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1. 12:03 AM - Re: new member here (kurt schrader)
2. 03:24 AM - Re: Low fuel alarm (Fox5flyer)
3. 05:52 AM - Re: new member here (Lynn Matteson)
4. 05:55 AM - Re: new member here (Ray Kurian)
5. 05:58 AM - Re: new member here (Howard Firm)
6. 06:05 AM - Re: new member here (Roger McConnell)
7. 06:59 AM - Re: Re: TCP, 912, avgas (Lowell Fitt)
8. 07:09 AM - Re: Re: TCP, 912, avgas (Lowell Fitt)
9. 07:10 AM - Re: new member here (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
10. 07:12 AM - Sport Pilot Transition Schedule (Steve Cooper)
11. 07:42 AM - Re: Low fuel alarm (Lowell Fitt)
12. 08:13 AM - Re: Low fuel alarm (Fox5flyer)
13. 08:48 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Chatter-- Attention: Peter Graichen (John E. King)
14. 09:49 AM - Please Help w/ Tail Wheel recommendation. (Harris, Robert)
15. 10:01 AM - FW: Please Help w/ Tail Wheel recommendation. (Harris, Robert)
16. 10:01 AM - Re: Electric Prop Failure (kurt schrader)
17. 10:12 AM - Re: Vic C. - KF V 1550 project for sale (kurt schrader)
18. 10:16 AM - Re: Low fuel alarm (flier)
19. 10:20 AM - Re: Electric Prop Failure (kitfoxjunky)
20. 10:38 AM - Re: Low fuel alarm (flier)
21. 10:38 AM - Re: Please Help w/ Tail Wheel recommendation. (Clifford Begnaud)
22. 10:41 AM - Tension vs. compression WAS: Tail Wheel Chatte (Michel Verheughe)
23. 10:53 AM - With the Maule?Re: Please Help w/ Tail Wheel (Harris, Robert)
24. 11:00 AM - Kitfox for sale (VFT@aol.com)
25. 11:01 AM - Re: Vic C. - KF V 1550 project for sale (Vic Jacko)
26. 12:07 PM - Re: Tail Wheel recommendation. (Michel Verheughe)
27. 12:18 PM - Re: With the Maule?Re: Please Help w/ Tail Wheel recomme ndation. (Clifford Begnaud)
28. 01:24 PM - Tail Wheel recommendation (Harris, Robert)
29. 01:39 PM - Re: Vic C. - KF V 1550 project for sale (Howard Firm)
30. 02:12 PM - No records Annual needed? (Harris, Robert)
31. 02:32 PM - Re: No records Annual needed? (Harris, Robert)
32. 02:32 PM - Re: No records Annual needed? (Howard Firm)
33. 02:42 PM - Re: No records Annual needed? (Dee Young)
34. 02:50 PM - Can anybody can help Howard? (Harris, Robert)
35. 02:59 PM - Re: Tension vs. compression WAS: Tail Wheel Chatte (John E. King)
36. 03:17 PM - denied three times now (Harris, Robert)
37. 03:24 PM - Re: No records Annual needed? ()
38. 03:46 PM - Spinner help cooling? (Randy Daughenbaugh)
39. 03:58 PM - Re: No records Annual needed? (Fred Shiple)
40. 04:00 PM - Re: No records Annual needed? (Harris, Robert)
41. 04:16 PM - Re: Spinner help cooling? ()
42. 04:24 PM - Re: No records Annual needed? ()
43. 04:36 PM - Re: Tension vs. compression WAS: Tail Wheel Chatte (Bruce Harrington)
44. 05:02 PM - Re: No records Annual needed? (Howard Firm)
45. 05:09 PM - Terra by Trimble Documentation? (Steve Cooper)
46. 06:27 PM - Re: Electric Prop Failure (Rick)
47. 06:34 PM - Re: No records Annual needed(pics) (Fred Shiple)
48. 07:16 PM - Re: No records Annual needed? (Bob Unternaehrer)
49. 10:43 PM - Re: Electric Prop Failure (Jim Crowder)
50. 11:09 PM - Re: No records Annual needed? (kurt schrader)
51. 11:27 PM - Re: Tension vs. compression WAS: Tail Wheel Chatte (kurt schrader)
52. 11:27 PM - Re: Tension vs. compression WAS: Tail Wheel Chatte (kurt schrader)
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| Subject: | Re: new member here |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Welcome aboard!
The 1:1 scale planes just have more surface area to
fidget over when going for details. :-)
The quick built will save you a lot of time building
jigs and things. Good idea. There is still plenty to
fuss over.
I agree that there a a good number of really nice
planes out there, if you just want one already built.
But then it is a better choice if you are an A&P and
will work on it yourself.
I'll throw out the first opinion on engines and then
you should get a flurry of other opinions to pick
from. The Rotax 100 hp 912 will do nicely on floats.
The turbo Rotax 114 is good if you are going to high
density altitudes, but expensive. The Jabaru 3300
would be a good choice too. Good, smooth power for
the price, but a little heavier and it takes a smaller
prop, which gives it a little performance hit.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
> In response to "do I want to build" versus just
> "getting up there", I'd say that I want to build
> more. I've been a builder all my life,......
>
> Lynn
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Low fuel alarm |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Thanks much Kurt. You always make good sense.
Darrel
Kurt said:
> Remember Tom Anderson flamed out on descent with 4
> gallons of fuel on board because he unported the wing
> tanks and drained the header. A low fuel light would
> have warned him. Now he is rebuilding his plane. It
> also works for swelled hoses, Kream plugged tank
> screens, and just plain running out of gas.
>
> I have both the optical and float sensors. I had some
> false indications with the optical and painted the
> tank to stop them. Then I heard that someone had
> their sensor melt in the fuel additives and it came
> out in strings. And with older fuel sight gauges
> fogging over, I thought the sensor might lose its
> ability to "see" the fuel level over time too. So I
> pulled mine out and went to the float switch.
>
> I think ACS has one at a good price too.
>
> My optical is available, but even used it cost more
> than the float switch cost new. They are pretty
> cheap. You have to want the optical more, even if I
> give you a really good deal.
>
> Guess I am saying I like the float better for me and
> thus, for you, but it is your preference. I could
> have sent it with the tank if I knew. ;-) {Got your
> check. Thanks.}
>
> Mine is wired easy. Fuse, 12 volt LED, float, ground.
> A second ground thru a test switch checks the
> circuit, but not the float. I check that by draining
> the tank on annuals.
>
> Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
>
> --- Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> wrote:
>
> > I'm installing a new header tank shortly and I'd
> > like to also install a low fuel indicator while I'm
> > at it. Couple questions for those who've been
> > there.
> >
> > Who can supply a complete kit? Skystar doesn't
> > seem to be responding very well these days.
> >
> > I understand that I can go with either Reed
> > Switch or Optical type. Which is better?
> >
> > If I decide to build my own unit, can anybody
> > give me a parts list of the items I would need?
> >
> > Does anybody have a low fuel indicator that
> > they've decided not to use?
> > Email me offlist if you have one for sale.
> >
> > I've got 268 hours on my S5 and I've had no fuel
> > flow problems. Are these things really worth the
> > bother?
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> > Darrel
>
>
> _______________________________
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: new member here |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Thanks for the input,Don...and you bring up a valid question...I
haven't considered a used KF IV, but I have thought about trying to
find a kit that has been started and not finished. I suppose somebody
out there had second thoughts after getting started and gave up on the
build. Where would I start looking for such a project. I've never been
a big fan of E-bay, but I suppose that might be one source. Any others?
I've looked in Aero Trader, the magazine with no luck...I'll give their
website a try. I'd like to get a project that isn't TOO far into the
process, just so I know what's gone into it and that it's good
workmanship.
