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1. 01:05 AM - Re: Sportpilot Insurance (Michael Gibbs)
2. 03:26 AM - SV: Pulling or pushing? (Michel Verheughe)
3. 03:30 AM - Re: NSI Oil Seal Replacement Update (Fox5flyer)
4. 06:12 AM - Re: Bulging header tank (flier)
5. 07:57 AM - Re: Bulging header tank (Paul)
6. 07:57 AM - Re: Bulging header tank (Paul)
7. 07:58 AM - Re: Re: (kitfoxjunky)
8. 08:29 AM - Re: Pulling or pushing? (Bruce Harrington)
9. 08:43 AM - Carb rebuilding rotax 912. Any tips? (tom)
10. 08:57 AM - Re: Carb rebuilding rotax 912. Any tips? (Steve Magdic)
11. 10:52 AM - Mountain flight (John Oakley)
12. 11:29 AM - Re: Championship rules. WAS: News from the north (Michel Verheughe)
13. 11:34 AM - Re: OFF TOPIC: News from the "other" North (Michel Verheughe)
14. 11:40 AM - Re: Pulling or pushing? (Michel Verheughe)
15. 12:19 PM - Re: Mountain flight (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
16. 12:59 PM - Re: Sportpilot Insurance (gjglh@itlnet.net)
17. 01:01 PM - Re: Re: (John E. King)
18. 01:09 PM - 912 Charging System? (Steve Magdic)
19. 01:27 PM - Re: 912 Charging System? (John Oakley)
20. 01:32 PM - Re: Sportpilot Insurance (Steve Cooper)
21. 01:41 PM - Re: 912 Charging System? (Steve Magdic)
22. 02:14 PM - How many lawyers does it take to... (Fox5flyer)
23. 03:35 PM - Re: OT: News from the north (Torgeir Mortensen)
24. 03:50 PM - Re: OFF TOPIC: News from the "other" North (Torgeir Mortensen)
25. 07:49 PM - You don't need insurance to fly your Kitfox. (Don't put a bullseye on your (Rex & Jan Shaw)
26. 11:06 PM - Re: Sportpilot Insurance (Bruce Harrington)
27. 11:54 PM - SV: You don't need insurance to fly your Kitfox. (Don't put a bullseye on your (Michel Verheughe)
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| Subject: | Re: Sportpilot Insurance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Steve sez:
>You don't need insurance to fly your Kitfox. (Don't put a bullseye on your
>back for the lawyers!)
It's only safe to fly without liability insurance if you don't have
anything that anyone else wants (or you never have accidents). If
you have few enough assets that you are "under the radar" of an
attorney, i.e., you aren't worth pursuing, that strategy can work.
But, if you are attractive to them, having insurance could mean the
difference between someone else paying them off and having a
judgement come out of your own pocket.
As Steve indicated, it's up to each of us to decide.
Mike G.
N728KF
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| Subject: | Pulling or pushing? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Bruce Harrington [aerowood@mcsi.net]
> Stopped prop will have better glide ratio due to less drag.
> Unless the idle rpm is 2000 or above! (I think)
Thanks Jerry, Bruce and Steve.
This morning, I took my calculator and did a quick calculation (which may be wrong,
please check my figures). If I fly say, 55 MPH, it means about 52,800 inches
per minute. At, say 2,100 RPM, my prop (3:1 gear) will turn at 700 RPM. It
means that:
If my prop pitch is less than 75 inches, it will create drag.
If my prop pitch is more than 75 inches, it will create lift.
Does this make sense?
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: NSI Oil Seal Replacement Update |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Good info Kurt. The turbo and normally aspirated are both EA81 engines as I
understand, but I wasn't aware that your's was vented. You'll probably
never have a problem with the seal in that case. Last night I went out for
the shakedown cruise and all is well. Thanks for the help. It was only
about ten days down time, but it seemed like forever.
Darrel
> Thanks for all the useful info Darrel. It explains a
> lot for me.
>
> First, I just found out that the oil seal
> retainer/cover pics are already on SportFlight. They
> are under "improvements".
>
> I have been worrying about that seal on my own plane
> since before the FAA signoff. But I didn't know that
> other NSI engines were different and used the
> crankcase pressure to move the oil to the remote tank.
