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1. 02:08 AM - Re: NSI Turbo Question (Howard Firm)
2. 02:18 AM - Re: Fw: Special EAA Chapter E-Gram: Sport Pilot Rule (broschart)
3. 02:25 AM - SV: Com Antenna (Michel Verheughe)
4. 08:10 AM - Aircraft Spruce WAS: (Off-Topic) Sport Pilot (Michel Verheughe)
5. 09:10 AM - Re: SV: Com Antenna (kurt schrader)
6. 10:38 AM - Hats off to Fred Shiple (Scott McClintock)
7. 02:00 PM - Re: NSI idle RPM (Howard Firm)
8. 06:41 PM - Re: NSI idle RPM (Rick)
9. 06:55 PM - I am a bit dissapointed because Aircraft Spruce hasn't yet answered to my email. (Rex & Jan Shaw)
10. 06:57 PM - Re: NSI idle RPM (Rick)
11. 07:06 PM - Re: NSI idle RPM (Rick)
12. 07:24 PM - Re: I am a bit dissapointed because Aircraft Spruce hasn't yet answered to my email. (Jay & Beverly Carter)
13. 07:31 PM - Re: I am a bit disappointed because Aircraft Spruce (Steve Zakreski)
14. 08:55 PM - Re: I am a bit disappointed because Aircraft Spruce hasn't yet a... (Aerobatics@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: NSI Turbo Question |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
Design Engineering Inc. Most auto shops will carry it. 1/2" wide X 50'.
You'll need 2 of those.
Howard >
> I got 52 million goggle hits for DEI. Maybe you could
> share some details on your wrap, pleez? It sounds
> much better than the wrap I have now.
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Special EAA Chapter E-Gram: Sport Pilot Rule |
Clears Fi...
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: broschart <cfbflyer@localnet.com>
i would get the physical and be set for 3 more years, by then all the current
problems will be resolved and you can get the sign off's when convient
Have a good day - Charlie
Bruce Harrington wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
>
> Hi Don,
> I would recommend still trying to pass the flight physical. More priveleges.
> bh
>
> > Can someone break this down into common language? My flight physical is due
> > in a few weeks. Does this mean that I don't have to worry about getting one?
> > Just keep the old Virginia drivers license handy???
> >
> > Don Smythe
> > DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: John E. King [kingjohn@erols.com]
> I believe that the coil at the base of the Marine VHF whip antenna is to
> extend the electrical length of the antenna, otherwise the whip would
> have to be much longer at those operating frequencies.
Well, ... ok, John. I used to think that marine VHF antenna were quart wave verticals
with built-in ground planes, working like the aviation one, in the two
meters band, only that it is frequency modulate, instead of amplitude. I have
never seen an external ground plane in any sailboat mast but ... I must be wrong
then.
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Aircraft Spruce WAS: (Off-Topic) Sport Pilot |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
RICHARD HUTSON wrote:
> You are trying to get in touch with Aircraft Spruce about a part if you will
> sent me the info you need, I will call them Monday morning and there get an
> answer and email you back.
Thank you very much Richard but it won't be necessary. The question I asked
them has been answered by this list, namely that I should buy the "Homebuilder
Special" in the Standard 45 degrees version. I have previously purchased from
Aircraft Spruce and they have always accepted my money. I am only a bit
disappointed that they don't answer email.
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Michel,
A coil ground plane? With such a fine liquid grnd
conductor sliding by just below? I am not a boater,
but that sounds like a waste to me. Maybe it has to
do with corrosion protection? All our Navy HF's used
that big boat and the water as the grnd plane, as far
as I know. Our sailors spare time and paint are the
corrosion protection.
Antenna coils are there to fool the transmitter into
thinking it has a bigger antenna - one that fits, like
John says. The coil absorbs some of the transmitter
power. That helps save the transmitter, but doesn't
put much more signal out since the power is absorbed
by the coil.
Think I'll start an organization for abused radios. I
am not a morning person, so it will be an FM shelter
only. :~)
Kurt S. S-5 w/NSI turno & CAP-140 prop
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
>
> > From: John E. King [kingjohn@erols.com]
> > I believe that the coil at the base of the Marine
> VHF whip antenna is to extend the electrical
> > length of the antenna, otherwise the whip would
> > have to be much longer at those operating
> frequencies.
>
> Well, ... ok, John. I used to think that marine VHF
> antenna were quart wave verticals with built-in
> ground planes, working like the aviation one, in the
> two meters band, only that it is frequency modulate,
> instead of amplitude. I have never seen an external
> ground plane in any sailboat mast but ... I must be
> wrong then.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Hats off to Fred Shiple |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
Just thought you guys would want to know what a fantastic fellow our
Fred is.
