---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/13/04: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:44 AM - Re: Maule was Re: (Mark Schindler) 2. 04:46 AM - Thermostat controlled oil cooler for Jab 2200 (Mark Schindler) 3. 04:52 AM - Re: Maule was Re: (Glenn Horne) 4. 04:59 AM - Re: Maule was Re: (Glenn Horne) 5. 05:01 AM - Re: ASI (jareds) 6. 05:09 AM - EGT's Solved (jareds) 7. 09:00 AM - Re: EGT's Solved (Bruce Harrington) 8. 01:06 PM - Bruce and Don 582 EGT (Harris, Robert) 9. 02:38 PM - Jabiru (Mike Chaney) 10. 03:03 PM - kitfox near Kansas City MO () 11. 03:25 PM - Re: EGT's Solved (jareds) 12. 03:32 PM - Re: Bruce and Don 582 EGT (jareds) 13. 03:37 PM - Re: Jabiru (Dee Young) 14. 03:39 PM - Re: Jabiru (Rick) 15. 03:50 PM - Re: kitfox near Kansas City MO (Roger McConnell) 16. 04:29 PM - Re: EGT's Solved (AlbertaIV@aol.com) 17. 04:32 PM - Re: Bruce and Don 582 EGT (AlbertaIV@aol.com) 18. 05:14 PM - trying to find (Howard Firm) 19. 05:19 PM - Re: EGT's Solved (Bruce Harrington) 20. 05:21 PM - Re: Bruce and Don 582 EGT (Bruce Harrington) 21. 05:26 PM - Re: kitfox near Kansas City MO (Forfun3@aol.com) 22. 07:58 PM - Bad Fuel Lines! (KITFOXPILOT@att.net) 23. 09:36 PM - Re: kitfox near Kansas City MO (John Murphy) 24. 10:53 PM - Re: Maule was Re: (jimshumaker) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:09 AM PST US From: Mark Schindler Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark Schindler That's what I replaced my Maule with and also happy - works good and it's a lot less $$$. Mark jimshumaker wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" Glenn The homebuilders wheel in Aircraft spruce is soft rubber. It took out all that taxi vibration on asphalt. I am very happy with it as it does what I wanted it to and it is smaller and lighter and works well off field and never have to worry about patching it. Jim Shumaker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Horne" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" > > Jim, > I was just looking at that wheel, but couldn't > tell if it puma tic or a softer rubber. On my > Model II I have a solid (hard) rubber tail wheel. > Would like to change mine. How do you like yours? > Glenn Horne-Suffolk, Va > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jimshumaker > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" > > Aircraft Spruce 2003-2004 Page 217 P/N 06-03600. > > I changed bearings to fit the axle by puchasing from a local bearing house. > But then had to add oversize washers as safety stops. Could have done it > just as well by using a piece of steel tubing to shim the space between > bearing and axle. > > Jim Shumaker > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Burke" > To: > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke > > > > Jim, I would like to do the same. Can you give me some numbers for the > wheel > > and barring needed? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > James E. Burke > > (N94JE) > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Date: 07/11/04 01:54:08 > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" > > > > > Michel > > > > I changed my Maule hard wheel to an Aircraft Spruce sport builders wheel. > > Cost just $25 for the wheel and a few more dollars for the bearing and > > oversize washers. Very cheap and a much softer ride. It takes out that > > annoying pavement vibration. Works well off field also. > > > > Jim Shumaker > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michel Verheughe" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > > > > > > Lmar wrote: > > > > I found a great site for the Maule > > > > > > > > http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/Maule_Tailwheel.pdf > > > > > > Thanks Larry. This is a definitive "must keep." Incidentally, I am > > considering > > > changing my hard wheel for a pneumatic one. I fly mostly from asphalt > and > > the > > > hard wheel is ... a bit hard. Checking Aircraft Spruce, I see that these > > wheels > > > are not that expensive. Maybe a good Christmas gift, who knows! :-) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Michel > > > > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:16 AM PST US From: Mark Schindler Subject: Kitfox-List: Thermostat controlled oil cooler for Jab 2200 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark Schindler I've fitted a new oil cooler to my Jabiru 2200 - anyone interested please check out http://www.avidflyeraircraft.com/fatavid_engine.php Mark --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:52:26 AM PST US From: "Glenn Horne" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" Thanks Jim. I think I will get one for my Model II. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jimshumaker Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" Glenn The homebuilders wheel in Aircraft spruce is soft rubber. It took out all that taxi vibration on asphalt. I am very happy with it as it does what I wanted it to and it is smaller and lighter and works well off field and never have to worry about patching it. Jim Shumaker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Horne" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" > > Jim, > I was just looking at that wheel, but couldn't > tell if it puma tic or a softer rubber. On my > Model II I have a solid (hard) rubber tail wheel. > Would like to change mine. How do you like yours? > Glenn Horne-Suffolk, Va > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jimshumaker > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" > > Aircraft Spruce 2003-2004 Page 217 P/N 06-03600. > > I changed bearings to fit the axle by puchasing from a local bearing house. > But then had to add oversize washers as safety stops. Could have done it > just as well by using a piece of steel tubing to shim the space between > bearing and axle. > > Jim Shumaker > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Burke" > To: > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke > > > > Jim, I would like to do the same. Can you give me some numbers for the > wheel > > and barring needed? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > James E. Burke > > (N94JE) > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Date: 07/11/04 01:54:08 > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" > > > > > Michel > > > > I changed my Maule hard wheel to an Aircraft Spruce sport builders wheel. > > Cost just $25 for the wheel and a few more dollars for the bearing and > > oversize washers. Very cheap and a much softer ride. It takes out that > > annoying pavement vibration. Works well off field also. > > > > Jim Shumaker > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michel Verheughe" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > > > > > > Lmar wrote: > > > > I found a great site for the Maule > > > > > > > > http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/Maule_Tailwheel.pdf > > > > > > Thanks Larry. This is a definitive "must keep." Incidentally, I am > > considering > > > changing my hard wheel for a pneumatic one. I fly mostly from asphalt > and > > the > > > hard wheel is ... a bit hard. Checking Aircraft Spruce, I see that these > > wheels > > > are not that expensive. Maybe a good Christmas gift, who knows! :-) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Michel > > > > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:28 AM PST US From: "Glenn Horne" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" Jim, Got a bearing number for the axel. Don't take the wheel off. Maybe you have the box around that the bearing came in. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jimshumaker Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" Glenn The homebuilders wheel in Aircraft spruce is soft rubber. It took out all that taxi vibration on asphalt. I am very happy with it as it does what I wanted it to and it is smaller and lighter and works well off field and never have to worry about patching it. Jim Shumaker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Horne" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" > > Jim, > I was just looking at that wheel, but couldn't > tell if it puma tic or a softer rubber. On my > Model II I have a solid (hard) rubber tail wheel. > Would like to change mine. How do you like yours? > Glenn Horne-Suffolk, Va > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jimshumaker > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" > > Aircraft Spruce 2003-2004 Page 217 P/N 06-03600. > > I changed bearings to fit the axle by puchasing from a local bearing house. > But then had to add oversize washers as safety stops. Could have done it > just as well by using a piece of steel tubing to shim the space between > bearing and axle. > > Jim Shumaker > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Burke" > To: > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke > > > > Jim, I would like to do the same. Can you give me some numbers for the > wheel > > and barring needed? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > James E. Burke > > (N94JE) > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Date: 07/11/04 01:54:08 > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" > > > > > Michel > > > > I changed my Maule hard wheel to an Aircraft Spruce sport builders wheel. > > Cost just $25 for the wheel and a few more dollars for the bearing and > > oversize washers. Very cheap and a much softer ride. It takes out that > > annoying pavement vibration. Works well off field also. > > > > Jim Shumaker > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michel Verheughe" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > > > > > > Lmar wrote: > > > > I found a great site for the Maule > > > > > > > > http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/Maule_Tailwheel.pdf > > > > > > Thanks Larry. This is a definitive "must keep." Incidentally, I am > > considering > > > changing my hard wheel for a pneumatic one. I fly mostly from asphalt > and > > the > > > hard wheel is ... a bit hard. Checking Aircraft Spruce, I see that these > > wheels > > > are not that expensive. Maybe a good Christmas gift, who knows! :-) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Michel > > > > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:01:58 AM PST US From: jareds Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: ASI --> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds Thanks kurt, You summarized well. Having just fixed the pito line i doubt it's something on the ram air side and have somewhat forgotten about the static side since consensus lead me to vent it inside the cockpit. But it is likely something parked it's carcass there. I didnt see the suggestions about bug killer but have been spraying a little wasp killer in the wing tubes to keep them from finding their way in there. I've had some surprises this summer in flight and with my allergic reaction to them I'[d need to land in the hospital parking lot! haaa Thanks! kurt schrader wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > >Hi Jared, > >I think you got some good answers - plugged line with >water or bugs. You might try disconnecting the static >side from the ASI and flying the pattern to see how it >responds. If it is still lagging, the pitot side is >plugged. If it comes up to speed normally, the static >side is plugged. Be careful slowing down! You might >get too slow before it registers approaching stall >speed. > >If you have the altimeter and VSI hooked up to the >same static source, a plugged static source should >affect those too. If they are normal, I would suspect >the pitot side first. > >I like whoever came up with the idea of shooting a >little bug killer into the pitot tube at each annual. >Seems like a good idea. I wish Rain-X worked there >too! > >Kurt S. > >--- jareds wrote: > > >>During takeoff the ASI is slow to come alive. The >>days been hot and >>humid but it should still relate remotely close to >>speed. Unfortunately >>it seems like it lags 20MPH behind until finally >>stabilizing at pattern >>alt. Just fixed all the leaks to where applying a >>constant pressure then >>sealing pito will hold that indicated speed >>indefinate. >>Help me with what i'm missing???? >> >>Jared >> >> > > > >__________________________________ >http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:05 AM PST US From: jareds Subject: Kitfox-List: EGT's Solved 0.1 HTML_TITLE_EMPTY BODY: HTML title contains no text --> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds A few weeks ago I posted a 582 EGT problem. A difference in EGT's of nearly 85 and very high. As it turned out my carb was jetted with 160 mains so after putting the 165's spares and doing a correct syncronization of the carb slides and Verify clips on 3rd notch (moving slides to top of throttle body where the main jets are the only influence and feeling or eyeballing) then my EGTs evened out and came down into the 1000-1100 range. Thanks for all your good feedback! It turned out all logical once you helped me understand!! Jared kurt schrader wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > >Hi Jared, > >I think you got some good answers - plugged line with >water or bugs. You might try disconnecting the static >side from the ASI and flying the pattern to see how it >responds. If it is still lagging, the pitot side is >plugged. If it comes up to speed normally, the static >side is plugged. Be careful slowing down! You might >get too slow before it registers approaching stall >speed. > >If you have the altimeter and VSI hooked up to the >same static source, a plugged static source should >affect those too. If they are normal, I would suspect >the pitot side first. > >I like whoever came up with the idea of shooting a >little bug killer into the pitot tube at each annual. >Seems like a good idea. I wish Rain-X worked there >too! > >Kurt S. > >--- jareds wrote: > > >>During takeoff the ASI is slow to come alive. The >>days been hot and >>humid but it should still relate remotely close to >>speed. Unfortunately >>it seems like it lags 20MPH behind until finally >>stabilizing at pattern >>alt. Just fixed all the leaks to where applying a >>constant pressure then >>sealing pito will hold that indicated speed >>indefinate. >>Help me with what i'm missing???? >> >>Jared >> >> > > > >__________________________________ >http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:56 AM PST US From: "Bruce Harrington" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: EGT's Solved --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" Hi Jared, Unfortunately your fuel burn rate will now be higher! I always used 165s in cold weather, and 162s in warm. I also changed the needle jets, and had mixture control. bh > A few weeks ago I posted a 582 EGT problem. A difference in EGT's > of nearly 85 and very high. > As it turned out my carb was jetted with 160 mains so after putting the > 165's spares and doing a correct syncronization of the carb slides