Lynn
On Thursday, August 19, 2004, at 09:53 PM, Don Pearsall wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
> <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
> Building is great, but only if you enjoy the building process, and can
> keep
> at it, day after day. Have you considered buying a used KF-IV? There
> are
> lots on the market, and you usually can get one at the same cost the
> builder
> put into it, not counting his time. Putting it on floats would be a fun
> project.
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| Subject: | Re: new member here |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ray Kurian" <raykurian@earthlink.net>
Lynn,
I have a partially completed KF I for sale, about 65% complete. If you're
interested, I can email you more details.
Ray Kurian
raykurian@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: new member here
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> Thanks for the input,Don...and you bring up a valid question...I
> haven't considered a used KF IV, but I have thought about trying to
> find a kit that has been started and not finished. I suppose somebody
> out there had second thoughts after getting started and gave up on the
> build. Where would I start looking for such a project. I've never been
> a big fan of E-bay, but I suppose that might be one source. Any others?
> I've looked in Aero Trader, the magazine with no luck...I'll give their
> website a try. I'd like to get a project that isn't TOO far into the
> process, just so I know what's gone into it and that it's good
> workmanship.
>
> Lynn
> On Thursday, August 19, 2004, at 09:53 PM, Don Pearsall wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
> > <donpearsall@comcast.net>
> >
> > Building is great, but only if you enjoy the building process, and can
> > keep
> > at it, day after day. Have you considered buying a used KF-IV? There
> > are
> > lots on the market, and you usually can get one at the same cost the
> > builder
> > put into it, not counting his time. Putting it on floats would be a fun
> > project.
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: new member here
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
Where would I start looking for such a project. I've never been
> a big fan of E-bay, but I suppose that might be one source. Any others?
> I've looked in Aero Trader, the magazine with no luck...I'll give their
> website a try. I'd like to get a project that isn't TOO far into the
> process, just so I know what's gone into it and that it's good
> workmanship.
>
> Lynn
Start here...
http://www.barnstormers.com/
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
Welcome Lynn,
I share a lot of your ideals. 18 years of model building and getting bored
with watching the plane go where I tell it and thinking gee I wish I was up
there. As far as building a Kitfox, it's just a BIG model. You will
thoroughly enjoy the process. Best of luck to you.
Roger Mac
S7/912s
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lynn
Matteson
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: new member here
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
In response to "do I want to build" versus just "getting up there", I'd
say that I want to build more. I've been a builder all my life, from
race cars (163mph Hemi-powered, blown, fuel injected T-bucket roadster)
to model planes, furniture, to houses and pole barns, etc., and I find
the building fun when it leads to a goal. I have in construction a 96"
wingspan Stinson Reliant that I have begun covering in Stits Lite
fabric (Poly-Fiber). This is an RC plane, of course. In all, I've
probably built 10 RC planes from kits. So I'm experienced in building,
but not full-size planes. I am presently flying a 110" gas-engined RC
plane, the Sig Rascal 110.
It occurred to me one day that I was getting bored with watching the
plane go through it's paces, and I wanted something more out of the
airplane hobby, and it seemed like building and flying a real plane was
the next logical step. That, and searching for lost planes, my own and
others, led me to make this decision. I'm retired, don't have any
"honey" to create any "honey-do's" for me, so I can pretty much spend
all my time building as long as the pension and Soc. Security hold out.
: )
Lynn
do not archive
On Thursday, August 19, 2004, at 09:53 PM, Don Pearsall wrote:
>
> From your post, you mentioned that you want to "get up there." Are you
> sure
> you want to build? Even with quick build everything, it will take you
> a year
> or more to build your plane. Perhaps less if you are an experienced
> builder.
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| Subject: | Re: TCP, 912, avgas |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
One follow up that I forgo to mention previously, The trip was on a zero
time oil change. I have been using for the previous three changes AV-9 by
California Power Systems a proprietary brand formulated specifically for the
912 by CPS.
One further thought. At the Rotax forum, we were told that the reason for
the new oil dipstick was that many oils foam. This was previously not a
problem, but EPA considerations have forced blenders to remove some
previously anti foaming ingredients and foaming in the return lines to the
tank has become a problem. Rotax is in the process of testing the AV-9 and
has no recommendations on it at this point. some of the previously
recommended oils are no longer on the approved list because of the foaming
issue. I had previously used Motul 5100 which was specifically recommended,
but has since been removed from the list.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: TCP, 912, avgas
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> I can give a little info here. The engine had about 605 hours at the
stuck
> valve point. I run mogas unless I am on an extended x-country. We fueled
> at Elko and interestingly enough, I borrowed at that time some of the
newer
> formulated TCP - I forgot mine. It was after this fuel load that the
valves
> stuck. I have never used TCP previously as the stuff was not recommended
to
> be carried in the airplane.
>
> Whether the TCP in this load freed up some lead accumulation or whether it
> was mere coincidence, I don't know. It was interesting the Eric said the
> ATF would not do "anything".
>
> Whether he meant it would not help - or hurt. I don't know. The ATF was
> suggested by one of the group who makes his living working on engines -
not
> airplane engines. We were looking for Marvel Mystery Oil, but couldn't
find
> it at the time. This is what Mark used in Idaho. He has had no further
> problems, nor have I in the final 40 hours of flight to and from OSH.
> Incidentally for information. I started the engine at Afton by being
> patient. Eventually the tapping of the lifters freed the valves and after
> start-up it ran fine. the hour touring Afton was a little tense, but
> uneventful.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: TCP, 912, avgas
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
> <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> >
> > Lowell,
> > Interesting report! How about putting it in context by providing some
> > background, i.e., how many hours on engine, how many hours using 100LL,
> how
> > many of those with TCP etc. Also, was it actually verified that lead was
> the
> > cause? If so, how?
> > Thanks,
> > Cliff
> >
> > >
> > > I think I should report an incident in the trip recently to Oshkosh.
We
> > > stopped in Afton Wyoming for fuel and lodging. When the engine cooled
a
> > > bit, I did a couple of rotations of the prop and as one of the guys
> later
> > > commented, It was as I was turning a turbine. I had at least four
stuck
> > > valves. Eric Tucker attributed it to 100LL and the lead. We got some
> ATF
> > > put it all into one tank and then the group flew over Afton and
environs
> > > that evening for a little recreation that evening. All was fine from
> then
> > > on.
> > >
> > > Mark another in our group had this issue a couple of years ago on one
of
> > our
> > > Idaho trips.
> > >
> > > Lowell
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Ceashman@aol.com>
> > > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: TCP, 912, avgas
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Ceashman@aol.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Clifford.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for writing about your experiences of using 100 LL in the
Rotax
> > 912
> > > > UL.
> > > > I kinda realize there are a lot of folks using this fuel.
> > > > But you know what it's like, lots of different stories like the
valves
> > > > crudding up too soon and the plugs prematurely fouling. To the
> > fiberglass
> > > fuel tank
> > > > being perforated (It makes me feel like standing on the edge of a
> rocky
> > > cliff
> > > > top somewhere in Main, belching, and looking for the "purple pill"
> > Nexium)
> > > > Anyway, I am ordering a bottle of TCP from John. It makes me feel a
> lot
> > > more
> > > > comfortable. I have only 75 hours on my motor. When I get a couple
of
> > > hundred
> > > > more, I will also have gained more confidence and not be as
influenced
> > > with
> > > > all the frightening gossip that comes from the media...no more
> Nexium!!
> > > >
> > > > Again, Thank you Clifford for a candid view of reality.
