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1. 12:25 AM - Does anyone know the glide ratio power off with a kitfox IV 1050 and 1200? Is every (Rex & Jan Shaw)
2. 01:37 AM - Re: Module vs coils (Jeffrey Puls)
3. 03:34 AM - Xcom 760 (Jimmie Blackwell)
4. 04:29 AM - Re: More on mass balance weights (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
5. 04:32 AM - Re: I don't understand why your temps are so hot. There are a co... (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
6. 05:25 AM - Re: glide ratio (Vic Jacko)
7. 05:30 AM - Re: I don't understand why your temps are so hot. There are a couple of Kitfoxes (Gary Algate)
8. 05:46 AM - Re: More on mass balance weights (Jerry Liles)
9. 06:12 AM - Re: More on mass balance weights (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
10. 06:26 AM - Re: KITFOX 3 AND 4 (daniel johnson)
11. 06:32 AM - Re: glide ratio (Brian Peck)
12. 06:47 AM - Re: glide ratio (Lowell Fitt)
13. 07:18 AM - Re: glide ratio (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
14. 07:23 AM - Re: Mass Balance weight install (Steve Zakreski)
15. 07:46 AM - Re: Model II Wings (John Larsen)
16. 08:24 AM - Re: glide ratio (Randy Daughenbaugh)
17. 12:24 PM - Re: glide ratio (Michel Verheughe)
18. 01:48 PM - Re: Model II Wings (Raystuff7@aol.com)
19. 02:00 PM - even more on mass balance weights (Lynn Matteson)
20. 03:12 PM - Alberta is cut (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
21. 07:57 PM - Re: More on mass balance weights (Lynn Matteson)
22. 08:36 PM - Re: Alberta is cut (kurt schrader)
23. 10:43 PM - Re: Side air outlets (kurt schrader)
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| Subject: | Does anyone know the glide ratio power off with a kitfox |
IV 1050 and 1200? Is every
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Does anyone know the glide ratio power off with a kitfox IV 1050 and 1200?
Is every
kitfox different?
Just a very wild guess would be around 15 to 1. However I can tell you that
you can easilly thermal it like a glider with the engine at 2,000 and 3:1
box so there is no thrust from that really. Seems to me you just need a bit
of thermal activity and you can play for ages.
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Re: Module vs coils |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Thanks John, I'll try that. Jeff
> [Original Message]
> From: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 9/7/2004 11:58:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Module vs coils
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
>
> Jeff,
>
> It most likely is a broken wire going from the modules to the stator in
> back of the engine.. It happened to me twice on my Model IV. One way
> to help locate it is to scrape your finger nail along the length of the
> wires. The wire inside its outer jacket fractures while the jacket
> appears OK. Replace as much of the wire as you can with aircraft grade
> wire. Do that on both modules. Make sure that you tie down the wire
> bundles well so as to reduce movement on startup and shut down.
>
> When I built my Series 6 I moved the ignition modules from the engine to
> the part of the engine mount that is attached to the firewall. The
> modules are now completely disconnected from any engine movement.
>
> --
> John King
> Warrenton, VA
>
>
> Jeffrey Puls wrote:
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls"
<pulsair@mindspring.com>
> >
> >Lowell,
> >It is mounted on the engine as recommended by Rotax. I would love to
mount
> >it on the firewall but can't seem to find any room. What about inside the
> >firewall? Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
I discovered that the Xcom 760 aircraft radio is now available from Australia.
Wondering if anyone on the list has purchased one and could give a report on
it's performance.
Thanks
Jimmie
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| Subject: | Re: More on mass balance weights |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 9/7/04 5:49:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lynnmatt@jps.net
writes:
>
> I was told that the two weights that I have for my Speedster (one on
> each flaperon) was enough, although the manual calls for two on each
> wing. Any thoughts?
> Lynn
>
>
Lynn,
When I built my Classic IV, I wanted to leave one off each wing for
weight savings. SS told me the opposite. All 4 are required.
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: I don't understand why your temps are so hot. There are |
a co...
