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1. 01:43 AM - SV: Tire & Wheel size (Michel Verheughe)
2. 03:50 AM - Re: Tire & Wheel size and Subaru performance (Fox5flyer)
3. 05:28 AM - Re: Tire & Wheel size (Vic Jacko)
4. 05:31 AM - Fw: Tire & Wheel size (Vic Jacko)
5. 05:32 AM - Fw: Tire & Wheel size (Vic Jacko)
6. 05:56 AM - SV: Tire & Wheel size (Michel Verheughe)
7. 06:07 AM - Re: ammeter installation (Marco Menezes)
8. 06:23 AM - Re: Tire & Wheel size and Subaru performance (Peter Graichen)
9. 08:04 AM - Homebuilder special tailwheel report (flier)
10. 11:03 AM - Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ?? (Grant Fluent)
11. 11:18 AM - Re: Oshkosh anybody? ()
12. 11:46 AM - Re: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ?? (jdmcbean)
13. 12:08 PM - Re: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ?? (Harris, Robert)
14. 12:13 PM - Spark Plugs (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
15. 12:56 PM - Re: Spark Plugs (Scott McClintock)
16. 01:08 PM - Re: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ?? (Jose M. Toro)
17. 01:33 PM - Re: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ?? (Aerobatics@aol.com)
18. 01:41 PM - Re: Spark Plugs (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
19. 01:51 PM - In Flight Adjustable Prop (Jimmie Blackwell)
20. 01:53 PM - Re: Spark Plugs (flier)
21. 02:24 PM - Spark Plugs (Scott McClintock)
22. 02:59 PM - Re: Sportpilot Insurance (Lowell Fitt)
23. 03:05 PM - Re: Spark Plugs (Jim Burke)
24. 03:05 PM - Re: Bulging header tank (Lowell Fitt)
25. 03:34 PM - Re: In Flight Adjustable Prop (Steve Cooper)
26. 03:36 PM - Re: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ?? (Lowell Fitt)
27. 03:43 PM - Re: Sportpilot Insurance (Steve Cooper)
28. 04:31 PM - Re: Tire & Wheel size and Subaru performance (Grant Fluent)
29. 04:50 PM - Re: Bulging header tank (Scott McClintock)
30. 05:37 PM - Can anyone please tell me what size wheel and tire were provided with the Model (Rex & Jan Shaw)
31. 06:23 PM - Fred Howes (Jimmie Blackwell)
32. 06:31 PM - Re: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ?? (gary)
33. 06:40 PM - Re: Sportpilot Insurance (Mark Schindler)
34. 06:44 PM - Re: Tire & Wheel size (Bob Unternaehrer)
35. 08:41 PM - Re: Spark Plugs (Bruce Harrington)
36. 09:35 PM - Re: Oshkosh anybody? (Jim Crowder)
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| Subject: | Tire & Wheel size |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Clem Nichols [cnichols@scrtc.com]
> My plane is presently equipped with tundra tires (22x 8.0-8), which I obviously
don't
> need for flying off a blacktop runway, and which obviously provide an excessive
> amount of drag.
Clem, I read a Norwegian article where the owner of a EuroCub (similar to Kitfox)
had changed his tundra tyres for some smaller ones and he couldn't notice more
than two knots speed increase. He went back to the tundras, feeling it safer
in case of emergency landing. The test was made by the president of the Norwegian
Microlight Association and I believe he is an experienced and serious
pilot.
Anyway, please, take this with a grain of salt, each homebuilt plane is different
and you may see a different performance increase with your plane.
Just my two cents,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Tire & Wheel size and Subaru performance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Those tundra tires are very tough and will give you a lot of service and I
doubt changing them out will give you much of an increase in speed, however
if that's what you want you shouldn't have much trouble finding someone to
take them off your hands.
I have the same engine package, but with the NSI electric prop (CAP) and I
cruise between 3800 and 3900 typically at 108 mph and 4gph. It's my opinion
that the prop makes all the difference in that I can get max performance
climb (5200) then on level off continue adding pitch and reducing throttle
while leaning until I get my desired manifold presssure and fuel burn for
cruise. I wouldn't do it any other way. By the numbers you're giving I
suspect you still don't have enough prop pitch. Makes a big difference.
Try experimenting by adding another degree of pitch so that you have about
4900 static which will increase to 5200 once your airspeed picks up.
Cruising at anything over 4000 just burns a lot of fuel and increases engine
wear. Better yet, maybe you can pick up a CAP somewhere used. Also, verify
your tach is reading correctly. Radio controlled airplane builders usually
have small hand held tachs that you can use to check this. Lastly, I don't
think adjusting your throttle linkage will help, but it may. Just be
careful with that part.