> > > > Cheers. Eric. Classic IV, Atlanta
> > > >
> > > > e-mail; ceashman@aol.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: TCP, 912, avgas |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Rick, my EGTs have always run on the low end of the green arc - about ~
1400. I have to respectfully disagree on the effect of the ATF. On the
fuel stop at Elko, I had one stuck valve as one cylinder's compression was
nonexistent. In my mind it was either the ATF wishful thinking or magic.
Marks experience last year tends to confirm this as the Marvel Mystery Oil
stopped his sticking valve with the first tank of fuel also, with no
problem since.
That last statement will go down as a forever as I learned last night that
the fellow he sold it to apparently rolled it into a ball resulting in a
total loss. No injuries as I understand it. The report is not yet in the
NTSB data base.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: TCP, 912, avgas
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
>
> Don't think anything works that fast. I use both TCP, now the new stuff,
and
> Marvel. If the valves stuck it was because they were tight to begin with
and
> I suspect EGTs got a bit high. If you were not using the TCP they may have
> loaded up over time, but I thinks that doubtful. Do you recall what the
EGTs
> were.
>
> Rick N6
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: TCP, 912, avgas
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> I can give a little info here. The engine had about 605 hours at the
stuck
> valve point. I run mogas unless I am on an extended x-country. We fueled
> at Elko and interestingly enough, I borrowed at that time some of the
newer
> formulated TCP - I forgot mine. It was after this fuel load that the
valves
> stuck. I have never used TCP previously as the stuff was not recommended
to
> be carried in the airplane.
>
> Whether the TCP in this load freed up some lead accumulation or whether it
> was mere coincidence, I don't know. It was interesting the Eric said the
> ATF would not do "anything".
>
> Whether he meant it would not help - or hurt. I don't know. The ATF was
> suggested by one of the group who makes his living working on engines -
not
> airplane engines. We were looking for Marvel Mystery Oil, but couldn't
find
> it at the time. This is what Mark used in Idaho. He has had no further
> problems, nor have I in the final 40 hours of flight to and from OSH.
> Incidentally for information. I started the engine at Afton by being
> patient. Eventually the tapping of the lifters freed the valves and after
> start-up it ran fine. the hour touring Afton was a little tense, but
> uneventful.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: TCP, 912, avgas
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
> <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> >
> > Lowell,
> > Interesting report! How about putting it in context by providing some
> > background, i.e., how many hours on engine, how many hours using 100LL,
> how
> > many of those with TCP etc. Also, was it actually verified that lead was
> the
> > cause? If so, how?
> > Thanks,
> > Cliff
> >
> > >
> > > I think I should report an incident in the trip recently to Oshkosh.
We
> > > stopped in Afton Wyoming for fuel and lodging. When the engine cooled
a
> > > bit, I did a couple of rotations of the prop and as one of the guys
> later
> > > commented, It was as I was turning a turbine. I had at least four
stuck
> > > valves. Eric Tucker attributed it to 100LL and the lead. We got some
> ATF
> > > put it all into one tank and then the group flew over Afton and
environs
> > > that evening for a little recreation that evening. All was fine from
> then
> > > on.
> > >
> > > Mark another in our group had this issue a couple of years ago on one
of
> > our
> > > Idaho trips.
> > >
> > > Lowell
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Ceashman@aol.com>
> > > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: TCP, 912, avgas
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Ceashman@aol.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Clifford.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for writing about your experiences of using 100 LL in the
Rotax
> > 912
> > > > UL.
> > > > I kinda realize there are a lot of folks using this fuel.
> > > > But you know what it's like, lots of different stories like the
valves
> > > > crudding up too soon and the plugs prematurely fouling. To the
> > fiberglass
> > > fuel tank
> > > > being perforated (It makes me feel like standing on the edge of a
> rocky
> > > cliff
> > > > top somewhere in Main, belching, and looking for the "purple pill"
> > Nexium)
> > > > Anyway, I am ordering a bottle of TCP from John. It makes me feel a
> lot
> > > more
> > > > comfortable. I have only 75 hours on my motor. When I get a couple
of
> > > hundred
> > > > more, I will also have gained more confidence and not be as
influenced
> > > with
> > > > all the frightening gossip that comes from the media...no more
> Nexium!!
> > > >
> > > > Again, Thank you Clifford for a candid view of reality.
> > > > Cheers. Eric. Classic IV, Atlanta
> > > >
> > > > e-mail; ceashman@aol.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net>
Try Peter Gow Marquette SP? MQT
Kitfox IV, NSI subi CAP 140
Really nice airplane.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Subject: Kitfox-List: new member here
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I'm a new member of this group, trying to get all the info I can while
making up my mind to buy a new Classic IV. I'm in Grass Lake, MI., (Jackson
area) and was wondering if there are any Kitfox IV owners in this area. I've
located one in the Benton Harbor, MI area, and am interested in seeing more
planes and talking to owners/builders. I'll travel (by land) to locations in
this state, and Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, if necessary. I'm an old fart, just
learning to fly after spending too much time with radio control planes and
wanting to get "up there", and now finally going for it. My thoughts at this
point are to get the kit with the quick-build options, and delay the engine
choice until later in the building process. I would eventually like to put
the plane on floats, so max horsepower is probably the way to go. Any advice
out there for an old newbie?
Lynn Matteson
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Sport Pilot Transition Schedule |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Copied from the Trike List:
Just received the following Sport Pilot Implementation Schedule from
the Denver FSDO. Finally, some implemenation details on SP.
Revision 2
08-06-04
Sport Pilot and Light Sport Aircraft Final Rule
Milestones for Implementation
September 1, 2004 -- Effective Date of Rule
An FAA certificated pilot can exercise sport pilot privileges
while operating an FAA certificated aircraft that meets the
definition of a light-sport aircraft.
October 1, 2004
Unregistered and uncertificated transitioning ultralight-like
aircraft can apply for an "N" Number (Aircraft Registration).
Application forms will be made available on the AFS-610 website on
that date.
October 2004
Practical Test Standards and Knowledge Tests Available to the
Public
Guidelines for Repairman Training Available to the Public
DPE and DAR Applications will be accepted by FAA
November 2004
First FAA DAR Training Course
January 2005
FAA Ready to Issue:
o First Sport Pilot Certificate
o First Sport Pilot CFI Certificate
o First Private Pilot WSC and PPC ratings
o Accept applications for additional category and class privileges
o First ELSA Certificate
o First SLSA Certificate
o First Light-sport Repairman Certificate
First FAA DPE Training Course
February 2005 and beyond
DAR and DPE courses as needed
Education focusing on CFI roles and responsibilities
regards,
Steve Cooper
N919SC
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| Subject: | Re: Low fuel alarm |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Darrel,
The late Ray Volk had the optical sensor. This is his story as he told it
to me at one of my early Cameron Park Fly-ins.
His was functioning normally - no alarms - but decided to check it out at
one of his annual inspections. He drained the tank and unscrewed the unit.
He found a string like filament extending from the fitting down into his
tank. As he pulled this "string" out it was attached on the end to a mass
resembling a "Hershey's Kiss". It was what was left of his optical sensor
as something in his fuel had dissolved it and it sank to the bottom of his
header tank forming the blob at the end of the descending string.
He scrupulously used auto fuel. Often hitch hiking several times into town
with his collapsible tank to fuel his Series 5. He flew a lot and was all
over the US, once getting the long distance award from the Skystar fly-in
having flown a very circuitous route from his home in phoenix to Caldwell
something like 2500 miles.
I have never heard of this happening to anyone else, so it might not be an
issue today with this unit.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
>
> Thanks Ted. I appreciate the input. I checked out the site below and
that
> switch looks like it would do the job nicely. Some people use the optical
> sensor which would probably do fine also, but I've read where some had
> trouble keeping the ambient light from setting it off. Then again, it
would
> appear an advantage is that there are no moving parts. Does anybody know
if
> there's a failure possiblity with the optical type? Then again, if it
quits
> working, what's the harm?
