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1. 02:35 AM - EC YOY Spain (Michel Gordillo)
2. 03:20 AM - Re: Side air outlets: N210F update :-) (Fox5flyer)
3. 03:45 AM - SV: EC YOY Spain (Michel Verheughe)
4. 05:45 AM - Re: Re: door gas pistons (W Duke)
5. 06:06 AM - Cad file for Panel? (Clifford Begnaud)
6. 07:56 AM - Re: Cad file for Panel? ()
7. 08:42 AM - Re: EC YOY Spain (Don Pearsall)
8. 08:51 AM - Re: Door gas springs (Ron)
9. 09:19 AM - Re: Cad file for Panel? (RICHARD HUTSON)
10. 09:57 AM - Re: Cad file for Panel? (Clifford Begnaud)
11. 09:59 AM - Re: Out of retirement (off topic) (kurt schrader)
12. 10:20 AM - Kitfox radio choices (Mark Scott)
13. 10:23 AM - Re: Cad file for Panel? (Grant Fluent)
14. 11:43 AM - Back from NY and back on the list (OFF TOPIC) (Scott McClintock)
15. 12:01 PM - October KitPlanes Magazine (Scott McClintock)
16. 12:11 PM - Re: October KitPlanes Magazine (Cory Emberson)
17. 02:40 PM - Re: Out of retirement (off topic) (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
18. 04:46 PM - Have any Listers bought the door "gas springs", the devices that hold our (Rex & Jan Shaw)
19. 05:46 PM - Re: Kitfox radio choices (Steve Zakreski)
20. 06:08 PM - Re: Bottom False Ribs (Jerry Liles)
21. 06:24 PM - Gap sealing tape (again) (Jay Fabian)
22. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: door gas pistons (Glenn Horne)
23. 06:35 PM - Kitfox crash ()
24. 07:01 PM - Re: My 912UL oil change proceedure (Allan Arthur)
25. 07:14 PM - Re: Kitfox crash (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
26. 08:00 PM - Re: Kitfox radio choices (Randy Daughenbaugh)
27. 08:00 PM - Re: Doors Opening on S-6 (John Banes)
28. 08:09 PM - Re: Cad file for Panel? (John Banes)
29. 08:10 PM - Re: Gap sealing tape (again) (Rick)
30. 08:28 PM - Re: Kitfox radio choices (Steve Zakreski)
31. 08:37 PM - Re: Back from NY and back on the list (OFF TOPIC) (jdmcbean)
32. 09:38 PM - Re: Kitfox crash (Don Pearsall)
33. 10:13 PM - Re: Gap sealing tape (again) (Clem Nichols)
34. 11:00 PM - Re: Gap sealing tape (again) (Don Pearsall)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michel Gordillo" <michelgordillo@telefonica.net>
Hi everybody.
Long time is gone, but finally, last sunday, Kitfox EC YOY flew again with
his new fuselage and old feathers.
New colours also.
I did enjoy a lot the flight and now the plane is back into his 800 ft dirt
runway.
The reason of changing the fuselage is related with trying a voluntary
landing where it was not advisable, and then going around. The downdrafts
produced by the hill slope upwind were powerfull enough to avoid a positive
rate of climb, and then, having the fuselage flying on top of a ground step,
and the aluminium lang gear staying underneath that same step, with the
fuselage being bent at the landing gear attach point. I decided to buy a new
fuselage.
EC YOY flew from Spain into Oshkosh easterly, via China and Russia, in 1998
(www.sportflight.com, the wonderfull web page created by my friend Don
Pearsall)
Best regards
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Side air outlets: N210F update :-) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Looks great Kurt. Paint it up and it'll look like it was an original part
of the plane.
Deke
> I understand the "lots of work" phase. Thanks to
> Michel V, pics of my scoop are on SportFlight. That
> thing works, but isn't pretty yet. Lots of work still
> to go there.
>
> I have to reduce the side outlet pics to post them,
> but they are pretty standard. Much like Howard's, but
> a little smaller, a little lower and a little more
> aft.
>
>
> --- AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Where are you Don S? Did you test your side vents
> > yet?
> >
> > Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
> >
> > No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last
> > night.
> >
> > My new fabricated vents are laying on top of the
> > wing. I've cut and re-fiberglassed the cowl.
> > Have a new radiator cowl about 70% laid out. Still
> > have lots of work to do before installing the side
> > vents and getting back in the air.
> >
> > Don Smythe
> > DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Good to hear you are Kitfoxing again, MichelG!
