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     1. 04:49 AM - Wide track (Bill Pleso)
     2. 06:12 AM - Re: Grove Gear for Model IV (Jimmie Blackwell)
     3. 06:20 AM - Tygon Tubing (Jimmie Blackwell)
     4. 06:27 AM - Re: Tygon Tubing (flier)
     5. 06:37 AM - Re: Tygon Tubing (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
     6. 06:43 AM - Re: Tygon Tubing (Lowell Fitt)
     7. 07:18 AM - Re: Tygon Tubing (Ron)
     8. 07:45 AM - Re: Tygon Tubing (Grant Fluent)
     9. 09:09 AM - Re: Tygon Tubing (Clint Bazzill)
    10. 09:27 AM - Re: Tygon Tubing (Fox5flyer)
    11. 09:31 AM - Re: Tygon Tubing (Roger Standley)
    12. 09:33 AM - Re: Tygon Tubing (Ron)
    13. 10:19 AM - Re: Tygon Tubing (Marc Arseneault)
    14. 10:21 AM - Rotax 914 UL Oil (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
    15. 12:13 PM - Hot Prop (John Oakley)
    16. 03:14 PM - Hirth (off topic) (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
    17. 04:42 PM - Re: Hot Prop (Clem Nichols)
    18. 04:53 PM - Castrol TTS for two strock engines (icaza francisco)
    19. 05:25 PM - Re: Hirth (off topic) (Fox5flyer)
    20. 05:36 PM - Re: Hirth (off topic) (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
    21. 05:43 PM - Re: Tygon Tubing (Steve Cooper)
    22. 06:15 PM - Re: Rotax 914 UL Oil (Lowell Fitt)
    23. 06:21 PM - Re: Hot Prop (Land Shorter)
    24. 06:22 PM - Re: Hirth (off topic) (Bob Unternaehrer)
    25. 07:11 PM - Re: Rotax 914 UL Oil (Jay Fabian)
    26. 07:46 PM - Re: Hirth (off topic) (Brian Peck)
    27. 09:43 PM - Re: Hirth (off topic) (RICHARD HUTSON)
    28. 10:21 PM - Brake Fluid (Rex & Jan Shaw)
    29. 11:31 PM - Re: Castrol TTS for two strock engines (r.thomas@za.pwc.com)
    30. 11:43 PM - Re: Brake Fluid (kurt schrader)
    31. 11:56 PM - Re: Brake Fluid (FlyCyOZ@aol.com)
 
 
 
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bill Pleso" <bill77@cox.net>
      
      Builders,
          I'm considering changing the main gear on my Model IV.  Avid has a bungee style
      for the Kitfox that gives it an 11" wider stance.  How much wider is the
      Grove spring style gear than the stock mains?
      Bill
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Grove Gear for Model IV | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
      
      Stan
      
      Bet it did ruin your day.  I sure do not want that kind of a day.
      Thanks Stan.
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <SOURDOSTAN@aol.com>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Grove Gear for Model IV
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: SOURDOSTAN@aol.com
      >
      > Jimmie-
      >
      > I changed over my bungee gear to Grove gear and it added 11#.  It'e well
      > worth the change over to the new gear just for the confidence of the new
      gear and
      > peace of mind.  My bungee gear broke alongside a weld in the axle cluster
      and
      > messed up my whole day!!!
      >
      > Hope this helps you decide.
      >
      > Stan Specht
      > N16KC  "Columbine"
      > Kitfox Model IV Speedster 912ul
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
      
      I need to replace the Tygon tubing connections to my wing tanks.  Has anyone been
      able purchase it from an auto parts store.  If so which one.
      
      Thanks
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tygon Tubing | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
      
      Small engine repair shops normally carry it.  Try a 
      lawnmower dealer that has a shop.
      
      
      --- Original Message ---
      From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Tygon Tubing
      
      >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie 
      Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
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      >I need to replace the Tygon tubing connections to my 
      wing tanks.  Has anyone been able purchase it from an 
      auto parts store.  If so which one.
      >
      >Thanks
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| Subject:  | Re: Tygon Tubing | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      
      In a message dated 10/5/04 6:22:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
      jablackwell@ev1.net writes:
      
      << 
       I need to replace the Tygon tubing connections to my wing tanks.  Has anyone 
      been able purchase it from an auto parts store.  If so which one.
      