>
> Mine seems to be a combined system - a breather off
> the engine heads, the old auto oil pan, but with the
> oil pan to tank line still installed. This was
> supposed to be a breather drain line, but it didn't
> work that way. It is where my oil was being blown out
> the pan and out the breather by crankcase pressure. I
> have changed it to a straight breather system and
> capped off the oil pan line. Ground checks OK. I'll
> soon know if that works in flight.
>
> With my crankcase pressure relieved, I hope not to
> need the seal retainer now. We'll see how that works
> too.
>
> It is interesting how the seal will blow out, but not
> the friction fit dipstick that sees the same crankcase
> pressure (at least on my engine).
>
> Kurt S. N-5/NSI turbo
>
> --- Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> wrote:
>
> > Ok it's done. The new crank seal is in place,
> > engine has been run up to
> > temp, and no apparent leaks, so I think I'm good to
> > go for a test flight.
>
>
> __________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Bulging header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
I've built several alum tanks in the past but the
problem comes down to the subject of the recent
insurance thread that's floating around -- liability.
When you boil it down, an alum tank that replicates
the stock tank is about $20 of material, an hour of
work on a lathe to make the fittings, and an hour of
TIG time. The ones I did sold for $125. But, my
council had a fit. It's really too bad that so much
of what we can do is limited by our wonderful
liability laws. I only wish more people took
responsibility for their actions and there were less
attorneys. We'd have a lot more certificated light
aircraft sitting around anyway.
Regards,
Ted
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| Subject: | Re: Bulging header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul <pwilson@climber.org>
Thanks for the input
Paul
===========
At 10:18 PM -0700 8/4/04, kurt schrader wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
>Hi Paul,
>
>There are pics of Tom Anderson's alum header tank on
>SportFlight under "gotta-haves". Rick Chandler also
>added his pics under "add-ons/modifications". I don't
>remember who made the tanks for Tom and Rick, but they
>paid about $300. It was Tom's design.
>
>I strengthened my seatbelt attachments and ran the
>left wing tank fuel line down to the bottom of the
>header to use as a header site gauge, so I had to
>design a slightly narrower tank for myself. I did a
>lot of poster board bending until I got what I wanted,
>then bent it up out of .050 T5051 alum from ACS. It
>was about $200 that way with fittings welded in.
>
>I forget how much it weighed, but it was a lot better
>than I thought it would be. You have to account for
>the extra fuel weight there though.
>
>One thing I did which has proven useful. I painted
>the tank exterior with red paint that desolves in
>fuel. It quickly found 3 fuel seeps for me at several
>welds. Otherwise the fuel evaporates off the tank and
>the leaks are harder to find.
>
>Tom or Rick should know who to call if you want the
>standard Tom A. designed tank.
>
>Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
>
>--- Paul <pwilson@climber.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kurt,
>> I guess I have not been paying close attention. Who
>> makes the Al tank and what is the cost.
> > Thanks, Paul
--
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| Subject: | Re: Bulging header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul <pwilson@climber.org>
Thanks for the input
Paul
At 9:11 AM -0500 8/5/04, flier wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
>
>I've built several alum tanks in the past but the
>problem comes down to the subject of the recent
>insurance thread that's floating around -- liability.
>
>When you boil it down, an alum tank that replicates
>the stock tank is about $20 of material, an hour of
>work on a lathe to make the fittings, and an hour of
>TIG time. The ones I did sold for $125. But, my
>council had a fit. It's really too bad that so much
>of what we can do is limited by our wonderful
>liability laws. I only wish more people took
>responsibility for their actions and there were less
>attorneys. We'd have a lot more certificated light
>aircraft sitting around anyway.
>
>Regards,
>
>Ted
--
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10:58:12 AM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxjunky" <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Thanks John. Rotec Researce in BC is selling overhaulded slipper clutches
for the 912 and 912S for only $ 500 CDN. That does not include
installation, but it was a good deal so I bought it and my engine is now
being updated. I spoke to Lockwood, and they recommended the updated
starter too. That was $ 240 USD with the old one on exchange. They say
the new starter turns the engine a lot faster, and ensures that it starts
clean with less stress on the airframe.
Good meeting you at Oshkosh. Would like to know more about the prop you are
running on your plane.