> Thanks,
> Darrel
> S5
>
> > If you can put a 1/2" NPT fitting toward the top of
> > your tank the simplest is the float switch. The 15-
> > 650-AC from Compac Engineering is available from
> > Durable Controls at (800) 365-0033 for $36.
> > http://www.durablecontrols.com. All you need is a
> > 12v lamp to complete the system. The Accipter sensor
> > used that switch in an external bottle. I pulled my
> > switch out and installed it in the tank. I think I
> > still have the aluminum bottle laying around. It
> > mounts in the header return line.
> >
> > I've had one in my Kitfox header for years and it
> > works well. I also put one in my Nieuport tank.
> > It's pretty fool-proof.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ted
> > >
> > >I'm installing a new header tank shortly and I'd
> > like to also install a low
> > >fuel indicator while I'm at it. Couple questions
> > for those who've been
> > >there.
> > >
> > > Who can supply a complete kit? Skystar doesn't
> > seem to be responding
> > >very well these days.
> > >
> > > I understand that I can go with either Reed
> > Switch or Optical type.
> > >Which is better?
> > >
> > > If I decide to build my own unit, can anybody
> > give me a parts list of
> > >the items I would need?
> > >
> > > Does anybody have a low fuel indicator that
> > they've decided not to use?
> > >Email me offlist if you have one for sale.
> > >
> > > I've got 268 hours on my S5 and I've had no fuel
> > flow problems. Are
> > >these things really worth the bother?
> > >
> > >Thanks for any help.
> > >Darrel
> > >
> > >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Low fuel alarm |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Good enough for me Lowell. Thanks. I'll stick with the mechanical reed
switch. On that note, do you or anybody else out there have a schematic
handy that could be scanned and emailed via attch to me? Would be
appreciated.
Darrel
> Darrel,
>
> The late Ray Volk had the optical sensor. This is his story as he told it
> to me at one of my early Cameron Park Fly-ins.
>
> His was functioning normally - no alarms - but decided to check it out at
> one of his annual inspections. He drained the tank and unscrewed the
unit.
> He found a string like filament extending from the fitting down into his
> tank. As he pulled this "string" out it was attached on the end to a mass
> resembling a "Hershey's Kiss". It was what was left of his optical sensor
> as something in his fuel had dissolved it and it sank to the bottom of
his
> header tank forming the blob at the end of the descending string.
>
> He scrupulously used auto fuel. Often hitch hiking several times into
town
> with his collapsible tank to fuel his Series 5. He flew a lot and was all
> over the US, once getting the long distance award from the Skystar fly-in
> having flown a very circuitous route from his home in phoenix to Caldwell
> something like 2500 miles.
>
> I have never heard of this happening to anyone else, so it might not be an
> issue today with this unit.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
<morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ted. I appreciate the input. I checked out the site below and
> that
> > switch looks like it would do the job nicely. Some people use the
optical
> > sensor which would probably do fine also, but I've read where some had
> > trouble keeping the ambient light from setting it off. Then again, it
> would
> > appear an advantage is that there are no moving parts. Does anybody
know
> if
> > there's a failure possiblity with the optical type? Then again, if it
> quits
> > working, what's the harm?
> > Thanks,
> > Darrel
> > S5
> >
> > > If you can put a 1/2" NPT fitting toward the top of
> > > your tank the simplest is the float switch. The 15-
> > > 650-AC from Compac Engineering is available from
> > > Durable Controls at (800) 365-0033 for $36.
> > > http://www.durablecontrols.com. All you need is a
> > > 12v lamp to complete the system. The Accipter sensor
> > > used that switch in an external bottle. I pulled my
> > > switch out and installed it in the tank. I think I
> > > still have the aluminum bottle laying around. It
> > > mounts in the header return line.
> > >
> > > I've had one in my Kitfox header for years and it
> > > works well. I also put one in my Nieuport tank.
> > > It's pretty fool-proof.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Ted
> > > >
> > > >I'm installing a new header tank shortly and I'd
> > > like to also install a low
> > > >fuel indicator while I'm at it. Couple questions
> > > for those who've been
> > > >there.
> > > >
> > > > Who can supply a complete kit? Skystar doesn't
> > > seem to be responding
> > > >very well these days.
> > > >
> > > > I understand that I can go with either Reed
> > > Switch or Optical type.
> > > >Which is better?
> > > >
> > > > If I decide to build my own unit, can anybody
> > > give me a parts list of
> > > >the items I would need?
> > > >
> > > > Does anybody have a low fuel indicator that
> > > they've decided not to use?
> > > >Email me offlist if you have one for sale.
> > > >
> > > > I've got 268 hours on my S5 and I've had no fuel
> > > flow problems. Are
> > > >these things really worth the bother?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for any help.
> > > >Darrel
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Chatter-- Attention: Peter Graichen |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
Peter,
I agree totally with you on the compression springs and no slack in the chains..
I had problems with the tension springs on both my Model IV-1200 and Series
6. I now have only compression springs on my Series 6 and both are of the same
size. I have no tail wheel chatter problems.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Peter Graichen wrote:
>4. Use only compression springs, not tension springs for steering.
>
>Peter Graichen
>http://home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Please Help w/ Tail Wheel recommendation. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
What type of tail wheel do you recommend for my Kitfox II?
My plane has the big ATV main tires and bungee suspension. My home airport
is a narrow asphalt runway and has a constant 45 degree 10-12MPH crosswind
of 10-12MPH?
I was considering Lang, Maule with a solid "Homebuilders Special" tire,
Maule pneumatic, or Maule Tundra.
Robert Harris
San Diego, CA
I agree totally with you on the compression springs and no slack in the
chains..
John King
Warrenton, VA
Thanks for the info on the springs.
What type of tail wheel do you recommend for my Kitfox II?
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| Subject: | FW: Please Help w/ Tail Wheel recommendation. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Please help,
What type of tail wheel do you recommend for my Kitfox II?
My plane has big ATV main tires and bungee suspension. My home airport is a
narrow asphalt runway and has a constant 45 degree crosswind of 10-12MPH.
I was considering Lang D-501-A, Maule SFSA with a solid "Homebuilders
Special" tire, or Maule P8B Tundra.
Robert Harris
San Diego, CA
I agree totally with you on the compression springs and no slack in the
chains..
John King
Warrenton, VA
Thanks for the info on the springs.
What type of tail wheel do you recommend for my Kitfox II?
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| Subject: | Electric Prop Failure |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
John,
That movement worries me too. Maybe these blades are
more like turbine blades that flop around at low
speeds and tighten up at normal speed. It is just the
first prop that I have heard of with that much
movement. Gary said his moves too and he talked to
NSI about it, so maybe it is OK. I still think you
are right to have NSI check it though. Cheap
insurance.
I wish Lance got his new prop done. I'd like to
switch to the more efficient design in the process.
He told me he designs for 7 G's, but it sounds like
the 912 can induce 9 on start/shutdown with that high
compression. One thing about the turbo soob is that
it is low compression. Add the clutch and there are
no G's at shutdown. The 912 clutch sounds like a good
idea.
As I said to Gary, I checked mine again last night and
all blades are tight, but the drive moves them easily
and smoothly. Still it all depends upon avoiding even
very small stress risers in the prop structure.
Well, back to scoop building and knocking my head....
Kurt S.
--- John Oakley <joakley@ida.net> wrote:
> Kurt,
> My blades move quite a bit when I grab then an exert
> small pressure on the tips. you can see them move
> at the hub. I have always been afraid they will
> strike the hub and fracture the boot on startup.
> The area we have seen break this week is
> the spot I always expected. I don't see a reason to
> panic yet but sure am going to take a better look.
