Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Tue 08/03/04


Total Messages Posted: 34



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:55 AM - Re: W/B question (Fox5flyer)
     2. 03:55 AM - Re: NSI oil seal replacement update (Fox5flyer)
     3. 05:44 AM - Re: W/B question (W Duke)
     4. 06:48 AM - Re: W/B question (Bob Unternaehrer)
     5. 07:01 AM - Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed they said he was  (Clifford Begnaud)
     6. 07:13 AM - Re: W/B question (jeff.hays@aselia.com)
     7. 07:21 AM - Preflight checklist (jareds)
     8. 07:54 AM - Re: Oshkosh anybody? (Lowell Fitt)
     9. 08:14 AM - Re: Oshkosh anybody? (Mark Schindler)
    10. 09:50 AM - Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed they said he was  (Mark Miller)
    11. 10:38 AM - Re: Preflight checklist (LeRoy staley)
    12. 11:01 AM - Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed they said he was (RICHARD HUTSON)
    13. 11:19 AM - Re: Oshkosh anybody? (owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com)
    14. 11:31 AM - preflight checklist (W Duke)
    15. 12:01 PM - Re: SV: Tailwheels (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
    16. 12:38 PM - Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed they said he was  (Clifford Begnaud)
    17. 12:47 PM - Re: OT: News from the north (Torgeir Mortensen)
    18. 12:48 PM - Re: Oshkosh anybody? (Michel Verheughe)
    19. 01:01 PM - Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed they said he was (Fox5flyer)
    20. 01:18 PM - Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed they said he was  (Lowell Fitt)
    21. 01:23 PM - Re: SV: Tailwheels (Jeffry Larson)
    22. 02:09 PM - Re: Oshkosh anybody? GPS (Jose M. Toro)
    23. 02:14 PM - Re: rollerblade tailwheels (flier)
    24. 02:17 PM - Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed they said he was (Jose M. Toro)
    25. 02:44 PM - Re: OT: News from the north (Michel Verheughe)
    26. 04:19 PM - Re: Oshkosh anybody? GPS (Allan Aaron)
    27. 04:26 PM - Re: Oshkosh anybody? (Allan Aaron)
    28. 06:07 PM - Re: NSI Oil Seal (Fox5flyer)
    29. 06:17 PM - Rotax 582 idle (Rex & Jan Shaw)
    30. 06:55 PM - NSI Oil Seal Replacement Update (Fox5flyer)
    31. 06:59 PM -  (Lmar)
    32. 06:59 PM -  (Lmar)
    33. 07:12 PM - Re: W/B question ()
    34. 07:32 PM - Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed they said he was (Don Pearsall)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:55:06 AM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Re: W/B question
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> Good advice Rick. That acrylic can be brittle and will easily crack. However it's not necessary to go with that expensive diamond saw. A standard plumbers fine tooth hole saw (Home Depot, hardware stores, etc) will work nicely and a lot cheaper. The trick is to run it backward and let it grind its way through. Very little danger if careful. Did you mention to go slow? :-) Darrel > > Just go slow on that door. I would invest in a diamond chip hole saw and go > slow about half through on both sides. Sand/polish edges. One crack and she > is a gonner. Do it with the door off and supported. Did i mention going > slow. :) > > Rick N656T > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > jeff.hays@aselia.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: W/B question > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" > <jeff.hays@aselia.com> > > > I have both a set of homemade NACA vents in the cowl, as well as > some 3.5" vents in the bubble doors. I still feel like I'm going > to roast alive in the summer. In any case the 3.5" snap vents > came from Wicks and fit fine in the bubble doors. > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: W Duke n981ms@yahoo.com > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:13:46 -0700 (PDT) > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: W/B question > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com> > > Howard, > I used Van's vents mounted in the side of the cowling. They work well. > I coupled the eyeball to the NACA with appropriate sized radiator hose. > There are some photos of the outside at Sport Flight: > http://www.sportflight.com/uploads/AloneA.jpg > I will see if I have some of the inside handy and post them. > > Maxwell > > Howard Firm <pianome2@mchsi.com> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" > > > I'm doing my W/B next weekend and needed to know what the 1 degree swept > wings does to the calculations. Does the Datum change? Does the C-G envelope > change? Maybe Kurt, you could post your numbers for a reference as we are > very similar. > > Also, users with LP bubble doors, do you know of any vents that can be > installed on the slightly curved surface? My cabin is very sealed and I see > I'm going to need air coming in... > > Howard Firm > 508 12th St. South > Virginia MN 55792 > > > Maxwell Duke > S6/IO240/Phase II Flight Testing > > --------------------------------- > >


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    Time: 03:55:06 AM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Re: NSI oil seal replacement update
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> Thanks Rick. I appreciate the help. Darrel > > Have someone hold the flywheel starter gear with the tip of a large > screwdriver. Also make sure you are turning it the correct way. It is not a > left thread. It should just unscrew like a normal lefty loosy righty tighty > bolt. The Subaru manual says 47-54 ftlbs with threads oiled and flange > sealant on the flange. > Rick N656T > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fox5flyer > To: Kitfox List > Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI oil seal replacement update > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > I'm having trouble removing the bolt that holds the rear pulley to the > crankshaft on my NSI so I can change the seal. That puppy is tight! > Anybody have any tricks? Do I need to just get a bigger cheater bar? I > don't have room for pneumatic impact and I'm paranoid about breaking > something. > Also, when I reinstall the bolt, what is the torque spec for it? > Thanks, > Darrel


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    Time: 05:44:03 AM PST US
    From: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: W/B question
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com> Howard, Maxwell here again. In the summer I also use an automotive sun shade. There are photos on Sport Flight. I cannot express in words the difference it makes in the South Georgia heat. It does make the Fox feel more enclosed, however. Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" Good advice Rick. That acrylic can be brittle and will easily crack. However it's not necessary to go with that expensive diamond saw. A standard plumbers fine tooth hole saw (Home Depot, hardware stores, etc) will work nicely and a lot cheaper. The trick is to run it backward and let it grind its way through. Very little danger if careful. Did you mention to go slow? :-) Darrel > > Just go slow on that door. I would invest in a diamond chip hole saw and go > slow about half through on both sides. Sand/polish edges. One crack and she > is a gonner. Do it with the door off and supported. Did i mention going > slow. :) > > Rick N656T > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > jeff.hays@aselia.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: W/B question > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" > > > > I have both a set of homemade NACA vents in the cowl, as well as > some 3.5" vents in the bubble doors. I still feel like I'm going > to roast alive in the summer. In any case the 3.5" snap vents > came from Wicks and fit fine in the bubble doors. > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: W Duke n981ms@yahoo.com > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:13:46 -0700 (PDT) > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: W/B question > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke > > Howard, > I used Van's vents mounted in the side of the cowling. They work well. > I coupled the eyeball to the NACA with appropriate sized radiator hose. > There are some photos of the outside at Sport Flight: > http://www.sportflight.com/uploads/AloneA.jpg > I will see if I have some of the inside handy and post them. > > Maxwell > > Howard Firm wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" > > > I'm doing my W/B next weekend and needed to know what the 1 degree swept > wings does to the calculations. Does the Datum change? Does the C-G envelope > change? Maybe Kurt, you could post your numbers for a reference as we are > very similar. > > Also, users with LP bubble doors, do you know of any vents that can be > installed on the slightly curved surface? My cabin is very sealed and I see > I'm going to need air coming in... > > Howard Firm > 508 12th St. South > Virginia MN 55792 > > > Maxwell Duke > S6/IO240/Phase II Flight Testing > > --------------------------------- > > Maxwell Duke S6/IO240/Phase II Flight Testing ---------------------------------