Darrel
S5/NSI/CAP
> Can anyone please tell me what size wheel and tire were provided with the
Model IV kits. My plane is presently equipped with tundra tires (22x
8.0-8), which I obviously don't need for flying off a blacktop runway, and
which obviously provide an excessive amount of drag. Also, I'd be
interested in knowing at what engine rpm those of you using an NSI Subaru
EA81 non turbo engine cruise, and also what is your maximum engine rpm at
full throttle. My setup is equipped with an Ellison TBI and a 3-blade Warp
Drive Prop (recently shortened from 70" to 68 1/2" in diameter because of my
less-than-perfect flying skills). I can get off the ground very quickly,
and my VSI shows close to 1000fpm on climbout at 70 mph, so I don't think
I'm over-pitched, but at full throttle straight-and-level, my tachometer is
only showing 5000 rpm. At 4200 rpm, my cruise speed is only about 80 mph
IAS. My plane is heavy at 820 pounds empty, but it has fairings on the lift
struts, and the only really!
> obvious drag-generator I can see are the tundra tires. At present, I
have about 13 1/2 degrees pitch in the prop. Obviously, increasing this
would help my cruise speed (at the expense of take-off distance and climb
rate), but would also tend to lower the engine rpm at full throttle. When I
pull the throttle all the way back, the engine idles at about 1200 rpm, and
I gather from earlier posts that this is not good on the PSRU. It's my
understanding that the maximum allowable speed on the Subaru is 5600 rpm,
and on the NSI conversion, at least, is rev limited. They say the maximum
continuous speed is 5500 rpm. Being mechanically challenged, I'm a little
reluctant to start changing a lot of things around. (Did I mention that I
bought the plane already built?) The engine runs very smoothly at 5000 rpm,
and I can't help but think that a simple adjustment of the throttle linkage
on the Ellison unit might take care of at least a part of my problem, but I
wanted to run it !
> past the group, and ask for comments. Thanks for your help.
>
> Clem Nichols
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tire & Wheel size |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
Michel, to add to your comment, it is always apparent that speed mods will
show a greater gain on faster aircraft than slower ones. Changing to
smaller tyres (tires) on an aircraft that have a top speed of 1000 MPH may
only make the change you stated however should this be done on an aircraft
with a top speed of 200 MPH you would probably have a 15 MPH increase in
speed. Somehow I can not visualize tundra tires on an RV- 8!
Vic
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: Tire & Wheel size
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> > From: Clem Nichols [cnichols@scrtc.com]
> > My plane is presently equipped with tundra tires (22x 8.0-8), which I
obviously don't
> > need for flying off a blacktop runway, and which obviously provide an
excessive
> > amount of drag.
>
> Clem, I read a Norwegian article where the owner of a EuroCub (similar to
Kitfox) had changed his tundra tyres for some smaller ones and he couldn't
notice more than two knots speed increase. He went back to the tundras,
feeling it safer in case of emergency landing. The test was made by the
president of the Norwegian Microlight Association and I believe he is an
experienced and serious pilot.
> Anyway, please, take this with a grain of salt, each homebuilt plane is
different and you may see a different performance increase with your plane.
> Just my two cents,
>
> Michel
>
>
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| Subject: | Tire & Wheel size |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
Subject: Fw: Kitfox-List: Tire & Wheel size
> Surely you-all knew I meant 100 MPH and not 1000!
>
>
> Vic
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 6:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tire & Wheel size
>
>
> > Michel, to add to your comment, it is always apparent that speed mods
> will
> > show a greater gain on faster aircraft than slower ones. Changing to
> > smaller tyres (tires) on an aircraft that have a top speed of 1000 MPH
may
> > only make the change you stated however should this be done on an
aircraft
> > with a top speed of 200 MPH you would probably have a 15 MPH increase in
> > speed. Somehow I can not visualize tundra tires on an RV- 8!
> >
> > Vic
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
> > To: "kitfox list" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 2:42 AM
> > Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: Tire & Wheel size
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> > >
> > > > From: Clem Nichols [cnichols@scrtc.com]
> > > > My plane is presently equipped with tundra tires (22x 8.0-8), which
I
> > obviously don't
> > > > need for flying off a blacktop runway, and which obviously provide
an
> > excessive
> > > > amount of drag.
> > >
> > > Clem, I read a Norwegian article where the owner of a EuroCub (similar
> to
> > Kitfox) had changed his tundra tyres for some smaller ones and he
couldn't
> > notice more than two knots speed increase. He went back to the tundras,
> > feeling it safer in case of emergency landing. The test was made by the
> > president of the Norwegian Microlight Association and I believe he is an
> > experienced and serious pilot.
> > > Anyway, please, take this with a grain of salt, each homebuilt plane
is
> > different and you may see a different performance increase with your
> plane.
> > > Just my two cents,
> > >
> > > Michel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Tire & Wheel size |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
Corrected message
>
> Michel, to add to your comment, it is always apparent that speed mods
will
> show a greater gain on faster aircraft than slower ones. Changing to
> smaller tyres (tires) on an aircraft that have a top speed of 100 MPH may
> only make the change you stated however should this be done on an aircraft
> with a top speed of 200 MPH you would probably have a 15 MPH increase in
> speed. Somehow I can not visualize tundra tires on an RV- 8!
>
> Vic
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
> To: "kitfox list" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: Tire & Wheel size
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> >
> > > From: Clem Nichols [cnichols@scrtc.com]
> > > My plane is presently equipped with tundra tires (22x 8.0-8), which I
> obviously don't
> > > need for flying off a blacktop runway, and which obviously provide an
> excessive
> > > amount of drag.