       Thanks
        >>
          The only Tygon tubing good for gasoline is "YELLOW" tygon (might be a 
      broad statement).  You normally won't find the yellow Tygon at auto stores.  At
      
      least, that has been my experience.  On the other hand, the yellow Tygon was 
      furnished in my kit for the wing tank to header vent line only.  There has been
      
      reports of the yellow stuff not performing well after a while (gets hard, etc).
          Why not consider clear Polyurethane from Spruce.  I've used it for all 
      fuel lines and had samples soaking in gasoline for long periods of time.  Never
      
      have seen it loose it's grip, get hard or any other bad thing.  However, it 
      will turn yellowish after a few months.
          Other options are SAE-R7 (rubber fuel line) or SAE-R9 (fuel injected 
      rubber fuel line).  Both are available at the local Auto stores.
      
      Don Smythe
      N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tygon Tubing | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
      
      Jimmie,  I bought some from a motorcycle shop and it was interesting stuff.
      It first absorbed - I guess - fuel or something in the fuel and became
      elongated and quite rubbery.  then it began shrinking - lengthwise  - and
      hardening.  I replaced it when I began worrying that the shrinking would
      eventually cause it to pull from the barb fittings.
      
      There was another formulation of the Tygon, but very expensive.  I didn't
      try that.  I just put in an order at ACS.
      
      Lowell
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Tygon Tubing
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
      <jablackwell@ev1.net>
      >
      > I need to replace the Tygon tubing connections to my wing tanks.  Has
      anyone been able purchase it from an auto parts store.  If so which one.
      >
      > Thanks
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tygon Tubing | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
      
      OK, now I'm starting to get worried...I have had BLUE Tygon at my header
      tank to wing tank return line for 2 years. Because I purge the air from my
      header before each flight I watch the tubing for air until it runs clear of
      bubbles and so far it is as good as the day I put it in. What should I
      expect will happen to it? I use all grades of auto gas as well as avgas on
      occation.
      
      Also, I bought my YELLOW Tygon from the local Honda motorcycle dealer/shop.
      
      Ron  N55KF                               30deg in ChiTown this morning
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tygon Tubing | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
      
      Jimmie,
        Ace Hardware sells the clear vinyl tubing and the
      manufacturer claims it will handle all fuels and
      solvents.  I am thinking about using it but I will
      first test a piece of it in a jar of auto gas, av gas
      and alcohol.
      Grant Fluent
      Newcastle, NE
      Classic IV 912S
      
      
      --- Jimmie Blackwell <jablackwell@ev1.net> wrote:
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie
      > Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
      > 
      > I need to replace the Tygon tubing connections to my
      > wing tanks.  Has anyone been able purchase it from
      > an auto parts store.  If so which one.
      > 
      > Thanks
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Tygon Tubing | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
      
      
      AT my last condition inspection I replaced my yellow tygon tubing. It was still
      in very good condition, slightly stiffer then new but fine. I flexed it, bent
      it checked it all out and it was still fine. Probably seen over 4000 gals of
      100LL and Hi Test Chevron auto fuel. Clint
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tygon Tubing | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      
      Ron, the blue stuff is fine.  I've been using it for years with no problems
      and it's readily available at any snowmobile dealer.  I've never used the
      yellow, but if it says Tygon it should be good.
      Darrel
      
      > OK, now I'm starting to get worried...I have had BLUE Tygon at my header
      > tank to wing tank return line for 2 years. Because I purge the air from my
      > header before each flight I watch the tubing for air until it runs clear
      of
      > bubbles and so far it is as good as the day I put it in. What should I
      > expect will happen to it? I use all grades of auto gas as well as avgas on
      > occation.
      >
      > Also, I bought my YELLOW Tygon from the local Honda motorcycle
      dealer/shop.
      >
      > Ron  N55KF                               30deg in ChiTown this morning
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tygon Tubing | 
      Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:34:40 -0700
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger Standley" <taildragon@msn.com>
      
      Jimmie,
      
      I replaced the yellow tygon over a year ago with the blue Bing alcohol resistant
      fuel line from ACS. Works fine so far. The yellow line was still OK after three
      years but Calif started adding alcohol to auto fuel so I changed to the blue
      line for fuel sight gauges and vent line. Replaced all the mil-std-6000 with
      SAE-R9 for the main fuel lines.
      
      Roger Standley
      N499KF IV-1200 912UL
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Jimmie Blackwell<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>
        To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
        Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 8:28 AM
        Subject: Kitfox-List: Tygon Tubing
      
      
        --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>>
      
        I need to replace the Tygon tubing connections to my wing tanks.  Has anyone
      been able purchase it from an auto parts store.  If so which one.
      
