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1. 12:17 AM - Re:Kitfox list:engine problem (Thomas Lee)
2. 05:50 AM - Re: Re:Kitfox list:engine problem (Floran Higgins)
3. 06:04 AM - Re: Spinner help cooling? (Dee Young)
4. 06:46 AM - Re: No records Annual needed? (Michael Gibbs)
5. 09:49 AM - 3M Glue (Jeffrey Puls)
6. 12:31 PM - Terra Documentation (Steve Cooper)
7. 01:10 PM - Re: Tension vs. compression (Michel Verheughe)
8. 01:38 PM - Rotax 912 series engines (Ted Palamarek)
9. 02:27 PM - thread sealer for poly header tank (Fox5flyer)
10. 02:28 PM - Re: Low fuel alarm (Fox5flyer)
11. 03:58 PM - Re: 3M Glue (roger augenstein)
12. 04:13 PM - Fw: thread sealer for poly header tank (Peter Brookes)
13. 06:31 PM - Re: Re:Kitfox list:engine problem (neflyer48)
14. 07:01 PM - Re: thread sealer for poly header tank (Lowell Fitt)
15. 07:50 PM - I agree totally with you on the compression springs and no slack in the (Rex & Jan Shaw)
16. 08:01 PM - Low fuel level indicator. (Rex & Jan Shaw)
17. 08:10 PM - Sunday Fly in at E. Hampton NY (Jay Fabian)
18. 08:57 PM - I take to occasion to mention that I still haven't heard from Aircraft Spruce (Rex & Jan Shaw)
19. 09:18 PM - Re: Rotax 912 series engines (KITFOXPILOT@att.net)
20. 10:01 PM - Re: Fw: thread sealer for poly header tank (kurt schrader)
21. 10:06 PM - Re: Tension vs. compression (kurt schrader)
22. 10:12 PM - Re: Spinner help cooling? (kurt schrader)
23. 10:20 PM - Re: Re:Kitfox list:engine problem (jimshumaker)
24. 10:23 PM - Re: Re:Kitfox list:engine problem (jimshumaker)
25. 10:29 PM - Re: I take to occasion to mention that I still haven't heard from Aircraft Spruce (jimshumaker)
26. 11:36 PM - Re: Re:Kitfox list:engine problem (Thomas Lee)
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| Subject: | Re:Kitfox list:engine problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Thomas Lee <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
Yesterday when I took off with full throttle, at about 350 ft the
engine loss power for 1 to 2 second and then resumed power to climb
another 10 seconds.
I found power loss again for 1-2 second and then it continued to climb
with full power at 5000 rpm. I landed immediately and taxied around
the airport for 15 minutes . The engine ran very smooth on the
ground. The spark plugs have been used for about 50 hrs.
I had 400 hrs on the engine, been using 100 LL for months with TPC.
Could it be air in the fuel circuit, damage of the plug wires, fuel
impurities ?
Grateful for your advice.
thomas. Vixen 912UL.
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| Subject: | Re:Kitfox list:engine problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Floran Higgins" <CliffH@outdrs.net>
I had this same problem with a 912UL.
The floats were sticking in the Carburetors.
After I overhauled the carbs I didn't have any more problems.
Floran H.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Lee" <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re:Kitfox list:engine problem
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Thomas Lee <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
>
> Yesterday when I took off with full throttle, at about 350 ft the
> engine loss power for 1 to 2 second and then resumed power to climb
> another 10 seconds.
> I found power loss again for 1-2 second and then it continued to climb
> with full power at 5000 rpm. I landed immediately and taxied around
> the airport for 15 minutes . The engine ran very smooth on the
> ground. The spark plugs have been used for about 50 hrs.
>
> I had 400 hrs on the engine, been using 100 LL for months with TPC.
> Could it be air in the fuel circuit, damage of the plug wires, fuel
> impurities ?
> Grateful for your advice.
>
> thomas. Vixen 912UL.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Spinner help cooling? |
Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 07:04:28 -0600
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
I read an article in which the author explained how a spinner will direct the air
flow into the cowl. He spoke of how the prop hub will act like a dam and can
actually restrict the air flow sending the air every which way with out a spinner.
I do not know if this is true but when I thought about it, it seem possible.
I think its like a piece of duct work with no turning veins on the corner.
Any way for what its worth as it was interesting reading.