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 9/7/04 7:28:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rexjan@bigpond.com writes:
> the cowl outlet that is about 1/2 the width and about 2" deep. Where is
> everyone elses ? Up close to the cowl or well back ?
>
> Rex.
> rexjan@bigpond.com
>
Rex,
Mine is back about 1 foot aft of the cowl outlet.
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
My understanding of the best glide ratio includes the distance one travels
while still airborne. I feel you would be looking for the highest speed
over the ground with the least lost of altitude. The 500fps at 60mph
sounds better than 500fps at 55. I would say your best glide would be the
former.
IMHO
Vic
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: glide ratio
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> Maurice,
>
> I really don't know how to answer this question. I have found though,
that
> I will descend at about 500 fps (according to the VSI) at full retarded
> throttle at 60 mph. At 55 mph, I also get 500 fpm descent. I don't know
> what my best glide speed is. Something to do next flight, I guess.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Maurice Fraser" <mfraser@gokenora.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: glide ratio
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Maurice Fraser <mfraser@gokenora.com>
> >
> > Does anyone know the glide ratio power off with a kitfox IV 1050 and
1200?
> Is every kitfox different?
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | I don't understand why your temps are so hot. There are |
a couple of Kitfoxes
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
I fly on floats in summer so the rad has to be mounted in a certain
position to clear the float struts - I believe this meant mounting further
aft but will have to confirm
GaryA
Lit2/582
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| Subject: | Re: More on mass balance weights |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
Doesn't Kitfox require the builder to check the balance of the
flapperons with the weight installed to insure it is correct? Avid had
the builders install the weights then balance the flapperon on
straightedges to insure the weights balanced the flapperon so the rear
was at least 1/4" above level, that is nose heavy. More was OK but the
assembly had to be nose heavy. It also allowed the builder to remove
excess lead from the balance weight. Saved a few ounces, and the excess
lead went into the pot to cast some .45 bullets.
AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 9/7/04 5:49:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lynnmatt@jps.net
>writes:
>
>
>
>
>>I was told that the two weights that I have for my Speedster (one on
>>each flaperon) was enough, although the manual calls for two on each
>>wing. Any thoughts?
>>Lynn
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Lynn,
> When I built my Classic IV, I wanted to leave one off each wing for
>weight savings. SS told me the opposite. All 4 are required.
>
>Don Smythe
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: More on mass balance weights |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 9/8/04 5:47:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wliles@bayou.com
writes:
> Doesn't Kitfox require the builder to check the balance of the
> flapperons with the weight installed to insure it is correct? Avid had
>
Jerry,
My instructions didn't call for any balance checking.
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: KITFOX 3 AND 4 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "daniel johnson" <kitfox91je@hotmail.com>
"flying the kitfox" outlines the differences pretty well. Another change is
the increasing size of the vertical stab. my 3/582 is not supposed to be a
postive in stability in yaw as the 4....dan
>From: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
>Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KITFOX 3 AND 4
>Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 10:47:56 -0500
>
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
>
>Kitfox III has the under camber Dean Wilson wing and his flapperon mixer
>bellcrank that allows the wings to be folded without disconnecting
>controls. Kitfox IV has the Riblet designed airfoil with a convex wing
>belly, and a different mixer bellcrank that gives differential action to
>the ailerons but requires the controls to be disconnected to fold the
>wing. It also has heavier guage tubes in the wing spars and liftstruts
>for a higher gross weight. Model IV weighs considerably more than the
>III. these are the main differences. There are several minor ones.
>
>Jerry Liles
>
>Chet & Marylu Richer wrote:
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Chet & Marylu Richer"
><mricher@linkny.com>
> >
> >CAN ANYONE TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE IN A KITFOX 3 AND 4 ? PLEASE DON'T SAY
>ONE. CHET
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Brian Peck <u2drvr@dslextreme.com>
Your best glide ratio will occur at the same speed as your best rate of
climb. This speed will increase with increased weight, but the maximum
glide ratio/distance will remain the same. In most Kitfoxes, the speed
will be 60-75 mph (about 73 in mine @ 1550 lbs) depending on model and
weight. In most cases, flying a few mph either side of this speed will
only make a small difference, but if you get slower than your max angle
of climb, the drag goes up rapidly, so if you are going to err, it is
better to be a little fast than slow.
