. It gets
overwhelmed. But these cellular guys are pretty smart and have developed
software in the switch that can "notice" when you are trying to connect to
WAY too many cell sites. It concludes that either a) you are flying in an
airplane; b) have put a booster on your cell amplifier or; c) your telephone
has been "cloned" and multiple people are trying to use the same telephone
number at the same time. .... In any case it dumps your connection(s) ....
the first few times it considers it a fluke and just disconnects your phone
call ... If the switch (who tracks everything) notices that what should be a
fluky rare event happens A LOT TO YOU it then determines that you are not a
very nice cellular citizen and disconnects your phone (bans you) from the
system.
In the modern digital cellular world it is a bit more complicated than all
that but that is the general principle.
ONE airplane driver trying to make one phone call while flying at 5,000 feet
over a small city can wreak havoc on the cellular system. The cell guys are
not trying to be mean. They would love to process your phone call and make
more money. They just don't know how to make a land based (short range)
phone system also accommodate requests from the sky (long range).
Sometimes it works (better chances in rural areas) ... most often it does
not. If I were trying to use my phone in the airplane I would try to get
down around 600-900 feet agl, do tight 360 degree circles in a small area,
make a quick data dump and then climb back up.
Regards,
Dennis in Florida
(ex cellular guy who helped develop some of the above stuff ...)
>>>>
SteveZ
Calgary
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| Subject: | Re: Magnetic interfierence |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Daniel Aller" <daller1@zoominternet.net>
Hello Kert Martenson:
I have a Classic IV. My compass is out 50 degrees. How did you demagnetize
your tubes ? Did you do the ones near the compass or the entire air
plane.Was it necessary to disconnect strobes or avionics?
Dan Aller
Classic IV
N239DA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic interfierence
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
>
> That demagnetizer sure looks a lot like the one we used (many years ago)
to
> demagnetize the old 7" reel to reel audio tapes. It would also work on
> video tapes!
>
> Vic
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic interfierence
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> >
> > This looks like a good one. Maybe your EAA chapter
> > could buy one for everyone. You don't need it often
> > and the cost could be spread out to all the users?
> >
> > Kurt S.
> >
> > Do not archive
> >
> > --- Kirk Martenson <kirk@mninter.net> wrote:
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kirk Martenson"
> > > <kirk@mninter.net>
> > >
> > > Hello Graeme:
> > >
> > > I had the same problem, so I used a demagnetizer
> > > that I bought from MSC
> > > industrial supply company. It worked great. Now I
> > > have my compass mounted
> > > on my windshield, and have been able to adjust it
> > > properly.
> > >
> > > Good Luck,
> > >
> > > Kirk Martenson
> > > Classic IV
> > >
> > > Here is the link:
> > >
> >
>
http://www.mscdirect.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=2010009&pcount=15&Product_Id=174430&Keyword=Y
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > http://messenger.yahoo.com/
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Magnetic interfierence |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
Use a degaussing coil. TV repair shops normally have
them for degaussing CRTs. Just pass it all over the
front of the airframe. Covering and painting really
generates a charge on the chromoly frame...
Regards,
Ted
--- Original Message ---
From: "Daniel Aller" <daller1@zoominternet.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic interfierence
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Daniel Aller"
<daller1@zoominternet.net>
>
>Hello Kert Martenson:
>I have a Classic IV. My compass is out 50 degrees.
How did you demagnetize
>your tubes ? Did you do the ones near the compass or
the entire air
>plane.Was it necessary to disconnect strobes or
avionics?
>
>Dan Aller
>Classic IV
>N239DA
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic interfierence
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko"
<vicwj@earthlink.net>
>>
>> That demagnetizer sure looks a lot like the one we
used (many years ago)
>to
>> demagnetize the old 7" reel to reel audio
tapes. It would also work on
>> video tapes!
>>
>> Vic
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic interfierence
>>
>>
>> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
>> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>> >
>> > This looks like a good one. Maybe your EAA
chapter
>> > could buy one for everyone. You don't need it
often
>> > and the cost could be spread out to all the
users?
>> >
>> > Kurt S.
>> >
>> > Do not archive
>> >
>> > --- Kirk Martenson <kirk@mninter.net> wrote:
>> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kirk
Martenson"
>> > > <kirk@mninter.net>
>> > >
>> > > Hello Graeme:
>> > >
>> > > I had the same problem, so I used a
demagnetizer
>> > > that I bought from MSC
>> > > industrial supply company. It worked great.
Now I
>> > > have my compass mounted
>> > > on my windshield, and have been able to adjust
it
>> > > properly.
>> > >
>> > > Good Luck,
>> > >
>> > > Kirk Martenson
>> > > Classic IV
>> > >
>> > > Here is the link:
>> > >
>> >
>>
>http://www.mscdirect.com/IWCatProductPage.process?
Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=2010009&pcount=15&Product_Id174430&Keyword=Y
>> >
>> >
>> > __________________________________
>> > http://messenger.yahoo.com/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cell phone use in the air |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Steve Zakreski wrote:
> ... "cellular" is designed and intended to be "line of sight" since you are
> assumed to be on the ground ...
Thanks for sharing, Steve. Good to know. I'll share it with the members of my
aero club.
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Polycarbonate Header Tank sealant |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Brookes" <pdbrookes@blueyonder.co.uk>
Hi,
I recently added the rear-mounted header tank in my Kitfox II to overcome some
fuel flow problems and add the low fuel warning sensor. It works a treat, but
I am getting fuel seepage between the brass fittings and the polycarbonate tank.
I used a wrench when tightening the fittings, but I guess it moved somehow.
Does anyone one know the best method to seal this join?
Thanks
Pete.
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| Subject: | Polycarbonate Header Tank sealant |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Take it out, dry the fitting and hole. Use any of the fuel designated
sealants. I believe I purchased a life time can of tight seal. ACS has
several to choose from. Don't over tighten the fitting as I am sure you
already knew that. Good luck.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Peter
Brookes
Subject: Kitfox-List: Polycarbonate Header Tank sealant
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Brookes"
<pdbrookes@blueyonder.co.uk>
Hi,
I recently added the rear-mounted header tank in my Kitfox II to overcome
some fuel flow problems and add the low fuel warning sensor. It works a
treat, but I am getting fuel seepage between the brass fittings and the
polycarbonate tank. I used a wrench when tightening the fittings, but I
guess it moved somehow.
Does anyone one know the best method to seal this join?
Thanks
Pete.
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| Subject: | Re: Master solenoid |
Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:00:25 -0700
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
One final comment, I used a 40 amp fuse in line to the master switch. It is behind
the panel in an obscure location. My thinking was I can pull the fuse if I
leave it tied down some where.
Dee Young
Model II N345DY
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Daughenbaugh<mailto:rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:36 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Master solenoid
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com<mailto:rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>>
Thanks Jim and Ted.
It is installed correctly according to labels on it. It is a three contact
solenoid, so it wouldn't work at all if not correctly installed.
Don's and Dee's approach is tempting. Especially now that I know that they
can fail!
At any rate, I have a new one coming from Aircraft Spruce. Then we will
see.
Randy - on to find the next problem.....
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jimshumaker
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Master solenoid
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net<mailto:jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>>
Randy
Sounds like the solenoid might be connected backwards....that is if it has a
suppresion diode/resister network internal to the contact the diode would
allow bleed through if connected reversed.
Is the solenoid warm even when it has been off?
Otherwise there is another circuit tied to the battery ahead of the Master.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com<mailto:rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>>
To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Master solenoid
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com<mailto:rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>>
>
>
> My master solenoid leaks! When it is "off" it shows about 12.8 volts on
the
> side that should be zero! It won't carry much current and the voltage
drops
> off if any load is put on it, but it still is enough to drain the battery
> over a few days or week. (which seems to mean that I have some other
draw,
> or short, that I shouldn't have!) When the solenoid is "on" all works as
it
> is supposed to if the battery is up.
>
> Should I be hunting a new master solenoid? Or is there something else I
am
> missing?
>
> Thanks,
> Randy - Engine not started yet....
>
> .
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shane Sather
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Toolkits
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Shane Sather" <jeffery@polarnet.ca<mailto:jeffery@polarnet.ca>>
>
> For us nordiners we have to take snowshoe in the winter months
>
> Shane
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com<mailto:smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Toolkits
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com<mailto:smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>>
> >
> > --- kyle Ponsford <wild_kyle@hotmail.com<mailto:wild_kyle@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > > ........
> > > after the question I just went through the FAR 91
> > > and cant find the required list, FAR 91.513 lists
> > > emergency equipment but it is for "Large and Turbin
> > > powered mutiengine airplanes."
> > > Im still looking...
> > > Kyle
> >
> > I think Canada has a "required list". Any of you
> > "nordiners" know a reference for it?
> >
> > Kurt S.
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > http://messenger.yahoo.com/<http://messenger.yahoo.com/>
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Magnetic interfierence |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kirk Martenson" <kirk@mninter.net>
Dan:
I took the demagnetizer and held it about 1/4" away from the front cross
tube and the "V" on the inside of the aircraft. I also demagnetized the over
head cross tubes in the cockpit. I did not do the whole airframe.
I held the demagnetizer away by using my fingers, turned on the switch, and
I passed the thing around about 3 times. I then tried the compass. I can't
remember if I had to repeat this or not. I think if you repeat too many
times, the magnetism will return.
I did not take out any avionics or lights, but I did not have a GPS at the
time. I would remove that if you have one.
Also, take off your watch when you do this. I was told it will mess up a
watch pretty good.
