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1. 03:46 AM - Re: vernier throttle ? (Victor Catalanotto)
2. 03:48 AM - Re: series 5 bubble doors (Fox5flyer)
3. 08:50 AM - Elevator Travel (George Wells)
4. 09:11 AM - Re: Elevator Travel (jdmcbean)
5. 09:45 AM - O-235 Battery (Tinne maha)
6. 09:47 AM - Re: vernier throttle ? (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
7. 12:06 PM - Re: O-235 Battery ()
8. 05:28 PM - microair transponder (Bruce Lina)
9. 06:13 PM - Re: series 5 bubble doors (VFT@aol.com)
10. 06:21 PM - Re: microair transponder (Mark Schindler)
11. 07:14 PM - Carb Balance 912S (Daniel Aller)
12. 08:20 PM - Loss of Engine power! (KITFOXPILOT@att.net)
13. 08:27 PM - Re: series 5 bubble doors (Andy)
14. 08:33 PM - Re: O-235 Battery (Clifford Begnaud)
15. 08:35 PM - Re: microair transponder (Andy)
16. 09:09 PM - Re: O-235 Battery (Andy)
17. 10:58 PM - Re: microair transponder (Allan Aaron)
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| Subject: | Re: vernier throttle ? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Victor Catalanotto" <Victor@bellanca.us>
BH
Thanks for the information.
Victor Catalanotto
Web Site www.bellanca.us
1996 Kitfox IV Classic N996LG
1972 BSV 17-30A
N8281R
KGPM
Mansfield, TX
Mobile 817-925-2532
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: vernier throttle ?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
>
> Hi Victor,
> Wire .078" diameter vernier is A-790.
> 10-32 threaded end is the A-750.
> bh
>
> > Does anyone have the part number for the Vernier throttle cable for the
912
> > UL on the Kitfox?
> >
> > Victor Catalanotto
> > 1996 Kitfox IV Classic N996LG
> > 1972 BSV 17-30A
> > N8281R
> > KGPM
> > Web Site www.bellanca.us
> > Mansfield, TX
> > Mobile 817-925-2532
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: series 5 bubble doors |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
I'd thought about that myself and seriously considered it, but was a bit
worried about what the solvents might do to the acrylic so I chose not to.
The tape is a light gray and the glass is lightly smoked and most people
don't even notice the tape is there.
Darrel
> I did mine with 3M tape only. About 300 hrs on them. If I do them again I
> will just use nutserts, maybe, it was just too easy with the tape. I do
> think i would paint the door glass around the edges to hide the tape.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Howard Firm
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: series 5 bubble doors
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
>
> I'm getting ready to put my bubble LP doors onto the square tubing frame
and
> was wondering about drilling and tapping the hole on one side rather than
> drilling through both walls and having the nut on the inside. Has anyone
> done this? I know that the tubing wall is not very thick....would there be
> enough thread to hold?
>
> Howard Firm
> 508 12th St. South
> Virginia MN 55792
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "George Wells" <georgewells@adelphia.net>
Doe's anyone know what the Elevator travel in degrees should be for full up
and down when it rests on the down stop. I can find up travel in the
builders manual but not down travel.
Thanks -- George
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
George,
What model.. The Series 5, 6 and 7 is 39( ( 1( up 20( ( 1( down.
Blue Skies
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of George Wells
Subject: Kitfox-List: Elevator Travel
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "George Wells" <georgewells@adelphia.net>
Doe's anyone know what the Elevator travel in degrees should be for full up
and down when it rests on the down stop. I can find up travel in the
builders manual but not down travel.
Thanks -- George
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tinne maha" <tinnemaha@hotmail.com>
Hello listers,
I am building a series 5 TD w/O-235 and would like to put in the lightest batterypossible
in the tail without having to add balast. My electrical requirements
will not be very significant so I can get by electricallywith a light battery
(11 AH min). I've been told that I cannot figure the Weight Balance before
I cover so I don't know how to deal with this issue. Can someone help here?
Can anyone here with the same configuration tell me how small your battery is?
Thanks,
Grant
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| Subject: | Re: vernier throttle ? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
the earlier models had a dual idler arm to actuate the throttles from input from
a single vernier throttle cable. I believe that when Skystar provided two output
cables from a single "knob" it was prohibitive to have dual vernier capability.