Brian Peck
Powered Glider (U-2) Pilot
On Sep 7, 2004, at 7:40 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> Maurice,
>
> I really don't know how to answer this question. I have found though,
> that
> I will descend at about 500 fps (according to the VSI) at full retarded
> throttle at 60 mph. At 55 mph, I also get 500 fpm descent. I don't
> know
> what my best glide speed is. Something to do next flight, I guess.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Maurice Fraser" <mfraser@gokenora.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: glide ratio
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Maurice Fraser
>> <mfraser@gokenora.com>
>>
>> Does anyone know the glide ratio power off with a kitfox IV 1050 and
>> 1200?
> Is every kitfox different?
>>
>>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Agreed, Vic. I use those speeds to line up on the numbers. These are my
typical approach speeds and see them often. I just don't have the vertical
speeds in mind for other airspeeds - need to test for that.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: glide ratio
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
>
> My understanding of the best glide ratio includes the distance one
travels
> while still airborne. I feel you would be looking for the highest speed
> over the ground with the least lost of altitude. The 500fps at 60mph
> sounds better than 500fps at 55. I would say your best glide would be
the
> former.
>
> IMHO
>
> Vic
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: glide ratio
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
> >
> > Maurice,
> >
> > I really don't know how to answer this question. I have found though,
> that
> > I will descend at about 500 fps (according to the VSI) at full retarded
> > throttle at 60 mph. At 55 mph, I also get 500 fpm descent. I don't
know
> > what my best glide speed is. Something to do next flight, I guess.
> >
> > Lowell
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Maurice Fraser" <mfraser@gokenora.com>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: glide ratio
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Maurice Fraser
<mfraser@gokenora.com>
> > >
> > > Does anyone know the glide ratio power off with a kitfox IV 1050 and
> 1200?
> > Is every kitfox different?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
vsi vs ias can be used to graph the results of glide test. minimum negative vsi
will yield the largest "time remaining aloft" which then leads to distance at
the related ias.
that may not have been worded well, but go to the archives of Sport Aviation, Ed
Kolono flight test articles. it can give real meaning to flight tests.
John
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko"
>
> My understanding of the best glide ratio includes the distance one travels
> while still airborne. I feel you would be looking for the highest speed
> over the ground with the least lost of altitude. The 500fps at 60mph
> sounds better than 500fps at 55. I would say your best glide would be the
> former.
>
> IMHO
>
> Vic
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lowell Fitt"
> To:
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: glide ratio
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt"
> >
> > Maurice,
> >
> > I really don't know how to answer this question. I have found though,
> that
> > I will descend at about 500 fps (according to the VSI) at full retarded
> > throttle at 60 mph. At 55 mph, I also get 500 fpm descent. I don't know
> > what my best glide speed is. Something to do next flight, I guess.
> >
> > Lowell
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Maurice Fraser"
> > To:
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: glide ratio
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Maurice Fraser
> > >
> > > Does anyone know the glide ratio power off with a kitfox IV 1050 and
> 1200?
> > Is every kitfox different?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
vsi vs ias can be used to graph the results of glide test. minimum negative vsi
will yield the largest "time remaining aloft" which then leads to distance at
the related ias.
that may not have been worded well, but go to the archives of Sport Aviation, Ed
Kolono flight test articles. it can give real meaning to flight tests.
John
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <VICWJ@EARTHLINK.NET>
My understanding of the best glide ratio includes the distance one travels
while still airborne. I feel you would be looking for the highest speed
over the ground with the least lost of altitude. The 500fps at 60mph
sounds better than 500fps at 55. I would say your best glide would be the
former.
IMHO
Vic
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Fitt" <LCFITT@INREACH.COM>
To: <KITFOX-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: glide ratio
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <LCFITT@INREACH.COM>
Maurice,
I really don'
t know how to answer this question. I have found though,
that
I will descend at about 500 fps (according to the VSI) at full retarded
throttle at 60 mph. At 55 mph, I also get 500 fpm descent. I don't know
what my best glide speed is. Something to do next flight, I guess.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Maurice Fraser" <MFRASER@GOKENORA.COM>
To: <KITFOX-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
Subject: Kitfox-List: glide ratio
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: Maurice Fraser <MFRASER@GOKENORA.COM>
Does anyone know the glide ratio power off with a kitfox IV 1050 and
1200?