Good Luck,
Kirk Martenson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Aller" <daller1@zoominternet.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic interfierence
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Daniel Aller"
<daller1@zoominternet.net>
>
> Hello Kert Martenson:
> I have a Classic IV. My compass is out 50 degrees. How did you demagnetize
> your tubes ? Did you do the ones near the compass or the entire air
> plane.Was it necessary to disconnect strobes or avionics?
>
> Dan Aller
> Classic IV
> N239DA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic interfierence
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
> >
> > That demagnetizer sure looks a lot like the one we used (many years ago)
> to
> > demagnetize the old 7" reel to reel audio tapes. It would also work
on
> > video tapes!
> >
> > Vic
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic interfierence
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > This looks like a good one. Maybe your EAA chapter
> > > could buy one for everyone. You don't need it often
> > > and the cost could be spread out to all the users?
> > >
> > > Kurt S.
> > >
> > > Do not archive
> > >
> > > --- Kirk Martenson <kirk@mninter.net> wrote:
> > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kirk Martenson"
> > > > <kirk@mninter.net>
> > > >
> > > > Hello Graeme:
> > > >
> > > > I had the same problem, so I used a demagnetizer
> > > > that I bought from MSC
> > > > industrial supply company. It worked great. Now I
> > > > have my compass mounted
> > > > on my windshield, and have been able to adjust it
> > > > properly.
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck,
> > > >
> > > > Kirk Martenson
> > > > Classic IV
> > > >
> > > > Here is the link:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.mscdirect.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=2010009&pcount=15&Product_Id=174430&Keyword=Y
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________
> > > http://messenger.yahoo.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Magnetic interference |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy" <fultz@trip.net>
By all means, please do keep us posted as to your results. If it works I'll
be trying the idea too.
Andy
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
We will run with Kurts suggestion of using the AC welding current as this
appears to be an easy fix for us. Will keep you posted as to the results.
Cheers
Graeme
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| Subject: | Interesting Flying Day |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
I had an interesting flying day. I gave a demo ride to a prospective
Kitfox buyer named Tom McCaa from Philadelphia. He is looking to
purchase and build a Series 7 with a 912 ULS. While in the air, Chuck
Tippett flying his Model IV, called me on the radio to state he and his
son (flying a J3 Cub) were on their way to the nearby Flying Circus at
Bealton, VA. They were having a parachuite jump exercise at the flying
Circus grass strip. The two Kitfoxes and the J3 landed behind a twin
turbo Dehavelin Otter that was the jump plane. That is the largest
aircraft to land at that short grass strip with a big dip in the
middle. Amazing what the Otter can do with a bata prop. One of the
people making a jump from 13,000 feet was an 80 year old woman. Her
last jump was when she was a mear 70 years old. One classy lady.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
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| Subject: | Re: Polycarbonate Header Tank sealant |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
I would amplify Rick's solution, but might add that when plastic fittings of
most anykind leak, you can improve things by placing a hose clamp or better
yet a non-replaceable SS bar clamp if you have access to the tooling to do
so around the outside of the threaded hub. Doesn't look so cool, but helps.
Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Polycarbonate Header Tank sealant
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
>
> Take it out, dry the fitting and hole. Use any of the fuel designated
> sealants. I believe I purchased a life time can of tight seal. ACS has
> several to choose from. Don't over tighten the fitting as I am sure you
> already knew that. Good luck.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Peter
> Brookes
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Polycarbonate Header Tank sealant
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Brookes"
> <pdbrookes@blueyonder.co.uk>
>
> Hi,
>
> I recently added the rear-mounted header tank in my Kitfox II to overcome
> some fuel flow problems and add the low fuel warning sensor. It works a
> treat, but I am getting fuel seepage between the brass fittings and the
> polycarbonate tank. I used a wrench when tightening the fittings, but I
> guess it moved somehow.
>
> Does anyone one know the best method to seal this join?
>
> Thanks
>
> Pete.
>
>
> ---
>
>
---
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| Subject: | Prop angle setting |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Shane Sather" <jeffery@polarnet.ca>
-----Help
I am trying to determine the pitch of my Warp Drive prop. I have the Warp Drive
tool for setting the pitch.
I followed the instructions for setting pitch and I think I have it but am not
clear as to how I determine the exact setting. This is what I have done.
I placed the level at the prop hub to determine the angle of the plane and have
a setting of 12 degrees. I then placed this same protractor at the prop tip.
And this is where I get mixed up. I leveled the bubble and to do that I rotated
the wheel back and now have a number 1 on the other side of the 0 (all reading
are from the top scale) So Does this mean that my current pitch is 13 degrees.
And, if so to get a lower pitch would I want to reduce these degrees to perhaps
10 to get more power on take off.
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Shane
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List:Need Kitfox to fly |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Petergleason@aol.com
Hi All: I am looking for someone with a Kitfox in southern or mid state
Oregon to get five hours of in type time. I can't get any insurance until I get
the
time. I have a tail wheel sign off. Willing to pay any one e-mail me direct
Thanks Peter Gleason Phone 541 891-5492 e-mail petergleason@aol.com
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