Dee Young
Model II N345DY
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| Subject: | Re: No records Annual needed? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Howard,
Another approach would be to tell them that you built it from scratch
using parts you acquired locally. It won't be listed as a "Kitfox"
in the FAA's records, but you should be able to convince them of its
legitimacy with a notarized affidavit that you bought miscellaneous
parts. They should issue a repairman's certificate if you can show
that you built the majority of it (shouldn't be hard if you built it
from parts :-)
Hope this is helpful.
Mike G.
N728KF
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: No records Annual needed?
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
><Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
> >
> > Howard what can you do to register your plane?
> >
> > Does anyone know how can one can annual from an A&P when the service
>records
> > cannot be located.
> >
> > Robert
>
>
>So far, I don't know what else I can do....I did finally contact the FAA
>Registry on the phone and was told that my application was going to have to
>go "Upstairs" to be approved, but it was turned down anyway....I last sent a
>notarized statement explaining everything about one month ago....have yet to
>hear back.
>
>Howard
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
The 3M glue that I got with my kit is about 11 years old. I need to glue a small
stainless steel plate to my longeron. Anything out there that is good for this
job? I would hate to order more 3M for such a small job. Jeff Classic IV
Jeffrey Puls
pulsair@mindspring.com
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
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| Subject: | Terra Documentation |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Sure would appreciate copies of the documentation for the Terra
Avionics...the ones with the little push button wheels on the front. Glad to
pay for the copying and mailing.
Regards,
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: Tension vs. compression |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
"John E. King" wrote:
> My experience with tension springs is that they can become stretched
Thanks John, Bruce and Kurt. The only other application of a compression spring
I know of, is the small yacht's shock-absorbing mooring spring. There too, a
failure of the spring could be very dangerous and the compression type is the safest.
I was just wondering why the tension type is used at all in aviation and why
the guy who built my plane chose those ones.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Rotax 912 series engines |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
List Members with 912 series Engines
I was just going through the latest AVWeb and found this
info that pertains to the Rotax 912 series engines. This an
FAA directive regarding the requirement for certain
inspections, new oil dipstick and venting of the lubrication
system. The issue of the dipstick was covered on this list
about a year ago --- but I have not seen anything on the
venting requirement or the fact that some engines have
failed due to the high pressure build up through the valve
push rods resulting in damage to the valve train components.
The link below will take you directly to the proposed AD.
The do not specifically mention the 912UL but the 912S, 912F
and 914F are mentioned as requiring action.
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rg
ADNPRM.nsf/0/D81446ADFA7F147886256EEE004A7206?OpenDocument
Ted
Edmonton, Ab
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| Subject: | thread sealer for poly header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
I'm looking for advice on the proper thread sealer/lube to use when
installing the brass fittings in my header tank. It's the stock Skystar
unit. I've been told to use anaerobic type sealers and I've been told not
to use anaerobic type. Those type are great for metal to metal, but I can't
find out if they're suitable for polyethylene.
Loctite makes a lot of different types of thread sealers and I've done a lot
of searching but I can't find anything that specifically says it's ok to use
with poly/brass.
Another I've found is Rectorseal #5, but I can't find any of that locally
nor am I sure it would be suitable either. When I install these fittings I
only want to do it once and I don't want them to leak/seep. I hate the
smell of fuel in the cockpit.
Anybody have any good advice or source? Any input would be appreciated.
Darrel
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| Subject: | Re: Low fuel alarm |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Thanks "flier". That helps.
Darrel
----- Original Message -----
From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
<kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Well, it'd be simple if my diagrams came out right!
>
> The 'test' switch goes in parallel with the float
> switch...
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
> From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>, <kitfox-
> list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier"
> <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
> >
> >It's pretty simple:
> >
> >+12V-------lamp-------float switch------ground
> > | |
> > | |
> > ---test switch---
> >
> >--- Original Message ---
> >From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm
> >
> >>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
> ><morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> >>
> >>Good enough for me Lowell. Thanks. I'll stick
> with
> >the mechanical reed
> >>switch. On that note, do you or anybody else out
> >there have a schematic
> >>handy that could be scanned and emailed via attch
> to
> >me? Would be
> >>appreciated.
> >>Darrel
> >>
> >>> Darrel,
> >>>
> >>> The late Ray Volk had the optical sensor. This
> is
> >his story as he told it
> >>> to me at one of my early Cameron Park Fly-ins.
> >>>
> >>> His was functioning normally - no alarms - but
> >decided to check it out at
> >>> one of his annual inspections. He drained the
> >tank and unscrewed the
> >>unit.