Gary Walsh
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
"John E. King "
<kingjohn@erols.com> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent by: cc:
owner-kitfox-list-server@ma Subject: Kitfox-List:
Re:
tronics.com
08/02/2004 07:58 PM
Please respond to
kitfox-list
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
Gary and Robert,
Rotax is giving a special deal for those who own a 912S that does not
have a slipper clutch. Lockwood installed my slipper clutch and
exchanged my starter for the heavy duty starter for only $800. I
shipped them the gear box and the original starter and they returned the
gear box with the new clutch installed and the new starter within a
week. Call Lockwood and see if the offer still exists.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by:
>
>From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
>To: "'kitfox-list@matronics.com'" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> cost?
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912S - Is the slipper clutch worth the
> cos t?
>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:53:10 -0700
>
>Nice website Gary,
>
>Do you have puddle jumper floats on your plane?
>
>Robert
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxjunky
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912S - Is the slipper clutch worth the cost?
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxjunky"
><kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>
>I have my Rotax 912S in for inspection. The shop doing the work has
>recommended that I install the slipper clutch. They say that this really
>smooths out the engine, especially at lower RPM, and will help reduce
>problems I have had with the exhaust cracking due to vibration. My Fox is
>up high, on anphib floats, so the chance of a prop strike is minimal,
which
>is why I was not too concerned about not having the clutch.
>
>The cost is about $ 1000, but the shop says they have a slightly used one
>they can install for $ 600. Is it worth it?
>
>
>Gary Walsh
>C-GOOT
>www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pulling or pushing? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
Hi Michel,
Yes. However, is your rpm really that slow on final down to flare and
touchdown?
Mine was always higher than 2100 with idle set around 1700.
55 mph is 4,840 fpm, or 58,080 ipm. 2100 rpm -> 700 prop rpm -> 83 " pitch.
3000 rpm -> 1000 prop rpm -> 58" pitch.
Then there's the question of at what rpm and speed does the prop produce zero
drag????
bh
> Thanks Jerry, Bruce and Steve.
> This morning, I took my calculator and did a quick calculation (which may be
wrong, please check my figures). If I fly say, 55 MPH, it means about 52,800
inches per minute. At, say 2,100 RPM, my prop (3:1 gear) will turn at 700 RPM.
It means that:
> If my prop pitch is less than 75 inches, it will create drag.
> If my prop pitch is more than 75 inches, it will create lift.
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
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| Subject: | Carb rebuilding rotax 912. Any tips? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: tom <ditapo@yahoo.com>
My engine was running rough so I've discovered that one carb was not working properly.
So time to rebuild. Any tips? I do have a manual but it gives limited
detail. I've thought of sending them out but that is the wimpy and expensive way
out. Somebody told me that the real bush pilots I look up to can fix thier
own planes. haha
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| Subject: | Carb rebuilding rotax 912. Any tips? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Magdic" <steve.magdic@1psg.com>
What, exactly, did you find wrong with your carb??
Rebuild kits are readily available and rather easy
to install. I've done some replacement of parts on
my 912 without incident.
Steve M.
-----Original Message-----
From: tom [mailto:ditapo@yahoo.com]
Subject: Kitfox-List: Carb rebuilding rotax 912. Any tips?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: tom <ditapo@yahoo.com>
My engine was running rough so I've discovered that one carb was not working properly.
So time to rebuild. Any tips? I do have a manual but it gives limited
detail. I've thought of sending them out but that is the wimpy and expensive way
out. Somebody told me that the real bush pilots I look up to can fix thier
own planes. haha
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
Hi Kids,
Last Saturday I left Idaho Falls and climbed to 11000 feet and headed north.
My wife and I flew along side the continental Divide for a hundred and fifty
miles or so overflying streams, snow and lakes with fish jumping. We made a
turn at Salmon headed west, and around the Big Horn Craig's then jumping
over the middle fork of the Salmon River and on to the main Salmon. At this
point my wife said several times that This was the river of no return and
now knows why it is called that, there is no place to land, there's no place
to land. I told her we were not in Kansas any more Todo.
We started descending and dropped to 8500 feet over cold meadows and over
flew and landed at Chamberlain Basin, 2 and 1/2 hours and 12 gal of fuel. We
spent the night with a couple we know from the west side of the state. They
had brought his and her planes, a stenson and a Cessna 170. Brought lots of
food and we ate it all. The local ranger looked at the kitfox and said she
could not believe the stuff we brought in it. humm, maybe that's why it came
in fast.