> >
> > Clem, I read a Norwegian article where the owner of a EuroCub (similar
to
> Kitfox) had changed his tundra tyres for some smaller ones and he couldn't
> notice more than two knots speed increase. He went back to the tundras,
> feeling it safer in case of emergency landing. The test was made by the
> president of the Norwegian Microlight Association and I believe he is an
> experienced and serious pilot.
> > Anyway, please, take this with a grain of salt, each homebuilt plane is
> different and you may see a different performance increase with your
plane.
> > Just my two cents,
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Tire & Wheel size |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Vic Jacko [vicwj@earthlink.net]
> Michel, to add to your comment, it is always apparent that speed mods will
> show a greater gain on faster aircraft than slower ones.
Indeed Vic, and the Euro Cub is a "slow 'n low" plane. BTW, here are some photos
of it, when I was trained on a taildragger, last years. You'll see that the
plane is not made for speed ... nor am I, at my age! :-)
http://home.online.no/~michel/bunnfjord/
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: ammeter installation |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
Thanks Kurt and others who responded. I do have a voltmeter already installed
but want ammeter as well to give a more complete picture of charging system status.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
Marco,
That does sound confusing. My Actron amp meter book
gives 8 possible wiring diagrams, so it can get even
more confused. Anyway, I'll take a shot at the basic
problem.
Basically, the starter should have a dedicated direct
wire from the battery. It sucks the biggest load.
This doesn't have to go thru the amp gauge, so you
don't need to hook it up to the amp gauge at all. If
you do, it will probably just peg the gauge when you
start anyway.
But if you mean the starter solenoid seperately, which
you control with the start switch, that can just hook
up to the amp (+) side directly, with the start switch
wired in between the gauge and the solenoid.
The amp gauge should be between the battery and the
alternator power output (B+) after the
voltage/rectifier. Don't bypass it. All loads except
the starter should be on the same side of the amp
gauge as the alternator output, or B+.
Don't get this B+ confused with the alternator input
line, which is probably smaller wire too. I don't
know your specific installation though. Since it is
low amperage, both wires could be small. I am sorry,
but I don't know your wire color coding either.
So the (-) amp terminal should hook up to the battery
(+). The starter should hook up to the battery (+)
terminal too.
The amp (+) terminal should hook up to the voltage
rectifier (alternator) B+. Your starter solenoid and
all your other loads should hook up to the amp (+)
including the alternator power input wire.
That amp needle simply points to where the power is
coming from and shows how much. It points to the
battery (-) until the alternator is putting out enough
power to recharge the battery. Then it points to the
alternator side (+) to show current recharging the
battery. With this setup, you don't see how much load
you are putting on the system, once the alternator is
charging. It just shows how much is going into or out
of the battery. With the alternator not charging, it
will show the total of all loads you have turned on,
except the starter.
More confused? Try:
Battery Rectifier output B+
>(-)amp gauge(+)< Starter solinoid
Starter Alternator field
All radios/lights/etc
Hope this prints OK. Maybe that will help. Call me
if you want to discuss it. (502)458-9646
You'll have to ask someone who has your engine about
your wire color codes though.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- Marco Menezes wrote:
> I'd like to install a VDO ammeter on my panel but am
> somewhat confused about wiring (Rotax 582 UL).
> Instrument wiring diagram show one positive lead to
> + on alternator, other to + on starter solenoid.
> Questions: 1) for the "alternator" + lead. do I
> bypass the rectifier go directly to engine?
> Presubambly this would be to one of 2 "lighting
> coil" wires (yellow or yellow/black). Which one? 2)
> for the starter solenoid + lead, do I bypass the
> rectifier and wire directly to the solenoid?
>
> Thanks in advance for assistance.
>
> Marco Menezes
> N99KX
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| Subject: | Tire & Wheel size and Subaru performance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" <n10pg@neo.rr.com>
Hello Clem:
I have been flying my NSI-equipped kitfox5 for 850 trouble-free hours and I
may be able to give advise. The subject is too complex for me to discuss via
e-mail ( I am a very slow typist). If you want to give me a call any evening
after 18:00 Eastern Time, at (330) 923-7587, I'd be happy to tell you how I
am operating my rig.
Peter Graichen
http://home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clem Nichols
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tire & Wheel size and Subaru performance
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Can anyone please tell me what size wheel and tire were provided with the
Model IV kits. My plane is presently equipped with tundra tires (22x
8.0-8), which I obviously don't need for flying off a blacktop runway, and
which obviously provide an excessive amount of drag. Also, I'd be
interested in knowing at what engine rpm those of you using an NSI Subaru
EA81 non turbo engine cruise, and also what is your maximum engine rpm at
full throttle. My setup is equipped with an Ellison TBI and a 3-blade Warp
Drive Prop (recently shortened from 70" to 68 1/2" in diameter because of my
less-than-perfect flying skills). I can get off the ground very quickly,
and my VSI shows close to 1000fpm on climbout at 70 mph, so I don't think
I'm over-pitched, but at full throttle straight-and-level, my tachometer is
only showing 5000 rpm. At 4200 rpm, my cruise speed is only about 80 mph
IAS. My plane is heavy at 820 pounds empty, but it has fairings on the lift
struts, and the only really!