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    Time: 06:48:23 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
    Subject: Re: W/B question
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com> Run the hole saw backwards. Bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: W/B question > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net> > > Just go slow on that door. I would invest in a diamond chip hole saw and go > slow about half through on both sides. Sand/polish edges. One crack and she > is a gonner. Do it with the door off and supported. Did i mention going > slow. :) > > Rick N656T > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > jeff.hays@aselia.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: W/B question > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" > <jeff.hays@aselia.com> > > > I have both a set of homemade NACA vents in the cowl, as well as > some 3.5" vents in the bubble doors. I still feel like I'm going > to roast alive in the summer. In any case the 3.5" snap vents > came from Wicks and fit fine in the bubble doors. > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: W Duke n981ms@yahoo.com > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:13:46 -0700 (PDT) > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: W/B question > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com> > > Howard, > I used Van's vents mounted in the side of the cowling. They work well. > I coupled the eyeball to the NACA with appropriate sized radiator hose. > There are some photos of the outside at Sport Flight: > http://www.sportflight.com/uploads/AloneA.jpg > I will see if I have some of the inside handy and post them. > > Maxwell > > Howard Firm <pianome2@mchsi.com> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" > > > I'm doing my W/B next weekend and needed to know what the 1 degree swept > wings does to the calculations. Does the Datum change? Does the C-G envelope > change? Maybe Kurt, you could post your numbers for a reference as we are > very similar. > > Also, users with LP bubble doors, do you know of any vents that can be > installed on the slightly curved surface? My cabin is very sealed and I see > I'm going to need air coming in... > > Howard Firm > 508 12th St. South > Virginia MN 55792 > > > Maxwell Duke > S6/IO240/Phase II Flight Testing > > --------------------------------- > > > --- > > ---


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    Time: 07:01:14 AM PST US
    From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
    Subject: Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed
    they said he was --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> Rex, Ed is the major owner of Skystars. I believe that Skystar has split the company into two parts. Frank runs the kit business and Ed runs the sportplane business. Cliff > > I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed they said he was > replaced by Frank Miller. > > I only ever communicated with Ed Downs by E'mail a couple of times and only > about a month ago. I had no idea he was leaving but he impressed me as a > nice guy. I am sorry he has left Skystar and wish him well. I'm sure Frank > Miller will also do a good job. I just hope he is able to get Skystar going > well especially now the Sports Pilot and Sports Plane Rules are through. I > hate to see a business having a hard time when they don't deserve it. Also > as Kitfoxer's that's sort of our headquarters so let's hope things look up. > Rex > > Australia. > >


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    Time: 07:13:36 AM PST US
    From: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com>
    Subject: Re: W/B question
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" <jeff.hays@aselia.com> I cut my doors for the vents in about ten minutes each with a dremel. Chopped the holes with a cutter wheel, and final shape with a sanding drum. A simpler job on a Kitfox you'll hardly find. :) Biggest pain was cleaning up the acrylic dust, which static attaches to everything. Original Message: ----------------- From: W Duke n981ms@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: W/B question --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com> Howard, Maxwell here again. In the summer I also use an automotive sun shade. There are photos on Sport Flight. I cannot express in words the difference it makes in the South Georgia heat. It does make the Fox feel more enclosed, however. Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" Good advice Rick. That acrylic can be brittle and will easily crack. However it's not necessary to go with that expensive diamond saw. A standard plumbers fine tooth hole saw (Home Depot, hardware stores, etc) will work nicely and a lot cheaper. The trick is to run it backward and let it grind its way through. Very little danger if careful. Did you mention to go slow? :-) Darrel > > Just go slow on that door. I would invest in a diamond chip hole saw and go > slow about half through on both sides. Sand/polish edges. One crack and she > is a gonner. Do it with the door off and supported. Did i mention going > slow. :) > > Rick N656T > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > jeff.hays@aselia.com > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: W/B question > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jeff.hays@aselia.com" > > > > I have both a set of homemade NACA vents in the cowl, as well as > some 3.5" vents in the bubble doors. I still feel like I'm going > to roast alive in the summer. In any case the 3.5" snap vents > came from Wicks and fit fine in the bubble doors. > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: W Duke n981ms@yahoo.com > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:13:46 -0700 (PDT) > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: W/B question > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke > > Howard, > I used Van's vents mounted in the side of the cowling. They work well. > I coupled the eyeball to the NACA with appropriate sized radiator hose. > There are some photos of the outside at Sport Flight: > http://www.sportflight.com/uploads/AloneA.jpg > I will see if I have some of the inside handy and post them. > > Maxwell > > Howard Firm wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" > > > I'm doing my W/B next weekend and needed to know what the 1 degree swept > wings does to the calculations. Does the Datum change? Does the C-G envelope > change? Maybe Kurt, you could post your numbers for a reference as we are > very similar. > > Also, users with LP bubble doors, do you know of any vents that can be > installed on the slightly curved surface? My cabin is very sealed and I see > I'm going to need air coming in... > > Howard Firm > 508 12th St. South > Virginia MN 55792 > > > Maxwell Duke > S6/IO240/Phase II Flight Testing > > --------------------------------- > > Maxwell Duke S6/IO240/Phase II Flight Testing ---------------------------------


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    Time: 07:21:37 AM PST US
    From: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
    Subject: Preflight checklist
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net> I looked on the sportflight site for some sample checklists but found none? Can someone point me in the direction of a few that i can modify and review? Thanks Jared John E. King wrote: >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com> > >Gary and Robert, > >Rotax is giving a special deal for those who own a 912S that does not >have a slipper clutch. Lockwood installed my slipper clutch and >exchanged my starter for the heavy duty starter for only $800. I >shipped them the gear box and the original starter and they returned the >gear box with the new clutch installed and the new starter within a >week. Call Lockwood and see if the offer still exists. > > >