> >>> He found a string like filament extending from
> the
> >fitting down into his
> >>> tank. As he pulled this "string" out it was
> >attached on the end to a mass
> >>> resembling a "Hershey's Kiss". It was what was
> >left of his optical sensor
> >>> as something in his fuel had dissolved it and it
> >sank to the bottom of
> >>his
> >>> header tank forming the blob at the end of the
> >descending string.
> >>>
> >>> He scrupulously used auto fuel. Often hitch
> >hiking several times into
> >>town
> >>> with his collapsible tank to fuel his Series 5.
> >He flew a lot and was all
> >>> over the US, once getting the long distance award
> >from the Skystar fly-in
> >>> having flown a very circuitous route from his
> home
> >in phoenix to Caldwell
> >>> something like 2500 miles.
> >>>
> >>> I have never heard of this happening to anyone
> >else, so it might not be an
> >>> issue today with this unit.
> >>>
> >>> Lowell
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> >>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
> >><morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks Ted. I appreciate the input. I checked
> >out the site below and
> >>> that
> >>> > switch looks like it would do the job nicely.
> >Some people use the
> >>optical
> >>> > sensor which would probably do fine also, but
> >I've read where some had
> >>> > trouble keeping the ambient light from setting
> >it off. Then again, it
> >>> would
> >>> > appear an advantage is that there are no moving
> >parts. Does anybody
> >>know
> >>> if
> >>> > there's a failure possiblity with the optical
> >type? Then again, if it
> >>> quits
> >>> > working, what's the harm?
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> > Darrel
> >>> > S5
> >>> >
> >>> > > If you can put a 1/2" NPT fitting toward the
> >top of
> >>> > > your tank the simplest is the float switch.
> >The 15-
> >>> > > 650-AC from Compac Engineering is available
> >from
> >>> > > Durable Controls at (800) 365-0033 for $36.
> >>> > > http://www.durablecontrols.com. All you need
> >is a
> >>> > > 12v lamp to complete the system. The
> Accipter
> >sensor
> >>> > > used that switch in an external bottle. I
> >pulled my
> >>> > > switch out and installed it in the tank. I
> >think I
> >>> > > still have the aluminum bottle laying
> around.
> >It
> >>> > > mounts in the header return line.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I've had one in my Kitfox header for years
> and
> >it
> >>> > > works well. I also put one in my Nieuport
> >tank.
> >>> > > It's pretty fool-proof.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Regards,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Ted
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >I'm installing a new header tank shortly and
> >I'd
> >>> > > like to also install a low
> >>> > > >fuel indicator while I'm at it. Couple
> >questions
> >>> > > for those who've been
> >>> > > >there.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Who can supply a complete kit? Skystar
> >doesn't
> >>> > > seem to be responding
> >>> > > >very well these days.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > I understand that I can go with either
> >Reed
> >>> > > Switch or Optical type.
> >>> > > >Which is better?
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > If I decide to build my own unit, can
> >anybody
> >>> > > give me a parts list of
> >>> > > >the items I would need?
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Does anybody have a low fuel indicator
> >that
> >>> > > they've decided not to use?
> >>> > > >Email me offlist if you have one for sale.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > I've got 268 hours on my S5 and I've had
> >no fuel
> >>> > > flow problems. Are
> >>> > > >these things really worth the bother?
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >Thanks for any help.
> >>> > > >Darrel
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "roger augenstein" <raugenstein@fuse.net>
Jeff,
I have used JB Weld available in most hwde stores. I do not think it is
quite as good, but I maybe wrong as it has not failed in my few
applications.
Roger Series 5 KY
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: 3M Glue
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
>
> The 3M glue that I got with my kit is about 11 years old. I need to glue a
small stainless steel plate to my longeron. Anything out there that is good
for this job? I would hate to order more 3M for such a small job. Jeff
Classic IV
>
>
> Jeffrey Puls
> pulsair@mindspring.com
> Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
>
>
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| Subject: | thread sealer for poly header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Brookes" <pdbrookes@blueyonder.co.uk>
Darrel,
I recently installed the same tank. The only thing that worked for me was
teflon tape, but you have to be careful to ensure you don't get any in the
tank!!
Pete.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Kitfox-List: thread sealer for poly header tank
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> I'm looking for advice on the proper thread sealer/lube to use when
> installing the brass fittings in my header tank. It's the stock Skystar
> unit. I've been told to use anaerobic type sealers and I've been told not
> to use anaerobic type. Those type are great for metal to metal, but I
can't
> find out if they're suitable for polyethylene.
