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1. 09:08 AM - Re: flat batteries (kurt schrader)
2. 09:42 AM - Re: Spinner (jdmcbean)
3. 10:43 AM - Re: flat batteries (Aerobatics@aol.com)
4. 11:19 AM - Re: Spinner (Ted Palamarek)
5. 12:24 PM - Re: Spinner (Don Pearsall)
6. 02:15 PM - WarpDrive propeller (Michel Verheughe)
7. 03:40 PM - Re: WarpDrive propeller (Rick)
8. 03:47 PM - Re: flat batteries ()
9. 04:07 PM - Re: WarpDrive propeller (Mark Schindler)
10. 04:17 PM - Re: flat batteries ()
11. 04:30 PM - Re: WarpDrive propeller (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
12. 05:58 PM - Re: WarpDrive propeller (Mark Schindler)
13. 07:05 PM - High EGT's (582) (jareds)
14. 07:42 PM - Re: High EGT's (582) (Jerry Liles)
15. 08:16 PM - Re: High EGT's (582) (Aerobatics@aol.com)
16. 08:36 PM - Re: High EGT's (582) (jareds)
17. 08:40 PM - Re: WarpDrive propeller (Steve Cooper)
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Subject: | Re: flat batteries |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
John,
Didn't see any replys to this??? But I was gone too.
First you should hook up a good meter and then see
what it reads with the alternator off, then on. Do
this to check your on-board meter to see if you
actually have a problem, or just a low meter reading.
Other than reading low volts, was there another
problem? I think I missed something. Why do you want
to charge it more slowly?
Kurt S.
--- kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote:
>
> I am trying a new approach with RG battery--loading
> up the system with strobes and nav lights whenever
> the engine is running, thinking that using some of
> the current from the alternator, less impact will be
> experienced by the battery. What say you list
> members?
>
> On the initial flight the volt/ammeter was
> indicating more in the 12+V range than the normal
> 13.8V.
>
> John
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Is anyone having an issue with getting 2 emails per post ?? Never had the
problem before and then.......
Also, what was Joel trying to say ??
Blue Skies
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Joel Mapes
Subject: Kitfox-List: Spinner
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Joel Mapes" <Joel.Mapes@roxio.com>
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Subject: | Re: flat batteries |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com
Interesting, I have the same problem, seems the alt is not powerful enough,
and it seems higher at lower rpm?
I have concidered buying an add on alternator I saw somewhere for the 582?
I have a 2003 582 with a "E" box ...
Dave
KF 2
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
John
Everything is fine here. Unfortunately I have already
deleted Joels msg so can't remember what it was that he was
inquiring about
Ted
Edmonton
DO NOT ARCHIVE
<<<<SNIP>>>>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean"
<jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Is anyone having an issue with getting 2 emails per post ??
Never had the
problem before and then.......
Also, what was Joel trying to say ??
Blue Skies
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
I got a call from Joel, asking about what do about getting a spinner to fit
his engine/prop/cowl combo. He has a KF with flat cowling, a 912, and a GTS
GMA (in cockpit adjustable) prop. In order to streamline his cowl, He needs
to use an 11" spinner. He has a composite 11" spinner, but the cut outs will
not fit that wide prop, and the mfgr says not to enlarge the cutouts.
I advised him to just buy a blank aluminum spinner and make the cutouts
himself. But I also said he should post the same question here to see what
others have done for a spinner with that prop. Anyone encounter the same
situation?
I don't know why his message came out to be unreadable. It looks like he
posted in some format that majordomo could not handle.
Don Pearsall
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Subject: | WarpDrive propeller |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Hello listers,
Next winter I plan to install a Jabiru 2200 on my model 3. I'll need a new prop
too. I see on the Norwegian microlight site that someone is selling a 65"
tapered tip WarpDrive prop with Jabiru hub. The price is cheap, about US$ 450.
Is it something I should buy? I read on the internet that a lot of WarpDrive
props have lost a blade in flight. What would you advice me to do?