and > Verify clips on 3rd notch (moving slides to top of throttle body where > the main jets are the only influence and feeling or eyeballing) then my > EGTs evened out and came down into the 1000-1100 range. Thanks for all > your good feedback! It turned out all logical once you helped me > understand!! > > Jared ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:05 PM PST US From: "Harris, Robert" Subject: Kitfox-List: Bruce and Don 582 EGT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" Hi Bruce and Don, My front EGT 582 cylinder is 100 degrees hotter than the rear and it's synchronized. Do I fix this by moving the needle clip setting on the front carb and leave the rear. (I think they are both on they are both on the third right now.) Robert Harris KF2 -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Harrington Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: EGT's Solved --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" Hi Jared, Unfortunately your fuel burn rate will now be higher! I always used 165s in cold weather, and 162s in warm. I also changed the needle jets, and had mixture control. bh > A few weeks ago I posted a 582 EGT problem. A difference in EGT's > of nearly 85 and very high. > As it turned out my carb was jetted with 160 mains so after putting the > 165's spares and doing a correct syncronization of the carb slides and > Verify clips on 3rd notch (moving slides to top of throttle body where > the main jets are the only influence and feeling or eyeballing) then my > EGTs evened out and came down into the 1000-1100 range. Thanks for all > your good feedback! It turned out all logical once you helped me > understand!! > > Jared ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:38:19 PM PST US From: Mike Chaney Subject: Kitfox-List: Jabiru 1.9 DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06 Date": kitfox-list@matronics.com --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Chaney I'm just now catching up on the list activity after a few days out and noticed much discussion concerning the Jabiru and the Kitfox. I installed a Jabiru 2200 on my Model IV two years ago and have been happy with the performance. I had a 582 before the Jabiru and feel the Jabiru has increased performance. I now cruse in the low 90 MPG's. I maintained the round cowling which required the most work in the entire installation. I have some pictures posted on the Jabiru USA website. There are also other Kitfox pictures posted on this site also. I must say the the folks at Jabiru USA were wonderful to work with. Even when I experienced a problem a year after the sale they were still helpful and wanted to see me flying again. Mike Chaney ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:03:37 PM PST US From: Subject: Kitfox-List: kitfox near Kansas City MO --> Kitfox-List message posted by: I am building a Kitfox Clasic IV with a Suberu engine and was wandering if any one else in the Kansas City area( in the range of a rented Cessna 150) was also building a kitfox. I would like to look at some other projects or completed aircraft to get some Ideas . ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:25:55 PM PST US From: jareds Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: EGT's Solved --> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds Drattttt! I have been meaning to test fuel rates but haven't been able to do it scientifically yet. What do you think the approx burn will be now? 5 GPH??? or so?? Jared Bruce Harrington wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" > >Hi Jared, >Unfortunately your fuel burn rate will now be higher! >I always used 165s in cold weather, and 162s in warm. >I also changed the needle jets, and had mixture control. >bh > > > >> A few weeks ago I posted a 582 EGT problem. A difference in EGT's >>of nearly 85 and very high. >> As it turned out my carb was jetted with 160 mains so after putting the >>165's spares and doing a correct syncronization of the carb slides and >>Verify clips on 3rd notch (moving slides to top of throttle body where >>the main jets are the only influence and feeling or eyeballing) then my >>EGTs evened out and came down into the 1000-1100 range. Thanks for all >>your good feedback! It turned out all logical once you helped me >>understand!! >> >>Jared >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:32:28 PM PST US From: jareds Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Bruce and Don 582 EGT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds Robert, Last week i talked for nearly an hour and a half with a rotax guru and repairman from NC. He couldnt stress enough that the troubleshooting process consisted of finding the "differences" between the carbs including the clips (3rd notch) and proper syncronization as i mentioned in my email earlier this week. He also said that he has seen MANY guages with the exception of the "EIS" with that much difference. He also mentioned checking the seat where your main jet screws into