My wife had a hard time sleeping because no car sounds and the local wolf
were partying up on the ridge.
Sunday morning we headed out to the town of salmon to fuel and sight see
all the way home, breakfast here lunch there.
After 12 years on the list and over a thousand hours in fox I still smile
when I look across the bottom of my wing and think of the building
experience. I hope that all of you can feel this same high.
John Oakley
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| Subject: | Re: Championship rules. WAS: News from the north |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Mark Schindler wrote:
> On my website www.avidflyeraircraft.com if you scroll down to 1/30/04 there is a link to
> World Microlight Championship - 2003
Thanks Mark. I downloaded the PDF file and it was very interesting. Not sure
I'll manage that kind of navigation test but who cares? The fun is being part
of it.
On the subject, last summer I was at another annual fly-in and asked to
participate to the precision landing competition. I try to decline since I had
my license for only a couple of weeks and was happy to land alive, at all, less
to land with precision on the white line.
But I did my traffic pattern, came in for landing ... saw the line ... lots of
people on the runway's shoulder ... flared ... Damn! Where is the line? How can
you see a line on the runway when you land a taildragger? Needless to say, I
failed entirely but ... it was great fun to participate!
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: OFF TOPIC: News from the "other" North |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Scott McClintock wrote:
> Those of us with "experimentals" were not allowed to participate as the
> Russians don't understand us (or our planes).
I heard the same about Europe, Scott. Never fly abroad saying that you are
experimental. The locals get easily suspicious. Don't say you are microlight
either. My instructor was in Italy with his Sky Arrow microlight and when he
wanted to go home, he couldn't cross the border; Italian microlights are not
allowed to leave the country. Yes, I know, he was Norwegian but he had to land,
talk to the ATC guys on the phone, in order to cross the border.
The bottom line is: Say as little as possible. Like: On a need to know only! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Pulling or pushing? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Bruce Harrington wrote:
> Yes. However, is your rpm really that slow on final down to flare and
> touchdown?
I wouldn't know, Bruce: From flare to full stop, I concentrate at staying ahead
of the plane and never look at any instrument. But I am pretty sure you are
right, I am much over 2,100 RPM on landing, ... only that 2,100 was easy to
divide by three, for the sake of the example! :-)
> Then there's the question of at what rpm and speed does the prop produce zero
> drag????
Yes, and I don't know what my pitch is in inches but with 14 degrees at 75% of
my 64 inches diameter prop, I am pretty sure it is below 75 inches pitch and
therefore I conclude that yes, even with the engine idle revving, the prop must
give some extra power forward.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Mountain flight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
John, good to hear about your weekend. We have made a similar loop, clockwise,
several times. Jerome, Smiley Creek, Bruce Meadows, Sulpher Creek, Johnson Creek,
Big Creek, Chamberlain Basin, Etc. We were never too concerned about places
to land, it was the take off run that looked questionable.(:p
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley"
>
>
> Hi Kids,
> Last Saturday I left Idaho Falls and climbed to 11000 feet and headed north.
> My wife and I flew along side the continental Divide for a hundred and fifty
> miles or so overflying streams, snow and lakes with fish jumping. We made a
> turn at Salmon headed west, and around the Big Horn Craig's then jumping
> over the middle fork of the Salmon River and on to the main Salmon. At this
> point my wife said several times that This was the river of no return and
> now knows why it is called that, there is no place to land, there's no place
> to land. I told her we were not in Kansas any more Todo.
> We started descending and dropped to 8500 feet over cold meadows and over
> flew and landed at Chamberlain Basin, 2 and 1/2 hours and 12 gal of fuel. We
> spent the night with a couple we know from the west side of the state. They
> had brought his and her planes, a stenson and a Cessna 170. Brought lots of
> food and we ate it all. The local ranger looked at the kitfox and said she
> could not believe the stuff we brought in it. humm, maybe that's why it came
> in fast.
> My wife had a hard time sleeping because no car sounds and the local wolf
> were partying up on the ridge.
> Sunday morning we headed out to the town of salmon to fuel and sight see
> all the way home, breakfast here lunch there.