> From: Michel Gordillo [michelgordillo@telefonica.net]
> The downdrafts produced by the hill slope upwind were powerfull enough <SNIP>
Incidentally I just got a message from Mike Gibbs who is still in the hospital
awaiting an operation on both legs. He tells me that his accident was probably
also caused by a powerful sharewind/downdraft that pulled him to the ground while
he was quite low.
Otherwise Mike seems to take his mishap with good fortune and talks already about
"getting back on the saddle." Good for him!
Cheers,
MichelV
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: door gas pistons |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: W Duke <n981ms@yahoo.com>
I bought some from Orr and Orr several years ago. I needed a different length
than supplied with kit because of bubble doors.
Maxwell
Ron <rliebmann@comcast.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron"
Have any Listers bought the door "gas springs", the devices that hold our
doors open? If so, what did you pay for them? Where did you buy them?
Thanks, Ron
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| Subject: | Cad file for Panel? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Does anyone have an accurate cad file of the model 5/6/7 instrument panel
that you would be willing to share?
I'm planning to build a new panel and don't have any kind of template.
Thanks,
Cliff
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| Subject: | Re: Cad file for Panel? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rkstevens@verizon.net>
>
> From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> Date: 2004/09/14 Tue AM 08:06:18 CDT
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Cad file for Panel?
>
>
I have a CAD file I can send you. Basically, I had a new panel laser-cut for me
out of .090 aluminum. It's for a series 6. The panel came out great. The
file is an auto-cad file (.dxf). This file I sent directly to a machine shop
and they cut the panel for me.
You'll need to flush rivet a piece of aluminum angle on the bottom (where the original
piece from SkyStar is bent at a 90 degree angle). Mine is a little heavier
than the original, but I have a full panel and needed the heavier guage
aluminum.
You are welcome to use my design if you wish. It has all the standard instument
holes in there already. Also has holes for some toggle switches, etc. Since
you probably won't use my instrument placement, etc., you can cut & paste the
instrument holes, switch holes, etc., in auto-cad to build you're own custom
panel.
The hardest part is learning to use auto-cad. :-)
Ron
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Congratulations Michel. You have done it again! It is good to see that
history-making plane flying again.
For those who do not know, Michel not only built his Model IV and flew it
from Madrid to Oshkosh, but he also built a MCR-01 (Banbi) and flew that
plane around the WORLD. His exploits were the subject of many news and
documentary TV shows.
Now is building an RV-8, and who know WHAT he will do with it.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel Gordillo
Subject: Kitfox-List: EC YOY Spain
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Michel Gordillo"
<michelgordillo@telefonica.net>
Hi everybody.
Long time is gone, but finally, last sunday, Kitfox EC YOY flew again with
his new fuselage and old feathers.
New colours also.
I did enjoy a lot the flight and now the plane is back into his 800 ft dirt
runway.
The reason of changing the fuselage is related with trying a voluntary
landing where it was not advisable, and then going around. The downdrafts
produced by the hill slope upwind were powerfull enough to avoid a positive
rate of climb, and then, having the fuselage flying on top of a ground step,
and the aluminium lang gear staying underneath that same step, with the
fuselage being bent at the landing gear attach point. I decided to buy a new
fuselage.
EC YOY flew from Spain into Oshkosh easterly, via China and Russia, in 1998
(www.sportflight.com, the wonderfull web page created by my friend Don
Pearsall)
Best regards
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Door gas springs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
Listers, you guys & gals are great. I sure appreciate the responces I got so
fast regarding my need for new gas springs for my doors.
After I posted to you folks I pulled one of my original ones that I bought
from SkyStar a while back and went to the internet with the company name
that was on it. I pulled up the site for H.A.Guden at www.guden.com and
there were my original ones. I have part # GGS43-060-K which is a 60 pound
type with the plastic ends. I ordered 2 of them at a price of $9.27 each
plus shipping.
Once again I thank all of you for responding so fast to my need.
Ron Chicago area
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| Subject: | Re: Cad file for Panel? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RICHARD HUTSON" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
GO TO http://epanelbuilder.com/ there is a panel under skystar
Subject: Kitfox-List: Cad file for Panel?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
> <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
> Does anyone have an accurate cad file of the model 5/6/7 instrument panel
> that you would be willing to share?
> I'm planning to build a new panel and don't have any kind of template.
> Thanks,
> Cliff
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cad file for Panel? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Richard,
I have used that site to do a layout, but you can't save it as a cad file.
It only lets you save it as a gif or bitmap.
Am I missing something?
Cliff
do not archive
> GO TO http://epanelbuilder.com/ there is a panel under skystar
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Cad file for Panel?
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
> > <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> >
> > Does anyone have an accurate cad file of the model 5/6/7 instrument
panel
> > that you would be willing to share?
> > I'm planning to build a new panel and don't have any kind of template.
> > Thanks,
> > Cliff
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Out of retirement (off topic) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Don,
Were you ever actually retired, or just off on
vacation between jobs? :-)
Watch out for those helos. Helos can bite back. They
need excess reliable power, not marginal power and die
off quickly with density altitude. They can be a lot
of fun, but you have to keep an eye on them at all
times. I have a good bit of helo time and some of it
was scary.
Kurt S.
--- AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
> Just thought I would pass on a bit of news. As
> of next Monday, I will come out of retirement and
> become an employee of the below website, building
> Ultrasport Helicopters. It is a Taiwanese company
> that has had a hard time getting their birds to fly.
> They have tried all sorts of engines from the Rotax
> 582/912, Hirth, etc. They will use a 4 cylinder 2
> stroke fuel injected Hirth on the next one that
> I will most likely be building. Still ain't too
sure
> about the Hirth. Seems they are having a hard time
> getting the power to weight ratio they need.
> Anyway, their hanger is about 3 doors down from
> mine at PHF and they like the way I built the Fox.
> They found out I was retired through the Rich Man
> and he insisted I was their man. BTW, I think I
> will be the only employee for the time being.
> The other two quit???? Also comes
> with dual Helicopter training.
>
> http://www.ultrasport.rotor.com/
>
> (Time will tell, I may post next week that I quit)
> Don Smythe
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Kitfox radio choices |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mark Scott" <scottm@dol.net>
Hello all, I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding
radio/avionics choices for a model IV Kitfox. I am a student pilot (just
soloed this past weekend) and intend to start working on my kitfox very soon
(bought someone else's project last year). I have the basic flight
instruments already, but no radios. This is the area where I have the least
knowledge as far as what names/units are good, which types I should stay
away from, what kind of prices to expect, etc. I will probably be looking
for deals on the used market where possible just to be cost conscious. I
will need a transponder for some of the areas I will be flying in, and was
also thinking of having a VOR, Nav, and com radio. I have also been
thinking of having a handheld GPS and COM for backup and convenience.
Should I look for a handheld that is a combination GPS and COM? What types
are out there? Do I really have the space in a model IV for the things I
mentioned above? What special needs for the kitfox do I need to consider
when perusing Trade-a-plane?
I have seen some ads for the Trimble Terra units which look nice and
compact. Are these decent units? What's are reasonable prices to pay for
Terra units in good working condition?
Sorry for all the questions. Please lend me your experience and guide me in
the right direction.
Mark Scott
Elkton, MD
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| Subject: | Re: Cad file for Panel? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Cliff,
I have an Autocad file of a Series 5 panel that
someone sent to me. I used that for some of the
patterns for my Classic IV panel. If you're
interested, I'll send you the file off list.
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
do not archive
--- Clifford Begnaud <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford
> Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
> Does anyone have an accurate cad file of the model
> 5/6/7 instrument panel
> that you would be willing to share?
> I'm planning to build a new panel and don't have any
> kind of template.
> Thanks,
> Cliff
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/chat
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Back from NY and back on the list (OFF TOPIC) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
Hello to All,
I'm back from NY and my son has officially "jumped the broomstick".
The wedding was very nice and I was very impressed with upstate NY. The
weather was great and I got to spend an entire day riding a Harley with
my daughter. It was so nice in fact; that my son has decided to move
there instead of coming back to Nome. (I lose more good help that way)
Go figure? It was 31F this morning. Summer has officially gone from
Alaska.
I will be off to Austin, Texas the end of October to sit for the Land
Surveyor exam and would love
to visit (fly??) with one of you locals. Any takers can contact me off
list.
Scott in Nome
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | October KitPlanes Magazine |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock <scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
Well, as I warned you the October issue of KitPlanes Magazine has my
tale about financing the "Arctic Fox".
I was surprised that it is the better part of a whole page. (I didn't
think I was that interesting?)
No room for the nice picture of me and the "Arctic Fox" though. That
probably would have been too much even for my ego to take, gracefully.
George, I did mention your name to Cory as the wonderful guy who
financed this for me but she didn't want to print your name without
permission (I guess)
Feel free to offer any puns, jeers or "flames" as you will.
Scott in Nome
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| Subject: | October KitPlanes Magazine |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
Hi Scott,
Thanks for your nice email as well (I will write back, too)! So nice to hear
that you're back and that your issue arrived quickly. I had hoped that there
would be room for pictures, but it was not to be... Your story is a
wonderful one, and it's always nice to have a testament to the brotherhood
(and sisterhood <grin>) of pilots. Thanks for everything!
best, Cory
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock
<scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
Well, as I warned you the October issue of KitPlanes Magazine has my
tale about financing the "Arctic Fox".
I was surprised that it is the better part of a whole page. (I didn't
think I was that interesting?)
No room for the nice picture of me and the "Arctic Fox" though. That
probably would have been too much even for my ego to take, gracefully.
George, I did mention your name to Cory as the wonderful guy who
financed this for me but she didn't want to print your name without
permission (I guess)
Feel free to offer any puns, jeers or "flames" as you will.
Scott in Nome
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| Subject: | Re: Out of retirement (off topic) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
Don,
Were you ever actually retired, or just off on
vacation between jobs? :-)
Watch out for those helos. Helos can bite back. They
need excess reliable power, not marginal power and die
off quickly with density altitude. They can be a lot
of fun, but you have to keep an eye on them at all
times. I have a good bit of helo time and some of it
was scary.
Kurt S.
Kurt,
They are using "HIRTH" engines (so much for excess power and
reliability). I will work on them but keep my feet on the ground. I found three
problems
on the demo today one of which is an accident looking for a place to happen.
So far it's great, I work for them 3 hours a day and then shift hangers to
work on mine. Cowl is coming along pretty good.
Yes, I fully retired from Federal Civil Service last December at 57. Was
getting tired of everyday being a Saturday.
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Have any Listers bought the door "gas springs", the devices |
that hold our
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Have any Listers bought the door "gas springs", the devices that hold our
doors open? If so, what did you pay for them? Where did you buy them?
I haven't bought these but get the impression they aren't very expensive.
Here in Australia they only cost $22AU each to regass so if that's your
problem maybe regass rather than renew. www.strutregassa.com.au
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Kitfox radio choices |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Mark
I'll take a shot at this one. I'm not sure why you need a COM backup unless
you intend to fly IFR (not likely in a Kitfox). COMs don't fail much any
more...and if it does fail...just go land someplace. I consider a handheld
GPS that shows airspace a good idea...a few great ones available now at
around $500 and up from Garmin and Lawrence. I would forget about the VOR
(forget what your instructor says).
On the cheap, I would go with a panel mounted COM (icom or king) ,
Transponder (an unavoidable big cost item unless your lucky with a used
unit), and possibly a cheap used panel mount GPS, and as a backup, a current
generation $500 GPS which shows airspaces (something like a GARMIN GPSMAP-96
or LOWRANCE AirMap 500) . If you live where there are lots of TFR's,
consider the Control Vision Anywhere Map GPS/ipaq, which allows you to
upload current TFR's prior to each flight. If you want to see how it all
fits, take a look...
http://www.sportflight.com/uploads/Instument_Panel_with_iPaq.jpg
One more thing...wait as long as possible before buying your avionics...that
perfect GPS/COMM/whatever always hits the market a week after you buy yours.
Steve Zakreski
Calgary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Scott
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox radio choices
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mark Scott" <scottm@dol.net>
Hello all, I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding
radio/avionics choices for a model IV Kitfox. I am a student pilot (just
soloed this past weekend) and intend to start working on my kitfox very soon
(bought someone else's project last year). I have the basic flight
instruments already, but no radios. This is the area where I have the least
knowledge as far as what names/units are good, which types I should stay
away from, what kind of prices to expect, etc. I will probably be looking
for deals on the used market where possible just to be cost conscious. I
will need a transponder for some of the areas I will be flying in, and was
also thinking of having a VOR, Nav, and com radio. I have also been
thinking of having a handheld GPS and COM for backup and convenience.
Should I look for a handheld that is a combination GPS and COM? What types
are out there? Do I really have the space in a model IV for the things I
mentioned above? What special needs for the kitfox do I need to consider
when perusing Trade-a-plane?
I have seen some ads for the Trimble Terra units which look nice and
compact. Are these decent units? What's are reasonable prices to pay for
Terra units in good working condition?
Sorry for all the questions. Please lend me your experience and guide me in
the right direction.
Mark Scott
Elkton, MD
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| Subject: | Re: Bottom False Ribs |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
The Kitfox II wing is an undercamber design. You could make false ribs
but they should follow the lines of the true ribs and you would have to
put in a small spar (sparlet) to support the ends. I doubt they would
be of much use other than add complexity and weight. The undercamber
airfoil is a very good STOL foil, it can be made faster with horsepower,
but for speed you would really need a different foil and that would
really be out of character for the Model II, which is a fun, take off
from a pasture in 100 feet, low and slow, fly with the doors open kind
of plane. Frankly that, in my book, beats speed all hollow for just
pure fun.
Jerry Liles
Jerry Liles
Jose M. Toro wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
>
>Hi All:
>
>Is it possible to adapt bottom false ribs to KF II wings? Would this make the
wing faster? What increase in weight should I expect?
>
>
>Jos M. Toro, P.E.
>Kitfox II/582
>"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Gap sealing tape (again) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian" <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
Hi All,
I know that there was a roll of tape circulating around the list for a while. But
is there a web site of some sort with at least a comparable tape to order that
any one has tested out.
I have been using regular clear box sealing tape. But it falls apart after about
10 hours of flight time. It is not too thick, and the glue is starting to make
a mess out of the paint. I tried the ski saver stuff from a ski shop, but it
is discontinued as for as they know, plus it had patterns all over it when it
was available.
thanks
Jay Fabian
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| Subject: | Re: door gas pistons |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@rcn.com>
Advance Auto has them. If you need
a number let me know. They had to order mine.
Glenn- Model II
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: door gas pistons
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
Have any Listers bought the door "gas springs", the devices that hold our
doors open? If so, what did you pay for them? Where did you buy them?
Thanks, Ron
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <michaelgibbs@cox.net>
Michel says,
<http://www.paysonroundup.com/section/frontpage_lead/story/16395>
Does anyone know anything more?
Don's right, it was me and a friend from work. Although the newspaper
clipping got a little bit of it right, they didn't do such a good job on the
details.
After breakfast and re-fueling at Payson, AZ, we took off to return to Phoenix
(typically about a 30 to 40 minute flight). The NTSB and FAA are both still
investigating and I am suffering from some memory loss as a result of the
impact, so I can't say too much, but I can tell you that I am not aware of any
pre-accident failure of the engine, propeller, airframe, or flight controls.
There was no attempt at a landing because we were attempting to keep
flying! Impact was in an area of very rough terrain that really slowed down
rescue attempts. My advice is that if you decide to crash your airplane, do so
where rescuers will be able to reach you easily.
Injuries were more severe than originally reported. Both of us suffered facial
injuries after smashing our heads into the panel. Both of my legs are broken
below the knee and my passenger fractured a vertebra along with his pelvis.
When we arrived at the hospital I stopped breathing and had to be intubated
on the heli-pad. Total time from crash to arrival at the hospital was nearly
five hours (odds of a successful recovery increase dramatically if this can be
kept to an hour or less). The week after the crash one of my doctors told me
that he had not expected my passenger or I to have survived.
My passenger was able to return to work this week, but I remain in the
hospital unable to walk. I have had 4 surgeries so far and they expect one
more will be required to complete repairs on my leg bones.
Thanks for the kind thoughts and wishes from the list. I look forward to
getting back into the saddle. It won't be in this Kitfox, however, because the
airplane was completely destroyed in the accident (lots of tears). I'd like to
think that the airplane sacrificed itself doing just what it was supposed to
do--it protected us from the worst of the fierce impact.
The airframe had about 70 hours on it at the time of the accident.
Mike G.
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| Subject: | Re: My 912UL oil change proceedure |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Arthur" <alnan@earthlink.net>
Hi Lowell,
I guess ccw wasn't very clear. I mean ccw as I face the prop whilst
turning it by hand in the normal direction of prop rotation.
Thanks, Allan
----------
>From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: My 912UL oil change proceedure
>Date: Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 6:27 PM
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> Just one thought Allan. When you ay turn the prop counter clockwise to
> purge the oil lines do you mean counter to the normal rotation of the prop.
> If that is what you meant, Rotax STRONGLY recommends never turn the prop
> backwards more than one blade. There apparently have been instances where
> air has been sucked into the lines and it can be hard to purge using the.
> Granted, this advice might refer only to normal operational times, but at
> the OSH forum it was mentioned during the oil change discussion.
>
> I have always just let the thing drain without the oil filter for a while,
> They discouraged that also.
>
> Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox crash |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 9/14/04 6:36:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
michaelgibbs@cox.net writes:
> Don's right, it was me and a friend from work. Although the newspaper
> clipping got a little bit of it right, they didn't do such a good job on the
>
> details.
>
Mike,
Glad to hear that both of you made it OK (if OK is the right word).
Don't like to hear reports worse than yours. Take care of yourself and do some
healing.
Don Smythe
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Kitfox radio choices |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Mark,
I agree with Steve, wait until you have to buy 'em.
You might consider the garmin Apollo SL-40. Good radio and great intercom
built in.
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Zakreski
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox radio choices
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Mark
I'll take a shot at this one. I'm not sure why you need a COM backup unless
you intend to fly IFR (not likely in a Kitfox). COMs don't fail much any
more...and if it does fail...just go land someplace. I consider a handheld
GPS that shows airspace a good idea...a few great ones available now at
around $500 and up from Garmin and Lawrence. I would forget about the VOR
(forget what your instructor says).
On the cheap, I would go with a panel mounted COM (icom or king) ,
Transponder (an unavoidable big cost item unless your lucky with a used
unit), and possibly a cheap used panel mount GPS, and as a backup, a current
generation $500 GPS which shows airspaces (something like a GARMIN GPSMAP-96
or LOWRANCE AirMap 500) . If you live where there are lots of TFR's,
consider the Control Vision Anywhere Map GPS/ipaq, which allows you to
upload current TFR's prior to each flight. If you want to see how it all
fits, take a look...
http://www.sportflight.com/uploads/Instument_Panel_with_iPaq.jpg
One more thing...wait as long as possible before buying your avionics...that
perfect GPS/COMM/whatever always hits the market a week after you buy yours.
Steve Zakreski
Calgary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Scott
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox radio choices
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mark Scott" <scottm@dol.net>
Hello all, I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding
radio/avionics choices for a model IV Kitfox. I am a student pilot (just
soloed this past weekend) and intend to start working on my kitfox very soon
(bought someone else's project last year). I have the basic flight
instruments already, but no radios. This is the area where I have the least
knowledge as far as what names/units are good, which types I should stay
away from, what kind of prices to expect, etc. I will probably be looking
for deals on the used market where possible just to be cost conscious. I
will need a transponder for some of the areas I will be flying in, and was
also thinking of having a VOR, Nav, and com radio. I have also been
thinking of having a handheld GPS and COM for backup and convenience.
Should I look for a handheld that is a combination GPS and COM? What types
are out there? Do I really have the space in a model IV for the things I
mentioned above? What special needs for the kitfox do I need to consider
when perusing Trade-a-plane?
I have seen some ads for the Trimble Terra units which look nice and
compact. Are these decent units? What's are reasonable prices to pay for
Terra units in good working condition?
Sorry for all the questions. Please lend me your experience and guide me in
the right direction.
Mark Scott
Elkton, MD
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| Subject: | Doors Opening on S-6 |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Banes" <JohnBanes@Adelphia.net>
Hi David,
Thank you!!!
John
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of david yeamans
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Doors Opening on S-6
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "david yeamans" <dafox@ckt.net>
Hello John,
When I installed my gas struts, I wanted the door to open as high as
possible to give more room getting into the cockpit, but not touch the wing.
I allowed 1/4 " clerence between the door and the wing. It flys
great
with the door's open. It dosen't need the wing to stabolize it, and best not
to have that contact. the Kitfox was designed to fly with the doors open,
and it does fly great that way. The doors hardly move when you are flying
with them open. Its one of the best thrills in a Kitfox!!!!! Do It !!!
David
----- Original Message -----
From: John Banes
To: Kitfox list - Matronics
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 8:01 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Doors Opening on S-6
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Banes" <JohnBanes@Adelphia.net>
I'm ready to install the gas struts on the doors. Neither door touches
the
flush type drains on the wings when the door is fully open. Since I only
get one shot at the final adjustment I would greatly appreciate input on
the
following.
How much clearance should there be between the bottom of the wing and the
door when it is open? Is it better to have it open so that it contacts
the
wing to help steady the door when it is open for flight? If not then how
much clearance is enough to allow flexing of the door in flight without
contacting the wing?
Thanks in advance,
John Banes
S-6 912S
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| Subject: | Cad file for Panel? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Banes" <JohnBanes@Adelphia.net>
Hi Cliff,
I have cad files for the S6 fiberglass panel with aluminum inserts. The
files are in Autocad AutoSketch format. The drawings are for the inserts
only. I can convert them to ".dwg" files if needed. Just let me know.
John Banes
S6 912S
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clifford
Begnaud
Subject: Kitfox-List: Cad file for Panel?
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
<shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Does anyone have an accurate cad file of the model 5/6/7 instrument panel
that you would be willing to share?
I'm planning to build a new panel and don't have any kind of template.
Thanks,
Cliff
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| Subject: | Gap sealing tape (again) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
It is called SkiSaver tape. I will look for their number.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jay Fabian
Subject: Kitfox-List: Gap sealing tape (again)
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian"
<experimental208nd@comcast.net>
Hi All,
I know that there was a roll of tape circulating around the list for a
while. But is there a web site of some sort with at least a comparable tape
to order that any one has tested out.
I have been using regular clear box sealing tape. But it falls apart after
about 10 hours of flight time. It is not too thick, and the glue is starting
to make a mess out of the paint. I tried the ski saver stuff from a ski
shop, but it is discontinued as for as they know, plus it had patterns all
over it when it was available.
thanks
Jay Fabian
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| Subject: | Kitfox radio choices |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Mark
Actually, I have both the Apollo COMM and transponder. I agree, great
units!...and very thin in the radio stack. The Apollo (which became
UPS...now Garmin) radio has two great features...first, as Randy says, you
won't need an intercom, and second, you can monitor two frequencies at the
same time...ie; listen to ATIS while monitoring the mandatory frequency.
SteveZ
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Randy
Daughenbaugh
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox radio choices
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Mark,
I agree with Steve, wait until you have to buy 'em.
You might consider the garmin Apollo SL-40. Good radio and great intercom
built in.
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Zakreski
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox radio choices
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Mark
I'll take a shot at this one. I'm not sure why you need a COM backup unless
you intend to fly IFR (not likely in a Kitfox). COMs don't fail much any
more...and if it does fail...just go land someplace. I consider a handheld
GPS that shows airspace a good idea...a few great ones available now at
around $500 and up from Garmin and Lawrence. I would forget about the VOR
(forget what your instructor says).
On the cheap, I would go with a panel mounted COM (icom or king) ,
Transponder (an unavoidable big cost item unless your lucky with a used
unit), and possibly a cheap used panel mount GPS, and as a backup, a current
generation $500 GPS which shows airspaces (something like a GARMIN GPSMAP-96
or LOWRANCE AirMap 500) . If you live where there are lots of TFR's,
consider the Control Vision Anywhere Map GPS/ipaq, which allows you to
upload current TFR's prior to each flight. If you want to see how it all
fits, take a look...
http://www.sportflight.com/uploads/Instument_Panel_with_iPaq.jpg
One more thing...wait as long as possible before buying your avionics...that
perfect GPS/COMM/whatever always hits the market a week after you buy yours.
Steve Zakreski
Calgary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Scott
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox radio choices
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Mark Scott" <scottm@dol.net>
Hello all, I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding
radio/avionics choices for a model IV Kitfox. I am a student pilot (just
soloed this past weekend) and intend to start working on my kitfox very soon
(bought someone else's project last year). I have the basic flight
instruments already, but no radios. This is the area where I have the least
knowledge as far as what names/units are good, which types I should stay
away from, what kind of prices to expect, etc. I will probably be looking
for deals on the used market where possible just to be cost conscious. I
will need a transponder for some of the areas I will be flying in, and was
also thinking of having a VOR, Nav, and com radio. I have also been
thinking of having a handheld GPS and COM for backup and convenience.
Should I look for a handheld that is a combination GPS and COM? What types
are out there? Do I really have the space in a model IV for the things I
mentioned above? What special needs for the kitfox do I need to consider
when perusing Trade-a-plane?
I have seen some ads for the Trimble Terra units which look nice and
compact. Are these decent units? What's are reasonable prices to pay for
Terra units in good working condition?
Sorry for all the questions. Please lend me your experience and guide me in
the right direction.
Mark Scott
Elkton, MD
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| Subject: | Back from NY and back on the list (OFF TOPIC) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Scott,
You get by Idaho.. give me a shout...
Blue Skies
John & Debra McBean
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Scott McClintock
Subject: Kitfox-List: Back from NY and back on the list (OFF TOPIC)
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Scott McClintock
<scott_mcclintock@dot.state.ak.us>
Hello to All,
I'm back from NY and my son has officially "jumped the broomstick".
The wedding was very nice and I was very impressed with upstate NY. The
weather was great and I got to spend an entire day riding a Harley with
my daughter. It was so nice in fact; that my son has decided to move
there instead of coming back to Nome. (I lose more good help that way)
Go figure? It was 31F this morning. Summer has officially gone from
Alaska.
I will be off to Austin, Texas the end of October to sit for the Land
Surveyor exam and would love
to visit (fly??) with one of you locals. Any takers can contact me off
list.
Scott in Nome
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Michael,
I sure hope you have a speedy and full recovery, but it sounds like you have
been through a lot of pain already. Thank you for sharing your crash story
with us. Do you have any idea of what caused the crash landing?
Your advice about making a forced landing where rescue will be easiest is
good. I will remember that.
I hope you can go home soon.
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
michaelgibbs@cox.net
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox crash
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <michaelgibbs@cox.net>
Michel says,
<http://www.paysonroundup.com/section/frontpage_lead/story/16395>
Does anyone know anything more?
Don's right, it was me and a friend from work. Although the newspaper
clipping got a little bit of it right, they didn't do such a good job on the
details.
After breakfast and re-fueling at Payson, AZ, we took off to return to
Phoenix
(typically about a 30 to 40 minute flight). The NTSB and FAA are both still
investigating and I am suffering from some memory loss as a result of the
impact, so I can't say too much, but I can tell you that I am not aware of
any
pre-accident failure of the engine, propeller, airframe, or flight controls.
There was no attempt at a landing because we were attempting to keep
flying! Impact was in an area of very rough terrain that really slowed down
rescue attempts. My advice is that if you decide to crash your airplane, do
so
where rescuers will be able to reach you easily.
Injuries were more severe than originally reported. Both of us suffered
facial
injuries after smashing our heads into the panel. Both of my legs are
broken
below the knee and my passenger fractured a vertebra along with his pelvis.
When we arrived at the hospital I stopped breathing and had to be intubated
on the heli-pad. Total time from crash to arrival at the hospital was
nearly
five hours (odds of a successful recovery increase dramatically if this can
be
kept to an hour or less). The week after the crash one of my doctors told
me
that he had not expected my passenger or I to have survived.
My passenger was able to return to work this week, but I remain in the
hospital unable to walk. I have had 4 surgeries so far and they expect one
more will be required to complete repairs on my leg bones.
Thanks for the kind thoughts and wishes from the list. I look forward to
getting back into the saddle. It won't be in this Kitfox, however, because
the
airplane was completely destroyed in the accident (lots of tears). I'd like
to
think that the airplane sacrificed itself doing just what it was supposed to
do--it protected us from the worst of the fierce impact.
The airframe had about 70 hours on it at the time of the accident.
Mike G.
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| Subject: | Re: Gap sealing tape (again) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
I found Skuff Saver Tape on 3/30/04 at Tognar Toolworks, 691 Washington St.,
Ashland Oregon, 97520. Telephone (541) 488-9103. The price at that time
was $2.95 per foot. The company did not have a web-site.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Fabian" <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Gap sealing tape (again)
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian"
> <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
>
> Hi All,
> I know that there was a roll of tape circulating around the list for a
> while. But is there a web site of some sort with at least a comparable
> tape to order that any one has tested out.
> I have been using regular clear box sealing tape. But it falls apart after
> about 10 hours of flight time. It is not too thick, and the glue is
> starting to make a mess out of the paint. I tried the ski saver stuff from
> a ski shop, but it is discontinued as for as they know, plus it had
> patterns all over it when it was available.
> thanks
> Jay Fabian
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Gap sealing tape (again) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
Here is a web site that sells real gap seal tape. I have not tried any of
these products, but they really sound good.
http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page29.htm
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Gap sealing tape (again)
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
It is called SkiSaver tape. I will look for their number.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jay Fabian
Subject: Kitfox-List: Gap sealing tape (again)
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian"
<experimental208nd@comcast.net>
Hi All,
I know that there was a roll of tape circulating around the list for a
while. But is there a web site of some sort with at least a comparable tape
to order that any one has tested out.
I have been using regular clear box sealing tape. But it falls apart after
about 10 hours of flight time. It is not too thick, and the glue is starting
to make a mess out of the paint. I tried the ski saver stuff from a ski
shop, but it is discontinued as for as they know, plus it had patterns all
over it when it was available.
thanks
Jay Fabian
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