> Loctite makes a lot of different types of thread sealers and I've done a
lot
> of searching but I can't find anything that specifically says it's ok to
use
> with poly/brass.
> Another I've found is Rectorseal #5, but I can't find any of that locally
> nor am I sure it would be suitable either. When I install these fittings
I
> only want to do it once and I don't want them to leak/seep. I hate the
> smell of fuel in the cockpit.
> Anybody have any good advice or source? Any input would be appreciated.
> Darrel
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Kitfox list:engine problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "neflyer48" <neflyer48@cableone.net>
A good way to test it out would be to tie the tail down and run the engine
at full throttle for a few minutes. Any problems will likely show up without
endangering anyone.
Jerry Kohles M3-912
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Lee" <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re:Kitfox list:engine problem
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Thomas Lee <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
>
> Yesterday when I took off with full throttle, at about 350 ft the
> engine loss power for 1 to 2 second and then resumed power to climb
> another 10 seconds.
> I found power loss again for 1-2 second and then it continued to climb
> with full power at 5000 rpm. I landed immediately and taxied around
> the airport for 15 minutes . The engine ran very smooth on the
> ground. The spark plugs have been used for about 50 hrs.
>
> I had 400 hrs on the engine, been using 100 LL for months with TPC.
> Could it be air in the fuel circuit, damage of the plug wires, fuel
> impurities ?
> Grateful for your advice.
>
> thomas. Vixen 912UL.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: thread sealer for poly header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Darrel, I used FuelLube.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Kitfox-List: thread sealer for poly header tank
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> I'm looking for advice on the proper thread sealer/lube to use when
> installing the brass fittings in my header tank. It's the stock Skystar
> unit. I've been told to use anaerobic type sealers and I've been told not
> to use anaerobic type. Those type are great for metal to metal, but I
can't
> find out if they're suitable for polyethylene.
> Loctite makes a lot of different types of thread sealers and I've done a
lot
> of searching but I can't find anything that specifically says it's ok to
use
> with poly/brass.
> Another I've found is Rectorseal #5, but I can't find any of that locally
> nor am I sure it would be suitable either. When I install these fittings
I
> only want to do it once and I don't want them to leak/seep. I hate the
> smell of fuel in the cockpit.
> Anybody have any good advice or source? Any input would be appreciated.
> Darrel
>
>
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| Subject: | I agree totally with you on the compression springs and no |
slack in the
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
I agree totally with you on the compression springs and no slack in the
chains..
Sounds good to me but I wonder about the possible increased stress on the
cables. What does everyone think about that aspect. Also I wonder about the
above because eventually I want to get rid of that noisy and rough original
solid Maule SFSA tail wheel. I'm interested in those soft rubber Homebuilder
ones from Aircraft Spruce too but can't find out if they are aluminium or
glorified plastic.
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Low fuel level indicator. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
+12V-------lamp-------float switch------ground
| |
| |
---test switch---
Isn't that a mistake if you put a switch across the lamp and close it and
the float switch was also closed [ low level ] you would get one hell of a
current flow through things. Poof ! I think you meant to put the test
switch across the float switch.
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Sunday Fly in at E. Hampton NY |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian" <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
Is any one going to E. Hampton NY fly in this sunday? 8-22-04. 11 am- 4 pm.
Should be an awesome day to fly after all this wind and rain.
See you there
Jay Fabian
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| Subject: | I take to occasion to mention that I still haven't heard |
from Aircraft Spruce
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Neither have I. I'm in Australia. We have a new agent who kindly sent me the
catalogue before he would have got my money but hasn't responded re tail
wheels. Neither has Aircraft Spruce to two E'mails. I'm trying to find out
what the soft rubber Homebuilders replacement wheels 06-03500 4" dia and
06-03600 6"dia wheel rims are made of. Are they aluminiun or steel or
plastic ? I'd really like more confirmation too if the 4" and 6" refers to
rim size or outside dia of the tyre as I want use one to replace my solid
original Maule SFSA wheel only. Not the whole assembly. I would have liked
to put a pnematic tyre on but I don't think there is space. There is only
room to swing about 150mm overal dia. I did get some feedback from the list
once for which I am real greatefull but it was inconcluvive because at that
time I couldn't say exactly what wheel I had. I have since found out it is
Maule SFSA. I actually found a small crumpled up silver blob on it that
unfolded to be a sticker that one could actually read believe it or not.