obvious drag-generator I can see are the tundra tires. At present, I have
about 13 1/2 degrees pitch in the prop. Obviously, increasing this would
help my cruise speed (at the expense of take-off distance and climb rate),
but would also tend to lower the engine rpm at full throttle. When I pull
the throttle all the way back, the engine idles at about 1200 rpm, and I
gather from earlier posts that this is not good on the PSRU. It's my
understanding that the maximum allowable speed on the Subaru is 5600 rpm,
and on the NSI conversion, at least, is rev limited. They say the maximum
continuous speed is 5500 rpm. Being mechanically challenged, I'm a little
reluctant to start changing a lot of things around. (Did I mention that I
bought the plane already built?) The engine runs very smoothly at 5000 rpm,
and I can't help but think that a simple adjustment of the throttle linkage
on the Ellison unit might take care of at least a part of my problem, but I
wanted to run it !
past the group, and ask for comments. Thanks for your help.
Clem Nichols
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| Subject: | Homebuilder special tailwheel report |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
Hi All,
Finally had a chance to fly with my homebuilder
special tailwheel that I installed on my Maule
assembly and I really like it. As reported
previously by others, it does ride smoother on hard
surface.
The one thing I did notice about it is that it does
seem to cause the Maule assembly to break over
easier. I think it's due to the fact that there's
less 'meat' on the ground since the homebuilder wheel
is more rounded (cross-section) than the stock Maule
which is kinda flat. The springs will twist sideways
easier. When loading on my trailer I have to be
careful when pushing it backward that it doesn't
break-over on the tailwheel track. Otherwise tho,
seems to work great.
Regards,
Ted
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| Subject: | Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ?? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Hello All,
It's time for me to buy a prop and I would like know
which would work better for the Classic IV with a 912S
- the Powerfin or Warp Drive?
I have been searching the archives and found where
the Powerfin was slower in cruise than the tapered tip
Warp. Is this typical for most of you?
I visited the Warp Drive booth at Oshkosh. Their
show special was free nickel leading edge protection
($45 per blade normally). The prop would still cost me
about $800. Looking at the Powerfin website, their's
appear to be a little bit cheaper. I just want to make
sure I am comparing apples to apples.
Thanks!
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh anybody? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <av8rps@tznet.com>
OK, I know what you guys are thinking.....what kind of guy sets up the deal
for Acey - Ducey for friday night and then never shows up? Well, I guess I
am a leaker, as I got so busy dealing with a damaged seaplane the seaplane
base that by the time I was done it was too late for me to go.
I can only hope some of you met up with eachother while you were there.
I'll try again next year.
BTW - We had 4 kitfoxes on floats at the base this year.
Paul Seehafer
----- Original Message -----
From: "POP3" <av8rps@TZNET.COM>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: POP3 <av8rps@tznet.com>
>
> Hi guys:
>
> I'm hoping to be at Acey Ducey friday night sometime around 8:30, but
> otherwise if any of you want a gathering place come out to the seaplane
base
> for the Annual Watermelon Social (pig roast, Beer/soda, a commemorative
> glass WipAire beer mug, and door prizes - all for $15) Best party at
> Oshkosh. Of course I'm opinionated as I'm in charge of the Seaplane Base.
> Oh yeah, you can ride the seaplane bus both ways from the main field for
$2.
> The bus is located south of the ultralight runway and runs every half
hour.
> But buy your tickets at the base as soon as you can as we only sell 500
> tickets. And when they're gone they're gone.
>
> It certainly would be nice to put faces with names!
>
> Paul Seehafer
> Chairman, AirVenture
> Seaplane Base
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul" <pwilson@climber.org>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh anybody?
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Paul <pwilson@climber.org>
> >
> > I will look for you
> > Paul
> > =========
> >
> > At 7:29 AM -0400 7/22/04, Fox5flyer wrote:
> > >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> > >
> > >Even though I've got way to much on my plate I've finally made a
decision
> to
> > >drop everything and go to Oshkosh this year and I'll be staying in Camp
> > >Scholler registered in the camp locator as Darrel Morisse. Anyway some
> of
> > >us can meet up somewhere for some face time? Somewhere on the property
> or
> > >maybe the Acey Ducey bar (sp?)? It'd be a shame for all of us to be
> there
> > >and not make some sort of contact. Also, if you're staying in camp
> > >scholler, drop the list a quick line and I'll do my best to look you
up.
> > >Make sure you register in the camp locator or we can't find you. I'll
be
> > >arriving Sunday evening and leaving Friday morning. Hope to see some
of
> > >you.
> > >Darrel
> >
> > --
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ?? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Grant,
Personally I like the IVO in-flight adjustable... but it will not fall
under the LSA rule. Otherwise I would most likely go with the Warp. I have
not flown behind the Powerfin. I have heard mixed reports from those that
have.