Fred sent me his S6 flapperons to replace those on the "Arctic Fox", one
of which I tweaked in May.
The crate was delivered to Nome on Friday and I picked it up that
afternoon. Fred did a excellent job in packing and protecting the
fragile goods inside. All was perfect.
I offered to send Fred a check for the flapperons but he insisted that I
wait and inspect them once they got here. When I picked the crate up,
the shipping was PRE-PAID. What a guy!!!
Fred, I'll contact you off-list but I just wanted everybody to know
what a straight-up good guy you are.
Now, if Grove would just get off their butts and send me my landing
gear, I'll be back up in the air and can take Fred out to my favorite
salmon fishing spot. (Oh yeah, I owe Fred a trip and we are having a
record year of returning salmon up here on the Seward peninsula)
I and the "Arctic Fox" thank you, Fred.
Scott in Nome
P.S. My wife says the empty crate will make a great planter box for her
posies.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: NSI idle RPM |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
Didn't have time to write much this morning....so I can now.
The heat wrap has an outside temp of about 300 degrees when the probe is at
1350. The wrap does have a lifespan of about 100 hours. it will start
discoloring and letting more heat through. I was very impressed with how it
worked and it was well worth the .50 cent per foot price. The turbo is not
wrapped, but when the prop is turning, most of the heat is coming out the
pilot side cowl vent. So far, All my temps are below what I expected. No
overheating from ground work at all.
I don't have a thermostat in the water line. Instead, I put on a adjustable
radiator flap. I noticed that the cabin heater alone dropped my water temps
by 15 degrees. My motor oil cooler is mounted right under the gearbox...I'm
hoping that I don't have to add a flap there....I'll see this winter when it
is -20 or -30f and I need warmer oil. Here are more pics of my cowling and
radiator flap.
http://www.mvas.com/sidevent.jpg
http://www.mvas.com/radscoop.jpg
http://www.mvas.com/front.jpg
Howard
NSI EA-81 Turbo CAP
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
I believe the turbo engine should idle at about 1250, 650-700 non turbo,
1800 too 2000 is to fast. One thing you might want to consider when flying
is what pitch and throttle setting will keep your engine running in the air.
On the ground also but more important in the air. When you begin desent
there is a tendency to back off the throttle without adjusting the prop
pitch. If you ground idle is set at 1250 with say 7.5 degrees and you are
cursing at 26.5 degrees at 4000, there will come a point when you exceed you
idle capability and load the engine down and she quits. Humm how do I know
this. Just though I would pass it along. I had about 500 hours on the fox
before I did that scenario.
Rick N656T
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kurt
schrader
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI idle RPM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Good question Howard,
I think the NSI cam doesn't like the low RPM's much.
Mine died at lower rpms too.
Like you, I like a good slow idle, but my
understanding is that we should keep it above 1800 to
save the gear clutch. Due to this, my flat pitch idle
is set at 1800-2000 rpm and I keep it above that for
all movements. It works out to a 2000 rpm flight idle
too and with the adjustable prop, I don't see a float
problem.
That helps keep my oil pressure up when hot as well.
Otherwise I need to cool it at higher rpm on descent
before I can use idle before or after landing.
It has to idle slow enough to go into reverse on the
ground though.
What do you other guys use?
Kurt S.
--- Howard Firm <pianome2@mchsi.com> wrote:
> ...it idles very nice at 1200. At 900 or so,
> the engine will die...is that normal? What
> do you guys have your minimum idle set to?
>
> Howard Firm
> 508 12th St. South
> Virginia MN 55792
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| Subject: | I am a bit dissapointed because Aircraft Spruce hasn't yet |
answered to my email.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
I am a bit dissapointed because Aircraft Spruce hasn't yet answered to my
email.
No they haven't answered mine either. I'm in Australia and it's nerve
wracking enough paying overseas for stuff and waiting and hoping for it to
come. If one can't get a simple E'mail response it does not instill
confidence to deal. Aircraft Spruce advertise in a local magazine [ Pacific
Flyer ] over here, they plainly invite E'mail enquiries on their site and if
the site info doesn't give sufficient info then surely it is reasonable to
expect a reply.
Can anyone subscribe to a reason they don't answer other than that they
just don't want overseas business despite advertising for it. I really would
like to know as I feel they are the practical way to get what I want if only
I can find a way to deal satisfactorilly with them.