John
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jo and Larry" <xt1946@starband.net>
>
> We would like to replace the standard friction throttle with a vernier type.
> Any one using this type and how do you like it? Any suggestions on model to
> use?
> Model IV with a 80hp Rotax 912
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: O-235 Battery |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rex@awarenest.com>
I had done a little research into a light weight battery
and was leaning toward the Yuasa AGM type for motorcycles.
http://www.yuasabatteries.com/maintenance_free.asp
You may have to go to a dealer to get detailed specs.
Rex
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:45:08 -0700
"Tinne maha" <tinnemaha@hotmail.com> wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tinne maha"
><tinnemaha@hotmail.com>
>
>
>Hello listers,
>
>
>I am building a series 5 TD w/O-235 and would like to put
>in the lightest batterypossible in the tail without
>having to add balast. My electrical requirements will not
>be very significant so I can get by electricallywith a
>light battery (11 AH min). I've been told that I cannot
>figure the Weight Balance before I cover so I don't know
>how to deal with this issue. Can someone help here?
>
>
>Can anyone here with the same configuration tell me how
>small your battery is?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Grant
>
>
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Rex
South Park, Colorado
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| Subject: | microair transponder |
1.9 DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06 Date: is 3 to 6 hours after Received: date
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Lina" <airlina@usadatanet.net>
Anybody out there had success with a microair T 2000 transponder in their airplane.
I installed one in my Series 5 and can not get it to function consistently.
ATC reports that they get occassional hits on it but then it goes away.During
the troubleshooting process since first flight last August, I have 1) made
a 7 inch diameter aluminum ground plane 2) made sure the antenna is grounded to
the airframe 3) tried 2 different antenna locations 4) tried 2 different antennas
5) tried 2 different rg-58 coax cables 6) sent the unit back to Australia
to the manufacturer to be checked out. None of this has solved the problem.
I am beginning to think that this unit is junk and will never work satisfactorily
so if anyone has had success with one of these transponders, please let me
know. Thanks Bruce
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| Subject: | Re: series 5 bubble doors |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: VFT@aol.com
In a message dated 6/20/2004 12:30:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, fultz@trip.net
writes:
> Danny,
>
> What spacing did you use on the 6-32 screws? Thanks
>
> Andy
I don't remember exactly. Probably 6-8 inches. The 3M tape is what is really holding
them on. The screws are for security.
Danny Melnik
F1 #25
Melbourne (FL) Rocket Factory
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| Subject: | Re: microair transponder |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark Schindler <mtschindler@yahoo.com>
There were several people on the Avid Forum who had nothing but problems with the
transponder. I don't think they got a lot of support from the factory either.
Mark
Bruce Lina <airlina@usadatanet.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Lina"
Anybody out there had success with a microair T 2000 transponder in their airplane.
I installed one in my Series 5 and can not get it to function consistently.
ATC reports that they get occassional hits on it but then it goes away.During
the troubleshooting process since first flight last August, I have 1) made
a 7 inch diameter aluminum ground plane 2) made sure the antenna is grounded to
the airframe 3) tried 2 different antenna locations 4) tried 2 different antennas
5) tried 2 different rg-58 coax cables 6) sent the unit back to Australia
to the manufacturer to be checked out. None of this has solved the problem.
I am beginning to think that this unit is junk and will never work satisfactorily
so if anyone has had success with one of these transponders, please let me
know. Thanks Bruce
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | Carb Balance 912S |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Daniel Aller" <daller1@zoominternet.net>
I have a Classic IV with the dual friction throttle and no idle stops on a 912S
engine. Does anybody know how to balance the carbs with this setup so I can
stop bending my carb throttle valve levers when I pull it back to idle.
Thank you in advance for any information.
Dan Aller
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| Subject: | Loss of Engine power! |
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXPILOT@att.net
Flew 2BH my Model IV 1200 with a 912S on it's first flight as the second new owner
this morning. At about 350"AGL, engine started to run rough, lost power.