Blue Skies
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Grant Fluent
Subject: Kitfox-List: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ??
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Hello All,
It's time for me to buy a prop and I would like know
which would work better for the Classic IV with a 912S
- the Powerfin or Warp Drive?
I have been searching the archives and found where
the Powerfin was slower in cruise than the tapered tip
Warp. Is this typical for most of you?
I visited the Warp Drive booth at Oshkosh. Their
show special was free nickel leading edge protection
($45 per blade normally). The prop would still cost me
about $800. Looking at the Powerfin website, their's
appear to be a little bit cheaper. I just want to make
sure I am comparing apples to apples.
Thanks!
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
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| Subject: | Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ?? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
I have the IVO in-flight adjustable on my 582 and love it. However you
should ask John King about his new prop. It looks very nice.
Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ??
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Grant,
Personally I like the IVO in-flight adjustable... but it will not
fall
under the LSA rule. Otherwise I would most likely go with the Warp. I have
not flown behind the Powerfin. I have heard mixed reports from those that
have.
Blue Skies
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Grant Fluent
Subject: Kitfox-List: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ??
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Hello All,
It's time for me to buy a prop and I would like know
which would work better for the Classic IV with a 912S
- the Powerfin or Warp Drive?
I have been searching the archives and found where
the Powerfin was slower in cruise than the tapered tip
Warp. Is this typical for most of you?
I visited the Warp Drive booth at Oshkosh. Their
show special was free nickel leading edge protection
($45 per blade normally). The prop would still cost me
about $800. Looking at the Powerfin website, their's
appear to be a little bit cheaper. I just want to make
sure I am comparing apples to apples.
Thanks!
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
I experienced a slight miss in my 582 engine. This started less than 5
hours after putting in new BR8ES plugs. I replace the plugs again today and
the miss went away. Old plugs looked brand new and color was excellent.
Has anyone ever had a new plug go bad in a short time? This is my first.
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
Don,
During my off-road racing career, I suffered several problems with NGK spark
plugs. I quit carrying them in my shop.
I recommend trying either ND (Nippondenso) W24-ESR or the platinum version. I'm
using Bosch Platinum multi-electrode that are similar to actual aviation type
plugs in my NSI EA-81. The Splitfire plugs are pretty good too. I've had the same
set in my HD for 5 years and only clean and regap them each year. Rule of thumb
is: you get what you pay for, $1.99 plus vs. $8.00. It's your life!
Scott in Nome
DO NOT ARCHIVE
AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> I experienced a slight miss in my 582 engine. This started less than 5
> hours after putting in new BR8ES plugs.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ?? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
I replaced a GSC 3 blade prop with a 3 blade Warp in a 582 powered Kitfox II about
8 years ago. I'm very pleased with the performance. I haven't flown behind
a Powerfin prop, but have seen many. It has a "sandwich" construction which
is very sucseptible to gravel. I can't tell in terms of performance, but Warp
is definitely a more durable prop.
Jose
Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent
Hello All,
It's time for me to buy a prop and I would like know
which would work better for the Classic IV with a 912S
- the Powerfin or Warp Drive?
I have been searching the archives and found where
the Powerfin was slower in cruise than the tapered tip
Warp. Is this typical for most of you?
I visited the Warp Drive booth at Oshkosh. Their
show special was free nickel leading edge protection
($45 per blade normally). The prop would still cost me
about $800. Looking at the Powerfin website, their's
appear to be a little bit cheaper. I just want to make
sure I am comparing apples to apples.
Thanks!
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Jos M. Toro, P.E.
Computer Systems Validation Engineer
Eli-Lilly PR05
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| Subject: | Re: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ?? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com
Gee........ I had a GSC and chose an IVO ......
Better in every way...climb, cruise durability .... and Light wich is easier
on gearboxes.
Warp, I believe is the strongest but heavier... ..
I think you have more than one excellant choices
Enjoy
Dave KF2 582
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 8/9/04 1:04:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us writes:
> Don,
> During my off-road racing career, I suffered several problems with NGK spark
> plugs. I quit carrying them in my shop.
> I recommend trying either ND (Nippondenso) W24-ESR or the platinum version.
> I'm
> using Bosch Platinum multi-electrode that are similar to actual aviation
> type
> plugs in my NSI EA-81. The Splitfire plugs are pretty good too. I've had the
> same
> set in my HD for 5 years and only clean and regap them each year. Rule of
> thumb
> is: you get what you pay for, $1.99 plus vs. $8.00. It's your life!
> Scott in Nome
>
>
Scott,
Thanks for the input. Do you happen to know what is the exact
replacement brand/number for the NGK BR8ES (582 engine)? I agree with the "get
what you
pay for" statement and have always wondered if there wasn't a better plug for
the 582. However, I don't recall anyone on the list ever talking about using
a different plug than the NGK.
I've been through several sets of the NGK and this is the first time I've
experienced what might be a defective plug.
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | In Flight Adjustable Prop |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Would like to get opinions on the following:
I am buying a Speedster and plan to fly it under Sport Pilot rules. This aircraft
was built with an in-flight adjustable prop which is of course not allowed
under sport pilots rules. However, this particular aircraft was built with the
electrical fuses in front of the firewall and are not accessible to the pilot
while in flight.