is evenly seated. And outside of verifying the jetting and clip setting and sync the only next likely culprit is always the carb bowl float levels. THats' pretty much the list he gave me and fortunately 2/3 through the list i nailed the issue! Good luck.........i'ts definitely frustrating! Harris, Robert wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" > >Hi Bruce and Don, > >My front EGT 582 cylinder is 100 degrees hotter than the rear and it's >synchronized. Do I fix this by moving the needle clip setting on the front >carb and leave the rear. (I think they are both on they are both on the >third right now.) > >Robert Harris >KF2 > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce >Harrington >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: EGT's Solved > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" > >Hi Jared, >Unfortunately your fuel burn rate will now be higher! >I always used 165s in cold weather, and 162s in warm. >I also changed the needle jets, and had mixture control. >bh > > > >> A few weeks ago I posted a 582 EGT problem. A difference in EGT's >>of nearly 85 and very high. >> As it turned out my carb was jetted with 160 mains so after putting the >>165's spares and doing a correct syncronization of the carb slides and >>Verify clips on 3rd notch (moving slides to top of throttle body where >>the main jets are the only influence and feeling or eyeballing) then my >>EGTs evened out and came down into the 1000-1100 range. Thanks for all >>your good feedback! It turned out all logical once you helped me >>understand!! >> >>Jared >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:37:23 PM PST US From: "Dee Young" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Jabiru Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:37:09 -0600 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" Mike what is the web site address? Dee Young Model II N345DY ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Chaney To: "Kitfox (E-mail)" 1.9 DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06 Date : kitfox-list@matronics.com%201.9%20DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06%20Date%20:%20kitfox-list@matronics.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 6:39 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Jabiru --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Chaney > I'm just now catching up on the list activity after a few days out and noticed much discussion concerning the Jabiru and the Kitfox. I installed a Jabiru 2200 on my Model IV two years ago and have been happy with the performance. I had a 582 before the Jabiru and feel the Jabiru has increased performance. I now cruse in the low 90 MPG's. I maintained the round cowling which required the most work in the entire installation. I have some pictures posted on the Jabiru USA website. There are also other Kitfox pictures posted on this site also. I must say the the folks at Jabiru USA were wonderful to work with. Even when I experienced a problem a year after the sale they were still helpful and wanted to see me flying again. Mike Chaney ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:39:56 PM PST US From: "Rick" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Jabiru --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" Wow..90mpg :) he he he Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mike Chaney DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06 Date : kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Jabiru --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mike Chaney I'm just now catching up on the list activity after a few days out and noticed much discussion concerning the Jabiru and the Kitfox. I installed a Jabiru 2200 on my Model IV two years ago and have been happy with the performance. I had a 582 before the Jabiru and feel the Jabiru has increased performance. I now cruse in the low 90 MPG's. I maintained the round cowling which required the most work in the entire installation. I have some pictures posted on the Jabiru USA website. There are also other Kitfox pictures posted on this site also. I must say the the folks at Jabiru USA were wonderful to work with. Even when I experienced a problem a year after the sale they were still helpful and wanted to see me flying again. Mike Chaney ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:50:43 PM PST US From: "Roger McConnell" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: kitfox near Kansas City MO --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" Don't know if I'm in your range. I'm in Duncan, about 90 miles south of Oklahoma City. Building a Series 7. Roger Mac -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kirkhull@sbcglobal.net Subject: Kitfox-List: kitfox near Kansas City MO --> Kitfox-List message posted by: I am building a Kitfox Clasic IV with a Suberu engine and was wandering if any one else in the Kansas City area( in the range of a rented Cessna 150) was also building a kitfox. I would like to look at some other projects or completed aircraft to get some Ideas . ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:29:37 PM PST US From: AlbertaIV@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: EGT's Solved --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 7/13/04 3:26:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jareds@verizon.net writes: > > Drattttt! I have been meaning to test fuel rates but haven't been able > to do it scientifically yet. > What do you think the approx burn will be now? 5 GPH??? or so?? > > Jared > Jared, 5 GPH could be a starting point. You need to fly your engine and get a good number. Don Smythe DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:32:03 PM PST US From: AlbertaIV@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Bruce and Don 582 EGT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 7/13/04 1:06:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Robert_Harris@intuit.com writes: > > My front EGT 582 cylinder is 100 degrees hotter than the rear and it's > synchronized. Do I fix this by moving the needle clip setting on the front > carb and leave the rear. (I think they are both on they are both on the > third right now.) > > Robert Harris > KF2 > Robert, We just went through all this with Jared. First, check to make sure the instrumentation is correct. Then, check the main jets, for the proper value for the present OAT's. Look at Jareds last post and check all the stuff..... Don Smythe DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:56 PM PST US From: "Howard Firm" Subject: Kitfox-List: trying to find --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" Is there a Charlie Cook Jr on the list? Does anyone know this person? He might live in Arkansas. I need to got hold of him to complete my registration process. Howard Firm 508 12th St. South Virginia MN 55792 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:19:37 PM PST US From: "Bruce Harrington" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: EGT's Solved --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" Hi Jared, 5 gph or worse during warm weather. I used to get 4.5 gph at 6000 rpm. With mixture control, I ran my EGTs at 1200F, and a bit higher, because with the mixture control you can check to see what the gauges show when rich (4 cycling), and mine showed 1100 there. You really have to do a bunch of testing if you want reliability and good fuel burn. You could try 162 mains (is there another between 160 and 165?), but use a bit bigger needle jet. Have fun playing with the 582 and EGTs! bh ex-N194KF 582ed IV-1200, 800+ hrs > Drattttt! I have been meaning to test fuel rates but haven't been able > to do it scientifically yet. > What do you think the approx burn will be now? 5 GPH??? or so?? > > Jared ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:21:13 PM PST US From: "Bruce Harrington" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Bruce and Don 582 EGT --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" Hi Robert, See jareds response! bh > Hi Bruce and Don, > > My front EGT 582 cylinder is 100 degrees hotter than the rear and it's > synchronized. Do I fix this by moving the needle clip setting on the front > carb and leave the rear. (I think they are both on they are both on the > third right now.) > > Robert Harris > KF2 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:26:19 PM PST US From: Forfun3@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: kitfox near Kansas City MO --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Forfun3@aol.com Model 5 Vixen, at Kirksville, IRK Missouri. 110 Miles NE of MCI, certainly happy to have visits. Ralph Boling ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:58:00 PM PST US From: KITFOXPILOT@att.net Subject: Kitfox-List: Bad Fuel Lines! 0.5 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary --> Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXPILOT@att.net Don Smyth did a test a while back on fuel lines, well I discovered that my lines also were swelled up on the inside. If anyone has the MIL-H-6000 2/91 mine is 5/16, take it off!! I replaced mine with USCG approved fuel line which is gas friendly. I discovered this problem due to a serious loss of rpm's after take off. I also discovered that my fuel pump may have gone bad. OH, I have a 912S. I would post photo's of the fuel line, but I think Don Smyth has them posted on Sport Flight if I'm right. Ray, N2BH Don Smyth did a test a while back on fuel lines, well I discovered that my lines also were swelled up on the inside. If anyone has the MIL-H-6000 2/91 mine is 5/16, take it off!! I replaced mine with USCG approved fuel line which is gas friendly. I discovered this problem due to a serious loss of rpm's after take off. I also discovered that my fuel pump may have gone bad. OH, I have a 912S. I would post photo's of the fuel line, but I think Don Smyth has them posted on Sport Flight if I'm right. Ray, N2BH ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:36:03 