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 series engines |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXPILOT@att.net
-------------- Original message from "Ted Palamarek" : --------------
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek"
>
> List Members with 912 series Engines
>
> I was just going through the latest AVWeb and found this
> info that pertains to the Rotax 912 series engines. This an
> FAA directive regarding the requirement for certain
> inspections, new oil dipstick and venting of the lubrication
> system. The issue of the dipstick was covered on this list
> about a year ago --- but I have not seen anything on the
> venting requirement or the fact that some engines have
> failed due to the high pressure build up through the valve
> push rods resulting in damage to the valve train components.
> The link below will take you directly to the proposed AD.
> The do not specifically mention the 912UL but the 912S, 912F
> and 914F are mentioned as requiring action.
>
> http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rg
> ADNPRM.nsf/0/D81446ADFA7F147886256EEE004A7206?OpenDocument
>
> Ted
> Edmonton, Ab
> I think they refer to the venting as a method of insurring all the air is out
of the oil system after you have say disconnected the oil cooler and maybe the
the gearbox, but I will have to ask Lockwood about the one.
>
>
>
>
>
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-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <TEMCO@TELUSPLANET.NET>
List Members with 912 series Engines
I was just going through the latest AVWeb and found this
info that pertains to the Rotax 912 series engines. This an
FAA directive regarding the requirement for certain
inspections, new oil dipstick and venting of the lubrication
system. The issue of the dipstick was covered on this list
about a year ago --- but I have not seen anything on the
venting requirement or the fact that some engines have
failed due to the high pressure build up through the valve
push rods resulting in damage to the valve train components.
The link below will take you directly to the
proposed AD.
The do not specifically mention the 912UL but the 912S, 912F
and 914F are mentioned as requiring action.
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rg
ADNPRM.nsf/0/D81446ADFA7F147886256EEE004A7206?OpenDocument
Ted
Edmonton, Ab
I think they refer to the venting as a method of insurring all the air is out
of the oil system after youhave say disconnected the oil cooler and maybe the
the gearbox, butI will have to ask Lockwood about the one.
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| Subject: | Re: thread sealer for poly header tank |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Darrel,
I tried some blue RTV automotive sealant when I first
put mine together. I got seven leaks right off. I
then tried a tube of teflon paste, which doesn't come
off in strings like the tape, and never had a problem
since.
Like Pete says, don't put it on the inner most
threads. It is a good idea to install the fittings
dry first and see how many threads don't go in. Then
remove and seal up to the next 3 threads, but not to
the inner end.
The tape works very well too. I don't think any fuel
type will bother it. But I think the paste is a bit
safer. I've heard that some inspectors won't "pass"
your plane if using the tape too.
Kurt S. S05/NSI turbo
--- Peter Brookes <pdbrookes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Darrel,
>
> I recently installed the same tank. The only thing
> that worked for me was teflon tape, but you have to
> be careful to ensure you don't get any in the
> tank!!
>
> Pete.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fox5flyer
> Subject: thread sealer for poly header tank
>
> > I'm looking for advice on the proper thread
> sealer/lube to use when installing the brass
> > fittings in my header tank.....
> > Darrel
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| Subject: | Re: Tension vs. compression |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Michel,
The tension springs come with the kit. Your builder
just used what was provided. I suppose the
compression springs are an upgrade? The club Champ I
have been flying has tension springs too. Yuk!
Kurt S.
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
........
> I was just wondering why the tension type is used at
> all in aviation and why the guy who built my plane
> chose those ones.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Spinner help cooling? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Dee,
I agree, it "could" help, but the prop blade roots
really beat the air into submission around the
intakes. So I think it may be a coin toss whether is
helps or not.
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- Dee Young <henrysfork1@msn.com> wrote:
> I read an article in which the author explained how
> a spinner will direct the air flow into the cowl. He
> spoke of how the prop hub will act like a dam and
> can actually restrict the air flow sending the air
> every which way with out a spinner. I do not know if
> this is true but when I thought about it, it seem
> possible. I think its like a piece of duct work with
> no turning veins on the corner. Any way for what its
> worth as it was interesting reading.
>
> Dee Young
> Model II N345DY
>
> Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re:Kitfox list:engine problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Hi Thomas
Do you mean 5500 rpm redline?