Is every kitfox different?
=================
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| Subject: | Mass Balance weight install |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
That would be a waste of time in my opinion. Mine are very strongly
attached per standard instruction mounting. But like mentioned by someone
else, the trailing edge riveting is a weak spot on the IV. I am in the
process of doubling up the number of rivets on the trailing edge, using
large flat head rivets. When the wing bends and the flapperon bends
correspondingly the trailing edge of the flapperon buckles and some of the
rivets pull through. Not a flight safety issue, but annoying. For the
speedster version of this aircraft, Skystar recommends cutting the flapperon
skin circumferentially and taping the cut. Apparently they had the same
problem.
SteveZ
Calgary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brett
Walmsley
Subject: Kitfox-List: Mass Balance weight install
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Brett Walmsley" <kitfox4@numail.org>
Please disregard my previous message about flapperon install. What I meant
to say was "mass balance weight installation". My concern is the
attachement of the mass balance weight to the flapperon. It appears the
.025 or .020 that the flapperon skin is made from may be a little thin to
handle the load or drag produced by the mass balance weight. I am
considering using a doubler under the weight with a 1/2" reveal all around
and riveted as extra support. Does anyone have any input or experience
with this? Thanks and I apologize for draggin' y'all into my confusion.
Brett
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| Subject: | Re: Model II Wings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com>
Hi;
Steve Winder at Airdale can supply. Ph 208-459-6254.
David Savener wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener" <david_savener@msn.com>
>
> Are there any model two wings, preferably with flaperons, for sale out there?
>
> I have a friend whose airplane got damaged by wind!!
>
> Central Texas
>
> Dave Savener
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Chad,
If your numbers are accurate, this gives a glide ratio of 12.8:1 which is
one answer to Maurice's question. I have been counting on a 10:1 glide
ratio and hoping for more like 12 - 13:1. I plan to turn off the big fan up
front occasionally and play glider and work thermals. To play in the
thermals, the sink rate is really more important than glide ratio.
Randy - Series 5/7 - 912S , 776 lbs.
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chad lively
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: glide ratio
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "chad lively" <chadl@compu.net>
I got some first hand experience with "glide-ratio' on a IV 1200 last
week-end. Shortly after take off from a airport beside the Tennessee river I
"blew" a rod bering. I was at 1650 Agl, 3.5 natucial milkes of water and
about 1/2 of trees from the airport. Wasn't fun, but we got back to the
airport with no damage except to the 583 Rotax, not a 582, but a 583. By the
way this is the third time for my first hand experience with "glide ratio"
in this IV 1200.
Cheers,
Chad Lively
----- Original Message -----
From: "Maurice Fraser" <mfraser@gokenora.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: glide ratio
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Maurice Fraser <mfraser@gokenora.com>
>
> Does anyone know the glide ratio power off with a kitfox IV 1050 and 1200?
Is every kitfox different?
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Brian Peck wrote:
> Your best glide ratio will occur at the same speed as your best rate of
> climb.
That seems to make a lot of sense to me, Brian.
The discussion of glide ratio interests me because, in the event of an engine
stop, I'll have very few seconds to make the right decision. Sometimes one will
decide to try to reach an airfield. But at other times, the only solution is to
find a field, any field to land in.
In a country like Norway where forests are plenty and farmed land, scare, it is
often the closest place that is the safest because ... we can already see it.
But at a certain altitude, it requires a spiral descent.
I'd be very happy if, at any time I fly, I can instantly think e.g.: I am at
2,500 ft AGL, if the engine stops, I'll need three 360 turns to land right
under. One day, I started to see what was my glide ratio doing say, a
one-minute turn. Much worse!
So, whenever I fly alone and I have nothing special to do, I try to find what
is the best turn rate for what I want to do, sink fast, or longest.