> I have been thinking of having NSI overhaul or
> inspect mine, and maybe a new set of blades
> installed to tighten up things. I ever noticed a
> gearbox movement. Last year we went through a bout
> with carb ice and the engine was rough as heck.
> I have had a vibration ever since, that I have
> not been able to find, hummm.
>
> John Oakley
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| Subject: | Re: Vic C. - KF V 1550 project for sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Vic,
You wanted a V-1550? I found this one on Barstormers.
Sounds like it is still in the box?
<http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=43749>
Kurt S.
_______________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Low fuel alarm |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
It's pretty simple:
+12V-------lamp-------float switch------ground
| |
| |
---test switch---
--- Original Message ---
From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
<morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
>Good enough for me Lowell. Thanks. I'll stick with
the mechanical reed
>switch. On that note, do you or anybody else out
there have a schematic
>handy that could be scanned and emailed via attch to
me? Would be
>appreciated.
>Darrel
>
>> Darrel,
>>
>> The late Ray Volk had the optical sensor. This is
his story as he told it
>> to me at one of my early Cameron Park Fly-ins.
>>
>> His was functioning normally - no alarms - but
decided to check it out at
>> one of his annual inspections. He drained the
tank and unscrewed the
>unit.
>> He found a string like filament extending from the
fitting down into his
>> tank. As he pulled this "string" out it was
attached on the end to a mass
>> resembling a "Hershey's Kiss". It was what was
left of his optical sensor
>> as something in his fuel had dissolved it and it
sank to the bottom of
>his
>> header tank forming the blob at the end of the
descending string.
>>
>> He scrupulously used auto fuel. Often hitch
hiking several times into
>town
>> with his collapsible tank to fuel his Series 5.
He flew a lot and was all
>> over the US, once getting the long distance award
from the Skystar fly-in
>> having flown a very circuitous route from his home
in phoenix to Caldwell
>> something like 2500 miles.
>>
>> I have never heard of this happening to anyone
else, so it might not be an
>> issue today with this unit.
>>
>> Lowell
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm
>>
>>
>> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
><morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks Ted. I appreciate the input. I checked
out the site below and
>> that
>> > switch looks like it would do the job nicely.
Some people use the
>optical
>> > sensor which would probably do fine also, but
I've read where some had
>> > trouble keeping the ambient light from setting
it off. Then again, it
>> would
>> > appear an advantage is that there are no moving
parts. Does anybody
>know
>> if
>> > there's a failure possiblity with the optical
type? Then again, if it
>> quits
>> > working, what's the harm?
>> > Thanks,
>> > Darrel
>> > S5
>> >
>> > > If you can put a 1/2" NPT fitting toward the
top of
>> > > your tank the simplest is the float switch.
The 15-
>> > > 650-AC from Compac Engineering is available
from
>> > > Durable Controls at (800) 365-0033 for $36.
>> > > http://www.durablecontrols.com. All you need
is a
>> > > 12v lamp to complete the system. The Accipter
sensor
>> > > used that switch in an external bottle. I
pulled my
>> > > switch out and installed it in the tank. I
think I
>> > > still have the aluminum bottle laying around.
It
>> > > mounts in the header return line.
>> > >
>> > > I've had one in my Kitfox header for years and
it
>> > > works well. I also put one in my Nieuport
tank.
>> > > It's pretty fool-proof.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Ted
>> > > >
>> > > >I'm installing a new header tank shortly and
I'd
>> > > like to also install a low
>> > > >fuel indicator while I'm at it. Couple
questions
>> > > for those who've been
>> > > >there.
>> > > >
>> > > > Who can supply a complete kit? Skystar
doesn't
>> > > seem to be responding
>> > > >very well these days.
>> > > >
>> > > > I understand that I can go with either
Reed
>> > > Switch or Optical type.
>> > > >Which is better?
>> > > >
>> > > > If I decide to build my own unit, can
anybody
>> > > give me a parts list of
>> > > >the items I would need?
>> > > >
>> > > > Does anybody have a low fuel indicator
that
>> > > they've decided not to use?
>> > > >Email me offlist if you have one for sale.
>> > > >
>> > > > I've got 268 hours on my S5 and I've had
no fuel
>> > > flow problems. Are
>> > > >these things really worth the bother?
>> > > >
>> > > >Thanks for any help.
>> > > >Darrel
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Electric Prop Failure |
01:20:35 PM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxjunky" <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
I am not sure on the orientation of the fracture either Kurt. Lance may be
able to comment, since he now has the prop. Those punch marks are a real
mystery. I do not think they were the cause of someone hammering on the
bearing, rather I think they were added to lock the bearing in place. An
engineer who looked at them said that is not an uncommon practise if you
are working on a car or a tractor, but it would never be acceptable for
airplane parts. NSI says the bearing is a press fit, and they would not
dimple it if it was loose. The previous owner said for sure he did not do
it. Sure would be good to have a time machine to find out how they got
there. Regardless, this is not the blade that failed.
I found the outside appearance of the cuff interesting. As you can see from
the photograph, the color is not consistent. There are spots where it is
darker. I had a look at a new NSI hub at Oshkosh that they had cut up to
show the internal workings, and it did not look like this at all. Maybe
that is just the way the finish aged.
I find it interesting that you say you have no play in your blades fore and
aft. Wish I had put the blade on new, and could confirm they were tight
from the start. Mine always had a bit of play in them, and it concerned me
enough that I had asked NSI about it. I was thinking of sending it back to
NSI for a rebuild winter, as the greese and the play were causing me some
concern. Sure wish I had.
Why the prop let go at that particular time I will never understand. 15
minutes earlier I was pulling full power on takeoff. You would think if
already had a crack and was ready to let go, it would have done it then
instead of in cruise.
Gary Walsh
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.co To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
m> cc:
Sent by: Subject: RE: Kitfox-List:
Electric Prop Failure
owner-kitfox-list-server@ma
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kitfox-list
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Excellent info Gary. Top notch. Glad you are here to
give us the cold, hard facts.
One thing I am having trouble picking out from the
photos is the relation of the failure origion to the
blade orientation. I suspect it is about in line with
the prop rotation plane on the leading edge side at
normal pitch. Is that correct? Just a theory.
Leading edge alignment is from engine power and
startup? Trailing edge is from shutdown? That would
assume no significant flaw that overrides the engine
stresses and that the engine stresses are greater than
flight stresses. Just me guessing though.
Again I like the strength of those Warp blades. Would
make a good sword. Bronze age. Iron age. Carbon
age?
The hub appears to have lost 50% of its strength
before it let go in shear. It might have been
impossible to detect on preflight, so your NDT might
have been the only way to know.
For some reason the metal grain size surprises me.
I checked my blades for movement tonight and found
them to have none at all by feel other than the GB
output shaft clicking. Ran into them 3 more times
working on my scoop. :-( Like hitting a flat fishing
pole. Better than metal.
Those punch marks bother me too. Never saw anything
done that way. Someone seems to have forced the
bearing on with the nearest tool at hand.... Not
wood. Not socket. Not a pipe, but a punch?
Not pointing fingers allows us to pass on needed info
here, but there is more than one problem with this
prop that we need to watch for.
Having just rebuilt my prop, I did not see any of the
questionable items you found. Getting old and losing
your eyesight has its advantages, I suppose.
Waiting for NSI's report.... Sorry about Lance's
medical problems. Might cause a delay.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com> wrote:
> John
>
> I thought I noticed a vibration too that was not
> there before..but you know how that kind of thing
> goes.
> ...............
> Something this experience has taught me is that NDT
> testing is very cheap.
> ...............
> From what I am hearing, the NSI product has a pretty
> good track record. It could be the combination of
> the 912S (high compression and vibration during
> start and shut down) and that prop that is the
> problem. Then again, since I was not the original
> owner I do not know everything the prop has been
> through. You never know if everything that should
> be in the log book is actually there.