I had my friend and CFI with me at the controls. We made one Hell of a landing,
with just minor wing tip damage to left wing tip (minor). Note, brand new
912S, brand new gascalotor! well, preplexed at this time, will start to resolve
the problem this week. Just thought the list might want to know. OH, engine
stopped on landing. Coasted to a stop.
Ray Gignac
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Flew 2BH my Model IV 1200 with a 912S on it's first flight as the second new owner
this morning. At about 350"AGL,engine started to run rough, lost power. I
had my friend and CFI with me at the controls. We made one Hell of a landing,
with just minor wing tip damage to left wing tip (minor). Note, brand new 912S,
brand new gascalotor! well, preplexed at this time, will start to resolve the
problem this week. Just thought the list might want to know. OH, engine stopped
on landing. Coasted to a stop.
Ray Gignac
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| Subject: | series 5 bubble doors |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy" <fultz@trip.net>
So you fly with the doors open? No problems with them coming loose?
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of VFT@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: series 5 bubble doors
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: VFT@aol.com
In a message dated 6/20/2004 12:30:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
fultz@trip.net writes:
> Danny,
>
> What spacing did you use on the 6-32 screws? Thanks
>
> Andy
I don't remember exactly. Probably 6-8 inches. The 3M tape is what is really
holding them on. The screws are for security.
Danny Melnik
F1 #25
Melbourne (FL) Rocket Factory
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| Subject: | Re: O-235 Battery |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Grant,
This is the battery in our kitfox with Lycoming 0-235.
(http://www.batterymart.com/battery.mv?p=ODY-PC680)
This battery is nothing short of amazing. It is mounted in the tail and
will crank the engine tirelessly, not that it really needs to. ;-)
With a light electrical load you may indeed be able to get by with a smaller
battery. Batteries Plus has some AGM batteries that are about 9-10 lbs and
have 12 ah capacity. The key to good cranking power is to have the proper
sized cable run back there to the battery. If you do, then a 12 ah battery
would probably work. Also, if you are using the poly fiber process and
especially if you have the airfoiled tail surfaces, then the lighter battery
should work fine for the CG. Worst case would be that you could bolt some
lead to the towing mount hole near the aft end of the plane when flying
solo. For any other loads, just pull it off.
Also, if you want to assure that your engine will start, no matter what, be
sure to use a primer and install one Lightspeed Engineering electronic
ignition, http://www.lightspeedengineering.com, along with one magneto .
Better yet, use an Ellison throttle body carb with the LSE,
http://www.ellison-fluid-systems.com/. On our kitfox, we have two LSE
ignitions (no mags, hurray) and an Ellison carb. We can park the plane out
on a cold night (20 deg F) and the next morning we can "hand prop" it with
ONE flip of the prop. And that is with NO preheating!! Simply amazing!
This combination gives us a cruise speed of 130 mph at 2600 rpm, burning
5.25 gph. (we could go faster with a cruise prop)
Please note that if you use two LSE ignitions, you should install a small 5
ah AGM battery as a backup, we did and this combination works great.
BTW, the prop is an Aymar Demuth.
Best Regards,
Cliff
ps, Let me know if you want more info on this setup
>
>
> Hello listers,
>
>
> I am building a series 5 TD w/O-235 and would like to put in the lightest
batterypossible in the tail without having to add balast. My electrical
requirements will not be very significant so I can get by electricallywith a
light battery (11 AH min). I've been told that I cannot figure the Weight
Balance before I cover so I don't know how to deal with this issue. Can
someone help here?
>
>
> Can anyone here with the same configuration tell me how small your battery
is?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Grant
>
>
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| Subject: | microair transponder |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy" <fultz@trip.net>
Bruce,
I just sent an inquiry to MicroAir about their transponders. That
exchange is quoted below.
Andy
_______________________________
MicroAir Avionics Web Site - Form
An enquiry for you has been received through the Microair WebSite
*****************************************************************
Name : Andy Fultz
Address : 1030 Fultz Road Starkville, Ms 39759
Country : USA
Email Address : fultz@trip.net
Phone Number :
Fax Number :
*****************************************************************
Comments : I have been considering your T2000SFL transponder for my project
and am very near a purchase. I do have concerns though, for I have had
several users of your product recommend that I not purchase a Microair
transponder. They have cited issues such as power switch problems, software
problems, quality control problems and a lack of response from the factory.
