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1. 02:07 AM - Re: Off Topic (broschart)
2. 03:34 AM - Re: Buyin' a plane.... (Lynn Matteson)
3. 06:14 AM - Ellison Carb; was: engine problem (Clifford Begnaud)
4. 07:27 AM - Re: Ellison Carb; was: engine problem (Lowell Fitt)
5. 08:02 AM - Re: Buyin' a plane.... (kurt schrader)
6. 09:09 AM - Re: Low fuel alarm (STEPHEN ZAKRESKI)
7. 09:30 AM - fairings (N53dw@aol.com)
8. 10:04 AM - Re: Ellison Carb; was: engine problem (Clifford Begnaud)
9. 10:13 AM - Panel mount glove box (Flybradair@cs.com)
10. 10:33 AM - Re: Low fuel alarm (Fox5flyer)
11. 10:49 AM - Re: Panel mount glove box (Fox5flyer)
12. 11:35 AM - Kitfox needed (Larry Huntley)
13. 01:22 PM - Re: Ellison Carb; was: engine problem (Rick)
14. 01:26 PM - Re: fairings (Rick)
15. 03:25 PM - Re: Kitfox needed (Steve Cooper)
16. 05:42 PM - Re: Buyin' a plane.... (Lynn Matteson)
17. 05:51 PM - ASI / Static ports (jareds)
18. 05:57 PM - Colonial Beach, VA Kitfox (jareds)
19. 06:42 PM - Re: Colonial Beach, VA Kitfox (Rick Bowen)
20. 06:43 PM - i'm planning to send mine to the scrap yard when i finish with it the liability (Rex & Jan Shaw)
21. 07:30 PM - Re: Panel mount glove box (Grant Fluent)
22. 07:51 PM - Boilerplate:Help! (Steve Cooper)
23. 07:58 PM - Re: Buyin' a plane.... (Don Pearsall)
24. 09:15 PM - Re: Buyin' a plane.... (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
25. 09:21 PM - Re: ASI / Static ports (jimshumaker)
26. 09:34 PM - Re: ASI / Static ports (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
27. 09:51 PM - Re: Buyin' a plane.... (Bruce Harrington)
28. 10:05 PM - Re: [Off-topic] FM vs. AM (jimshumaker)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: broschart <cfbflyer@localnet.com>
to be healthy you need responsibility
keep working as long as your able to
Have a good day - Charlie
Jeff Thomas wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeff Thomas" <jeffthomas@ntlworld.com>
>
> Careful!
>
> "WORK" is a four letter word... so don't use it too often!
>
> Jeff
>
> Do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Off Topic
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
> >
> > In a message dated 8/26/04 3:50:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > rhutson@midsouth.rr.com writes:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > And then.....Some of us must actually work.
> > > > Scott in Nome
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > How do you spell that?
> >
> > Retired at 58
> > Don Smythe
> > DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
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| Subject: | Re: Buyin' a plane.... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I bought a IV speedster that is still in the building stage....no
engine, uncovered, etc., but all the stuff is there....and "all the
stuff" is stuffed into my little 21' motorhome, and I had to go to a
motel the first night of the trip (from Texas to Michigan). This was
the first time in seven years of motorhome ownership that I'd checked
into a motel...talk about sticker shock! I may write about the trip
once I get back down to earth, so to speak, if anyone's
interested...shouldn't take long as the whole trip lasted a little less
than 4 days.
Lynn
do not archive
On Monday, August 23, 2004, at 08:07 PM, Don Pearsall wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall"
> <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
> Lynn,
> What are you buying? Pre-built, kit, what??
> Don Pearsall
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn
> Matteson
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Buyin' a plane....
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> To the group in general-
> I'm off to buy a IV, and I'm floatin' on air.....
>
> Lynn
>
>
> _-
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> _-
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> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Ellison Carb; was: engine problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
I have always found the idea of using the Ellison on the 912 an intriguing
idea. Mainly because I live and fly out of high elevation airports and
wanted the ability to set mixture. It's not as much of an issue if you don't
fly high. The big problem is getting a custom manifold made. (you would only
need one Ellison) Of course it might be cheaper to have two Ellison's than
to engineer a manifold for one.
Now that our Rotax powered kitfox is gone and we're flying behind a Lycoming
with an Ellison, the idea is even more intriguing. I really like the
operation of the Ellison and haven't found a single problem with it yet. I
haven't noticed the problem mentioned by Lowell, but maybe that's because I
never aggressively jam the throttle in. Can't imagine why anyone would want
to do that. I have done all the normal stuff including quick go-arounds etc
and never had a problem.
As for fuel pressure; with low fuel and a steep climb the engine just keeps
on ticking even without the fuel pump turned on. This is on gravity feed
alone as ours has no mechanical fuel pump on the engine. (yes we have an
electric pump, but I've tested operations without it)
Finally, is the way this thing starts... easier and quicker than a new car.