> .............
> Have a look at the lab report from the lab that
> documented the prop right after I removed it from
> the plane. I put it up on my web site. There was
> something else that turned up that raises some
> questions. One of the bearing races on the end of
> the prop was dimpled. A punch was used to make
> indentations to hold the bearing in place.
>
> Gary Walsh
> C-GOOT
> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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| Subject: | Re: Low fuel alarm |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
Well, it'd be simple if my diagrams came out right!
The 'test' switch goes in parallel with the float
switch...
--- Original Message ---
From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier"
<FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
>
>It's pretty simple:
>
>+12V-------lamp-------float switch------ground
> | |
> | |
> ---test switch---
>
>--- Original Message ---
>From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
><morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>>
>>Good enough for me Lowell. Thanks. I'll stick
with
>the mechanical reed
>>switch. On that note, do you or anybody else out
>there have a schematic
>>handy that could be scanned and emailed via attch
to
>me? Would be
>>appreciated.
>>Darrel
>>
>>> Darrel,
>>>
>>> The late Ray Volk had the optical sensor. This
is
>his story as he told it
>>> to me at one of my early Cameron Park Fly-ins.
>>>
>>> His was functioning normally - no alarms - but
>decided to check it out at
>>> one of his annual inspections. He drained the
>tank and unscrewed the
>>unit.
>>> He found a string like filament extending from
the
>fitting down into his
>>> tank. As he pulled this "string" out it was
>attached on the end to a mass
>>> resembling a "Hershey's Kiss". It was what was
>left of his optical sensor
>>> as something in his fuel had dissolved it and it
>sank to the bottom of
>>his
>>> header tank forming the blob at the end of the
>descending string.
>>>
>>> He scrupulously used auto fuel. Often hitch
>hiking several times into
>>town
>>> with his collapsible tank to fuel his Series 5.
>He flew a lot and was all
>>> over the US, once getting the long distance award
>from the Skystar fly-in
>>> having flown a very circuitous route from his
home
>in phoenix to Caldwell
>>> something like 2500 miles.
>>>
>>> I have never heard of this happening to anyone
>else, so it might not be an
>>> issue today with this unit.
>>>
>>> Lowell
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm
>>>
>>>
>>> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
>><morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks Ted. I appreciate the input. I checked
>out the site below and
>>> that
>>> > switch looks like it would do the job nicely.
>Some people use the
>>optical
>>> > sensor which would probably do fine also, but
>I've read where some had
>>> > trouble keeping the ambient light from setting
>it off. Then again, it
>>> would
>>> > appear an advantage is that there are no moving
>parts. Does anybody
>>know
>>> if
>>> > there's a failure possiblity with the optical
>type? Then again, if it
>>> quits
>>> > working, what's the harm?
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Darrel
>>> > S5
>>> >
>>> > > If you can put a 1/2" NPT fitting toward the
>top of
>>> > > your tank the simplest is the float switch.
>The 15-
>>> > > 650-AC from Compac Engineering is available
>from
>>> > > Durable Controls at (800) 365-0033 for $36.
>>> > > http://www.durablecontrols.com. All you need
>is a
>>> > > 12v lamp to complete the system. The
Accipter
>sensor
>>> > > used that switch in an external bottle. I
>pulled my
>>> > > switch out and installed it in the tank. I
>think I
>>> > > still have the aluminum bottle laying
around.
>It
>>> > > mounts in the header return line.
>>> > >
>>> > > I've had one in my Kitfox header for years
and
>it
>>> > > works well. I also put one in my Nieuport
>tank.
>>> > > It's pretty fool-proof.
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards,
>>> > >
>>> > > Ted
>>> > > >
>>> > > >I'm installing a new header tank shortly and
>I'd
>>> > > like to also install a low
>>> > > >fuel indicator while I'm at it. Couple
>questions
>>> > > for those who've been
>>> > > >there.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Who can supply a complete kit? Skystar
>doesn't
>>> > > seem to be responding
>>> > > >very well these days.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I understand that I can go with either
>Reed
>>> > > Switch or Optical type.
>>> > > >Which is better?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > If I decide to build my own unit, can
>anybody
>>> > > give me a parts list of
>>> > > >the items I would need?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Does anybody have a low fuel indicator
>that
>>> > > they've decided not to use?
>>> > > >Email me offlist if you have one for sale.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I've got 268 hours on my S5 and I've had
>no fuel
>>> > > flow problems. Are
>>> > > >these things really worth the bother?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >Thanks for any help.
>>> > > >Darrel
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Please Help w/ Tail Wheel recommendation. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Robert,
I recommend the homebuilders special, unless you need the pneumatic for bush
work
Cliff
> What type of tail wheel do you recommend for my Kitfox II?
>
> My plane has the big ATV main tires and bungee suspension. My home airport
> is a narrow asphalt runway and has a constant 45 degree 10-12MPH crosswind
> of 10-12MPH?
>
> I was considering Lang, Maule with a solid "Homebuilders Special" tire,
> Maule pneumatic, or Maule Tundra.
> Robert Harris
> San Diego, CA
>
>
> I agree totally with you on the compression springs and no slack in the
> chains..
> John King
> Warrenton, VA
>
> Thanks for the info on the springs.
> What type of tail wheel do you recommend for my Kitfox II?
>
>
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| Subject: | Tension vs. compression WAS: Tail Wheel Chatte |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
"John E. King" wrote:
> I agree totally with you on the compression springs and no slack in the chains..
I have the tension springs, John, and although I understand the safety of the
compression type, is there something to it than the retaining in case of
fracture? Is there a record of any tension springs to have failed ... apart
from coming loose at one end?
Thanks in advance,
Michel
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recomme ndation.
| Subject: | Please Help w/ Tail Wheel |
recomme ndation.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Cliff,
The entire Homebuilder Special assembly or just the tire on the Maule
assembly?
> What type of tail wheel do you recommend for my Kitfox II?
>
> My plane has the big ATV main tires and bungee suspension. My home airport
> is a narrow asphalt runway and has a constant 45 degree 10-12MPH crosswind
> of 10-12MPH?
>
> I was considering Lang, Maule with a solid "Homebuilders Special" tire,
> Maule pneumatic, or Maule Tundra.
> Robert Harris
> San Diego, CA
>
>
> I agree totally with you on the compression springs and no slack in the
> chains..
> John King
> Warrenton, VA
>
> Thanks for the info on the springs.
> What type of tail wheel do you recommend for my Kitfox II?
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: VFT@aol.com
Ok guys,
I just got word that the engine for my F1 project will ship the end of Sept. I REALLY need to sell N24ZM. $35,000 or best offer. Pics and info at www.aero-kids.com.
--
Danny Melnik
F1 #25
Melbourne (FL) Rocket Factory
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| Subject: | Re: Vic C. - KF V 1550 project for sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
Thanks Kurt, Why does Washington state have to be so far from Eastern
NM? I do not know why the gear is not included.
Vic
----- Original Message -----
From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Vic C. - KF V 1550 project for sale
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> Vic,
>
> You wanted a V-1550? I found this one on Barstormers.
> Sounds like it is still in the box?
>
> <http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=43749>
>
> Kurt S.
>
>
> _______________________________
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List:Tail Wheel recommendation. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Clifford Begnaud wrote:
> I recommend the homebuilders special, unless you need the pneumatic for bush
> work
I take to occasion to mention that I still haven't heard from Aircraft Spruce
but it gives me a chance to think about this:
Could it be interesting to buy the Homebuilt Special Heavy duty with double
fork to ... attach a small ski on it? Has anybody done that? Just wondering, thanks.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Please Help w/ Tail Wheel recomme |
ndation.