        Thanks
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tygon Tubing | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ron" <rliebmann@comcast.net>
      
      Thanks Darrel....................................ron
      
      
      >
      > Ron, the blue stuff is fine.  I've been using it for years with no
      problems
      > and it's readily available at any snowmobile dealer.  I've never used the
      > yellow, but if it says Tygon it should be good.
      > Darrel
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tygon Tubing | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Marc Arseneault" <northernultralights@hotmail.com>
      
      
      Very good idea to replace the MIL fuel lines as I experiencedit breaking up and
      restricting fuel flow. It wasn't if I was going to have a forced landing but
      a matter of when. If anyone has this stuff I highly recommendreplacingit ASAP.
      
      Best Regards, 
      
      Marc Arseneault 
      Ontario Canada 
      
      From: "Roger Standley" taildragon@msn.com Reply-To: kitfox-list@matronics.com To:
      kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tygon Tubing Date: Tue,
      5 Oct 2004 09:34:40 -0700 -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Roger Standley"
      taildragon@msn.com Jimmie, I replaced the yellow tygon over a year ago with the
      blue Bing alcohol resistant fuel line from ACS. Works fine so far. The yellow
      line was still OK after three years but Calif started adding alcohol to auto
      fuel so I changed to the blue line for fuel sight gauges and vent line. Replaced
      all
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| Subject:  | Rotax 914 UL Oil | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      
      Bob Robertson and all,
          I need the recommended  engine oil for a 914 UL.  Also need the recommended
      gear box oil.
      
      Thanks,
      Don Smythe
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
      
      
      Has any body tried the Hot Prop yet, I am thinking of pulling my NSI
       and installing something else. Its too much work for my wife.
      
      John Oakely
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      AlbertaIV@aol.com
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 914 UL Oil
      
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      
      Bob Robertson and all,
          I need the recommended  engine oil for a 914 UL.  Also need the
      recommended gear box oil.
      
      Thanks,
      Don Smythe
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Hirth (off topic) | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      
      To All 
          Don't laugh and curse at me for this....I have at least 5 brand new 55 HP 
      HIrth engines for sale at 1/2 price or better.  They are still in the box and 
      equipped with Bing carbs.  Is there any market out there for these.  Want 
      opinions but, be easy....
          These engines are out of warranty and go as is.
      
      Don Smythe
      N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
      
      John:
      
      I tried the Hot Prop on a Rans S12XL with 582 Rotax engine.  I think it was 
      a little quieter, but can't really say that I saw any significant 
      improvement in climb or cruise.  I certainly did not think it was worth the 
      price.
      
      Clem Nichols
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Hot Prop
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
      >
      >
      > Has any body tried the Hot Prop yet, I am thinking of pulling my NSI
      > and installing something else. Its too much work for my wife.
      >
      > John Oakely
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      > AlbertaIV@aol.com
      > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 914 UL Oil
      >
      >
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      >
      > Bob Robertson and all,
      >    I need the recommended  engine oil for a 914 UL.  Also need the
      > recommended gear box oil.
      >
      > Thanks,
      > Don Smythe
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Castrol TTS for two strock engines | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: icaza francisco <franicaza@yahoo.com.mx>
      
      A friend of mine had an engine feliure in his Quick
      Silver GT500 two weeks ago. He uses Castrol TTS (full
      syntetic) mixed 50:1. His engine is completely
      destroyed inside. 
      I use it also in a Rotax 582 in a Drifter I have. It
      worked great for five years, engine and plugs were
      always "clean". Eric Tucker at SkyStar told me it was
      a good choice. Well, Castrol people told him they
      changed the formula a lot, (besides that now the oil
      is red instead amber and it feels lighter). 
      
      Does anybody of you use Castrol TTS oil? Have you seen
      some changes? 
      
      Any way, be careful.
      
      
      Francisco Icaza
      Classic IV   
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hirth (off topic) | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      
      
      I'd throw one on ebay with a minimum price and see where it goes.  Might be
      pleasantly surprised.  Some folks like their Hirths.
      Darrel
      
      > To All
      >     Don't laugh and curse at me for this....I have at least 5 brand new 55
      HP
      > HIrth engines for sale at 1/2 price or better.  They are still in the box
      and
      > equipped with Bing carbs.  Is there any market out there for these.  Want
      > opinions but, be easy....
      >     These engines are out of warranty and go as is.
      >
      > Don Smythe
      > N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hirth (off topic) | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      
      In a message dated 10/5/04 5:27:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
      morid@northland.lib.mi.us writes:
      
      << 
       I'd throw one on ebay with a minimum price and see where it goes.  Might be
       pleasantly surprised.  Some folks like their Hirths.
       Darrel
        >>
      Good idea Darrel.  I'll look into that suggestion.  Sure you don't want a 
      couple for spares?
      