Next winter, when we will have miles-long frozen lakes, I'll practice
dead-stick precision landing. training, and training is what makes us better
pilots. I wish I get enough training to be able to say, the day it happens
against my will: "Ok, now we take procedure #45-4!" keeping a cold head. That
could be nice.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Model II Wings |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Raystuff7@aol.com
I have a left wong and right flaperon still in the shipping crate for sale. I
live at Ward Airpark in Beasley, near Houston. These parts are for a Kitfox
6. I got them due to a freight claim mixup. Phone 979) 387-2277.
Ray Ward
Raystuff7@aol.com
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| Subject: | even more on mass balance weights |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
My mass balance weights...IV Speedster...weigh 2.5 pounds each, just
for the record. Are these the "two per plane" size?
Lynn
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
I started today by cutting the bottom out of the cowl and fabricated a
new piece of semi-rigid sheet fiberglass re-fill the hole. I can tell already
that the radiator is going to do better just by looking at the profile. About
that time, my old instructor (Tappscott shuffle) also a retired NASA Engineer
came by. He is always excited about good modifications to an airplane. We
discussed airflow, high/low pressure areas and finally came up with an approved
drawing (including side vents) which we drew on the hanger wall. Time will
tell.
The other day (forgive me, I forgot who) somebody posted that he had
faired the radiator but it would not cool tucked up into the belly. He had to
lower the rad and tilt the fairing. Can whoever that was come back to me off
list and tell me how much he had to lower the radiator and which way he tilted
the thing. Helps to have a little tried and proven design.
Thanks,
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: More on mass balance weights |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
John, do you suppose the reason for dividing the total weight required
(for one flaperon) between two weights was to alleviate the problem
that Brett envisioned...that if the single weight coming off? In other
words to distribute the load over more mounting surface, thereby
reducing the potential for such a concentrated weight to go flying off?
I'm not an engineer, so my thoughts and wordage are not coming from
that discipline...obviously : )
Lynn
On Tuesday, September 7, 2004, at 11:23 PM, John King wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
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> Lynn,
>
> The single weight is heavier than one of the weights where two are
> required. They started out with a single heavier weight and later
> distributed the weight by using two lighter weights.
>
> --
> John King
> Warrenton, VA
>
>
> Lynn Matteson wrote:
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>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
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>> I was told that the two weights that I have for my Speedster (one on
>> each flaperon) was enough, although the manual calls for two on each
>> wing. Any thoughts?
>> Lynn
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| Subject: | Re: Alberta is cut |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Don,
I'll probably cut mine in the next few days too.
Where did you decide to put your outlets? Just
wondered what the NASA engineer had to say....
Kurt S.
--- AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
> I started today by cutting the bottom out of the
> cowl and fabricated a new piece of semi-rigid sheet
> fiberglass re-fill the hole. I can tell already
> that the radiator is going to do better just by
> looking at the profile. About that time, my old
> instructor (Tappscott shuffle) also a retired NASA
> Engineer came by. He is always excited about good
> modifications to an airplane. We discussed airflow,
> high/low pressure areas and finally came up with
> an approved drawing (including side vents) which
> we drew on the hanger wall. Time will tell.
>> ........
> Thanks,
> Don Smythe
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Side air outlets |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hey Paul,
Thanks for the suggestion. This was before my time on
the list. Would you happen to know if the Acipiter
info was on the main list or on the seperate NSI list?
Since you don't have the nsi and knew about it, I
have been looking on the main archive. Also I don't
know how to find the nsi archive anyway.
So far all I have found is 912 oil tempo problems.
The archive doesn't go back past 1999 as far as I can
see. Hope it was after that.
Still looking before I cut,
Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
--- Paul <pwilson@climber.org> wrote:
> Comment from an original KF lister,
> All the communication about overheating brings to
> mind the thread many moons ago. It was about the
> ultimate solution designed by Acipiter. As I
> remember it was a redesign of the lower cowl and
> movement of the rad for a NSI turbo. Look in the
> archives to see if the details are still there.
> I am not a NSI person but I remember that the
> solution was very ingenious. I bet one could collect
> some ideas for the 582 as well.
> Regards, Paul
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