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1. 02:44 AM - SV: Flaperon control reversal (Michel Verheughe)
2. 04:23 AM - Anyone have a motor mount for sale..KF IV..Rotax 912S (kitfoxjunky)
3. 07:27 AM - Rotax trade in program for 2 cycle engines (Mdkitfox@aol.com)
4. 07:07 PM - Re: SV: Flaperon control reversal (Jerry Liles)
5. 11:48 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Flaperon control reversal |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Jerry Liles [wliles@bayou.com]
> Roll restriction can occur if the flapperons are deployed to the extent
> that lateral motion of the stick is reduced.
Thanks Jerry. Hum, wonder where I got it that the roll could be inverted if exceeding
23 degrees. Not that I can understand the physic of it, though, but I accepted
it.
In any case, my flaps are limited to 10 degrees, just like yours, Jerry. It's enough
to do what I use it to: pitch control.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Anyone have a motor mount for sale..KF IV..Rotax 912S |
07:19:53 AM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxjunky" <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Thought I would check on the list before I order a new one from SkyStar.
Gary Walsh
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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| Subject: | Rotax trade in program for 2 cycle engines |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mdkitfox@aol.com
Folks,
I just saw this in the latest Propwash and thought it may be of some interest
to those with 2 stroke engines. If you're not interested, just hit delete.
Rick Weiss
Rotax Upgrades Engine Trade-in Program
Following up on an innovative trade-in program for Rotax two-stroke engine
program, a new and far more aggressive version of that effort has just been
announced. Engines traded in under this program will not be rebuilt, reused, or
put back into service. Their serial numbers will be taken out of service as
aircraft engines. Rotax hopes that the result will deplete the sport aviation
market of old, tired, and worn-out "rebuilt" or "overhauled" engines.
Rotax sourcres note that with the new sport aircraft category coming, that
"With fresh engines on board it is our belief that recertified Light Sport
Aircraft will be easy to transition and convey to any DAR inspecting them a feeling
of confidence in the suitability of such an aircraft for the experimental
light sport rating."
Exchange program for type 532,582 and 618 engines
Scope: To stimulate the market and assist the upcoming Sport Aircraft
transitions a special offer will being on July 1, 2004. A type 582 DCDI engine,
complete, with the carburetion and fuel pump, the exhaust, will be offered as
replacement for exchange to all owners of the aircraft engine version type 532,
582
or 618. This will be regardless of age of the original engine or
registration, as long as the serial number is found within the current database.
Check
with an Authorized Rotax Service Center to see if your serial number applies. No
snowmobile serial numbers will be accepted for this exchange.
To qualify
The owner must ship, at his expense, all the required parts to the Service
Center to remove this engine from service. The retention of any of the parts is
not allowed.
The parts to be returned are:
The engine assembly, crankcase, cylinders and heads with ignition attached.
The exhaust system complete
The carburetors, fuel pump
The recoil starter.
(In the event the engine has only a magneto end electric start, the new
engine will have the recoil removed for installation of the electric starter).
The
new type 582 engine must be registered at the time of sale by the Service
Center for warranty to begin immediately, no deferral of start times.
For engine types 532 trade in: The owner will pay $3838.00 USD to the Service
Center, plus any shipping and handling of the new engine.
Suggested retail = $4638. Trade in sale price = $3838
Effective date: July 1, 2004
Termination date: October 30, 2004
Exchange program for type 377 and 477 engines
Scope: To stimulate the market and assist the upcoming Sport Aircraft
transitions a special offer has been developed. A type 447 SCDI engine, complete,
with the carburetion and fuel pump, the exhaust, will be offered as replacement
for exchange to all owners of the aircraft engine version type 377 or 477. This
will be regardless of age of the original engine or registration, as long as
the serial number is found within the current database. No snowmobile serial
numbers will be accepted for this exchange. Check with an Authorized Rotax
Service Center to see if your serial number applies.
To qualify
The owner must ship, at his expense, all the required parts to the Service
Center to remove this engine from service. The retention of any of the parts is
not allowed.
The parts to be returned are:
The engine assembly, crankcase, cylinders and heads with ignition attached.
The exhaust system complete
The carburetors, fuel pump
The recoil starter.
(In the event the engine has only a magneto end electric start, the new
engine will have the recoil removed for installation of the electric starter)
The new type 477 engine must be registered at the time of sale by the Service
Center for warranty to begin immediately, no deferral of start times. The
owner will pay $1999.00 USD to the Service Center, plus any shipping and handling
of the new engine.
Suggested retail = $2465 Trade in sale price = 1999
Effective date: July 1, 2004
Termination date: October 30, 2004
Exchange program for type 503 engines
Scope: To stimulate the market and assist the upcoming Sport Aircraft
transitions a special offer has been developed. A type 503 SCDI engine, complete,
with the carburetion and fuel pump, the exhaust, will be offered as replacement
for exchange to all owners of the aircraft engine version type 503. This will
be regardless of age of the original engine or registration, as long as the
serial number is found within the current database. No snowmobile serial numbers
will be accepted for this exchange. Check with an Authorized Rotax Service
Center to see if your serial number applies.
To qualify
The owner must ship, at his expense, all the required parts to the Service
Center to remove this engine from service. The retention of any of the parts is
not allowed.
The parts to be returned are:
The engine assembly, crankcase, cylinders and heads with ignition attached.
The exhaust system complete
The carburetors, fuel pump
The recoil starter.
(In the event the engine has only a magneto end electric start, the new
engine will have the recoil removed for installation of the electric starter)
The new type 477 engine must be registered at the time of sale by the Service
Center for warranty to begin immediately, no deferral of start times. The
owner will pay $2500.00 USD to the Service Center, plus any shipping and handling
of the new engine.
Suggested retail = $3273.00 Trade in sale price = $2500.00
Effective date: July 1, 2004
Termination date: December 20, 2004
FMI: Please contact one of the following Authorized Kodiak Service Centers
California
California Power Systems: info@800-airwolf.com
Florida
Lockwood Aviation Supply: lockwood@digital.net
Mississippi
South Mississippi Light Aircraft: flysmla@datasync.com
Wisconsin
Leading Edge Air Foils: info@leadingedge-airfoils.com
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| Subject: | Re: Flaperon control reversal |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
Michael
If the flaps are deployed to 23 deg with the stick neutral, that is no
aileron input, then the side that moves down with aileron input will
exceed 23 deg, and, under the right conditions of speed, bank, etc it is
possible for it to stall and effectively result in roll reversal.
Basically the flapperon is an airfoil and an airfoil will stall if it
exceeds a certain angle of attack, frequently 15 deg. The location of
the flapperons beneath and just behind the wing delays the flapperon
stall to a much higher angle as it is in the downwash from the wing and
it behaves much like a slotted flap. That's why the ailerons are still
effective even when the main wing is stalled, however, the increase is
not infinte and it is possible to stall the flapperon. Just stick them
down too far, and get too slow, and turn a bit too steeply. Aileron
response with flaps deployed beyond 15 degs is pretty poor anyway so why
do it?
Jerry Liles
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>
>
>>From: Jerry Liles [wliles@bayou.com]
>>Roll restriction can occur if the flapperons are deployed to the extent
>>that lateral motion of the stick is reduced.
>>
>>
>
>Thanks Jerry. Hum, wonder where I got it that the roll could be inverted if exceeding
23 degrees. Not that I can understand the physic of it, though, but I
accepted it.
>In any case, my flaps are limited to 10 degrees, just like yours, Jerry. It's
enough to do what I use it to: pitch control.
>
>Cheers,
>Michel
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
DNA: do not archive
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