Part of the credit for this goes to the dual Lightspeed electronic
ignitions, but I think part of the credit also goes to the Ellison. Every
time I take someone flying that normally flies behind Lycomings or
Continentals, they are just blown away at how quick and easy this engine
starts (Lyc 0-235) and how smoothly it runs. Even after being cold soaked
overnight at 20 F, it will hand start with just one flip, with no
preheating! (I have only done this once to see if it would work) Again, part
of the credit for this goes to the ignitions but I make this comparison
because the Rotax has dual electronic ignitions. This Lycoming ALWAYS starts
much easier than any 912 I've ever seen (and I've seen quite a few). That's
not to say that 912's are hard to start, they are not if properly adjusted,
it's just that our Lyc starts noticeably easier.
Anyway, I just thought I would add some fodder to this discussion. By the
time someone figures out a way to put an Ellison on the 912, Rotax will
probably have come out with fuel injection.
Now if only Rotax would come out with a new normally aspirated engine that
makes about 130 hp and weighs about 160 lbs; electronic ignition, Ellison
carb, gearbox (so we can use the composite props already out there), auto
gas compatible.....ohhhh baby!
Cliff
Erie, CO
Kitfox Outback, Lyc 0-235, 350 hours
>
> Rick, I don't understand this recommendation. The Carbs on the Rotax 912
> UL are nearly bulletproof. There have been very few problems associated
> with this set-up. If I remember correctly, with the Ellison, there are
> fuel pressure issues and some reports of hesitation when hitting the
> throttle too aggressively. Why mess with success?
>
> Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Ellison Carb; was: engine problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Thanks Cliff, I guess there are set-ups out there that work as designed /
planned. I guess my point has to do with the idea that there are different
sorts of pilots out there. Some fly, some tinker, some tinker to fly
better. I like to fly, although I would describe myself as an addicted
tinkerer. I don't think I would take on the project of fitting an Ellison
to my engine to avoid what has come up from time to time regarding Bing
carburetor problems.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Ellison Carb; was: engine problem
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
<shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
> I have always found the idea of using the Ellison on the 912 an intriguing
> idea. Mainly because I live and fly out of high elevation airports and
> wanted the ability to set mixture. It's not as much of an issue if you
don't
> fly high. The big problem is getting a custom manifold made. (you would
only
> need one Ellison) Of course it might be cheaper to have two Ellison's than
> to engineer a manifold for one.
>
> Now that our Rotax powered kitfox is gone and we're flying behind a
Lycoming
> with an Ellison, the idea is even more intriguing. I really like the
> operation of the Ellison and haven't found a single problem with it yet. I
> haven't noticed the problem mentioned by Lowell, but maybe that's because
I
> never aggressively jam the throttle in. Can't imagine why anyone would
want
> to do that. I have done all the normal stuff including quick go-arounds
etc
> and never had a problem.
> As for fuel pressure; with low fuel and a steep climb the engine just
keeps
> on ticking even without the fuel pump turned on. This is on gravity feed
> alone as ours has no mechanical fuel pump on the engine. (yes we have an
> electric pump, but I've tested operations without it)
>
> Finally, is the way this thing starts... easier and quicker than a new
car.
> Part of the credit for this goes to the dual Lightspeed electronic
> ignitions, but I think part of the credit also goes to the Ellison. Every
> time I take someone flying that normally flies behind Lycomings or
> Continentals, they are just blown away at how quick and easy this engine
> starts (Lyc 0-235) and how smoothly it runs. Even after being cold soaked
> overnight at 20 F, it will hand start with just one flip, with no
> preheating! (I have only done this once to see if it would work) Again,
part
> of the credit for this goes to the ignitions but I make this comparison
> because the Rotax has dual electronic ignitions. This Lycoming ALWAYS
starts
> much easier than any 912 I've ever seen (and I've seen quite a few).
That's
> not to say that 912's are hard to start, they are not if properly
adjusted,
> it's just that our Lyc starts noticeably easier.
> Anyway, I just thought I would add some fodder to this discussion. By the
> time someone figures out a way to put an Ellison on the 912, Rotax will
> probably have come out with fuel injection.
> Now if only Rotax would come out with a new normally aspirated engine that
> makes about 130 hp and weighs about 160 lbs; electronic ignition, Ellison
> carb, gearbox (so we can use the composite props already out there), auto
> gas compatible.....ohhhh baby!
> Cliff
> Erie, CO
> Kitfox Outback, Lyc 0-235, 350 hours
>
> >
> > Rick, I don't understand this recommendation. The Carbs on the Rotax
912
> > UL are nearly bulletproof. There have been very few problems associated
> > with this set-up. If I remember correctly, with the Ellison, there are
> > fuel pressure issues and some reports of hesitation when hitting the
> > throttle too aggressively. Why mess with success?
> >
> > Lowell
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Buyin' a plane.... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Lynn,
Things are pretty quiet, so now is a good time to tell
us more.
You must have a big door or window on that RV to get
everything in?