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
I like the entire assembly.
Cliff
>
> Cliff,
> The entire Homebuilder Special assembly or just the tire on the Maule
> assembly?
>
>
> > What type of tail wheel do you recommend for my Kitfox II?
> >
> > My plane has the big ATV main tires and bungee suspension. My home
airport
> > is a narrow asphalt runway and has a constant 45 degree 10-12MPH
crosswind
> > of 10-12MPH?
> >
> > I was considering Lang, Maule with a solid "Homebuilders Special" tire,
> > Maule pneumatic, or Maule Tundra.
> > Robert Harris
> > San Diego, CA
> >
> >
> > I agree totally with you on the compression springs and no slack in the
> > chains..
> > John King
> > Warrenton, VA
> >
> > Thanks for the info on the springs.
> > What type of tail wheel do you recommend for my Kitfox II?
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Tail Wheel recommendation |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
I'll try a new Homebuilders Special tailwheel assembly like Lowell and Cliff
have.
There's 440 hours on my existing heavy duty Homebuilder's Special tail wheel
and it breaks free on rough landings. My chains are tight and I have
compression springs. I'll let you know if replacing the assembly improves
this.
Robert,
I recommend the homebuilders special, unless you need the pneumatic for bush
work
Cliff
> What type of tail wheel do you recommend for my Kitfox II?
> I was considering Lang, Maule with a solid "Homebuilders Special" tire,
> Maule pneumatic, or Maule Tundra.
> Robert Harris
> San Diego, CA
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Vic C. - KF V 1550 project for sale |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Vic C. - KF V 1550 project for sale
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
>
> Thanks Kurt, Why does Washington state have to be so far from Eastern
> NM? I do not know why the gear is not included.
>
> Vic
Make sure that you have a complete paper trail from the factory to you. I am
the third owner of my kit and the first two owners are dead, but I don't
have the paperwork from the sale of the 1st and 2nd owner. I have the
original receipt from Skystar to the first owner, and the paperwork from the
2nd owner to me...but not the middle part. My application for registration
has been denied three times now.
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
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| Subject: | No records Annual needed? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Howard what can you do to register your plane?
Does anyone know how can one can annual from an A&P when the service records
cannot be located.
Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Howard Firm
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Vic C. - KF V 1550 project for sale
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Vic C. - KF V 1550 project for sale
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
>
> Thanks Kurt, Why does Washington state have to be so far from Eastern
> NM? I do not know why the gear is not included.
>
> Vic
Make sure that you have a complete paper trail from the factory to you. I am
the third owner of my kit and the first two owners are dead, but I don't
have the paperwork from the sale of the 1st and 2nd owner. I have the
original receipt from Skystar to the first owner, and the paperwork from the
2nd owner to me...but not the middle part. My application for registration
has been denied three times now.
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
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| Subject: | No records Annual needed? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Howard what can you do to register your plane?
Related question...
Does anyone know how you can obtain an annual from an A&P when there are no
prior maintenance records?
Robert
Make sure that you have a complete paper trail from the factory to you. I am
the third owner of my kit and the first two owners are dead, but I don't
have the paperwork from the sale of the 1st and 2nd owner. I have the
original receipt from Skystar to the first owner, and the paperwork from the
2nd owner to me...but not the middle part. My application for registration
has been denied three times now.
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
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| Subject: | Re: No records Annual needed? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: No records Annual needed?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
<Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
>
> Howard what can you do to register your plane?
>
> Does anyone know how can one can annual from an A&P when the service
records
> cannot be located.
>
> Robert
So far, I don't know what else I can do....I did finally contact the FAA
Registry on the phone and was told that my application was going to have to
go "Upstairs" to be approved, but it was turned down anyway....I last sent a
notarized statement explaining everything about one month ago....have yet to
hear back.
Howard
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| Subject: | Re: No records Annual needed? |
Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:42:03 -0600
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
I know a fellow who had the same problem, he created a paper trail from Denny Aircraft
(who is no long in business) to himself as original owner. FAA did not
question the paper work.
Dee Young
Model II N345DY
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Harris, Robert<mailto:Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
To: 'kitfox-list@matronics.com'<mailto:'kitfox-list@matronics.com'>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 3:31 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: No records Annual needed?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com<mailto:Robert_Harris@intuit.com>>
Howard what can you do to register your plane?
Related question...
Does anyone know how you can obtain an annual from an A&P when there are no
prior maintenance records?
Robert
Make sure that you have a complete paper trail from the factory to you. I am
the third owner of my kit and the first two owners are dead, but I don't
have the paperwork from the sale of the 1st and 2nd owner. I have the
original receipt from Skystar to the first owner, and the paperwork from the
2nd owner to me...but not the middle part. My application for registration
has been denied three times now.
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
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| Subject: | Can anybody can help Howard? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Boy that is really too bad. Can anybody can help Howard?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Howard Firm
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: No records Annual needed?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: No records Annual needed?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
<Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
>
> Howard what can you do to register your plane?
>
> Does anyone know how can one can annual from an A&P when the service
records
> cannot be located.
>
> Robert
So far, I don't know what else I can do....I did finally contact the FAA
Registry on the phone and was told that my application was going to have to
go "Upstairs" to be approved, but it was turned down anyway....I last sent a
notarized statement explaining everything about one month ago....have yet to
hear back.
Howard
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| Subject: | Re: Tension vs. compression WAS: Tail Wheel Chatte |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John E. King " <kingjohn@erols.com>
Michel,
My experience with tension springs is that they can become stretched and they are
prone to coming detached if not kept tight by the chains and the hooked ends
bent over to prevent that. The compression springs cannot become unhooked
or stretched when attached to the chains.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>"John E. King" wrote:
>
>
>>I agree totally with you on the compression springs and no slack in the chains..
>>
>>
>
>I have the tension springs, John, and although I understand the safety of the
>compression type, is there something to it than the retaining in case of
>fracture? Is there a record of any tension springs to have failed ... apart
>from coming loose at one end?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Michel
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | denied three times now |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Dee,
I bet that would work.
-----
Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dee Young
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: No records Annual needed?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
I know a fellow who had the same problem, he created a paper trail from
Denny Aircraft (who is no long in business) to himself as original owner.
FAA did not question the paper work.
Dee Young
Model II N345DY
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Harris, Robert<mailto:Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
To: 'kitfox-list@matronics.com'<mailto:'kitfox-list@matronics.com'>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 3:31 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: No records Annual needed?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
<Robert_Harris@intuit.com<mailto:Robert_Harris@intuit.com>>
Howard what can you do to register your plane?
Related question...
Does anyone know how you can obtain an annual from an A&P when there are
no
prior maintenance records?
Robert
Make sure that you have a complete paper trail from the factory to you. I
am
the third owner of my kit and the first two owners are dead, but I don't
have the paperwork from the sale of the 1st and 2nd owner. I have the
original receipt from Skystar to the first owner, and the paperwork from
the
2nd owner to me...but not the middle part. My application for registration
has been denied three times now.
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
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| Subject: | Re: No records Annual needed? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <kirkhull@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Does anyone know how can one can annual from an A&P when the service
records
> cannot be located.
>
> Robert
As an A&P you do not need the paper work to get a " condition inspection "
(an annual insp for expirementals)
as long as there are no certified parts like an engine on board with AD 's.
All you have to do is have an airplane that is in good condition. If you
have any AD's ( certified parts only) you will have to have them inspected
to confirm completion or have them redone
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| Subject: | Spinner help cooling? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
A friend of mine with a series 5 and an O-200 is having cooling problems. A
number of little things have brought the temp down about 25 F but he wants
about 20 more. Baffles look good.