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    Time: 07:54:23 AM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
    Subject: Re: Oshkosh anybody?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com> Allan, That is the plan, but I am in the middle of getting ready for the wedding of my youngest son in Orlando Florida Saturday - we are leaving for there tomorrow morning. Then on return, I have to somehow convert my hangar to an open house venue which we will have here in Cameron Park - I live in a residential airpark. The formal reception will be in St. Augustine, Florida. This summer has been one event after another - busy. In short for now, we flew a northern route out. following is the itinerary Westbound: Cameron Park CA - Lovelock, NV - Elko, NV where Hal joined us in his Rans S-6 - Afton Wyoming where we overnighted. Afton, WY- Worland, WY - New Castle, WY - New Castle, WY - Wall, SD where we overnighted Wall, SD - Pierre, SD - Chamberlain, SD - Fairmont, MN - Reedsburg, WS - OSH The Return: Osh - Fairmont, MN - Mitchell, SD where we overnighted. Mitchell, SD - Custer, SD, Casper, Wy - Evanston, WY where we spent the night. Evanston - Elko, NV - Cameron Park, CA The winds were in our face big time across Wyoming and there was a little grumbling about the "Southern Route" home. While at Casper, some of the guys wanted to have lunch - it was about 1 pm and others wanted to press on. I was with the group that continued without lunch and we saw ground speeds in the low 60s but we got into Evanston about 1730. The others saw ground speeds in the 40s and had stop one additional time for fuel and arrived at Evanston at 2130. This was not a fun day. After spending 46 hours in that little airplane and 9 days camping out of it, it has been only one day and I am already wanting to fly. More later. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au> > > > Lowell > > Are you planning to do a write up of your trip - route, learnings, etc? > Would be great to see it. > > Allan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com> > > Darrel, > > We left for Oshkosh one day before your e-mail post. We camped in > General Aviation Camping to be closer to town and the more reasonable > eating. We were fortunate enough to be on the same row as the showers. > > Home now after putting 46 hours on the old KF. Got in about 3:00 pm > local time. Had a great time, but rushed out as I have to be in Orlando > Thursday for a son's wedding and didn't know how the weather gods would > look at us on our way home. Actually took only three days, though. We > went in as a flight of eight - all from the West Coast.. > > Sorry I missed you and some of the others. > > Lowell > >


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    Time: 08:14:17 AM PST US
    From: Mark Schindler <mtschindler@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Oshkosh anybody?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark Schindler <mtschindler@yahoo.com> If anyone wants to read Allan's story about his trip from Ca to Oshkosh in Avid MK-IV check this link http://www.avidflyeraircraft.com/aaron_travel.php - once you there if you want to participate by sending my your own travel story I'll be glad to include you. Mark Lowell Fitt <lcfitt@inreach.com> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Allan, That is the plan, but I am in the middle of getting ready for the wedding of my youngest son in Orlando Florida Saturday - we are leaving for there tomorrow morning. Then on return, I have to somehow convert my hangar to an open house venue which we will have here in Cameron Park - I live in a residential airpark. The formal reception will be in St. Augustine, Florida. This summer has been one event after another - busy. In short for now, we flew a northern route out. following is the itinerary Westbound: Cameron Park CA - Lovelock, NV - Elko, NV where Hal joined us in his Rans S-6 - Afton Wyoming where we overnighted. Afton, WY- Worland, WY - New Castle, WY - New Castle, WY - Wall, SD where we overnighted Wall, SD - Pierre, SD - Chamberlain, SD - Fairmont, MN - Reedsburg, WS - OSH The Return: Osh - Fairmont, MN - Mitchell, SD where we overnighted. Mitchell, SD - Custer, SD, Casper, Wy - Evanston, WY where we spent the night. Evanston - Elko, NV - Cameron Park, CA The winds were in our face big time across Wyoming and there was a little grumbling about the "Southern Route" home. While at Casper, some of the guys wanted to have lunch - it was about 1 pm and others wanted to press on. I was with the group that continued without lunch and we saw ground speeds in the low 60s but we got into Evanston about 1730. The others saw ground speeds in the 40s and had stop one additional time for fuel and arrived at Evanston at 2130. This was not a fun day. After spending 46 hours in that little airplane and 9 days camping out of it, it has been only one day and I am already wanting to fly. More later. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Aaron" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron" > > > Lowell > > Are you planning to do a write up of your trip - route, learnings, etc? > Would be great to see it. > > Allan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" > > Darrel, > > We left for Oshkosh one day before your e-mail post. We camped in > General Aviation Camping to be closer to town and the more reasonable > eating. We were fortunate enough to be on the same row as the showers. > > Home now after putting 46 hours on the old KF. Got in about 3:00 pm > local time. Had a great time, but rushed out as I have to be in Orlando > Thursday for a son's wedding and didn't know how the weather gods would > look at us on our way home. Actually took only three days, though. We > went in as a flight of eight - all from the West Coast.. > > Sorry I missed you and some of the others. > > Lowell > > ---------------------------------


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    Time: 09:50:31 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Miller" <larsonmil3@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed
    they said he was --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mark Miller" <larsonmil3@earthlink.net> Cliff Everything you said is completely WRONG!!!. YOU should KNOW what you are talking about before starting rumors!!!!! You should talk to Frank to get the story. And I am not going to staring any rumors myself. Mark Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed they said he was > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> > > Rex, > Ed is the major owner of Skystars. I believe that Skystar has split the > company into two parts. Frank runs the kit business and Ed runs the > sportplane business. > Cliff > > > > I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed they said he was > > replaced by Frank Miller. > > > > I only ever communicated with Ed Downs by E'mail a couple of times and > only > > about a month ago. I had no idea he was leaving but he impressed me as a > > nice guy. I am sorry he has left Skystar and wish him well. I'm sure Frank > > Miller will also do a good job. I just hope he is able to get Skystar > going > > well especially now the Sports Pilot and Sports Plane Rules are through. I > > hate to see a business having a hard time when they don't deserve it. Also > > as Kitfoxer's that's sort of our headquarters so let's hope things look > up. > > Rex > > > > Australia. > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:38:20 AM PST US
    From: LeRoy staley <itis50@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Preflight checklist
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: LeRoy staley <itis50@yahoo.com> I use the one that the man used who I bought my Fox from. It goes like this: CIGAR TIP: C: controls free and correct I: instruments scan G: gas or fuel A: altimiter set R: radios on proper frequency T: trim and transponder I: information on active runway or ATIS at some airports P: checking the pattern for other aircraft Now go fly: --- jareds <jareds@verizon.net> wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds > <jareds@verizon.net> > > I looked on the sportflight site for some sample > checklists but found none? > Can someone point me in the direction of a few that > i can modify and review? > > Thanks > > Jared > > > John E. King wrote: > > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " > <kingjohn@erols.com> > > > >Gary and Robert, > > > >Rotax is giving a special deal for those who own a > 912S that does not > >have a slipper clutch. Lockwood installed my > slipper clutch and > >exchanged my starter for the heavy duty starter for > only $800. I > >shipped them the gear box and the original starter > and they returned the > >gear box with the new clutch installed and the new > starter within a > >week. Call Lockwood and see if the offer still > exists. > > > > > > > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > __________________________________ http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail


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    Time: 11:01:59 AM PST US
    From: "RICHARD HUTSON" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed
    they said he was --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RICHARD HUTSON" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com> MARK YOU NEED TO READ THE ARTICLE IN AERO-NEWS, ED HAS RESIGNED. READ " NEW SPORT FLYING COMPANY TAKES OFF" DATED 7/27/2004 http://www.aero-news.net/news/sport.cfm?ContentBlockID=83ece717-d34f-4153-91cf-7819e0024bf3&Dynamic=1&Range=NOW&FromDate=07%2F27%2F2004&ToDate=07%2F27%2F2004&Category=%2Fnews%2Fsport.cfm. THIS IS THE LINK TO THE ARTICLE.


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    Time: 11:19:29 AM PST US
    From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by:
    From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
    Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? Sounds like fun. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Schindler Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark Schindler <mtschindler@yahoo.com> If anyone wants to read Allan's story about his trip from Ca to Oshkosh in Avid MK-IV check this link http://www.avidflyeraircraft.com/aaron_travel.php - once you there if you want to participate by sending my your own travel story I'll be glad to include you. Mark Lowell Fitt <lcfitt@inreach.com> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Allan, That is the plan, but I am in the middle of getting ready for the wedding of my youngest son in Orlando Florida Saturday - we are leaving for there tomorrow morning. Then on return, I have to somehow convert my hangar to an open house venue which we will have here in Cameron Park - I live in a residential airpark. The formal reception will be in St. Augustine, Florida. This summer has been one event after another - busy. In short for now, we flew a northern route out. following is the itinerary Westbound: Cameron Park CA - Lovelock, NV - Elko, NV where Hal joined us in his Rans S-6 - Afton Wyoming where we overnighted. Afton, WY- Worland, WY - New Castle, WY - New Castle, WY - Wall, SD where we overnighted Wall, SD - Pierre, SD - Chamberlain, SD - Fairmont, MN - Reedsburg, WS - OSH The Return: Osh - Fairmont, MN - Mitchell, SD where we overnighted. Mitchell, SD - Custer, SD, Casper, Wy - Evanston, WY where we spent the night. Evanston - Elko, NV - Cameron Park, CA The winds were in our face big time across Wyoming and there was a little grumbling about the "Southern Route" home. While at Casper, some of the guys wanted to have lunch - it was about 1 pm and others wanted to press on. I was with the group that continued without lunch and we saw ground speeds in the low 60s but we got into Evanston about 1730. The others saw ground speeds in the 40s and had stop one additional time for fuel and arrived at Evanston at 2130. This was not a fun day. After spending 46 hours in that little airplane and 9 days camping out of it, it has been only one day and I am already wanting to fly. More later. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Aaron" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron" > > > Lowell > > Are you planning to do a write up of your trip - route, learnings, etc? > Would be great to see it. > > Allan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" > > Darrel, > > We left for Oshkosh one day before your e-mail post. We camped in > General Aviation Camping to be closer to town and the more reasonable > eating. We were fortunate enough to be on the same row as the showers. > > Home now after putting 46 hours on the old KF. Got in about 3:00 pm > local time. Had a great time, but rushed out as I have to be in Orlando > Thursday for a son's wedding and didn't know how the weather gods would > look at us on our way home. Actually took only three days, though. We > went in as a flight of eight - all from the West Coast.. > > Sorry I missed you and some of the others. > > Lowell > > ---------------------------------


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    Time: 11:31:20 AM PST US
    From: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
    Subject: preflight checklist
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com> I added my preflight checklist to Sportflight. It is a compilation/distillation from Kitfox Pilot's Guide and personal experience. It is in a continuous state of refinement. Feel free to adapt or discard as you see fit. Maxwell ---------------------------------


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    Time: 12:01:22 PM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Tailwheels
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net check also the verticality of the tailwheel pivot. the only time my maul shimmies is if stick full back at higher taxi speed forces the tail town and alters the pivot angle. releasing the stick slightly stops the shimmy. John -------------- Original message -------------- > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > > Just a note: > > My friend used an actual rollerblade wheel for his > tailwheel on his 2/3rd scale Jenny. It seemed to work > well taxiing and taking off. Unfortunately he only > had one landing with it, and that was into a lake. > :-( > > For my first time, I had 2 bouts with tailwheel shimmy > on the club Champ I was flying last week. I really > shook the plane! That is a Scott assembly and > probably needs unequal springs installed. > > Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo > > --- Michel Verheughe wrote: > > > PS: Now I have to rollerblade to know how THAT > > feels! :-) > > > > Cheers, > > Michel > > > > do not archive > > > > __________________________________ > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > > > > check also the verticality of the tailwheel pivot. the only time my maul shimmies is if stick full back at higher taxi speed forces the tail town and alters the pivot angle. releasing the stick slightly stops the shimmy. John -------------- Original message -------------- -- Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <SMOKEY_BEAR_40220@YAHOO.COM> Just a note: My friend used an actual rollerblade wheel for his tailwheel on his 2/3rd scale Jenny. It seemed to work well taxiing and taking off. Unfortunately he only had one landing with it, and that was into a lake. :-( For my first time, I had 2 bouts with tailwheel shimmy on the club Champ I was flying last week. I really shook the plane! That is a Scott assembly and probably needs unequal springs installed. Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo --- Michel Verheughe <MICHEL@ONLINE.NO>wrote: PS: Now I have to rollerblade to know how THAT feels! :-) Cheers, Michel do not archive __________________________________ http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm


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    Time: 12:38:12 PM PST US
    From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
    Subject: Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed
    they said he was --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> Mark, What rumor did I start? I didn't know Ed had resigned, sorry. But my comment about the company splitting and the comment about who was running which division was right on the money. Here is a clip from a news release found on Skystar's web site: "Like our single-celled friend, the amoeba, SkyStar Aircraft has divided itself into two parts. The part we are all familiar with, that is, makers of the famed line of Kitfox Aircraft, will now be known as SkyStar Aircraft Corporation, Experimental/Manufacturing Division. This division will be headed by a new President and CEO, Frank Miller. The newly created SkyStar Aircraft Corporation, Sport Plane Division will be under the direction of former SkyStar President, Ed Downs. Mr. Downs will now serve as the President of the Sport Plane Division. " I apologize for ruffling your feathers so badly. I have just cut off my left hand to make sure I don't post anything in error again. Best Regards, Cliff > Cliff > > Everything you said is completely WRONG!!!. > YOU should KNOW what you are talking about before starting rumors!!!!! > You should talk to Frank to get the story. > And I am not going to staring any rumors myself. > > > Mark Miller > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for > Ed they said he was > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" > <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> > > > > Rex, > > Ed is the major owner of Skystars. I believe that Skystar has split the > > company into two parts. Frank runs the kit business and Ed runs the > > sportplane business. > > Cliff > > > > > > I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed they said he was > > > replaced by Frank Miller. > > > > > > I only ever communicated with Ed Downs by E'mail a couple of times and > > only > > > about a month ago. I had no idea he was leaving but he impressed me as a > > > nice guy. I am sorry he has left Skystar and wish him well. I'm sure > Frank > > > Miller will also do a good job. I just hope he is able to get Skystar > > going > > > well especially now the Sports Pilot and Sports Plane Rules are through. > I > > > hate to see a business having a hard time when they don't deserve it. > Also > > > as Kitfoxer's that's sort of our headquarters so let's hope things look > > up. > > > Rex > > > > > > Australia. > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:47:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: OT: News from the north
    From: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no> Hi Michel and all, Yes, this summer is quite extraordinary as the temp has been between (25-30) deg C (77-86 deg. F) for a long time. (Remember this place is at 69'40 deg. Northern lat) Have been flying my Fox as often as possible.. Have been in the most "Eastern" town Kirkenes with the Fox, 240 NM non stop - not bad (for a guy like me.. :) .. Last weekend, I joined the GAP (good aviation practice) fly in weekend at Elvenes (about 52 NM from my hometown). This was a fantastic adventure, just beyond my imagination. I joined a "little" bush flying seminar (just three planes was qualified for this), an Army Cub and two Kitfoxes. After some good discussion and briefing, we went out flying to practice with the local pro.. As you can imagine, we visited some extraordinary fields. The last field we visited, a historic place, where Trygve Gran was flying the first flight ever in the Northern part of Norway -back in 1915. I've been told that very few planes have been landing at this field. Well-, if you ever has the possibility to join such a "bush seminar", do it, you'll never regret it. Just fantastic. Cheers Torgeir. > > Hello Torgeir! Indeed, long time no see! In fact, I was about to write > to you privately, wondering if everything was ok with you ... or maybe > too ok, in the fine summer you have had up north. do not archive > > -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/


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    Time: 12:48:37 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Oshkosh anybody?
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Mark Schindler wrote: > If anyone wants to read Allan's story about his trip from Ca to Oshkosh in Avid MK-IV Thanks for the link, Mark. I always like to read about the experiences of others. That's how one learns. Next summer, I'll also have a Jabiru on my Kitfox and I intend to fly to Belgium and France. Meanwhile, keep posting your experiences, guys! Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 01:01:48 PM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed
    they said he was --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> Thanks for the Link Richard. I read the article twice and still am not sure what it is that they plan to do. Darrel PS: just a side note. In internet "netiquette" all caps generally means you're yelling. :-) > > MARK YOU NEED TO READ THE ARTICLE IN AERO-NEWS, ED HAS RESIGNED. READ " NEW > SPORT FLYING COMPANY TAKES OFF" DATED 7/27/2004 > http://www.aero-news.net/news/sport.cfm?ContentBlockID=83ece717-d34f-4153-91cf-7819e0024bf3&Dynamic=1&Range=NOW&FromDate=07%2F27%2F2004&ToDate=07%2F27%2F2004&Category=%2Fnews%2Fsport.cfm. > THIS IS THE LINK TO THE ARTICLE.


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    Time: 01:18:03 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
    Subject: Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed
    they said he was --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com> My guess is that there is a lot more to this than has been released. I tried to get a little info while at OSH, but was not successful. I can't imagine though, a principle of a company - name that part owner - that is in major financial stress as we all know, to simply resign and walk away. My best wishes to Frank as he works to put Skystar back together. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Miller" <larsonmil3@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed they said he was > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mark Miller" <larsonmil3@earthlink.net> > > Cliff > > Everything you said is completely WRONG!!!. > YOU should KNOW what you are talking about before starting rumors!!!!! > You should talk to Frank to get the story. > And I am not going to staring any rumors myself. > > > Mark Miller > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for > Ed they said he was > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" > <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> > > > > Rex, > > Ed is the major owner of Skystars. I believe that Skystar has split the > > company into two parts. Frank runs the kit business and Ed runs the > > sportplane business. > > Cliff > > > > > > I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed they said he was > > > replaced by Frank Miller. > > > > > > I only ever communicated with Ed Downs by E'mail a couple of times and > > only > > > about a month ago. I had no idea he was leaving but he impressed me as a > > > nice guy. I am sorry he has left Skystar and wish him well. I'm sure > Frank > > > Miller will also do a good job. I just hope he is able to get Skystar > > going > > > well especially now the Sports Pilot and Sports Plane Rules are through. > I > > > hate to see a business having a hard time when they don't deserve it. > Also > > > as Kitfoxer's that's sort of our headquarters so let's hope things look > > up. > > > Rex > > > > > > Australia. > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:23:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tailwheels
    From: Jeffry Larson <jeffryl@us.ibm.com>
    08/03/2004 14:23:27 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jeffry Larson <jeffryl@us.ibm.com> I can't speak to the other tailwheels, but since my Kitfox Lite has the rollerblade for a tailwheel, all I can say is that it works great. Have over 100 landings on mine and given the fact that I fly off a 4000 foot runway and most of the time have to taxi to the other end to take off, have put quite a bit of runway under it. I'm not yet concerned about it's life expectancy, however I have replaced the front tires already. And since the rollerblade wheels can be purchased at Walmart for $12 for a package of 4, not too concerned about that either. Other Lite owners have commented that the rollerblade is not great in a soft field, but you can bang the heck out of on a concrete runway and it just keeps on ticking. Jeffry Larson MCSE - MCP+Internet Advisory Software Engineer Shark Open Systems Lab San Jose, CA 95193 jeffryl@us.ibm.com ext 66097 =