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
> I bought a IV speedster that is still in the
> building stage...."all the stuff" is stuffed into my
> little 21' motorhome.......
> I may write about the trip....if anyone's
> interested...shouldn't take long as the whole trip
> lasted a little less than 4 days.
>
> Lynn
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Low fuel alarm |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: STEPHEN ZAKRESKI <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Darrel
I have the Skystar optical sensor. Works great once the tank is painted black
and the sensor threads are wrapped with electrical tape. The sensor body is made
of clear plastic so light can leak through it. Once that was figured out,
no false alarms at all. I would use it again, although I seem to recall pricing
the sensor once and it was over $100. I'll try and get the sensor info when
I get out to the hangar, but that may not be for a couple of weeks.
SteveZ
Calgary
----- Original Message -----
From: Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> Thanks Ted. I appreciate the input. I checked out the site below
> and that
> switch looks like it would do the job nicely. Some people use the
> opticalsensor which would probably do fine also, but I've read
> where some had
> trouble keeping the ambient light from setting it off. Then
> again, it would
> appear an advantage is that there are no moving parts. Does
> anybody know if
> there's a failure possiblity with the optical type? Then again,
> if it quits
> working, what's the harm?
> Thanks,
> Darrel
> S5
>
> > If you can put a 1/2" NPT fitting toward the top of
> > your tank the simplest is the float switch. The 15-
> > 650-AC from Compac Engineering is available from
> > Durable Controls at (800) 365-0033 for $36.
> > http://www.durablecontrols.com. All you need is a
> > 12v lamp to complete the system. The Accipter sensor
> > used that switch in an external bottle. I pulled my
> > switch out and installed it in the tank. I think I
> > still have the aluminum bottle laying around. It
> > mounts in the header return line.
> >
> > I've had one in my Kitfox header for years and it
> > works well. I also put one in my Nieuport tank.
> > It's pretty fool-proof.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ted
> > >
> > >I'm installing a new header tank shortly and I'd
> > like to also install a low
> > >fuel indicator while I'm at it. Couple questions
> > for those who've been
> > >there.
> > >
> > > Who can supply a complete kit? Skystar doesn't
> > seem to be responding
> > >very well these days.
> > >
> > > I understand that I can go with either Reed
> > Switch or Optical type.
> > >Which is better?
> > >
> > > If I decide to build my own unit, can anybody
> > give me a parts list of
> > >the items I would need?
> > >
> > > Does anybody have a low fuel indicator that
> > they've decided not to use?
> > >Email me offlist if you have one for sale.
> > >
> > > I've got 268 hours on my S5 and I've had no fuel
> > flow problems. Are
> > >these things really worth the bother?
> > >
> > >Thanks for any help.
> > >Darrel
> > >
> > >
>
>
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>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: N53dw@aol.com
Has anyone gone to the trouble of making fairing cuffs for the lift
strut-to-wing attachment? Know of any pictures or fabrication techniques posted
anywhere?
Danny Williamson
Pride, LA
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| Subject: | Re: Ellison Carb; was: engine problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Lowell,
I must fall in the same category as you, because after flying 1000 hours
behind the 912, I wasn't willing tackle that project either. ;-)
Cliff
>
> Thanks Cliff, I guess there are set-ups out there that work as designed /
> planned. I guess my point has to do with the idea that there are
different
> sorts of pilots out there. Some fly, some tinker, some tinker to fly
> better. I like to fly, although I would describe myself as an addicted
> tinkerer. I don't think I would take on the project of fitting an Ellison
> to my engine to avoid what has come up from time to time regarding Bing
> carburetor problems.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Ellison Carb; was: engine problem
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
> <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> >
> > I have always found the idea of using the Ellison on the 912 an
intriguing
> > idea. Mainly because I live and fly out of high elevation airports and
> > wanted the ability to set mixture. It's not as much of an issue if you
> don't
> > fly high. The big problem is getting a custom manifold made. (you would
> only
> > need one Ellison) Of course it might be cheaper to have two Ellison's
than
> > to engineer a manifold for one.
> >
> > Now that our Rotax powered kitfox is gone and we're flying behind a
> Lycoming
> > with an Ellison, the idea is even more intriguing. I really like the
> > operation of the Ellison and haven't found a single problem with it yet.
I
> > haven't noticed the problem mentioned by Lowell, but maybe that's
because
> I
> > never aggressively jam the throttle in. Can't imagine why anyone would
> want
> > to do that. I have done all the normal stuff including quick go-arounds
> etc
> > and never had a problem.
> > As for fuel pressure; with low fuel and a steep climb the engine just
> keeps
> > on ticking even without the fuel pump turned on. This is on gravity feed
> > alone as ours has no mechanical fuel pump on the engine. (yes we have an
> > electric pump, but I've tested operations without it)
> >
> > Finally, is the way this thing starts... easier and quicker than a new
> car.
> > Part of the credit for this goes to the dual Lightspeed electronic
> > ignitions, but I think part of the credit also goes to the Ellison.