He doesn't have a spinner on it. He is using a Warp Drive prop and that big
flat hub looks like it would not help getting the air into the cowl. (Looks
that way to me at least.)
Can any one say what a spinner would do to help get more air into the cowl?
Thanks,
Randy - Plane's ready. Working to get me ready!
.
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| Subject: | Re: No records Annual needed? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
Howard,
Have you tried contacting the EAA? This should be right up their alley.
Fred
do not archive
So far, I don't know what else I can do....I did finally contact the FAA
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| Subject: | No records Annual needed? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Thanks,
That's great news. To confirm I don't need prior records to get an annual
inspection on my experimental already registered plane as long as I don't
have certified parts. Will the A&P give me an airworthy note? My plane is N
numbered and has current registration with FAA.
Robert
As an A&P you do not need the paper work to get a " condition inspection "
(an annual insp for expirementals)
as long as there are no certified parts like an engine on board with AD 's.
All you have to do is have an airplane that is in good condition. If you
have any AD's ( certified parts only) you will have to have them inspected
to confirm completion or have them redone
That is great news. Will the A&P give me a form that says my experimental
plane is airworthy?
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| Subject: | Re: Spinner help cooling? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <kirkhull@sbcglobal.net>
I have never heard of a spinner helping to cool an engine but would not be
surprised if it did.
you might want to check that all of the cooling fins are clean and that the
baffle seals make good contact with the cal.
Also make sure the exit path is clear and large enough for the cooling air
to exit. Remember that the exit hole must be larger then the inlet as the
air has expanded as it absorbed heat from the engine.
> A friend of mine with a series 5 and an O-200 is having cooling problems.
A
> number of little things have brought the temp down about 25 F but he wants
> about 20 more. Baffles look good.
>
> He doesn't have a spinner on it. He is using a Warp Drive prop and that
big
> flat hub looks like it would not help getting the air into the cowl.
(Looks
> that way to me at least.)
>
> Can any one say what a spinner would do to help get more air into the
cowl?
>
> Thanks,
> Randy - Plane's ready. Working to get me ready!
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| Subject: | Re: No records Annual needed? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <kirkhull@sbcglobal.net>
As long as the aircraft can pass an inspection the A&P should give you a
sign off to fly in your new logbook.
I have done this for an indivual whose logbooks were lost in a hoouse fire.
As for your regestration problem, was the aircraft ever registered to the
second owner? If it was you should not need his bill of sale. just the fact
that it was registered in his name as proof
>
> Thanks,
> That's great news. To confirm I don't need prior records to get an annual
> inspection on my experimental already registered plane as long as I don't
> have certified parts. Will the A&P give me an airworthy note? My plane is
N
> numbered and has current registration with FAA.
>
> Robert
>
>
> As an A&P you do not need the paper work to get a " condition inspection "
> (an annual insp for expirementals)
> as long as there are no certified parts like an engine on board with AD
's.
> All you have to do is have an airplane that is in good condition. If you
> have any AD's ( certified parts only) you will have to have them inspected
> to confirm completion or have them redone
>
>
> That is great news. Will the A&P give me a form that says my experimental
> plane is airworthy?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tension vs. compression WAS: Tail Wheel Chatte |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
I safety wired the tension spring ends on my IV-1200 so they would not pop off.
bh
> Michel,
>
> My experience with tension springs is that they can become stretched and they
are prone to coming detached if not kept tight by the chains and the hooked
ends bent over to prevent that. The compression springs cannot become unhooked
or stretched when attached to the chains.
>
> --
> John King
> Warrenton, VA
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| Subject: | Re: No records Annual needed? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
The plane was never registered, What I should have done is to make a fake
bill of sale from the 1st buyer to me....and leaving out the 2nd buyer
altogether.....I think it will happen sometime...it's a bummer having to
wait though....I uploaded a much better pic on Sportflight.
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
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| Subject: | Terra by Trimble Documentation? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Desperate! I'm looking for copies of the documentation for the TD200, TDN250
CDI HEAD...It's for the older stuff with the push button wheels on the
front. Could someone make copies of their manuals for me...please? I'll be
glad to pay the mailing and copy charges. I would be so grateful. I have the
radio, NAV Transponder, blind encoder and the CDI head. I need the docs!
Steve Cooper
(661) 256-0140
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| Subject: | Electric Prop Failure |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Just an interesting bit of information. A friend of mine, one smart guy,
figured the load at the blade attachment point on a two blade prop is 30,000
pounds. Yes 15 tons. That blade is the standard length for an IO360
cardinal. Don't know what the warp blade weighs, less for sure, but it give
you some idea of the forces involved.
Rick N6
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| Subject: | Re: No records Annual needed(pics) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
Stunning finish, Howard. Both you and your wife should be proud.
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: No records Annual needed? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
Have you tried an affidavit from the deceased estate stateing who it was
sold to. I hear that works. Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: No records Annual needed?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: No records Annual needed?
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
> <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
> >
> > Howard what can you do to register your plane?
> >
> > Does anyone know how can one can annual from an A&P when the service
> records
> > cannot be located.
> >
> > Robert
>
>
> So far, I don't know what else I can do....I did finally contact the FAA
> Registry on the phone and was told that my application was going to have
to
> go "Upstairs" to be approved, but it was turned down anyway....I last sent
a
> notarized statement explaining everything about one month ago....have yet
to
> hear back.
>
> Howard
>
>
> ---
>
>
---
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| Subject: | Electric Prop Failure |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net>
At 12:04 AM 8/20/2004, you wrote:
>I checked my blades for movement tonight and found
>them to have none at all by feel other than the GB
>output shaft clicking. Ran into them 3 more times
>working on my scoop. :-( Like hitting a flat fishing
>pole. Better than metal.
I'm leaving town in the morning for a couple of weeks, but I found an
excuse to drive to the airport and checked my CAP. The blades turn freely
by light finger pressure, but I can detect no shaft end play and the blades
refuse to rotate by hand--no play that way either. Since the manual calls
some end play normal, I would be concerned if they did not rotate so
easily. They have virtually no time, so will probably develop some play
after more time.
I continue to watch this thread with great interest. Lance says his new
blades will be ready by the first of next year.
Jim Crowder
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| Subject: | Re: No records Annual needed? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Great looking panel too Howard.
Kurt S.
do not archive
--- Howard Firm <pianome2@mchsi.com> wrote:
> ....I uploaded a much better pic on Sportflight.
>
> Howard Firm
> 508 12th St. South
> Virginia MN 55792
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| Subject: | Re: Tension vs. compression WAS: Tail Wheel Chatte |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Michel,
My understanding of it is that the tension springs can
keep streching, but the compression springs can only
go until full contact. Once completely compressed,
you are directly controlling the tailwheel, unless it
breaks away. So what I was told is that the
compression springs give more positive control. Maybe
a little more responsive too.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
> "John E. King" wrote:
> > I agree totally with you on the compression
> springs and no slack in the chains..
>
> I have the tension springs, John, and although I
> understand the safety of the compression type, is
> there something to it than the retaining in case of
> fracture? Is there a record of any tension springs
> to have failed ... apart from coming loose at one
> end?
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Tension vs. compression WAS: Tail Wheel Chatte |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Michel,
My understanding of it is that the tension springs can
keep streching, but the compression springs can only
go until full contact. Once completely compressed,
you are directly controlling the tailwheel, unless it
breaks away. So what I was told is that the
compression springs give more positive control. Maybe
a little more responsive too.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
> "John E. King" wrote:
> > I agree totally with you on the compression
> springs and no slack in the chains..
>
> I have the tension springs, John, and although I
> understand the safety of the compression type, is
> there something to it than the retaining in case of
> fracture? Is there a record of any tension springs
> to have failed ... apart from coming loose at one
> end?
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Michel
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