Rex Shaw, Australia.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Howard is the side vent exhaust on both sides? I think that is a real winner
idea. If we try doing anything to the rear botton of the cowl is deflects
the air down to far away from the radiator. Nice job. I will have to get
that done befor I fire up the new engine for sure, even if its a temp rough
set up.
Rick N656T Model 5 NSI turbo CAP140 with upgrade 1
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Howard Firm
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI idle RPM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
Didn't have time to write much this morning....so I can now.
The heat wrap has an outside temp of about 300 degrees when the probe is at
1350. The wrap does have a lifespan of about 100 hours. it will start
discoloring and letting more heat through. I was very impressed with how it
worked and it was well worth the .50 cent per foot price. The turbo is not
wrapped, but when the prop is turning, most of the heat is coming out the
pilot side cowl vent. So far, All my temps are below what I expected. No
overheating from ground work at all.
I don't have a thermostat in the water line. Instead, I put on a adjustable
radiator flap. I noticed that the cabin heater alone dropped my water temps
by 15 degrees. My motor oil cooler is mounted right under the gearbox...I'm
hoping that I don't have to add a flap there....I'll see this winter when it
is -20 or -30f and I need warmer oil. Here are more pics of my cowling and
radiator flap.
http://www.mvas.com/sidevent.jpg
http://www.mvas.com/radscoop.jpg
http://www.mvas.com/front.jpg
Howard
NSI EA-81 Turbo CAP
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
If the oil pressure drops too low either the oil is too hot, wrong
weight,poor oil cooler location or flow or some combination. The relief
valve spring can be shimmed to bring working pressure up but as a last
resort. I may be missing something but flat pitch idle is a non issue. I
believe you want the engine to idle at some pitch that will provide a load
and air flow. Maybe 1800-200 flat equals out to 1250 at 7.5 or some number,
not sure.
Rick N656T Model 5 NSI turbo CAP140 with upgrade 1
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kurt
schrader
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI idle RPM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Good question Howard,
I think the NSI cam doesn't like the low RPM's much.
Mine died at lower rpms too.
Like you, I like a good slow idle, but my
understanding is that we should keep it above 1800 to
save the gear clutch. Due to this, my flat pitch idle
is set at 1800-2000 rpm and I keep it above that for
all movements. It works out to a 2000 rpm flight idle
too and with the adjustable prop, I don't see a float
problem.
That helps keep my oil pressure up when hot as well.
Otherwise I need to cool it at higher rpm on descent
before I can use idle before or after landing.
It has to idle slow enough to go into reverse on the
ground though.
What do you other guys use?
Kurt S.
--- Howard Firm <pianome2@mchsi.com> wrote:
> ...it idles very nice at 1200. At 900 or so,
> the engine will die...is that normal? What
> do you guys have your minimum idle set to?
>
> Howard Firm
> 508 12th St. South
> Virginia MN 55792
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: I am a bit dissapointed because Aircraft Spruce hasn't |
yet answered to my email.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay & Beverly Carter" <valley361@centurytel.net>
Rex,
Have you tried contacting ACS in Australia? The reps are listed in
the ACS catalog.
Do not archive
.
>
>
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| Subject: | I am a bit disappointed because Aircraft Spruce |
hasn't yet answered to my email.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca> hasn't yet
answered to my email.
That is odd. I have purchased a ton of stuff from Aircraft Spruce and find
them outstanding when it comes to customer service. It may be due to
vacations or the air show season (Arlington/Oshkosh). Keep trying Rex. I
practically live with their catalog beside me all the time.
SteveZ
Calgary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rex & Jan
Shaw
Subject: Kitfox-List: I am a bit dissapointed because Aircraft Spruce
hasn't yet answered to my email.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
I am a bit dissapointed because Aircraft Spruce hasn't yet answered to my
email.
No they haven't answered mine either. I'm in Australia and it's nerve
wracking enough paying overseas for stuff and waiting and hoping for it to
come. If one can't get a simple E'mail response it does not instill
confidence to deal. Aircraft Spruce advertise in a local magazine [ Pacific
Flyer ] over here, they plainly invite E'mail enquiries on their site and if
the site info doesn't give sufficient info then surely it is reasonable to
expect a reply.
Can anyone subscribe to a reason they don't answer other than that they
just don't want overseas business despite advertising for it. I really would
like to know as I feel they are the practical way to get what I want if only
I can find a way to deal satisfactorilly with them.
Rex Shaw, Australia.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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