Every
> > time I take someone flying that normally flies behind Lycomings or
> > Continentals, they are just blown away at how quick and easy this engine
> > starts (Lyc 0-235) and how smoothly it runs. Even after being cold
soaked
> > overnight at 20 F, it will hand start with just one flip, with no
> > preheating! (I have only done this once to see if it would work) Again,
> part
> > of the credit for this goes to the ignitions but I make this comparison
> > because the Rotax has dual electronic ignitions. This Lycoming ALWAYS
> starts
> > much easier than any 912 I've ever seen (and I've seen quite a few).
> That's
> > not to say that 912's are hard to start, they are not if properly
> adjusted,
> > it's just that our Lyc starts noticeably easier.
> > Anyway, I just thought I would add some fodder to this discussion. By
the
> > time someone figures out a way to put an Ellison on the 912, Rotax will
> > probably have come out with fuel injection.
> > Now if only Rotax would come out with a new normally aspirated engine
that
> > makes about 130 hp and weighs about 160 lbs; electronic ignition,
Ellison
> > carb, gearbox (so we can use the composite props already out there),
auto
> > gas compatible.....ohhhh baby!
> > Cliff
> > Erie, CO
> > Kitfox Outback, Lyc 0-235, 350 hours
> >
> > >
> > > Rick, I don't understand this recommendation. The Carbs on the Rotax
> 912
> > > UL are nearly bulletproof. There have been very few problems
associated
> > > with this set-up. If I remember correctly, with the Ellison, there
are
> > > fuel pressure issues and some reports of hesitation when hitting the
> > > throttle too aggressively. Why mess with success?
> > >
> > > Lowell
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Panel mount glove box |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Flybradair@cs.com
Any ideas on a panel mount glove box?
Was going to get the one that Vans sells--but would like something a little
smaller,
my panel is filling up fast!
Blue-sky used to sell a smaller one but it is not listed anymore.
Any ideas?
Brad Martin
Wichita
5 lyc o-235l2c
Wiring
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| Subject: | Re: Low fuel alarm |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Thanks Steve. I appreciate the feedback.
You still flying the Commander?
Darrel
----- Original Message -----
From: "STEPHEN ZAKRESKI" <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: STEPHEN ZAKRESKI <szakreski@shaw.ca>
>
> Darrel
>
> I have the Skystar optical sensor. Works great once the tank is painted
black and the sensor threads are wrapped with electrical tape. The sensor
body is made of clear plastic so light can leak through it. Once that was
figured out, no false alarms at all. I would use it again, although I seem
to recall pricing the sensor once and it was over $100. I'll try and get
the sensor info when I get out to the hangar, but that may not be for a
couple of weeks.
>
> SteveZ
> Calgary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> Date: Thursday, August 19, 2004 7:53 pm
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low fuel alarm
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
> > <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> >
> > Thanks Ted. I appreciate the input. I checked out the site below
> > and that
> > switch looks like it would do the job nicely. Some people use the
> > opticalsensor which would probably do fine also, but I've read
> > where some had
> > trouble keeping the ambient light from setting it off. Then
> > again, it would
> > appear an advantage is that there are no moving parts. Does
> > anybody know if
> > there's a failure possiblity with the optical type? Then again,
> > if it quits
> > working, what's the harm?
> > Thanks,
> > Darrel
> > S5
> >
> > > If you can put a 1/2" NPT fitting toward the top of
> > > your tank the simplest is the float switch. The 15-
> > > 650-AC from Compac Engineering is available from
> > > Durable Controls at (800) 365-0033 for $36.
> > > http://www.durablecontrols.com. All you need is a
> > > 12v lamp to complete the system. The Accipter sensor
> > > used that switch in an external bottle. I pulled my
> > > switch out and installed it in the tank. I think I
> > > still have the aluminum bottle laying around. It
> > > mounts in the header return line.
> > >
> > > I've had one in my Kitfox header for years and it
> > > works well. I also put one in my Nieuport tank.
> > > It's pretty fool-proof.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Ted
> > > >
> > > >I'm installing a new header tank shortly and I'd
> > > like to also install a low
> > > >fuel indicator while I'm at it. Couple questions
> > > for those who've been
> > > >there.
> > > >
> > > > Who can supply a complete kit? Skystar doesn't
> > > seem to be responding
> > > >very well these days.
> > > >
> > > > I understand that I can go with either Reed
> > > Switch or Optical type.
> > > >Which is better?
> > > >
> > > > If I decide to build my own unit, can anybody
> > > give me a parts list of
> > > >the items I would need?
> > > >
> > > > Does anybody have a low fuel indicator that
> > > they've decided not to use?
> > > >Email me offlist if you have one for sale.
> > > >
> > > > I've got 268 hours on my S5 and I've had no fuel
> > > flow problems. Are
> > > >these things really worth the bother?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for any help.