>
> After 12 years on the list and over a thousand hours in fox I still smile
> when I look across the bottom of my wing and think of the building
> experience. I hope that all of you can feel this same high.
>
> John Oakley
>
>
>
>
>
>
John, good to hear about your weekend. We have made a similar loop, clockwise,
several times. Jerome, Smiley Creek, Bruce Meadows, Sulpher Creek, Johnson Creek,
Big Creek, Chamberlain Basin, Etc. We were never too concerned about places
to land, it was the take off run that looked questionable.(:p
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <JOAKLEY@IDA.NET>
Hi Kids,
Last Saturday I left Idaho Falls and climbed to 11000 feet and headed north.
My wife and I flew along side the continental Divide for a hundred and fifty
miles or so overflying streams, snow and lakes with fish jumping. We made a
turn at Salmon headed west, and around the Big Horn Craig's then jumping
over the middle fork of the Salmon River and on to the main Salmon. At this
point my wife said several times that This was the river of no return and
now knows why it is called that, there is no place to land, there's no place
to land. I told her we were not in Kansas any more Todo.
We started descending and dropped to 8500 feet over cold meadows and
over
flew and landed at Chamberlain Basin, 2 and 1/2 hours and 12 gal of fuel. We
spent the night with a couple we know from the west side of the state. They
had brought his and her planes, a stenson and a Cessna 170. Brought lots of
food and we ate it all. The local ranger looked at the kitfox and said she
could not believe the stuff we brought in it. humm, maybe that's why it came
in fast.
My wife had a hard time sleeping because no car sounds and the local wolf
were partying up on the ridge.
Sunday morning we headed out to the town of salmon to fuel and sight see
all the way home, breakfast here lunch there.
After 12 years on the list and over a thousand hours in fox I still smile
when I look across the bottom of my wing and think of the building
experience. I hope that all of you can feel this same high.
John Oakley
w.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list
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| Subject: | Re: Sportpilot Insurance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: gjglh@itlnet.net
Some of us poor Kitfox fliers finance our planes and need insurance.
In speaking with my insurance company it was stated that if you can't
get a medical you might not get insurance. I guess I really can't
blame them.
Gary spdster912ls
---- Original Message ----
From: spdrflyr@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sportpilot Insurance
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
><spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sportpilot Insurance
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>>
>> In a message dated 8/4/04 8:27:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> spdrflyr@earthlink.net writes:
>>
>>
>> > You don't need insurance to fly your Kitfox. (Don't put a
>bullseye on
>your
>> > back for the lawyers!)
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>>
>> Interesting that insurance comes up with the sport pilot rating...I
>agree
>> that you don't have to have hull insurance but I would guess that
>liability
>> insurance is still required?
>>
>> Don Smythe
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>Don, Unless your Airport/Hangar requires insurance you don't need
>it. Where
>I am hangared they do not require it...yet. I won't have any
>insurance until
>they make it a requirement. But that's just the way MY brain
>works...to each
>his own.
>
>Steve
>
>
>=====
>=====
>=====
>=====
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
Gary,
The prop on my Series 6 Kitfox is a three bladed in-flight adjustable
PropLink hydraulic hub with 68" Warp Drive blades. The prop pitch is
controlled by a vernier control on the panel. The web site for the
PropLink Hub is <http://www.proplink.org/>.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
kitfoxjunky wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxjunky" <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>
>
>Thanks John. Rotec Researce in BC is selling overhaulded slipper clutches
>for the 912 and 912S for only $ 500 CDN. That does not include
>installation, but it was a good deal so I bought it and my engine is now
>being updated. I spoke to Lockwood, and they recommended the updated
>starter too. That was $ 240 USD with the old one on exchange. They say
>the new starter turns the engine a lot faster, and ensures that it starts
>clean with less stress on the airframe.
>
>Good meeting you at Oshkosh. Would like to know more about the prop you are
>running on your plane.
>
>Gary Walsh
>C-GOOT
>www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
>
>
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
>
>Gary and Robert,
>
>Rotax is giving a special deal for those who own a 912S that does not
>have a slipper clutch. Lockwood installed my slipper clutch and
>exchanged my starter for the heavy duty starter for only $800. I
>shipped them the gear box and the original starter and they returned the
>gear box with the new clutch installed and the new starter within a
>week. Call Lockwood and see if the offer still exists.