      
      Don Smythe
      Do Not Archive
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Cooper" <spdrflyr@earthlink.net>
      
      See www.trikite.com Mark Smith is your man Jimmie if your looking for the
      good stuff.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jimmie
      Blackwell
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Tygon Tubing
      
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
      
      I need to replace the Tygon tubing connections to my wing tanks.  Has anyone
      been able purchase it from an auto parts store.  If so which one.
      
      Thanks
      
      
      ---
      
      ---
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rotax 914 UL Oil | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
      
      Don,  Check the following link for the Rotax recommendations.  The gearbox
      oil is the same as the crank case oil. That is the reason Rotax recommends a
      gear additive  in their engine oils.
      http://www.rotax-owner.com/curdocs.htm
      
      Lowell
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 914 UL Oil
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      >
      > Bob Robertson and all,
      >     I need the recommended  engine oil for a 914 UL.  Also need the
      recommended gear box oil.
      >
      > Thanks,
      > Don Smythe
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Land Shorter <landshorter2@yahoo.com>
      
      I use the big 3 bladed 75" Kievprop (use to be Hot Prop) on my 912S and just LOVE
      it.  Extremely efficient, very quiet, gobs of climb, and very light.  
      
      Joa
      www.landshorter.com
      
      
      John Oakley <joakley@ida.net> wrote:
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" 
      
      
      Has any body tried the Hot Prop yet, I am thinking of pulling my NSI
      and installing something else. Its too much work for my wife.
      
      John Oakely
      
      
                      
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      vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hirth (off topic) | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
      
      What is half price......???  does anyone know what the redrive for the hirth
      cost.  Bob U.
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Hirth (off topic)
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
      >
      >
      > I'd throw one on ebay with a minimum price and see where it goes.  Might
      be
      > pleasantly surprised.  Some folks like their Hirths.
      > Darrel
      >
      > > To All
      > >     Don't laugh and curse at me for this....I have at least 5 brand new
      55
      > HP
      > > HIrth engines for sale at 1/2 price or better.  They are still in the
      box
      > and
      > > equipped with Bing carbs.  Is there any market out there for these.
      Want
      > > opinions but, be easy....
      > >     These engines are out of warranty and go as is.
      > >
      > > Don Smythe
      > > N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      > ---
      >
      >
      
      ---
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rotax 914 UL Oil | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jay Fabian" <experimental208nd@comcast.net>
      
      I use a four stroke oil from Yamaha. Yamalube.   20w-50 in the summer and I 
      forget which for the winter. it is a semi-synthetic , and it has a gear 
      additive built in. Its about $2.50 ish a QT. at a yamaha bike shop.
      Jay Fabian
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax 914 UL Oil
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
      >
      > Don,  Check the following link for the Rotax recommendations.  The gearbox
      > oil is the same as the crank case oil. That is the reason Rotax recommends 
      > a
      > gear additive  in their engine oils.
      > http://www.rotax-owner.com/curdocs.htm
      >
      > Lowell
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
      > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 914 UL Oil
      >
      >
      >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      >>
      >> Bob Robertson and all,
      >>     I need the recommended  engine oil for a 914 UL.  Also need the
      > recommended gear box oil.
      >>
      >> Thanks,
      >> Don Smythe
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hirth (off topic) | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Brian Peck <u2drvr@dslextreme.com>
      
      How about making a three engine kitfox?
      
      Cheers,
      
      BP
      do not archive
      
      On Oct 5, 2004, at 3:13 PM, AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      >
      > To All
      >     Don't laugh and curse at me for this....I have at least 5 brand  
      > new 55 HP
      > HIrth engines for sale at 1/2 price or better.  They are still in the  
      > box and
      > equipped with Bing carbs.  Is there any market out there for these.   
      > Want
      > opinions but, be easy....
      >     These engines are out of warranty and go as is.
      >
      > Don Smythe
      > N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
      >
      >
      > _- 
      > ======================================================================= 
      > _- 
      > ======================================================================= 
      > _- 
      > ======================================================================= 
      > _- 
      > ======================================================================= 
      > >
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hirth (off topic) | 
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RICHARD HUTSON" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
      
      Are they 2703 or 3202 model, electric or recoil start and what is the gear 
      ratio of the gear box.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Hirth (off topic)
      
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
      >
      > To All
      >    Don't laugh and curse at me for this....I have at least 5 brand new 55 
      > HP
      > HIrth engines for sale at 1/2 price or better.  They are still in the box 
      > and
      > equipped with Bing carbs.  Is there any market out there for these.  Want
      > opinions but, be easy....
      >    These engines are out of warranty and go as is.
      >
      > Don Smythe
      > N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
      