> > > >Darrel
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> > _-
> > _-
> > _-
> > _-
> > ========================================================================
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel mount glove box |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
No need to buy one. They're easy to build. I used aluminum coil stock from
local builder supply. The stuff is easy to work and painted on both sides
so it's just a matter of fabricating a box and riveting it to the back of
the panel after you've cut a hole in it. My prototype was made of stiff
card board and when I had it the way I wanted I just transferred the whole
pattern to the aluminum.
Take a look at Sportflight.com "uploads" Add-Ons/Modifications.
http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=main&category=Add-Ons/Modifications
If you're very careful cutting the hole in the panel you can use the same
piece for the door. I made mine wide and deep enough so that charts,
directories, and CDs could fit.
If I were to do it again I'd probably add a top shelf for pens/pencils, fuel
sampler, etc.
Darrel
----- Original Message -----
From: <Flybradair@cs.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Panel mount glove box
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Flybradair@cs.com
>
> Any ideas on a panel mount glove box?
>
> Was going to get the one that Vans sells--but would like something a
little
> smaller,
> my panel is filling up fast!
>
> Blue-sky used to sell a smaller one but it is not listed anymore.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Brad Martin
> Wichita
> 5 lyc o-235l2c
> Wiring
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
Anyone have a Kitfox for sale?A friend is looking for a Model 4-1200 ,but
interested in others.
Larry Huntley,Kitfox 4-1200,EA81,Dundee,NY,USA
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| Subject: | Ellison Carb; was: engine problem |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
We always want to make things better. I am of the opinion the Ellison is
better with several advantages over a float bowl regulated carburetor or any
carb for that matter. Bullet proof is a rare thing. Floats jamming and carbs
being shook loose from the mounts is not bullet proof. If your happy with
the Bings then thats all that matters. I am one who enjoys trying to improve
the standard issue. My current project is installing an electric water pump
on my turbo Subaru. Changed a lot of stock things in the engine as well when
I rebuilt it. I guess I just love figuring things out. Keeps me thinking. I
am by no means an expert especially when it comes to rotax. Just saw a
window of opportunity for change and improvement.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clifford
Begnaud
Subject: Kitfox-List: Ellison Carb; was: engine problem
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
<shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
I have always found the idea of using the Ellison on the 912 an
intriguing.................
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Bought a set, dont think I will use them. Get with me off list.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
N53dw@aol.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: fairings
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: N53dw@aol.com
Has anyone gone to the trouble of making fairing cuffs for the lift
strut-to-wing attachment? Know of any pictures or fabrication techniques
posted
anywhere?
Danny Williamson
Pride, LA
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox needed |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
email me off list.
Steve Cooper
spdrflyr@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox needed
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
>
> Anyone have a Kitfox for sale?A friend is looking for a Model 4-1200 ,but
> interested in others.
> Larry Huntley,Kitfox 4-1200,EA81,Dundee,NY,USA
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Buyin' a plane.... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I recently joined this group...a week ago Thursday.....got a tip on a
IV on Saturday, thought about it 'til Sunday, modified a boat trailer
to haul it back on Monday, left at 7pm that night for the drive to
Central/Eastern Texas, arrived on Wed. morning to load it up, and left
that evening at 8pm for the trip home, where I arrived (lower Michigan)
about 2pm on Friday. Too bad I can't make a decision, huh?
The trip there was exactly 1300 miles, and I slept in the little Toyota
motorhome (2400cc four-banger) whenever I got sleepy, which wasn't
often...my eyes were wide open thinking about that cute little
bare-bones Kitfox IV. I was concerned about getting there quickly so
the seller's bank could verify the validity of my cashier's check, and
I could get going on the return trip as soon as possible. One of the
reasons for the brief trip was to get back and get to applying my (few)
ultralight hours toward a Sports Pilot license...that, and I just don't
seem to do anything at a leisurely pace these days.
I had bolted some 3/4" plywood onto the 16-foot boat trailer, and from
a down-loaded schematic of the plane, knew just where the plane would
sit on it. It fit well, we got it strapped down, and then the loading
began of all the boxes, panels, bags, upholstery, wheel pants, struts,
speed kits....well, you all know how much stuff there is. I had stuff
in the little inside compartments, outside compartments, on the rear
bed, on the floor, on the front bed, everywhere but the bath and
shower, because I thought I'd better leave that area accessible...HA!
