---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/26/04: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:06 AM - I'd be very glad if you could link me to somebody who sells balloon tires (Rex & Jan Shaw) 2. 02:27 AM - SV: [Off-topic] FM vs. AM (Michel Verheughe) 3. 01:59 PM - Off Topic (Ted Palamarek) 4. 02:19 PM - Re: Off Topic (Ron) 5. 03:05 PM - AM-FM and why? (Clint Bazzill) 6. 03:29 PM - Re: Off Topic (Scott McClintock) 7. 03:49 PM - Re: Off Topic (RICHARD HUTSON) 8. 05:15 PM - Re: Off Topic (AlbertaIV@aol.com) 9. 05:31 PM - Re: Off Topic (Scott McClintock) 10. 05:48 PM - We're now trying to find a source for the rubber (Rex & Jan Shaw) 11. 06:00 PM - Re: Off Topic (RICHARD HUTSON) 12. 07:00 PM - Attachments??? (Randy Daughenbaugh) 13. 08:41 PM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 35 Msgs - 08/25/04 ( heng shin tires) (Stu Bryant) 14. 08:48 PM - Re: [Off-topic] FM vs. AM (jimshumaker) 15. 08:56 PM - Re: [Off-topic] FM vs. AM (jimshumaker) 16. 08:57 PM - Re: AM-FM and why? (jimshumaker) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:24 AM PST US From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" Subject: Kitfox-List: I'd be very glad if you could link me to somebody who sells balloon tires --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" I imagine it is the old buffed down 20 x 7 x 8 ATV tires you can't find. I'd gladly give you some but I'm in Australia. I changed them because they only have to look at grass and they get a leak due to prickles. They are only 2 ply. Now I have put on lawnmower tyres that are 18 x 6.5 x 8. They are 4 ply and have a very mild tread. You can also readilly get tubes for them. Much much better. Also they only cost $63AU each Rex. rexjan@bigpond.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:03 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: [Off-topic] FM vs. AM --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > From: jimshumaker [jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net] > Even our long distant transmissions are limited. About the greatest > distance we use is 50 to 100 miles for flight following, IFR or weather. I > suspect that is not very far in a long distance boat trip. At sea, it is mostly the height of the antenna that gives the range, Jim. On the top of my mast, I have maybe a range of 40 NM although, in good conditions (high pressure) I have received signals over 150 NM. Mind you, coastal stations send with more power than the vessels. If I can hear them it doesn't mean they can hear me. I am still not too sure about the difference between maritime and aviation needs for VHF communication. In both cases, the closest station should cover the furthest, which it does, both in FM and AM. I have one good argument for aviation AM, though. When we fly here, in uncontrolled area, we are asked to transmit blind our position and altitude on 123.50, which is our Norwegian Aero Club frequency for GA. When I monitor that frequency, I know that a weak signal that I can barely hear is a plane far away. A strong signal, on the other hand, means that the plane is close and that I better look out for it. That is not possible with FM that will either, give a good signal, or nothing. Are we getting anywhere here? Cheers, Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:59:39 PM PST US From: "Ted Palamarek" Subject: Kitfox-List: Off Topic --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" Haven't seen anything all day ---- hymmm is the list dead??? DO NOT ARCHIVE Ted ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:05 PM PST US From: "Ron" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Off Topic --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron" No way..........can't fly today; bad WX, so I'm cleaning my garage....yuck. Ron DO NOT ARCHIVE " > > Haven't seen anything all day ---- hymmm is the list dead??? > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > Ted ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:05:57 PM PST US From: "Clint Bazzill" Subject: Kitfox-List: AM-FM and why? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" This may have been addressed but, When the FAA decided to use AM it was for good reason. The way that FM is demodulated it will lock on to the strongest signal and any other signal will not be heard. It is important that all stations be heard and the interference is to let you know you are not alone. Clint ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:42 PM PST US From: Scott McClintock Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Off Topic --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock And then.....Some of us must actually work. Scott in Nome DO NOT ARCHIVE Ron wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron" > > No way..........can't fly today; bad WX, so I'm cleaning my garage....yuck. > > Ron > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > " > > > > Haven't seen anything all day ---- hymmm is the list dead??? > > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > Ted > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:28 PM PST US From: "RICHARD HUTSON" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Off Topic --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RICHARD HUTSON" Well said Scott!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott McClintock" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Off Topic > And then.....Some of us must actually work. > Scott in Nome > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:26 PM PST US From: AlbertaIV@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Off Topic --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com In a message dated 8/26/04 3:50:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rhutson@midsouth.rr.com writes: > > > And then.....Some of us must actually work. > > Scott in Nome > > > > How do you spell that? Retired at 58 Don Smythe DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:09 PM PST US From: Scott McClintock Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Off Topic --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock Don, I've "retired" two times already. Judging by your comment, I still have 9 years yet to go. :- ) Scott in Nome DO NOT ARCHIVE AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote: > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com > > In a message dated 8/26/04 3:50:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > rhutson@midsouth.rr.com writes: > > > > > > And then.....Some of us must actually work. > > > Scott in Nome > > > > > > > > > How do you spell that? > > Retired at 58 > Don Smythe > DO NOT ARCHIVE > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:32 PM PST US From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" Subject: Kitfox-List: We're now trying to find a source for the rubber --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" Try www.air-techinc.com go to engine stuff then sparkplugs then sparkplug wire and caps. I think the NGK caps and rubbers are only about $2.50 for non resistor type and $4.50 for resistor type. Rex. rexjan@bigpond.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:00:01 PM PST US From: "RICHARD HUTSON" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Off Topic --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RICHARD HUTSON" HONEY DO THIS!!! FOR RETIRED FOLKS > > And then.....Some of us must actually work. > > Scott in Nome > How do you spell that? > > Retired at 58 > Don Smythe > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:00:40 PM PST US From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" Subject: Kitfox-List: Attachments??? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" I thought we were not supposed to get attachments. The last 8 emails from the list have had attachments. I think they are just the prior messages, but,,,,, Is it just me? Randy . ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:41:01 PM PST US From: "Stu Bryant" Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 35 Msgs - 08/25/04 ( heng shin tires) --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Stu Bryant" Might try looking for CHENG Shin tires. They are still around. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:29 PM PST US From: "jimshumaker" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: [Off-topic] FM vs. AM --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" I don't understand why we havn't changed to metric so that wud hav baffled me. Jim Shumaker ----- Original Message ----- From: "kurt schrader" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: [Off-topic] FM vs. AM > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader > > Jim, > > Most excellent answer. Much better than the argument > of why we still haven't converted to the metric system > I was thinking of. :-) > > Kurt S. > Do not archive. > > --- jimshumaker wrote: > > > Michel > > > > Lowell is right about infrastructure, to a degree. > > > > On the AM radio thing, ........ > > > > In the US, many small airports use the same > > frequency. I can hear planes calling for two or > > three different airports at a time. The airports > > are usually 20 to 50 miles apart. When I call in > > to the little airport I know I will be heard..... > > > > Also, when two transmissions occur together on AM > > there is a distinct squeal..... > > On FM that squeal does not exist....... > > with no audible indication that an interference has > > occurred......... With FM there is no indication > that > > there are two radios interfering with each other. > > > > Jim Shumaker > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:56:20 PM PST US From: "jimshumaker" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: [Off-topic] FM vs. AM --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" Michel Yes, as you say Michel, the higher the antenna the greater the range and therefore the greater the interference distance. With an airplane you are almost always much higher than 40 feet, at least if power lines are in the area. With FM you may not override another signal even though they are much further away. and worse you would not know that there were two planes talking at once. See Clint's response he sums it up succinctly. Jim Shumaker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Verheughe" Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: [Off-topic] FM vs. AM > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe > > > From: jimshumaker [jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net] > > Even our long distant transmissions are limited. About the greatest > > distance we use is 50 to 100 miles for flight following, IFR or weather. I > > suspect that is not very far in a long distance boat trip. > > At sea, it is mostly the height of the antenna that gives the range, Jim. On the top of my mast, I have maybe a range of 40 NM although, in good conditions (high pressure) I have received signals over 150 NM. Mind you, coastal stations send with more power than the vessels. If I can hear them it doesn't mean they can hear me. > > I am still not too sure about the difference between maritime and aviation needs for VHF communication. In both cases, the closest station should cover the furthest, which it does, both in FM and AM. > I have one good argument for aviation AM, though. When we fly here, in uncontrolled area, we are asked to transmit blind our position and altitude on 123.50, which is our Norwegian Aero Club frequency for GA. When I monitor that frequency, I know that a weak signal that I can barely hear is a plane far away. A strong signal, on the other hand, means that the plane is close and that I better look out for it. That is not possible with FM that will either, give a good signal, or nothing. > > Are we getting anywhere here? > > Cheers, > Michel > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:57:49 PM PST US From: "jimshumaker" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: AM-FM and why? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" Well said Clint. Jim Shumaker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clint Bazzill" Subject: Kitfox-List: AM-FM and why? > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" > > This may have been addressed but, > > When the FAA decided to use AM it was for good reason. The way that FM is demodulated it will lock on to the strongest signal and any other signal will not be heard. It is important that all stations be heard and the interference is to let you know you are not alone. > > Clint > >