I had similar symptoms due to vapor lock. The gascolator was mounted on the
lower right (from pilots point of view) corner of the fire wall. That puts
it right next to the muffler. An aluminum baffle solved the problem.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Lee" <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re:Kitfox list:engine problem
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Thomas Lee <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
>
> Yesterday when I took off with full throttle, at about 350 ft the
> engine loss power for 1 to 2 second and then resumed power to climb
> another 10 seconds.
> I found power loss again for 1-2 second and then it continued to climb
> with full power at 5000 rpm. I landed immediately and taxied around
> the airport for 15 minutes . The engine ran very smooth on the
> ground. The spark plugs have been used for about 50 hrs.
>
> I had 400 hrs on the engine, been using 100 LL for months with TPC.
> Could it be air in the fuel circuit, damage of the plug wires, fuel
> impurities ?
> Grateful for your advice.
>
> thomas. Vixen 912UL.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Kitfox list:engine problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Thomas
Another recollection....a stuck float should effect only one carb and cause
very rough running due to the uneven fuel delivery to each side of the
engine. and this would be most evedent at idle, not at full power.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Lee" <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re:Kitfox list:engine problem
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Thomas Lee <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
>
> Yesterday when I took off with full throttle, at about 350 ft the
> engine loss power for 1 to 2 second and then resumed power to climb
> another 10 seconds.
> I found power loss again for 1-2 second and then it continued to climb
> with full power at 5000 rpm. I landed immediately and taxied around
> the airport for 15 minutes . The engine ran very smooth on the
> ground. The spark plugs have been used for about 50 hrs.
>
> I had 400 hrs on the engine, been using 100 LL for months with TPC.
> Could it be air in the fuel circuit, damage of the plug wires, fuel
> impurities ?
> Grateful for your advice.
>
> thomas. Vixen 912UL.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: I take to occasion to mention that I still haven't heard |
from Aircraft Spruce
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Rex
The home builders is just like the Maule. The bearings press in to the
solid rubber tire. The inches are an outside diameter measure
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: I take to occasion to mention that I still haven't
heard from Aircraft Spruce
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
>
> Neither have I. I'm in Australia. We have a new agent who kindly sent me
the
> catalogue before he would have got my money but hasn't responded re tail
> wheels. Neither has Aircraft Spruce to two E'mails. I'm trying to find out
> what the soft rubber Homebuilders replacement wheels 06-03500 4" dia and
> 06-03600 6"dia wheel rims are made of. Are they aluminiun or steel or
> plastic ? I'd really like more confirmation too if the 4" and 6" refers
to
> rim size or outside dia of the tyre as I want use one to replace my solid
> original Maule SFSA wheel only. Not the whole assembly. I would have liked
> to put a pnematic tyre on but I don't think there is space. There is only
> room to swing about 150mm overal dia. I did get some feedback from the
list
> once for which I am real greatefull but it was inconcluvive because at
that
> time I couldn't say exactly what wheel I had. I have since found out it is
> Maule SFSA. I actually found a small crumpled up silver blob on it that
> unfolded to be a sticker that one could actually read believe it or not.
> Rex.
> rexjan@bigpond.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Kitfox list:engine problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Thomas Lee <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
My 912 UL never reaches 5500 rpm with Warp Drive propellor, only 5300
. There is no gascolator in the Vixen.
thomas.
>
>Hi Thomas
>
>Do you mean 5500 rpm redline?
>
>I had similar symptoms due to vapor lock. The gascolator was mounted on the
>lower right (from pilots point of view) corner of the fire wall. That puts
>it right next to the muffler. An aluminum baffle solved the problem.
>
>Jim Shumaker
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Thomas Lee" <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
>To: "kitfox" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Re:Kitfox list:engine problem
>
>
>
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Thomas Lee <thomasleekf@comcast.net>
>>
>>Yesterday when I took off with full throttle, at about 350 ft the
>>engine loss power for 1 to 2 second and then resumed power to climb
>>another 10 seconds.
>>I found power loss again for 1-2 second and then it continued to climb
>>with full power at 5000 rpm. I landed immediately and taxied around
>>the airport for 15 minutes . The engine ran very smooth on the
>>ground. The spark plugs have been used for about 50 hrs.
>>
>>I had 400 hrs on the engine, been using 100 LL for months with TPC.
>>Could it be air in the fuel circuit, damage of the plug wires, fuel
>>impurities ?
>>Grateful for your advice.
>>
>>thomas. Vixen 912UL.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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