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    Time: 02:09:47 PM PST US
    From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Oshkosh anybody? GPS
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> Allan: Do you get accurate altitude readings when using the Magellan 315 as GPS receiver for the IPAC? Mark Schindler <mtschindler@yahoo.com> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark Schindler If anyone wants to read Allan's story about his trip from Ca to Oshkosh in Avid MK-IV check this link http://www.avidflyeraircraft.com/aaron_travel.php - once you there if you want to participate by sending my your own travel story I'll be glad to include you. Mark Lowell Fitt wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Allan, That is the plan, but I am in the middle of getting ready for the wedding of my youngest son in Orlando Florida Saturday - we are leaving for there tomorrow morning. Then on return, I have to somehow convert my hangar to an open house venue which we will have here in Cameron Park - I live in a residential airpark. The formal reception will be in St. Augustine, Florida. This summer has been one event after another - busy. In short for now, we flew a northern route out. following is the itinerary Westbound: Cameron Park CA - Lovelock, NV - Elko, NV where Hal joined us in his Rans S-6 - Afton Wyoming where we overnighted. Afton, WY- Worland, WY - New Castle, WY - New Castle, WY - Wall, SD where we overnighted Wall, SD - Pierre, SD - Chamberlain, SD - Fairmont, MN - Reedsburg, WS - OSH The Return: Osh - Fairmont, MN - Mitchell, SD where we overnighted. Mitchell, SD - Custer, SD, Casper, Wy - Evanston, WY where we spent the night. Evanston - Elko, NV - Cameron Park, CA The winds were in our face big time across Wyoming and there was a little grumbling about the "Southern Route" home. While at Casper, some of the guys wanted to have lunch - it was about 1 pm and others wanted to press on. I was with the group that continued without lunch and we saw ground speeds in the low 60s but we got into Evanston about 1730. The others saw ground speeds in the 40s and had stop one additional time for fuel and arrived at Evanston at 2130. This was not a fun day. After spending 46 hours in that little airplane and 9 days camping out of it, it has been only one day and I am already wanting to fly. More later. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Aaron" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron" > > > Lowell > > Are you planning to do a write up of your trip - route, learnings, etc? > Would be great to see it. > > Allan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" > > Darrel, > > We left for Oshkosh one day before your e-mail post. We camped in > General Aviation Camping to be closer to town and the more reasonable > eating. We were fortunate enough to be on the same row as the showers. > > Home now after putting 46 hours on the old KF. Got in about 3:00 pm > local time. Had a great time, but rushed out as I have to be in Orlando > Thursday for a son's wedding and didn't know how the weather gods would > look at us on our way home. Actually took only three days, though. We > went in as a flight of eight - all from the West Coast.. > > Sorry I missed you and some of the others. > > Lowell > > --------------------------------- Jos M. Toro, P.E. Computer Systems Validation Engineer Eli-Lilly PR05 ---------------------------------


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    Time: 02:14:19 PM PST US
    From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: re: rollerblade tailwheels
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net> There's apparently a lot of variation in rollerblade wheels as I've seen reports from two guys that have torn them off light experimentals. Use care in selection. Those that have shredded the rubber have gone to the 4" homebuilder's special as they ended up either in ground loops or near to it. The wheel/bearing left behind evidently doesn't do much for steering! Regards, Ted --- Original Message --- From: Jeffry Larson <jeffryl@us.ibm.com> Subject: Re: SV: Kitfox-List: Tailwheels >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jeffry Larson <jeffryl@us.ibm.com> > > >I can't speak to the other tailwheels, but since my Kitfox Lite has the >rollerblade for a tailwheel, all I can say is that it works great. Have >over 100 landings on mine and given the fact that I fly off a 4000 foot >runway and most of the time have to taxi to the other end to take off, have >put quite a bit of runway under it. > >I'm not yet concerned about it's life expectancy, however I have replaced >the front tires already. And since the rollerblade wheels can be purchased >at Walmart for $12 for a package of 4, not too concerned about that either. >Other Lite owners have commented that the rollerblade is not great in a >soft field, but you can bang the heck out of on a concrete runway and it >just keeps on ticking. > >Jeffry Larson >MCSE - MCP+Internet >Advisory Software Engineer >Shark Open Systems Lab >San Jose, CA 95193 >jeffryl@us.ibm.com >ext 66097 >


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    Time: 02:17:06 PM PST US
    From: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed
    they said he was --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> I also read the link twice and had the same feeling. In spanish that is called a "cantiflada" which means someone who speaks a lot and saids nothing. Jos Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" Thanks for the Link Richard. I read the article twice and still am not sure what it is that they plan to do. Darrel PS: just a side note. In internet "netiquette" all caps generally means you're yelling. :-) > > MARK YOU NEED TO READ THE ARTICLE IN AERO-NEWS, ED HAS RESIGNED. READ " NEW > SPORT FLYING COMPANY TAKES OFF" DATED 7/27/2004 > http://www.aero-news.net/news/sport.cfm?ContentBlockID=83ece717-d34f-4153-91cf-7819e0024bf3&Dynamic=1&Range=NOW&FromDate=07%2F27%2F2004&ToDate=07%2F27%2F2004&Category=%2Fnews%2Fsport.cfm. > THIS IS THE LINK TO THE ARTICLE. Jos M. Toro, P.E. Computer Systems Validation Engineer Eli-Lilly PR05 ---------------------------------