I would certainly like to hear from you on these issues before I make a
final decision. I can't afford to spend money on something that may or may
not function properly. Please let me hear your side of the story. Thanks in
advance. Andy
*****************************************************************
Enquiry Submitted : Sunday, June 06, 2004
And here's their response
Hi Andy,
What you have heard may have some element of truth to it.
Our transponder did have some teething problems but our latest version 5
upgrade has overcome those.
It is the bit about, "lack of response" from the factory that bothers me.
If we have a known problem we get the transponders returned and they are
upgraded or replace accordingly at no cost to the customer. We also have 2
x technicians to help either on-line or by phone when required.
We also have "Out of Warranty Service Centers" in the USA, all warranty
issues are dealt with in Australia where we can monitor everything.
If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Regards,
Carol Bretag-Gillard
Sales & Marketing
Microair Avionics Pty Ltd
Ph: + 61 7 4155 3048
Fax: + 61 7 4155 3049
Email: carol@microair.com.au
Web: www.microair.com.au
----- Original Message -----
From: MicroAir Web Enquiry
Subject: MicroAir Dealer from Andy Fultz
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy" <fultz@trip.net>
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clifford
Begnaud
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: O-235 Battery
FWIW, Aircraft Spruce is actually a few dollars cheaper than Battery Mart on
the HAWKER Odyssey PC680.
Andy
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
<shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Grant,
This is the battery in our kitfox with Lycoming 0-235.
(http://www.batterymart.com/battery.mv?p=ODY-PC680)
This battery is nothing short of amazing.
>
> I am building a series 5 TD w/O-235 and would like to put in the lightest
batterypossible in the tail without having to add balast. My electrical
requirements will not be very significant so I can get by electricallywith a
light battery (11 AH min). I've been told that I cannot figure the Weight
Balance before I cover so I don't know how to deal with this issue. Can
someone help here?
>
>
> Can anyone here with the same configuration tell me how small your battery
is?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Grant
>
>
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| Subject: | microair transponder |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au>
That exchange sums up my experience with my transponder. I had one early problem
which the factory fixed at their cost when notified. I'm happy with mine.
Allan
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy [mailto:fultz@trip.net]
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: microair transponder
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Andy" <fultz@trip.net>
Bruce,
I just sent an inquiry to MicroAir about their transponders. That
exchange is quoted below.
Andy
_______________________________
MicroAir Avionics Web Site - Form
An enquiry for you has been received through the Microair WebSite
*****************************************************************
Name : Andy Fultz
Address : 1030 Fultz Road Starkville, Ms 39759
Country : USA
Email Address : fultz@trip.net
Phone Number :
Fax Number :
*****************************************************************
Comments : I have been considering your T2000SFL transponder for my project
and am very near a purchase. I do have concerns though, for I have had
several users of your product recommend that I not purchase a Microair
transponder. They have cited issues such as power switch problems, software
problems, quality control problems and a lack of response from the factory.
I would certainly like to hear from you on these issues before I make a
final decision. I can't afford to spend money on something that may or may
not function properly. Please let me hear your side of the story. Thanks in
advance. Andy
*****************************************************************
Enquiry Submitted : Sunday, June 06, 2004
And here's their response
Hi Andy,
What you have heard may have some element of truth to it.
Our transponder did have some teething problems but our latest version 5
upgrade has overcome those.
It is the bit about, "lack of response" from the factory that bothers me.
If we have a known problem we get the transponders returned and they are
upgraded or replace accordingly at no cost to the customer. We also have 2
x technicians to help either on-line or by phone when required.
We also have "Out of Warranty Service Centers" in the USA, all warranty
issues are dealt with in Australia where we can monitor everything.
If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Regards,
Carol Bretag-Gillard
Sales & Marketing
Microair Avionics Pty Ltd
Ph: + 61 7 4155 3048
Fax: + 61 7 4155 3049
Email: carol@microair.com.au
Web: www.microair.com.au
----- Original Message -----
From: MicroAir Web Enquiry
Subject: MicroAir Dealer from Andy Fultz
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