>
>--
>John King
>Warrenton, VA
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 912 Charging System? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Magdic" <steve.magdic@1psg.com>
Help needed from the list electricians!
I have been experiencing dry battery syndrome lately.
My model 3 has a 912 that starts immediately upon
keyturn, however, after a week or two it fails to
start. I check the battery and it's bone dry. No cracks
or leaks detected. My ammeter shows about 15 volts
at full throttle. I have refilled the battery with the proper
acid solution and it works just fine... for a week or so.
Am I cooking the juice right out of this thing? Could my
rectifier/regulator be bad?
Thanks,
Electrically Challenged Steve M.
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| Subject: | 912 Charging System? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
Steve, you are in need of a new regulator. 15 v is to high for a lead acid.
there are many after market ones around.
John Oakley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Magdic
Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 Charging System?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Magdic" <steve.magdic@1psg.com>
Help needed from the list electricians!
I have been experiencing dry battery syndrome lately.
My model 3 has a 912 that starts immediately upon
keyturn, however, after a week or two it fails to
start. I check the battery and it's bone dry. No cracks
or leaks detected. My ammeter shows about 15 volts
at full throttle. I have refilled the battery with the proper
acid solution and it works just fine... for a week or so.
Am I cooking the juice right out of this thing? Could my
rectifier/regulator be bad?
Thanks,
Electrically Challenged Steve M.
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| Subject: | Re: Sportpilot Insurance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
...then buy the Sport Pilot INsurance. ...no medical required. (...but
never, under any circumstances allow yourself to be denied a class III by
the Feds.)
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: <gjglh@itlnet.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sportpilot Insurance
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: gjglh@itlnet.net
>
> Some of us poor Kitfox fliers finance our planes and need insurance.
> In speaking with my insurance company it was stated that if you can't
> get a medical you might not get insurance. I guess I really can't
> blame them.
> Gary spdster912ls
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: spdrflyr@earthlink.net
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sportpilot Insurance
> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 21:10:26 -0700
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
> ><spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sportpilot Insurance
> >
> >
> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
> >>
> >> In a message dated 8/4/04 8:27:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> >> spdrflyr@earthlink.net writes:
> >>
> >>
> >> > You don't need insurance to fly your Kitfox. (Don't put a
> >bullseye on
> >your
> >> > back for the lawyers!)
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >>
> >> Interesting that insurance comes up with the sport pilot rating...I
> >agree
> >> that you don't have to have hull insurance but I would guess that
> >liability
> >> insurance is still required?
> >>
> >> Don Smythe
> >> DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >>
> >Don, Unless your Airport/Hangar requires insurance you don't need
> >it. Where
> >I am hangared they do not require it...yet. I won't have any
> >insurance until
> >they make it a requirement. But that's just the way MY brain
> >works...to each
> >his own.
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >=====
> >=====
> >=====
> >=====
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | 912 Charging System? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Magdic" <steve.magdic@1psg.com>
Thanks John. You've confirmed my suspicions.
A new regulator it is.
Steve M.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Oakley [mailto:joakley@ida.net]
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 Charging System?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
Steve, you are in need of a new regulator. 15 v is to high for a lead acid.
there are many after market ones around.
John Oakley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Magdic
Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 Charging System?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Magdic" <steve.magdic@1psg.com>
Help needed from the list electricians!
I have been experiencing dry battery syndrome lately.
My model 3 has a 912 that starts immediately upon
keyturn, however, after a week or two it fails to
start. I check the battery and it's bone dry. No cracks
or leaks detected. My ammeter shows about 15 volts
at full throttle. I have refilled the battery with the proper
acid solution and it works just fine... for a week or so.
Am I cooking the juice right out of this thing? Could my
rectifier/regulator be bad?
Thanks,
Electrically Challenged Steve M.
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| Subject: | How many lawyers does it take to... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Ted, I understand where you are coming from. This is a litigious society
that has evolved because (as you stated) we have way too many lawyers who
are always looking for a way to make a buck. Then again, who isn't.
However, if it were me and my lawyer told me that I'd be looking for a new
one. If we all listened to the lawyers the experimental movement would
never have gotten off the ground.
Darrel
> I've built several alum tanks in the past but the
> problem comes down to the subject of the recent
> insurance thread that's floating around -- liability.