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    Time: 02:44:21 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: OT: News from the north
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Torgeir Mortensen wrote: > Yes, this summer is quite extraordinary Glad to hear you have a nice summer and a lot of Kitfox flying, Torgeir. Apart from the week-end fly-in at Fyresdal, I have been mostly flying locally this summer. Getting friends up in the air and having my son working the plane for his license. Next on my agenda: The Norwegian championship for microlight the 28th and 29th August at Starmoen. I don't know exactly what it is because I have never done that before but I understand that there is a navigation test that is run in a large circle. Have you ever done that? Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 04:19:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Oshkosh anybody? GPS
    From: "Allan Aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au> I cant really say - between the pressure altimeter and the altitude readout of my microair transponder I didn't feel the need to check altitude regularly on the IPAQ. I was very impressed, however, with the navigation accuracy and reliability of the IPAQ and Anywheremap. It never failed me - not once. Awesome. Having said that, now I'm back in Australia, Control Vision's (Anywheremap) Australian mapping database sucks (at least it did when I last looked at it a couple of months ago). They haven't updated it since 2001! If anyone wants a rarely used software license (and all disks/manuals) for Anywheremap (plus planner software) plus the connector module, etc, for a good price, let me know. I can't remember what it cost me - Anywheremap lists now at $289 - don't know what the other stuff lists at. I think the whole lot cost me about $400 or something. I'm tired of waiting for the company to update the Aussie map database. Allan -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jose M. Toro Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? GPS --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" --> <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com> Allan: Do you get accurate altitude readings when using the Magellan 315 as GPS receiver for the IPAC? Mark Schindler <mtschindler@yahoo.com> wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark Schindler If anyone wants to read Allan's story about his trip from Ca to Oshkosh in Avid MK-IV check this link http://www.avidflyeraircraft.com/aaron_travel.php - once you there if you want to participate by sending my your own travel story I'll be glad to include you. Mark Lowell Fitt wrote: --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Allan, That is the plan, but I am in the middle of getting ready for the wedding of my youngest son in Orlando Florida Saturday - we are leaving for there tomorrow morning. Then on return, I have to somehow convert my hangar to an open house venue which we will have here in Cameron Park - I live in a residential airpark. The formal reception will be in St. Augustine, Florida. This summer has been one event after another - busy. In short for now, we flew a northern route out. following is the itinerary Westbound: Cameron Park CA - Lovelock, NV - Elko, NV where Hal joined us in his Rans S-6 - Afton Wyoming where we overnighted. Afton, WY- Worland, WY - New Castle, WY - New Castle, WY - Wall, SD where we overnighted Wall, SD - Pierre, SD - Chamberlain, SD - Fairmont, MN - Reedsburg, WS - OSH The Return: Osh - Fairmont, MN - Mitchell, SD where we overnighted. Mitchell, SD - Custer, SD, Casper, Wy - Evanston, WY where we spent the night. Evanston - Elko, NV - Cameron Park, CA The winds were in our face big time across Wyoming and there was a little grumbling about the "Southern Route" home. While at Casper, some of the guys wanted to have lunch - it was about 1 pm and others wanted to press on. I was with the group that continued without lunch and we saw ground speeds in the low 60s but we got into Evanston about 1730. The others saw ground speeds in the 40s and had stop one additional time for fuel and arrived at Evanston at 2130. This was not a fun day. After spending 46 hours in that little airplane and 9 days camping out of it, it has been only one day and I am already wanting to fly. More later. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Aaron" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron" > > > Lowell > > Are you planning to do a write up of your trip - route, learnings, etc? > Would be great to see it. > > Allan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell > Fitt > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" > > Darrel, > > We left for Oshkosh one day before your e-mail post. We camped in > General Aviation Camping to be closer to town and the more reasonable > eating. We were fortunate enough to be on the same row as the showers. > > Home now after putting 46 hours on the old KF. Got in about 3:00 pm > local time. Had a great time, but rushed out as I have to be in > Orlando Thursday for a son's wedding and didn't know how the weather > gods would look at us on our way home. Actually took only three days, > though. We went in as a flight of eight - all from the West Coast.. > > Sorry I missed you and some of the others. > > Lowell > > --------------------------------- Jos M. Toro, P.E. Computer Systems Validation Engineer Eli-Lilly PR05 --------------------------------- == == == ==


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    Time: 04:26:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Oshkosh anybody?
    From: "Allan Aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au> Congratulations on your son's wedding! I remember several of the locations you trekked through on your trip. Sounds tiring but lots of fun! Allan -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com> Allan, That is the plan, but I am in the middle of getting ready for the wedding of my youngest son in Orlando Florida Saturday - we are leaving for there tomorrow morning. Then on return, I have to somehow convert my hangar to an open house venue which we will have here in Cameron Park - I live in a residential airpark. The formal reception will be in St. Augustine, Florida. This summer has been one event after another - busy. In short for now, we flew a northern route out. following is the itinerary Westbound: Cameron Park CA - Lovelock, NV - Elko, NV where Hal joined us in his Rans S-6 - Afton Wyoming where we overnighted. Afton, WY- Worland, WY - New Castle, WY - New Castle, WY - Wall, SD where we overnighted Wall, SD - Pierre, SD - Chamberlain, SD - Fairmont, MN - Reedsburg, WS - OSH The Return: Osh - Fairmont, MN - Mitchell, SD where we overnighted. Mitchell, SD - Custer, SD, Casper, Wy - Evanston, WY where we spent the night. Evanston - Elko, NV - Cameron Park, CA The winds were in our face big time across Wyoming and there was a little grumbling about the "Southern Route" home. While at Casper, some of the guys wanted to have lunch - it was about 1 pm and others wanted to press on. I was with the group that continued without lunch and we saw ground speeds in the low 60s but we got into Evanston about 1730. The others saw ground speeds in the 40s and had stop one additional time for fuel and arrived at Evanston at 2130. This was not a fun day. After spending 46 hours in that little airplane and 9 days camping out of it, it has been only one day and I am already wanting to fly. More later. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au> > > > Lowell > > Are you planning to do a write up of your trip - route, learnings, etc? > Would be great to see it. > > Allan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell > Fitt > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody? > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com> > > Darrel, > > We left for Oshkosh one day before your e-mail post. We camped in > General Aviation Camping to be closer to town and the more reasonable > eating. We were fortunate enough to be on the same row as the showers. > > Home now after putting 46 hours on the old KF. Got in about 3:00 pm > local time. Had a great time, but rushed out as I have to be in > Orlando Thursday for a son's wedding and didn't know how the weather > gods would look at us on our way home. Actually took only three days, > though. We went in as a flight of eight - all from the West Coast.. > > Sorry I missed you and some of the others. > > Lowell > > == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == ==


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    Time: 06:07:27 PM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: Re: NSI Oil Seal
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> Thanks for the great tutorial Rick. It went like clockwork. I'll do up a report when I have a few extra minutes. Darrel > You will need a puller. The NSI pulley is aluminum so be careful. There are > threaded holes in the pulley, cant remember most likely standard not metric > since it is NSI not Subaru. Those can be used with a simple puller. Be sure > you get the keyway lined up on install and use flange sealant per manual on > the bolt. Lube the seal inside not outside, use a large socket to set it > even. Take your time. Get a step stool, mirror if need be and light. If you > need any further I would be glad to help. > > Rick N656T > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fox5flyer > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Oil Seal > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > Thanks Rick. When I said "rear seal" I meant at the firewall end, which is > actually the front seal, but only if it's sitting in a car, but it's not a > car, it's in an airplane, so I'm calling it the rear seal. We confused yet? > Anyway, you say I can replace it without removing the engine? That would > sure be nice. Have you done it? Seems pretty tight back there. Don't I > need to use a puller to get the pulley off? I've found the part number so > I'll check NAPA for the part. I've also found an online Soob parts dealer > that has it in stock. Shipping is more than the cost of the seal. I may > just order it anyway so it'll be here when I get back from the Mecca. > Darrel > > > > The rear main seal is the large one on the flywheel end. The front seal > is > > the small one on the end towards the aircraft firewall, neither of which > do > > you need to remove the engine for. You will need to pull the flywheel if > it > > the rear seal, no big deal. You will also need the special puller to > remove > > the small redrive gear from the crank to remove the redrive. Then its a > > simple matter of removing the seal and putting in the new. You may even be > > able to get a slightly larger seal from a seal manufacturer. Give them the > > part number for the seal on you "dune buggy" and tell them you need the > seal > > a thou or two larger O.D. > > > > Rick N656T > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Peter > > Graichen > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Oil Seal > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com> > > > > Darrel: > > The oil seal is available from your friendly Subaru dealer's parts > > department. You can look up the part number in your Subaru manual. But you > > should also install the oil seal retainer that is (or was) available from > > Joshie and Noel Simmons of Blue Sky Aviation. That will solve your problem > > for good as has for me. Hope to see you at Oshkosh. > > > > Peter Graichen > > http://home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fox5flyer > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI Oil Seal > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> > > > > I went flying this morning for St Helens MI to have breakfast and and only > > got about ten miles before I smelled smoke (not good) so I turned around > and > > went back home. After popping the cowling I found that my rear main oil > > seal was suddenly leaking badly so I'm grounded for awhile until I can > pull > > the engine out and replace it. I'm off to Oshkosh in the morning so it'll > > have to wait. > > My question is can anybody give me the part number for the seal? Funny > how > > it can suddenly start spewing oil like that. Maybe it popped out? Any > > input? > > Darrel > > S5/NSI/CAP > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:17:49 PM PST US
    From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Rotax 582 idle
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com> I tried to turn my idle speed (1800) down to eliminate "FLOAT" on landings and the engine shakes and shudders so bad at 1650 that I think it will jump off the mount !!! What can I do to smoothen it out???? My 582 always needs 3,000 RPM first up and then after a flight sometimes it will run nice at 2,000 RPM. I guess it does float a bit at times but it's not too bad. I certainly won't let it run shaking. That's looking for lots of trouble in my book. I read somewhere that these motors idle really sweet without the prop because they are two strokes. This means they hunt and the fact the prop doesn't want to follow is the cause of the shaking. Yes carefull tuning helped mine but the next time it's different. I imagine a clutch would work wonders. Re running without a prop the Rotax manuals say don't do it due to risk of explosion. I take this to be due to the very light flywheel allowing the revs to climb instantly. So by all means try tuning but I think we are all pretty well stuck with it other than fitting a clutch. Not really a problem though in my book. I do have the speedster wing perhaps that doesn't float as bad although it is still a 32ft wing. Rex. rexjan@bigpond.com


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    Time: 06:55:56 PM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
    Subject: NSI Oil Seal Replacement Update
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> Ok it's done. The new crank seal is in place, engine has been run up to temp, and no apparent leaks, so I think I'm good to go for a test flight. Thanks much to Rick for his help because without it I'd have probably pulled the engine which would have been a lot more work, unnecessarily. I was able to dive into the job knowing exactly what to expect and everything went exactly as expected. Also, thanks to Don Lorenzen for the retainer he made for me. It fit perfectly. The NSI engine isn't vented because it uses crankcase pressure pulses to push the unpressurized oil back up to the oil tank. Because of this the internal pressure tries to push out the crank seal, which in a few cases, such as mine, it has succeeded. Fortunately it can't push out all the way without running into the pulley so it's not a real big deal if you aren't far from home. The oil doesn't gush out, it just dribbles a little, which is enough to make a small mess and some smoke. The retainer prevents this from happening ever again and the seal should be good to go until overhaul time. For anyone who wants one of these retainers, Don is the person to contact. He may still have some. Had I thought of it earlier I'd have taken a picture of it and put it on Sportflight, but it never entered my mind. I don't know if he's still on the list or not, but he lives in Missoula Montana. I have his address if anyone wants it. Don, are you with us? Darrel S5/NSI 100hp/CAP


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    Time: 06:59:53 PM PST US
    From: Lmar <my93avid@yahoo.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lmar <my93avid@yahoo.com> Rex, Go ahead and adjust the idle to 1600ish. Yes it will shake at that, but simple forward the throttle to what ever it needs to be smooth on the ground. When you have airspeed, the idle will be higher due to the prop motion increasing it. That is why you float - the airspeed increases the rpm and thus in the air an idle setting is increased significantly. I am not sure how low my ground idle is set, as unless the engine is hot, it will not idle unless I add a bit of throttle to bring it to 2000ish. In the air, while flaring, I do have 2000+ rpm due to the airspeed. Once stopped, I have to forward the throttle again. Try it and see how you like it. Larry ---------------------------------


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    Time: 06:59:53 PM PST US
    From: Lmar <my93avid@yahoo.com>
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lmar <my93avid@yahoo.com> Rex, Go ahead and adjust the idle to 1600ish. Yes it will shake at that, but simple forward the throttle to what ever it needs to be smooth on the ground. When you have airspeed, the idle will be higher due to the prop motion increasing it. That is why you float - the airspeed increases the rpm and thus in the air an idle setting is increased significantly. I am not sure how low my ground idle is set, as unless the engine is hot, it will not idle unless I add a bit of throttle to bring it to 2000ish. In the air, while flaring, I do have 2000+ rpm due to the airspeed. Once stopped, I have to forward the throttle again. Try it and see how you like it. Larry ---------------------------------


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    Time: 07:12:40 PM PST US
    From: <kirkhull@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: W/B question
    --> Kitfox-List message posted by: <kirkhull@sbcglobal.net> The 1 degree of the wing should not chance your CG calc. I dont have my #s as I was just doing a test weight with no fabric on the fusc to see where to but the battery to ballance the heavier engine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: W/B question > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com> > > I'm doing my W/B next weekend and needed to know what the 1 degree swept > wings does to the calculations. Does the Datum change? Does the C-G envelope > change? Maybe Kurt, you could post your numbers for a reference as we are > very similar. > > Also, users with LP bubble doors, do you know of any vents that can be > installed on the slightly curved surface? My cabin is very sealed and I see > I'm going to need air coming in... > >


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    Time: 07:32:12 PM PST US
    From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
    Subject: I just got back from Oshkosh and when I asked for Ed
    they said he was --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net> I also read the news release about Ed Downs starting AmericanSportFlying.com. I, too, am having trouble visualizing how and what they will be doing. It sounds like they will be referring people interested in the Sport Pilot aspect of flying to other companies, sort of like a physician referral service. Making money from a website is pretty tough. I know that from experience. I wish Ed good luck in his new job. He is a smart guy, and would not be making this move it he did not believe that he could make a living. I wish Skystar good luck too. They just keep getting leaner and leaner. The past 5 years have not been good for them. Don Pearsall




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