Thanks in advance,
Michel
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Subject: | WarpDrive propeller |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
First check and see what warp recommends for the HP/RPM your engine will put
out. Second, see what your ground clearance issues are if any. Is it a two
or three blade, does it have the nickel leading edge, is it new. Lots to
consider.
Rick N656T
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Subject: Kitfox-List: WarpDrive propeller
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Hello listers,
Next winter I plan to install a Jabiru 2200 on my model 3. I'll need a new
prop
too. I see on the Norwegian microlight site that someone is selling a 65"
tapered tip WarpDrive prop with Jabiru hub. The price is cheap, about US$
450.
Is it something I should buy? I read on the internet that a lot of WarpDrive
props have lost a blade in flight. What would you advice me to do?
Thanks in advance,
Michel
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Subject: | Re: flat batteries |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rex@awarenest.com>
I'm no expert, but slower charging is more gentle on
batteries from all I've read about it. John's method of
taking away some of the amps generated seems a workable
solution at first glance. However, I've found that often
things aren't as easy as that, so asking advice from more
experienced folks is a good idea.
There may be a charge controlling device that could be
adapted to our aircraft to provide the optimum rate of
charge. I know that such "smart" devices are available for
charging batteries from an AC outlet. If none exist for
enhancing mobile charging systems such in vehicles.
Perhaps a "techie" could convert one from components in a
home charger?
Check this site:
http://www.battery-sentinel.com
Rex
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 09:07:17 -0700 (PDT)
kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
><smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
>John,
>
>Didn't see any replys to this??? But I was gone too.
>
>First you should hook up a good meter and then see
>what it reads with the alternator off, then on. Do
>this to check your on-board meter to see if you
>actually have a problem, or just a low meter reading.
>
>Other than reading low volts, was there another
>problem? I think I missed something. Why do you want
>to charge it more slowly?
>
>Kurt S.
>
>--- kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>> I am trying a new approach with RG battery--loading
>> up the system with strobes and nav lights whenever
>> the engine is running, thinking that using some of
>> the current from the alternator, less impact will be
>> experienced by the battery. What say you list
>> members?
>>
>> On the initial flight the volt/ammeter was
>> indicating more in the 12+V range than the normal
>> 13.8V.
>>
>> John
>
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Subject: | Re: WarpDrive propeller |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark Schindler <mtschindler@yahoo.com>
Michel
I've got an Avid MK-IV with Jabiru 2200. Before you buy warp drive which has harmonics
problem with direct drive from Jabiru - check with Sensenich Propeller
in Florida.
Talk to Don he is very helpful and I think for $200 more you can get Sensenich
prop in excellent quality that will work perfect on your Jabiru.
I'm upgrading my Avid to a Avid Plus - wider, longer and a lot of other improvements
but will use Sensenich Prop.
Check out my site www.avidflyeraircraft.com to see what I'm doing.
Mark
Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe
Hello listers,
Next winter I plan to install a Jabiru 2200 on my model 3. I'll need a new prop
too. I see on the Norwegian microlight site that someone is selling a 65"
tapered tip WarpDrive prop with Jabiru hub. The price is cheap, about US$ 450.
Is it something I should buy? I read on the internet that a lot of WarpDrive
props have lost a blade in flight. What would you advice me to do?
Thanks in advance,
Michel
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Subject: | Re: flat batteries |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rex@awarenest.com>
A little more searching resulted in these links:
www.pulsetech.com
www.battery-rechargeable-charger.com
Rex
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Subject: | Re: WarpDrive propeller |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 6/27/04 2:16:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, michel@online.no
writes:
> too. I see on the Norwegian microlight site that someone is selling a 65"
> tapered tip WarpDrive prop with Jabiru hub. The price is cheap, about US$
> 450.
> Is it something I should buy? I read on the internet that a lot of WarpDrive
> props have lost a blade in flight. What would you advice me to do?
>
> Thanks in advance
Michel,
I can't advise on the proper Warp prop that you might need...However, I
don't recall hearing that Warp prop's lost blades...I think I heard of IVO
prop's loosing blades. This goes way back to the PROP WAR's we had on the list.