>
> When you boil it down, an alum tank that replicates
> the stock tank is about $20 of material, an hour of
> work on a lathe to make the fittings, and an hour of
> TIG time. The ones I did sold for $125. But, my
> council had a fit. It's really too bad that so much
> of what we can do is limited by our wonderful
> liability laws. I only wish more people took
> responsibility for their actions and there were less
> attorneys. We'd have a lot more certificated light
> aircraft sitting around anyway.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ted
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| Subject: | Re: OT: News from the north |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi Michel,
Ah. So now you'll have to book your plane in order to fly. :) Great that
your son is sharing your passion..
Tried to get some inf. about such a championship, but none of my friends
could find some more inf. about the type of event.
I've never done this kind of competition, so here I'm quite a novice.
BTW., tomorrow I'm going to France for one week vacation.
Cheers
Torgeir.
On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 23:42:43 +0200, Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> Torgeir Mortensen wrote:
>> Yes, this summer is quite extraordinary
>
> Glad to hear you have a nice summer and a lot of Kitfox flying, Torgeir.
> Apart from the week-end fly-in at Fyresdal, I have been mostly flying
> locally
> this summer. Getting friends up in the air and having my son working the
> plane
> for his license. Next on my agenda: The Norwegian championship for
> microlight
> the 28th and 29th August at Starmoen. I don't know exactly what it is
> because I
> have never done that before but I understand that there is a navigation
> test
> that is run in a large circle. Have you ever done that?
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: OFF TOPIC: News from the "other" North |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi Scott,
I've been reading about all the problems with tundra fires in Fairbanks
area.
I use to look at the different airstrip and must say it could be very
interesting flying my Kitfox in this great country. Over here, it's a
quite a similar terrain, however - much smaller than Alaska, of course.
Good thing that you'll soon be able to fly "the Artic Fox".
(PS, I'll like to see some of those pictures)
Cheers
Torgeir
On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 09:32:10 -0800, Scott McClintock
<scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock
> <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
>
> Michel & Torgeir and fellow listers:
>
> Yes, Alaska has been having a very warm summer too. Unfortunately, the
> heat and dryness has fostered ideal conditions for forest and tundra
> fires which we have had many. Over 5 million acres have burned this
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| Subject: | You don't need insurance to fly your Kitfox. (Don't put a |
bullseye on your
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
You don't need insurance to fly your Kitfox. (Don't put a bullseye on your
> back for the lawyers!)
In Australia our governing body for ultralights is Recreational Aviation
Australia. It was Australian Ultralight Federation until it changed name
very recently. Anyway as part of our licence we are covered for third party
liability for 1 million dollars. I figure this is very practical. Cost is
reasonable [part of licence cost]
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Re: Sportpilot Insurance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
The latest from Blakely at the FAA on denied medicals is that if you get a
special issuance medical certificate, then you can exercise the Sport Pilot
rating.
bh
"On the SP/LSA rule Blakey said, With one stroke of a pen weve made
recreational flying more fun, safer, and more affordable. At your request
getting wings just got to be considerably easier to do, and thats a wonderful
thing. Light sport aviation just got an important infusion of safety as well.
She went on to add, And I can tell you that the light sport aviation initiative
is important to the president as well, and when it came right down to it, it
helped to have a pilot in the White House.
Commenting on the final rule requirement that pilots who have been refused a
medical may not use their drivers license to medically qualify when operating
as a sport pilot, Blakey said, We decided that if we know an airman failed his
or her last medical, we couldnt just let that person use a drivers license
when operating as a sport pilot. That person will have to come back to the FAA
through an AME (aviation medical examiner) and meet the medical standards for a
special issuance [medical].
Blakey did add that any pilot now holding a special issuance medical certificate
does qualify under the SP/LSA rule."
> ...then buy the Sport Pilot INsurance. ...no medical required. (...but
> never, under any circumstances allow yourself to be denied a class III by
> the Feds.)
> Steve
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| Subject: | You don't need insurance to fly your Kitfox. (Don't put |
a bullseye on your
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Rex & Jan Shaw [rexjan@bigpond.com]
> Anyway as part of our licence we are covered for third party
> liability for 1 million dollars. I figure this is very practical. Cost is
> reasonable [part of licence cost]
It is the same in Norway, Rex. Very practical.
Cheers,
Michel
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