      I have dual differential brakes in a MKIV Classic. I need a little brake
      fluid. The stuff in the system is red in colour. I assume this is Aeroshell
      for synthetic rubber seals Mil-H-5606G or perhaps some equivalent. The
      problem is I live in Australia and am having big problems trying to get
      anything although I did find a supposed equivalent from Castrol but it was
      going to cost just over $40. I get told everyone just uses automatic
      transmission fluid. This worries me but maybe it's OK. I just don't know.
      Can anyone enlighten me on all this please.  Thanks, Rex.
      rexjan@bigpond.com
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Castrol TTS for two strock engines | 
       07:30:57,
              Serialize complete at 06/10/2004 07:30:57
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: r.thomas@za.pwc.com
      
      Hi Francisco
      
      I find oil choice is very much a personal decision (wars have been started 
      over a topic like this ;-)). Some will try to convince you to use their 
      choice of oil. My personal feeling is since I live on the East Coast of 
      South Africa, where humidity is often a problem I prefer to use a good 
      mineral oil with the least ash content. Yes, the downside is that you do 
      have more carbon build up and probably require more decokes.
      
      The bad side of the synthetic oils are that many of them are hygroscopic 
      (able to retain moisture) and as such would certainly promote corrosion 
      whilst not in use - especially at the coast. This can end up with bearings 
      etc getting chewed up - maybe something like this happened to your friend?
      
      The previous owner of the my Kitfox ran on synthetic, but he was on our 
      highveld which is a lot dryer than the coast. As soon as I am finished 
      with my current supply of synthetic, I will be changing over to a mineral 
      based oil which is not hygroscopic.
      
      An easy home test (borrowed from one of my fellow SA pilots) to test oil 
      for hygroscopic properties is to take a tablespoon of the oil and heat it 
      up in a frying pan (use an old one or mommy may get upset with you). Once 
      heated, add a small drop of water. Then allow to cool. If the oil and 
      water separate then the oil is not hygroscopic. As with many synthetics, 
      on cooling, you will not find that drop of water - it has 'dissolved' into 
      the oil. (Obviously do not boil the oil water mixture, as the water may 
      just evaporate and your experiment may not show the correct result.)
      
      Hope this helps
      Regards
      Roger
      
      
      icaza francisco <franicaza@yahoo.com.mx> 
      Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      06/10/2004 01:53 AM
      
      Please respond to
      kitfox-list@matronics.com
      
      
      To
      kitfox-list@matronics.com
      cc
      
      Subject
      Kitfox-List: Castrol TTS for two strock engines
      
      
       Size: 5 Kb 
      
      
      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: icaza francisco 
      <franicaza@yahoo.com.mx>
      
      A friend of mine had an engine feliure in his Quick
      Silver GT500 two weeks ago. He uses Castrol TTS (full
      syntetic) mixed 50:1. His engine is completely
      destroyed inside. 
      I use it also in a Rotax 582 in a Drifter I have. It
      worked great for five years, engine and plugs were
      always "clean". Eric Tucker at SkyStar told me it was
      a good choice. Well, Castrol people told him they
      changed the formula a lot, (besides that now the oil
      is red instead amber and it feels lighter). 
      
      Does anybody of you use Castrol TTS oil? Have you seen
      some changes? 
      
      Any way, be careful.
      
      
      Francisco Icaza
      Classic IV 
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      
      Rex,
      
      Do you know anyone in the military there?  They
      probably use 5606 in their aircraft and might have a
      few extra CC's for you.
      
      I bought mine from ACS, but I suppose that is not an
      easy answer for you down there.
      
      Kurt S.
      
      --- Rex & Jan Shaw <rexjan@bigpond.com> wrote:
      
      > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw"
      > <rexjan@bigpond.com>
      > 
      > I have dual differential brakes in a MKIV Classic. I
      > need a little brake
      > fluid. The stuff in the system is red in colour. I
      > assume this is Aeroshell
      > for synthetic rubber seals Mil-H-5606G or perhaps
      > some equivalent. The
      > problem is I live in Australia and am having big
      > problems trying to get
      > anything although I did find a supposed equivalent
      > from Castrol but it was
      > going to cost just over $40. I get told everyone
      > just uses automatic
      > transmission fluid. This worries me but maybe it's
      > OK. I just don't know.
      > Can anyone enlighten me on all this please.  Thanks,
      > Rex.
      > rexjan@bigpond.com
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Kitfox-List message posted by: FlyCyOZ@aol.com
      
      Rex  --  where are you in OZ????
      
      cy  --  in Newcastle
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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