My question is this, will I be able to remove the prop adjustment fuse before flight
and call this a ground adjustable prop?
Appreciate your opinions.
Jimmie
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
Don,
Very first time I started my 912 it had a miss in one
cylinder on one ignition. It was a bad plug.
Nothing in the world looked wrong with the plug but
it sure wouldn't fire right. Freaked me out though
having a brand new engine with an ignition problem!
Regards,
Ted
--- Original Message ---
From: AlbertaIV@aol.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Spark Plugs
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> I experienced a slight miss in my 582 engine.
This started less than 5
>hours after putting in new BR8ES plugs. I replace
the plugs again today and
>the miss went away. Old plugs looked brand new and
color was excellent.
> Has anyone ever had a new plug go bad in a short
time? This is my first.
>
>Don Smythe
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
Scott,
Thanks for the input. Do you happen to know what is the exact
replacement brand/number for the NGK BR8ES (582 engine)?
Don,
The ND plug is W24-ESRU which is a resistor type plug. ND makes the same
plug with a platinum tip, (in the blue box) still W24- which is the heat
range number (24) but can't remember the rest but is easily
I.E."HOT" NGK B-7 = ND W22 -- "COOL"NGK B-9 = ND W27. The B8-ES (W24
ESU) is a common two stroke spark plug used in a lot of two stroke
applications.
You can use W22 thru W27 for your engine to fine tune after jetting. Be
careful not to go too hot as you can melt a nice little hole in the top
of your pistons. You can get these at most snow machine shops or thru an
auto parts store.
Scott in Nome
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Sportpilot Insurance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Back from the wedding -
The Rotorway exec that went down three weeks ago in Cameron Park did
$400,000 damage on a house it landed on. Question, would that put a
bullseye on the pilots back if he didn't have insurance? Or more
accurately stated, would it put a bullseye on the widow's back if the pilot
had no insurance?
Agreed- to each his own, but.....
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sportpilot Insurance
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
>
> You don't need insurance to fly your Kitfox. (Don't put a bullseye on your
> back for the lawyers!)
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Sportpilot Insurance
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
> <jablackwell@ev1.net>
> >
> > I am planning on flying my Kitfox under the Sportpilot ruling. However,
I
> have not been able to get anyone to give me an insurance quote. Anyone
else
> looked into this and if so did you get any company to give you a quote?
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Burke <jeburke94je@direcway.com>
Curious you should bring spark plugs up Don, I had a similar problem a
couple of weeks ago. I changed out the new plugs and the miss went away for
a couple of flights (about three hours). Then it came back. So I replaced
the plugs wires and have put eight hours on the plane with no Miss. I guess
it could have been a bag of mixed tricks but it runs great now.
James E. Burke
(N94JE)
-------Original Message-------
From: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Spark Plugs
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
I experienced a slight miss in my 582 engine. This started less than 5
hours after putting in new BR8ES plugs. I replace the plugs again today and
the miss went away. Old plugs looked brand new and color was excellent.
Has anyone ever had a new plug go bad in a short time? This is my first
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Bulging header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
I got my aluminum tank from a fellow from Texas that made up several of
them. I did sign a release at his request, though. I found that
interesting, and didn't mind signing. He didn't know me except from the
list.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Bulging header tank
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I've built several alum tanks in the past but the
> problem comes down to the subject of the recent
> insurance thread that's floating around -- liability.
>
> When you boil it down, an alum tank that replicates
> the stock tank is about $20 of material, an hour of
> work on a lathe to make the fittings, and an hour of
> TIG time. The ones I did sold for $125. But, my
> council had a fit. It's really too bad that so much
> of what we can do is limited by our wonderful
> liability laws. I only wish more people took
> responsibility for their actions and there were less
> attorneys. We'd have a lot more certificated light
> aircraft sitting around anyway.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ted
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: In Flight Adjustable Prop |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
The prop is allowed under Sport Pilot...wanna know how? move the control
switch to a location that can not be reached from the cabin. Electric GROUND
ADJUSTABLE!!
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: In Flight Adjustable Prop
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
<jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
> Would like to get opinions on the following:
>
> I am buying a Speedster and plan to fly it under Sport Pilot rules. This
aircraft was built with an in-flight adjustable prop which is of course not
allowed under sport pilots rules. However, this particular aircraft was
built with the electrical fuses in front of the firewall and are not
accessible to the pilot while in flight.
>
> My question is this, will I be able to remove the prop adjustment fuse
before flight and call this a ground adjustable prop?
>
> Appreciate your opinions.