Can't remember for sure who was loosing blades???
I went from the GSC wooden prop to the Warp and picked up a little
performance. I'm pretty happy with the Warp.
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Subject: | Re: WarpDrive propeller |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark Schindler <mtschindler@yahoo.com>
Warp is a nice prop but not on Jabiru engine.
Just my $.02
Mark
AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 6/27/04 2:16:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, michel@online.no
writes:
> too. I see on the Norwegian microlight site that someone is selling a 65"
> tapered tip WarpDrive prop with Jabiru hub. The price is cheap, about US$
> 450.
> Is it something I should buy? I read on the internet that a lot of WarpDrive
> props have lost a blade in flight. What would you advice me to do?
>
> Thanks in advance
Michel,
I can't advise on the proper Warp prop that you might need...However, I
don't recall hearing that Warp prop's lost blades...I think I heard of IVO
prop's loosing blades. This goes way back to the PROP WAR's we had on the list.
Can't remember for sure who was loosing blades???
I went from the GSC wooden prop to the Warp and picked up a little
performance. I'm pretty happy with the Warp.
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Subject: | High EGT's (582) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
Swapped EGT sensors in the exhaust boss today and I am still getting a
high EGT reading on the front cylinder on a 582 engine with only 60hrs.
RPM EGT Front EGT Rear
5760 1184 1117
6180 1155 1097
Any ideas?
Jared
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Subject: | Re: High EGT's (582) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
Well, It's not terrible. Sounds like the carbs need a bit of balancing,
In other words the carburator slide is opening a bit wider on one than
the other so one cylinder is running a hair richer than the other.
Should be fixable with a simple adjustment of the cables to the carbs to
equalize the openings.
Jerry Liles
jareds wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
>
>Swapped EGT sensors in the exhaust boss today and I am still getting a
>high EGT reading on the front cylinder on a 582 engine with only 60hrs.
>RPM EGT Front EGT Rear
>5760 1184 1117
>6180 1155 1097
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Jared
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: High EGT's (582) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com
wow sound close to me!! and not too hot...
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Subject: | Re: High EGT's (582) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
I did a third balance on them and they are identical.
Opening the slide on the hot one a bit more though should get things a
bit more even but what will keep the temps lower? Or are they close to
typical?
Jerry Liles wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
>
>Well, It's not terrible. Sounds like the carbs need a bit of balancing,
>In other words the carburator slide is opening a bit wider on one than
>the other so one cylinder is running a hair richer than the other.
>Should be fixable with a simple adjustment of the cables to the carbs to
>equalize the openings.
>
>Jerry Liles
>
>jareds wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
>>
>>Swapped EGT sensors in the exhaust boss today and I am still getting a
>>high EGT reading on the front cylinder on a 582 engine with only 60hrs.
>>RPM EGT Front EGT Rear
>>5760 1184 1117
>>6180 1155 1097
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>Jared
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: WarpDrive propeller |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
And why would that be? Do you have ANY first hand knowledge of Warp on a
Jabiru?
Steve Cooper
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Schindler" <mtschindler@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: WarpDrive propeller
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark Schindler <mtschindler@yahoo.com>
>
> Warp is a nice prop but not on Jabiru engine.
> Just my $.02
> Mark
>
> AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 6/27/04 2:16:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
michel@online.no
> writes:
>
>
> > too. I see on the Norwegian microlight site that someone is selling a
65"
> > tapered tip WarpDrive prop with Jabiru hub. The price is cheap, about
US$
> > 450.
> > Is it something I should buy? I read on the internet that a lot of
WarpDrive
> > props have lost a blade in flight. What would you advice me to do?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
>
> Michel,
> I can't advise on the proper Warp prop that you might need...However, I
> don't recall hearing that Warp prop's lost blades...I think I heard of IVO
> prop's loosing blades. This goes way back to the PROP WAR's we had on the
list.
> Can't remember for sure who was loosing blades???
> I went from the GSC wooden prop to the Warp and picked up a little
> performance. I'm pretty happy with the Warp.
>
> Don Smythe
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
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