The flaperons took care of that notion. I had to open the side door
wide to get them in. If I'd had more sleep, I might have remembered the
"escape hatch" side window to put the flaperons through, but I was
running on fumes, and wasn't thinking too clearly at that point. I did
lay down for a few hours, but that wasn't enough to clear out the
cobwebs from the drive there. We got everything aboard finally,
including all the Poly-fibre chenicals that were still good...I hope
(1994 original purchase). Trouble was, I couldn't get to the bathroom,
nor to the refrigerator, nor to my toothbrush which was way back in a
drawer in the kitchen area. I made about 140 miles before needing to
sleep, and found a Holiday Inn Express that was glad to charge me $68
for the night...at that point I didn't care, 'cause I had a cold sack
of Bud that was gonna help me to sleep, as if I needed any. I called my
buddy in California and told him of my purchase, and yakked planes for
awhile. In the morning I got a toothbrush from the front desk, and
paste with it, took a shower and headed for the road. I made the
Kentucky border that night, got through Louisville on the north-bound,
while a 5-mile long traffic jam (due to an accident) was taking place
on the south-bound...real lucky on my part, but hoping the folks were
ok in the bent-up cars. I was about 40 miles from home when I stopped
to check the tie-downs again for the umpteenth time. Another 20 miles
later I stopped for gas, and saw that one of the straps had been sawed
in two by the rusty cross member of the boat trailer. I tied that up
and got home without further problem. Now this little MH has a 16
gallon tank and gets about 12-14 mpg, so requires filling about every 3
hours (about 160-180 mile range, or so), so filling and stopping for
food took some time, but gave me a reason to get out and stretch. After
that first night at the motel, I decided to arrange things a little
better so I could curl up on the front bed and get some rest, without
breaking the bank. Like I said earlier, this was the first time in
seven years of motorhome ownership that I had occasion to use a motel,
and the sticker shock was sumthin' else! Next time I'll do a better
job of planning and not give up my bed, but getting the plane was worth
it.
Laying in bed the night that I got back, I couldn't believe what I'd
just done, and had to count the days on my fingers to see that I
actually had gone 2650 miles in less than four days.
Today, I sorted out the parts, and looked over the manual until my eyes
started to cross, and got overwhelmed, almost, by the job ahead of me.
But unlike the trip, I WILL take my time and do the job right.
Lynn
On Saturday, August 28, 2004, at 11:01 AM, kurt schrader wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> Lynn,
>
> Things are pretty quiet, so now is a good time to tell
> us more.
>
> You must have a big door or window on that RV to get
> everything in?
>
> Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
>
> --- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
>
>> I bought a IV speedster that is still in the
>> building stage...."all the stuff" is stuffed into my
>
>> little 21' motorhome.......
>
>> I may write about the trip....if anyone's
>> interested...shouldn't take long as the whole trip
>> lasted a little less than 4 days.
>>
>> Lynn
>> do not archive
>
>
> _______________________________
>
>
> _-
> =======================================================================
> _-
> =======================================================================
> _-
> =======================================================================
> _-
> =======================================================================
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | ASI / Static ports |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
Intermittantly i've had probs with my ASI this year. Last time i
contributed it to water or moisture in the line and another time it was
a leak that had developed in the system. But now none of those are
factors this time. Instead i remembered a lister mentioning the static
port causing problems. So today after an indicated stall speed of 72 at
3000 i skidded to a stop and looked at the static port side. I have a
Mode C transponder for flying in the DC airspace connected to the static
port side and my altimeter hooked up. The ASI would register anywhere
from 20-42 at a dead stop. But by disconnecting the altimeter, the
system it goes back to registering normally. DRiving home in the Jeep i
connected a line to the ASI and held out the window, and it functioned
normally right along with the ground speed.
Is it necessary to have the altimeter and Encoder hooked up to the ASI
output sides or can an alternate setup be used?
Also have any of you experienced problems porting the static port inside
the cockpit?
Thanks
Jared
John Oakley wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
>
>The easiest way to find the problem is to use a 12v timing light and check
>each plug for
>firing. just shine the light somewhere. You will most likely find that one
>of the coil
> is out and it is a probable ground wire. this is the black wires that are
>coupled at a
> 1/4 inch size screw. you may pull on each of these and find it also. But
>try the timing
>light first, it will give you a direction to go.
>
>John Oakley
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David
>Savener
>To: kitfox-list
>Subject: Kitfox-List: 912UL with a bad drop on one mag.
>
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener" <david_savener@msn.com>
>
>My friend, Fred Howes just passed away. We are getting his beautiful
>Speedster ready for sale.
>
>One day it ran fine. The next day it dropped hundreds of rpms on one mag.
>
>Lockwood(very helpful) had us lop 1/4 inch off each plug wire and re-attach
>the connector. Same problem.
>
>I am a 532/582 two cycle guy(sort of).
>
>Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this??
>
>Are there any 912 mechanics in the Central Texas area. The airplane is in
>Georgetown(30 miles north of Austin) Texas? We need a professional!!
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Colonial Beach, VA Kitfox |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
Flying along the NE shoulder of VA I looked down to find a Kitfox parked
neatly on a beautiful grass strip along the potomac river at colonial
beach. Anyone know who that belongs to or are you a kit lister??
Jared
John Oakley wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
>
>The easiest way to find the problem is to use a 12v timing light and check
>each plug for
>firing. just shine the light somewhere. You will most likely find that one
>of the coil
> is out and it is a probable ground wire. this is the black wires that are
>coupled at a
> 1/4 inch size screw. you may pull on each of these and find it also. But
>try the timing
>light first, it will give you a direction to go.