PM PST US From: "John Murphy" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: kitfox near Kansas City MO --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Murphy" I own a Classic 4 Speedster with a 912UL. Would be happy to show it to you. The airplane is at Spirit Airport in St. Louis. John Murphy >From: "Roger McConnell" >Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: kitfox near Kansas City MO >Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:37:51 -0500 > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" > > Don't know if I'm in your range. I'm in Duncan, about 90 miles >south of >Oklahoma City. Building a Series 7. > Roger Mac >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of >kirkhull@sbcglobal.net >To: kitfox list >Subject: Kitfox-List: kitfox near Kansas City MO > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: > >I am building a Kitfox Clasic IV with a Suberu engine and was wandering if >any one else in the Kansas City area( in the range of a rented Cessna 150) >was also building a kitfox. I would like to look at some other projects or >completed aircraft to get some Ideas . > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 10:53:58 PM PST US From: "jimshumaker" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" Glenn My invoice from Applied Industrial Technologies is for 2 GENE 32262-88 commercial ball bearings. Cost all of $4.20 each. The bearings that come with the wheels are built with a ridge that will prevent the wheel from running off the axle in the event of a bearing failure. The GENE 32262-88 does not. That and the slightly narrower wheel are the reason for the oversize washer. The washer does tend to capture the grass and weeds from the off field landings. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Horne" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" > > Jim, > Got a bearing number for the axel. > Don't take the wheel off. Maybe you > have the box around that the bearing came in. > Glenn > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jimshumaker > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" > > Glenn > > The homebuilders wheel in Aircraft spruce is soft rubber. It took out all > that taxi vibration on asphalt. I am very happy with it as it does what I > wanted it to and it is smaller and lighter and works well off field and > never have to worry about patching it. > > Jim Shumaker > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenn Horne" > To: > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" > > > > Jim, > > I was just looking at that wheel, but couldn't > > tell if it puma tic or a softer rubber. On my > > Model II I have a solid (hard) rubber tail wheel. > > Would like to change mine. How do you like yours? > > Glenn Horne-Suffolk, Va > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jimshumaker > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" > > > > > Aircraft Spruce 2003-2004 Page 217 P/N 06-03600. > > > > I changed bearings to fit the axle by puchasing from a local bearing > house. > > But then had to add oversize washers as safety stops. Could have done it > > just as well by using a piece of steel tubing to shim the space between > > bearing and axle. > > > > Jim Shumaker > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Burke" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke > > > > > > Jim, I would like to do the same. Can you give me some numbers for the > > wheel > > > and barring needed? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > James E. Burke > > > (N94JE) > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > > > From: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > Date: 07/11/04 01:54:08 > > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" > > > > > > > > Michel > > > > > > I changed my Maule hard wheel to an Aircraft Spruce sport builders > wheel. > > > Cost just $25 for the wheel and a few more dollars for the bearing and > > > oversize washers. Very cheap and a much softer ride. It takes out > that > > > annoying pavement vibration. Works well off field also. > > > > > > Jim Shumaker > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Michel Verheughe" > > > To: > > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Maule was RE: > > > > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > > > > > > > > Lmar wrote: > > > > > I found a great site for the Maule > > > > > > > > > > http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/Maule_Tailwheel.pdf > > > > > > > > Thanks Larry. This is a definitive "must keep." Incidentally, I am > > > considering > > > > changing my hard wheel for a pneumatic one. I fly mostly from asphalt > > and > > > the > > > > hard wheel is ... a bit hard. Checking Aircraft Spruce, I see that > these > > > wheels > > > > are not that expensive. Maybe a good Christmas gift, who knows! :-) > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Michel > > > > > > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >