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1. 01:35 AM - SV: SportPilot/Gross Weight Issue (Michel Verheughe)
2. 01:40 AM - Faring wing struts (Graeme Toft)
3. 03:13 AM - Re: Oil Tank Vent (Fox5flyer)
4. 08:27 AM - Cargo pod (Alberto Barba)
5. 09:12 AM - Re: Airdale - John Larsen (John Larsen)
6. 12:33 PM - Re: I had the impression that the sideslip technique was (Michel Verheughe)
7. 12:38 PM - Re: Tail wheel first. ??. (Michel Verheughe)
8. 12:41 PM - Re: Kitfox III (Michel Verheughe)
9. 01:32 PM - Re: Airdale - John Larsen (Jose M. Toro)
10. 01:34 PM - Re: Kitfox III (Jose M. Toro)
11. 02:00 PM - Tires & Wheels! (KITFOXPILOT@att.net)
12. 03:22 PM - Re: Gas template for #1 rib (icaza francisco)
13. 07:25 PM - Re: SportPilot/Gross Weight Issue (jimshumaker)
14. 07:33 PM - Re: Tail wheel first. ??. (jimshumaker)
15. 07:38 PM - Re: Tail wheel first. ??. (jimshumaker)
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| Subject: | SportPilot/Gross Weight Issue |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Lowell Fitt [lcfitt@inreach.com]
>This is the "Light Sport Aircraft" or LSA.
Probably off-topic, but as I try to understand all the different classes on both
sides of the big pond, I was browsing Rod Machado's last night and I came accross
the "Recreational Pilot License." Except for a few details, it looks pretty
much like what I have and what over here we call the Microlight license.
One thing that surprised me, though, is the the US recreational license forbids
pilots to fly in controlled airspace. Over here, with the Microlight license,
you do as you want, but if you fly in controlled airspace you need the aviation
radio operator license which is not specific to Microlights but common with
the PPL-A (Private Pilot) guys.
I am not sure how having a license to fly a light aircraft, yet being denied the
use of radio operation, contributes to aviation safety. Maybe someone cares
to explain that to me.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Faring wing struts |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
Can anyone help with advice or templates as to how I can make timber fairings for
my Model 1 wing struts.
Thanks in advance
Graeme
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Tank Vent |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Thanks Kurt. That looks like it'll do the job.
Darrel
>
> Sure Darrel,
>
> SUM-G1506 = RED, -1505 = Blue, -1504 = Black.
>
> I changed out the Summit fittings to more substantial
> fittings and ran 1/2" ID hose to the breather. I then
> capped off the oil return line to the oil pan, which
> is were I got the back pressure blowing oil out my
> origional air/oil seperator. In the end, the whole
> thing weighed slightly less than the origional air/oil
> seperator. I do have to drain it occasionally though.
>
> Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
>
> --- Fox5flyer <morid@northland.lib.mi.us> wrote:
>
> > Kurt, do you have a part number handy for that?
> > Darrel
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oil Tank Vent
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> > >
> > > Different engine, but I routed my vent to a 1 qt
> > > breather I bought from the Summit cataloge. Works
> > > well and no mess. You can of course use a smaller
> > > bottle, but the idea works. Others here taught it
> > > to me.
> > >
> > > Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Alberto Barba" <ambarba@megared.net.mx>
Can anyone help me with the installation of the cargo pod
in a serie 6 ...instructions ..pictures..comments
Alberto Barba
Kitfox S6
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| Subject: | Re: Airdale - John Larsen |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com>
Hello;
I fly the prototype and am building the production model from Steve. I
use a Stratus Subaru which performs comparably with the 912S. in HP and GPH.
Thanks
John
Jose M. Toro wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
>
>John:
>
>What kind of Airdale do you have? Is it a modified fuselage, or a new fuselage
built by Steve? What engine are you using?
>
>Jose
>
>John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com> wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen
>
>Hi Jerry
>They deploy 30 degrees.
>
>Jerry Liles wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles
>>
>>John,
>>What is the deployment limit for the Airdale?
>>
>>John Larsen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen
>>>
>>>After a many year and many Avid-Kfox flights I now use full flaperons on
>>>final which gives a much slower touchdown speed and then shove the
>>>handle forward when the mains touch. This plants the tail and keeps the
>>>plane from vacillating between float and touchdown. I use it on my
>>>Airdale, and found it works well with the Series 4-7 Foxes I have flown.
>>>Works very well with nose heavy conditions. Full flaperons will give you
>>>some adverse yaw problems with the Avids and Series 1-3 Foxes.
>>>
>>>Jerry Liles wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles
>>>>
>>>>I've limited Tootie Mae to 10 deg flaps and routinely use it to shorten
>>>>takeoff and landing roll. That gives a useful increase in lift and
>>>>decreases stall speed a bit without getting into the poor control
>>>>response area. It doesn't, however, add a whole lot of additional
>>>>drag. Foxes and Avids tend to begin to lose aileron effectiveness at
>>>>low speeds with more deployment and there can be a problem with control
>>>>with excess deployment, especially beyond 15deg . 10 degrees works for
>>>>me and I use it all the time. If I need to get down in a hurry a side
>>>>slip can't be beat, and it's a lot more fun than just jerking on a
>>>>handle. Many pilots don't or won't use flaps because of the control
>>>>issue, but I bet they would if they just limited deployment.
>>>>Jerry Liles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>Jose M. Toro, P.E.
>Kitfox II/582
>"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: I had the impression that the sideslip technique was |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Rex & Jan Shaw wrote:
> Whatever way I find it feels decidedly arkward.
Thanks for your comment, Rex and Rick.
I don't find forward slip awkward, I just love it and do it on purpose all the
time. Only that now I know it is a forward slip and not side slip! :-) And
indeed, when I do it, my heading is not the runway but sideways.
But I still have to find out how to sink at 2,000 fpm because, as I said, I
have the pedal at the end of its course and if I bank more, I am pretty sure I
will turn. I just have to try and take notes next time I fly alone.
What I do, really, is to come on final too high. I then forward slip, banking
to the left, pedal to the right. the nose is at an angle of maybe 20 degrees
with the runway axis and I bank maybe 30 degrees. I concentrate on the point
where I want to land (on the marks, preferably) and when I feel I have lost
enough altitude to arrive to a normal glide path, I center the stick and pedal
and I am right in line for the flaring. I just love that feeling.
Maybe I should try to practice this at altitude, anywhere, without looking at a
runway and not bothering on my heading.
As Torgeir's link confirmed, side or forward slip is not really dangerous (as
opposed to a skid) because the slower wing is the high wing and if it stalls,
it has to go through level attitude before it goes down and can induce a spin.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wheel first. ??. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
> It would seem to me to be desirable to plant the tail wheel first.
Well, ... I aim for three-point landing, Randy. I am not saying I manage that
each time but that's my aim as I understand it is the correct way to land a
taildragger. Landing on the tailwheel is probably ok if it can take the initial
shock. I can see that my rudder's bottom has a small scratch. It must have
occured during a landing when the Maule gear grease cup has hit the rudder. I
don't know when it happened but I guess the tailwheel has its limits too.
Cheers,
Michel
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Jimmie Blackwell wrote:
> Considering that I want to mount a radio and transponder on the panel is it feasible
to make the in front of the panel gas tank disappear and install another
wing tank?
I have two wing tanks and a header tank behind the seat in my model III,
Jimmie. I just love it but I can't tell you about the availability of tanks for
the undercambered model III wing. Good luck
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Airdale - John Larsen |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
John:
What are the differences between an Avid Plus and an Airdale?
Jose
John Larsen <jopatco@mindspring.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen
Hello;
I fly the prototype and am building the production model from Steve. I
use a Stratus Subaru which performs comparably with the 912S. in HP and GPH.
Thanks
John
Jose M. Toro wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro"
>
>John:
>
>What kind of Airdale do you have? Is it a modified fuselage, or a new fuselage
built by Steve? What engine are you using?
>
>Jose
>
>John Larsen wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen
>
>Hi Jerry
>They deploy 30 degrees.
>
>Jerry Liles wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles
>>
>>John,
>>What is the deployment limit for the Airdale?
>>
>>John Larsen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John Larsen
>>>
>>>After a many year and many Avid-Kfox flights I now use full flaperons on
>>>final which gives a much slower touchdown speed and then shove the
>>>handle forward when the mains touch. This plants the tail and keeps the
>>>plane from vacillating between float and touchdown. I use it on my
>>>Airdale, and found it works well with the Series 4-7 Foxes I have flown.
>>>Works very well with nose heavy conditions. Full flaperons will give you
>>>some adverse yaw problems with the Avids and Series 1-3 Foxes.
>>>
>>>Jerry Liles wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles
>>>>
>>>>I've limited Tootie Mae to 10 deg flaps and routinely use it to shorten
>>>>takeoff and landing roll. That gives a useful increase in lift and
>>>>decreases stall speed a bit without getting into the poor control
>>>>response area. It doesn't, however, add a whole lot of additional
>>>>drag. Foxes and Avids tend to begin to lose aileron effectiveness at
>>>>low speeds with more deployment and there can be a problem with control
>>>>with excess deployment, especially beyond 15deg . 10 degrees works for
>>>>me and I use it all the time. If I need to get down in a hurry a side
>>>>slip can't be beat, and it's a lot more fun than just jerking on a
>>>>handle. Many pilots don't or won't use flaps because of the control
>>>>issue, but I bet they would if they just limited deployment.
>>>>Jerry Liles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>Jose M. Toro, P.E.
>Kitfox II/582
>"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>
>
>
Jose M. Toro, P.E.
Kitfox II/582
"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
Michel:
Steve Winder from Airdale (www.airdale.com) could sell you a tank for a Model III wing.
Jose
Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe
Jimmie Blackwell wrote:
> Considering that I want to mount a radio and transponder on the panel is it feasible
to make the in front of the panel gas tank disappear and install another
wing tank?
I have two wing tanks and a header tank behind the seat in my model III,
Jimmie. I just love it but I can't tell you about the availability of tanks for
the undercambered model III wing. Good luck
Cheers,
Michel
Jose M. Toro, P.E.
Kitfox II/582
"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXPILOT@att.net
Does anyone on the list have a pair of original wheels and the Chen-Shin slick
tires that they would be willing to sell? I want to stay with the original look
of my Kitfox! Call me at (301) 518-2262 or email me.
Thanks
Ray
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of my Kitfox! Call me at (301) 518-2262 or email me.
Thanks
Ray
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| Subject: | Re: Gas template for #1 rib |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: icaza francisco <franicaza@yahoo.com.mx>
Thanks a lot Grant,
I appresiate very much.
Francisco.
--- Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com> escribi:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent
> <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Francisco,
>
> Try this link for the gas gauge decals:
>
> http://www.sportflight.com/kfb/gasgauge.htm
>
> Grant Fluent
> Newcastle,NE
> Classic IV 912S
>
>
> --- icaza francisco <franicaza@yahoo.com.mx> wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: icaza francisco
> > <franicaza@yahoo.com.mx>
> >
> > Hello list.
> >
> > I have not found at Sportflight.com the template
> for
> > the gas measure at the first rib. Does someone
> know
> > where I can download it?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Francisco Icaza (Classic IV)
> >
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| Subject: | Re: SportPilot/Gross Weight Issue |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Michel
The use of the radio is not denied to the recreational pilot or the sport
pilot. Pilots are no longer required to have a radio operators license in
the US. Therefore no mention is made of the license in the rules. Does
that answer the question?
Jim Shumaker
> One thing that surprised me, though, is the the US recreational license
forbids pilots to fly in controlled airspace. Over here, with the Microlight
license, you do as you want, but if you fly in controlled airspace you need
the aviation radio operator license which is not specific to Microlights but
common with the PPL-A (Private Pilot) guys.
> I am not sure how having a license to fly a light aircraft, yet being
denied the use of radio operation, contributes to aviation safety. Maybe
someone cares to explain that to me.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wheel first. ??. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
> Randy Daughenbaugh wrote:
> > It would seem to me to be desirable to plant the tail wheel first.
>
Randy
It is OK to plant the tailwheel first, if you can. But in a crosswind the
tailwheel may tend to pull the tail harder than the rudder at the moment of
touching which could cause a swerve downwind, so be ready. That is another
reason that in strong crosswinds the wheel landing is preferred.
Jim Shumaker
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wheel first. ??. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jimshumaker" <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
Michel
I hope you tailwheel spring is not bending Michel. A friend of mine just
rode a homebuilt into the ground because of the tailspring bending into the
rudder and locking it to one side. Please check it for me so I don't worry
about you.
Jim Shumaker
Landing on the tailwheel is probably ok if it can take the initial
> shock. I can see that my rudder's bottom has a small scratch. It must have
> occured during a landing when the Maule gear grease cup has hit the
rudder. I
> don't know when it happened but I guess the tailwheel has its limits too.
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