>
>John Oakley
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David
>Savener
>To: kitfox-list
>Subject: Kitfox-List: 912UL with a bad drop on one mag.
>
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener" <david_savener@msn.com>
>
>My friend, Fred Howes just passed away. We are getting his beautiful
>Speedster ready for sale.
>
>One day it ran fine. The next day it dropped hundreds of rpms on one mag.
>
>Lockwood(very helpful) had us lop 1/4 inch off each plug wire and re-attach
>the connector. Same problem.
>
>I am a 532/582 two cycle guy(sort of).
>
>Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this??
>
>Are there any 912 mechanics in the Central Texas area. The airplane is in
>Georgetown(30 miles north of Austin) Texas? We need a professional!!
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Colonial Beach, VA Kitfox |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick Bowen" <rollnloop@hotmail.com>
Hey Jared,
were you flying sorta' South when you flew over this grass strip at Colonial
Beach today?
Did you see someone next to the plane wave at 'ya???
Rick
>From: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Colonial Beach, VA Kitfox
>Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:57:28 -0400
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
>
>Flying along the NE shoulder of VA I looked down to find a Kitfox parked
>neatly on a beautiful grass strip along the potomac river at colonial
>beach. Anyone know who that belongs to or are you a kit lister??
>
>Jared
>
hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | i'm planning to send mine to the scrap yard when i finish |
with it the liability
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Charlie, you could have a point there. It's not that you couldn't sell it at
some worthwhile price even if the prices do crash a bit. It's the
liabillitty bit you mention that is the worry. I can see the day coming when
if you sell your plane to someone you'll be responsible for what might
happen despite any precautions you might take. I'm in Australa but I guess
it's much the same everywhere and it's starting to be that way now with a
lot of things. It's getting absolutely stupid ! Surely something has got to
crack and us all get back to some common sense. The lawyers are the only
winners at the moment.
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Re: Panel mount glove box |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Brad,
I built my own glove box. I wanted hidden hinges and
something big enough to put a sectional chart in - are
even gloves!
Here's a link to my photo page:
http://photos.yahoo.com/gjfpilot
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
--- Flybradair@cs.com wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Flybradair@cs.com
>
> Any ideas on a panel mount glove box?
>
> Was going to get the one that Vans sells--but would
> like something a little
> smaller,
> my panel is filling up fast!
>
> Blue-sky used to sell a smaller one but it is not
> listed anymore.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Brad Martin
> Wichita
> 5 lyc o-235l2c
> Wiring
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/chat
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Boilerplate:Help! |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
Does anyone have the boilerplate statement for Experimental AB Aircraft Log?
It's something like: "I have inspected the aircraft and find it to be
airworthy in accordance with 41.XX"...then the DAR stamps the logbook behind
this statement. I've got my Airworthiness inspection coming up this next
week.
Steve Cooper
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| Subject: | Buyin' a plane.... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Lynn,
What a great story, thanks for telling us about your trip.
You mentioned that you were getting overwhelmed while reading the manual.
But there is no need to be. Just build one part at a time, do one page at a
time. Don't be thinking that you are building a WHOLE PLANE, think that you
are building a bracket, or installing a rudder. It will be fun.
After you do that a couple hundred times, you will find that you have a
whole airplane and it is time to go to the airport with it. Now THAT will be
one of the highlights of your life!
As for motel costs, $68/night is nothing anymore. Even Motel 6 is up over
$40/night. I just paid $110/night for a best Western in Pullman, WA. Reason:
All the other rooms in town were full.
Good luck and please keep up informed of your progress. If you have any
questions, just ask.
Don Pearsall
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| Subject: | Re: Buyin' a plane.... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 8/28/04 7:58:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
donpearsall@comcast.net writes:
> As for motel costs, $68/night is nothing anymore. Even Motel 6 is up over
> $40/night. I just paid $110/night for a best Western in Pullman, WA. Reason:
> All the other rooms in town were full.
>
> Good luck and please keep up informed of your progress. If you have any
> questions, just ask.
>
>
> Don Pearsall
>
Don,
You ought to try staying at a hotel in downtown Seattle. $175 a night
and a cup of coffee is extra. Ha
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: ASI / Static ports |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Jared
You can use the inside of the airplane as an alterrnate static source. It
will not be accurate but will be a little better than stalling at 72.
I had no problem going from inside static to static port on one side of the
fuselage with the KF kit add on.
There are definite problems with using the cabin as a static source.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message -----
From: "jareds" <jareds@verizon.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: ASI / Static ports
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: jareds <jareds@verizon.net>
>
> Intermittantly i've had probs with my ASI this year. Last time i
> contributed it to water or moisture in the line and another time it was
> a leak that had developed in the system. But now none of those are
> factors this time. Instead i remembered a lister mentioning the static
> port causing problems. So today after an indicated stall speed of 72 at
> 3000 i skidded to a stop and looked at the static port side. I have a
> Mode C transponder for flying in the DC airspace connected to the static
> port side and my altimeter hooked up. The ASI would register anywhere
> from 20-42 at a dead stop. But by disconnecting the altimeter, the
> system it goes back to registering normally. DRiving home in the Jeep i
> connected a line to the ASI and held out the window, and it functioned
> normally right along with the ground speed.
>
> Is it necessary to have the altimeter and Encoder hooked up to the ASI
> output sides or can an alternate setup be used?
>
> Also have any of you experienced problems porting the static port inside
> the cockpit?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jared
>
>
> John Oakley wrote:
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
> >
> >The easiest way to find the problem is to use a 12v timing light and
check
> >each plug for
> >firing. just shine the light somewhere. You will most likely find that
one
> >of the coil
> > is out and it is a probable ground wire. this is the black wires that
are
> >coupled at a
> > 1/4 inch size screw. you may pull on each of these and find it also. But
> >try the timing
> >light first, it will give you a direction to go.
> >
> >John Oakley
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David
> >Savener
> >To: kitfox-list
> >Subject: Kitfox-List: 912UL with a bad drop on one mag.
> >
> >
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener"
<david_savener@msn.com>
> >
> >My friend, Fred Howes just passed away. We are getting his beautiful
> >Speedster ready for sale.
> >
> >One day it ran fine. The next day it dropped hundreds of rpms on one
mag.
> >
> >Lockwood(very helpful) had us lop 1/4 inch off each plug wire and
re-attach
> >the connector. Same problem.
> >
> >I am a 532/582 two cycle guy(sort of).
> >
> >Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this??
> >
> >Are there any 912 mechanics in the Central Texas area. The airplane is
in
> >Georgetown(30 miles north of Austin) Texas? We need a professional!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ASI / Static ports |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 8/28/04 9:21:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net writes:
> > Also have any of you experienced problems porting the static port inside
> > the cockpit?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jared
>
Jared,
My static port is in behind the instrument panel. It has always given
real close indications.
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Buyin' a plane.... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
Lynn,
Congratulations! You'll enjoy building and flying the IV.
Is it a IV-1200?
Cheers,
bh
now Oregonian
Ex-582ed IV-1200, 800+ hrs
Ex-SW Michigan boy (Otsego, between Allegan and Kalamazoo)
> I recently joined this group...a week ago Thursday.....got a tip on a
> IV on Saturday, thought about it 'til Sunday, modified a boat trailer
> to haul it back on Monday, left at 7pm that night for the drive to
> Central/Eastern Texas, arrived on Wed. morning to load it up, and left
> that evening at 8pm for the trip home, where I arrived (lower Michigan)
> snip
> Laying in bed the night that I got back, I couldn't believe what I'd
> just done, and had to count the days on my fingers to see that I
> actually had gone 2650 miles in less than four days.
>
> Today, I sorted out the parts, and looked over the manual until my eyes
> started to cross, and got overwhelmed, almost, by the job ahead of me.
> But unlike the trip, I WILL take my time and do the job right.
>
> Lynn
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| Subject: | Re: [Off-topic] FM vs. AM |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Michel
Why on earth do you assume that all AM transmitters put out the same power
from the antenna? That was my original point in my first post. Believe me,
there are no two radios out there that put out the same power or modulated
signal. I'm not talking a theoretical fraction, I mean that you can easily
measure the difference at any airport by a factor of 3, or 9 dB if you like.
It has to do with more than the rated output of the radio. It has to do
with antenna placement and location in relation to the ground receiver.
That can change with altitude, terrain, blocking by airframe age of radio
etc. Even FM would not reliably override the nearer signal because of
ground and airframe interference signal modulation. And that is the REASON
for using the CUBE of the DISTANCE phenomenon to allow the CLOSER plane to
OVER ride the Farther plane, or at least create an interference squeal.
It may be that FM or spread spectrum could be used as well and that there
could be a mod to that signal that would act as the "stepped on" squeal.
After you design a radio that can do all that and then get its reliability
high enough to equal an AM radio you just have to get it certified. After
that you have to overcome the inertia replacing all the installed radios
already in airplanes. The installed base is probably the killer for
changing to another system, but it is not the first obstacle, or the second
obstacle to overcome.
AM radio is not the only com in aviation. It is just the one required for
use in GA airplanes. Large passenger planes bristle with antennas for com
with long range Traffic control, home office dispatch, passenger telephone
etc. The other radios probably do not use AM for the reason that you
mention.
Please, just don't invent a better radio....I can't afford to replace mine
right now.
Jim Shumaker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: [Off-topic] FM vs. AM
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
> jimshumaker wrote:
> > With FM you may not override another signal even though they are much
> > further away. and worse you would not know that there were two planes
> > talking at once.
>
> Jim and Clint, I am still not convinced. At sea, or in the air, if we
assume
> that all mobile stations have the same power output, on both AM and FM,
the
> closest will override the furthest.
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