>
> Jimmie
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ?? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Grant, I think what you have heard is true. Two of our group changed to
the PowerFin. One went back to his GSC and the other stayed with the
Powerfin. Both had the blades shortened for reasons I don't fully
understand. The positives on the PowerFin are a much easier pitch change
process a lighter prop and very smooth running. Mark finally pitched his
prop to get maximum RPM at cruise. In other words he increased pitch until
full throttle gave him Max RPM in level flight. That is where he found the
best combination climb / cruise. In his long wing Model IV he could out
climb all of us, but would lag in cruise. He sold the long wing and is now
flying a Speedster. His cruise speed has picked up considerably but has
suffered a bit in climb. I think I can now out climb him, but this is on
our way to Oshkosh and we were pretty heavily loaded. My personal theory on
the cruise thing is that the prop has a rather wide chord especially at the
hub with a ton of pitch. I theorize that the round cowl blankets a lot of
the thrust in this area leaving the tips to do most of the work.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Fluent" <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ??
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello All,
> It's time for me to buy a prop and I would like know
> which would work better for the Classic IV with a 912S
> - the Powerfin or Warp Drive?
> I have been searching the archives and found where
> the Powerfin was slower in cruise than the tapered tip
> Warp. Is this typical for most of you?
> I visited the Warp Drive booth at Oshkosh. Their
> show special was free nickel leading edge protection
> ($45 per blade normally). The prop would still cost me
> about $800. Looking at the Powerfin website, their's
> appear to be a little bit cheaper. I just want to make
> sure I am comparing apples to apples.
> Thanks!
> Grant Fluent
> Newcastle, NE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sportpilot Insurance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Only if he's a richie...and if that's the case, then I'm sure he was
paranoid and got all the insurance any one person can have...full up. And
that being the case...let the litigation begin...
Too bad for the wife...but isn't that the chance each and every one of us
takes when we go up. He took his chances and sadly, he lost. Ya, if he was a
rich'in, I'm certain that everyone involved is slather'in at the prospects
of a big piece of pie Lowell.
Now, on the other hand, If it was me...the lawyers would be standing around
muttering, "but...but...but." and the homeowner would be calling his
insurance agent. You know...the way it used to be in this country. ;)
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sportpilot Insurance
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> Back from the wedding -
>
> The Rotorway exec that went down three weeks ago in Cameron Park did
> $400,000 damage on a house it landed on. Question, would that put a
> bullseye on the pilots back if he didn't have insurance? Or more
> accurately stated, would it put a bullseye on the widow's back if the
pilot
> had no insurance?
>
> Agreed- to each his own, but.....
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sportpilot Insurance
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
<spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
> >
> > You don't need insurance to fly your Kitfox. (Don't put a bullseye on
your
> > back for the lawyers!)
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Sportpilot Insurance
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
> > <jablackwell@ev1.net>
> > >
> > > I am planning on flying my Kitfox under the Sportpilot ruling.
However,
> I
> > have not been able to get anyone to give me an insurance quote. Anyone
> else
> > looked into this and if so did you get any company to give you a quote?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tire & Wheel size and Subaru performance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Clem,
I purchased my Model IV kit in Spring '99 and it
came with 6 x 6 tires.
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
--- Clem Nichols <cnichols@scrtc.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols"
> <cnichols@scrtc.com>
>
> Can anyone please tell me what size wheel and tire
> were provided with the Model IV kits>
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| Subject: | Re: Bulging header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
Hey Guys,
Instead of trying to "out smart" your fabricator, why not try the "out dumb"
approach.
Isn't that really an "oil tank" for that antique motorcycle that you're
restoring?
I've built a lot of "those". Why give your guy bad dreams?
Scott in Nome
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Lowell Fitt wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> I got my aluminum tank from a fellow from Texas that made up several of
> them. I did sign a release at his request, though. I found that
> interesting, and didn't mind signing. He didn't know me except from the
> list.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>; <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Bulging header tank
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
> >
> > I've built several alum tanks in the past but the
> > problem comes down to the subject of the recent
> > insurance thread that's floating around -- liability.
> >
> > When you boil it down, an alum tank that replicates
> > the stock tank is about $20 of material, an hour of
> > work on a lathe to make the fittings, and an hour of
> > TIG time. The ones I did sold for $125. But, my
> > council had a fit. It's really too bad that so much
> > of what we can do is limited by our wonderful
> > liability laws. I only wish more people took
> > responsibility for their actions and there were less
> > attorneys. We'd have a lot more certificated light
> > aircraft sitting around anyway.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ted
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Can anyone please tell me what size wheel and tire were provided |
with the Model
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Can anyone please tell me what size wheel and tire were provided with the
Model
IV kits. My plane is presently equipped with tundra tires (22x 8.0-8),
I bought my Kitfox MKIV Classic Speedster already built also, and yes it did
come with those huge tyres. I changed them due to getting prickle punctures
on grass strips. However the tyres I have put on look considerably smaller
although you could go back even smaller to 6" rims I think it might be
better to just do what I have although for a different reason to you. I have
put on what is basically lawnmower tyres. They are 16" x 6.50" x 8". They
are 4 ply instead of 2 and have a very mild tread. I also put tubes in them.
I am very happy with them for my situation and they would offer some drag
reduction although we didn't notice any. But even with only a 582 I don't
see a problem. Incidentally the new tyres look a whole lot better and only
cost $63AU each plus tubes at $13 each I think it was. We have increased
pressure slightly. Look up the Skystar site www.skystar.com and you'll find
replacement 6" wheels and brakes but you are looking at around $600US.
Rex
Australia.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
It is with great sadness that I inform the list of the passing of Fred Howes.
Fred was a great adventurer, builder, pilot and wonderful friend. His family
and friends here in Texas will miss him.
Please remember Fred's family in your prayers.
Jimmie
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| Subject: | Re: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ?? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "gary" <FlyinK@Efortress.com>
Why not Sensenich (brand new 912 ground adjustable introduced at Osh -
beautiful), Kiev or Bolly? Nueform (sp?). Lots of other nice props. Warp
and Powerfin are both nice but it looks like the new generation is better.
Can't even keep up with them. Just found Kasper too. I think Sensenich is
sweet though. $1400 but it's only money.
gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Fluent" <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Time to Buy a Prop - Warp Drive or Powerfin ??
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello All,
> It's time for me to buy a prop and I would like know
> which would work better for the Classic IV with a 912S
> - the Powerfin or Warp Drive?
> I have been searching the archives and found where
> the Powerfin was slower in cruise than the tapered tip
> Warp. Is this typical for most of you?
> I visited the Warp Drive booth at Oshkosh. Their
> show special was free nickel leading edge protection
> ($45 per blade normally). The prop would still cost me
> about $800. Looking at the Powerfin website, their's
> appear to be a little bit cheaper. I just want to make
> sure I am comparing apples to apples.
> Thanks!
> Grant Fluent
> Newcastle, NE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sportpilot Insurance |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Mark Schindler <mtschindler@yahoo.com>
There is nothing to damage where Steve flies except desert - he doesn't need insurance
- the rest of us - has to weigh the options.
Steve Cooper <spdrflyr@earthlink.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
Only if he's a richie...and if that's the case, then I'm sure he was
paranoid and got all the insurance any one person can have...full up. And
that being the case...let the litigation begin...
Too bad for the wife...but isn't that the chance each and every one of us
takes when we go up. He took his chances and sadly, he lost. Ya, if he was a
rich'in, I'm certain that everyone involved is slather'in at the prospects
of a big piece of pie Lowell.
Now, on the other hand, If it was me...the lawyers would be standing around
muttering, "but...but...but." and the homeowner would be calling his
insurance agent. You know...the way it used to be in this country. ;)
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Fitt"
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sportpilot Insurance
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
>
> Back from the wedding -
>
> The Rotorway exec that went down three weeks ago in Cameron Park did
> $400,000 damage on a house it landed on. Question, would that put a
> bullseye on the pilots back if he didn't have insurance? Or more
> accurately stated, would it put a bullseye on the widow's back if the
pilot
> had no insurance?
>
> Agreed- to each his own, but.....
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Cooper"
> To:
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Sportpilot Insurance
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper"
> >
> > You don't need insurance to fly your Kitfox. (Don't put a bullseye on
your
> > back for the lawyers!)
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jimmie Blackwell"
> > To:
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Sportpilot Insurance
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
> >
> > >
> > > I am planning on flying my Kitfox under the Sportpilot ruling.
However,
> I
> > have not been able to get anyone to give me an insurance quote. Anyone
> else
> > looked into this and if so did you get any company to give you a quote?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tire & Wheel size |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
Was going to comment on this, but didn't have direct experience. I have a
C-150/150 that I have both 16" tundra tires and 600x6 tires and can't tell
the difference in speed. Also have wheel pants for the 6" tires and they
don't make any difference either. When you've got a dirty airplane, a
little more dirt don't seem to make much difference. Remember it takes 4
times the HP 2 times the speed increase and just the opposite on drag
creagion. Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: Tire & Wheel size
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> > From: Clem Nichols [cnichols@scrtc.com]
> > My plane is presently equipped with tundra tires (22x 8.0-8), which I
obviously don't
> > need for flying off a blacktop runway, and which obviously provide an
excessive
> > amount of drag.
>
> Clem, I read a Norwegian article where the owner of a EuroCub (similar to
Kitfox) had changed his tundra tyres for some smaller ones and he couldn't
notice more than two knots speed increase. He went back to the tundras,
feeling it safer in case of emergency landing. The test was made by the
president of the Norwegian Microlight Association and I believe he is an
experienced and serious pilot.
> Anyway, please, take this with a grain of salt, each homebuilt plane is
different and you may see a different performance increase with your plane.
> Just my two cents,
>
> Michel
>
>
> ---
>
>
---
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
When you change plugs, check the plug wires to cap for tightness.
bh
> Curious you should bring spark plugs up Don, I had a similar problem a
> couple of weeks ago. I changed out the new plugs and the miss went away for
> a couple of flights (about three hours). Then it came back. So I replaced
> the plugs wires and have put eight hours on the plane with no Miss. I guess
> it could have been a bag of mixed tricks but it runs great now.
>
>
> James E. Burke
> (N94JE)
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh anybody? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
At 12:14 PM 8/9/2004, you wrote:
>.....what kind of guy sets up the deal
>for Acey - Ducey
Just where is this Acey-Ducey, anyway. My son and I looked for it and
could never find it. It's not in the phone book.
Jim Crowder
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