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1. 12:44 AM - Re: FAA Regs (Joel Mapes)
2. 01:40 AM - Re: Ready to fly? (Michel Verheughe)
3. 04:14 AM - Re: Ready to fly? (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
4. 10:03 AM - [Off-topic] locations (Michel Verheughe)
5. 12:18 PM - Re: Tires for Model IV (KITFOXPILOT@att.net)
6. 01:03 PM - Desert Fox Squadron Fly-In (Michael Gibbs)
7. 02:09 PM - First Flight (Howard Firm)
8. 02:29 PM - Re: First Flight (STEPHEN ZAKRESKI)
9. 02:35 PM - Re: First Flight (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
10. 03:01 PM - Re: Tires for Model IV (Jerry Liles)
11. 03:48 PM - Re: First Flight (Fred Shiple)
12. 05:08 PM - windshield problems (Clem Nichols)
13. 05:15 PM - Re: Tires for Model IV (Lowell Fitt)
14. 07:48 PM - Re: windshield problems (Bruce Harrington)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Joel Mapes" <FoxFloatFlyer@hotmail.com>
Suggest you contact AOPA. They have a great airport volunteer support network.
Joel
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| Subject: | Re: Ready to fly? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Howard Firm wrote:
> The Turbo Tiger passed inspection yesterday and is ready to go!!!
Congratulations, Howard.
> Today the wind is 25, g30 with snow flurries, so it will not be flying
> today.
Good Lord! Snow in Virginia? Come over here, to up-north Norway ... it is only
raining! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Ready to fly? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 10/17/04 1:41:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
michel@online.no writes:
<< Good Lord! Snow in Virginia? Come over here, to up-north Norway ... it is
only
raining! :-)
Cheers,
Michel >>
Michel,
Howard lives in a town called Virginia. It's way up north in the cold
country (not the state of Virginia). His town is full of beautiful birds.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | [Off-topic] locations |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
AlbertaIV@aol.com wrote:
> Howard lives in a town called Virginia. It's way up north
Thanks, Don.
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXPILOT@att.net
-------------- Original message from "Jimmie Blackwell" : --------------
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
>
> Ray
>
> Do you have 6 or 8" wheels. I have 8" wheels and was not able to find any
> tires for my wheels in the Wicks catalog. What page did you find them on?
>
> Thanks
> Jimmie
You have to call Wicks, ask for Dave. The tire are special order, the catalog
does not have the size. Carlisle Turf Glide/18x8.5-8. Wicks said they should
fit the old rims.
Ray
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tires for Model IV
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> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXPILOT@att.net
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> > -------------- Original message from "Jimmie Blackwell" : --------------
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> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
> > >
> > > As a very low time tail wheel pilot I have a concern about the tires on
> my Model
> > > IV. My plane has the 8" wheels and Carlisle tubeless trailer tires size
> 16.50 x
> > > 6.50 x 8.00. My concern is that the Carlisle tires do not have the crown
> shape
> > > of aircraft tires. Is this a concern or am I just being overly cautious?
> Would
> > > appreciate any ideas on alternative tires for the 8 inch wheel that
> might help
> > > me tame this monster tail wheel flying machine.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > Jimmie
> > > HI jimmie,
> >
> > I also have a Model IV, and just purchased the same brand tires from Wicks
> Aircraft! Mime are the Turf Glide with a nice tread. They are simular to
> the aero trainer in design more of a flat surface. I think they will work
> just fine!
> >
> > Ray
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> > -------------- Original message from "Jimmie Blackwell"
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> > -- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
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> >
> > As a very low time tail wheel pilot I have a concern about the tires on
> my Model
> > IV. My plane has the 8" wheels and Carlisle tubeless trailer tires size
> 16.50 x
> > 6.50 x 8.00. My concern is that the Carlisle tires do not have the crown
> shape
> > of aircraft tires. Is this a concern or am I just being overly cautious?
> Would
> > appreciate any ideas on alternative tires for the 8 inch wheel that might
> help
> > me tame this monster tail wheel flying machine.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Jimmie
> > HI jimmie,
> >
> >
> > I also have a Model IV, and just purchased the same brand tires from Wicks
> Aircraft! Mime are the Turf Glide with a nice tread. They are simular to the
> aero trainer in design more of a flat surface. I think they will work just
> fine!
> >
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> > Ray
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-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <JABLACKWELL@EV1.NET>
Ray
Do you have 6 or 8" wheels. I have 8" wheels and was not able to find any
tires for my wheels in the Wicks catalog. What page did you find them on?
Thanks
Jimmie
You have to call Wicks, ask for Dave. The tire are special order, the catalog does
not have the size. Carlisle Turf Glide/18x8.5-8. Wicks said they should fit
the old rims.
Ray
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From: <KITFOXPILOT@ATT.NET>
To: <KITFOX-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tires for Model IV
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXPILOT@att.net
-------------- Original message from "Jimmie Blackwell" : --------------
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
As a very low time tail wheel pilot I have a concern about the tires on
my Model
IV. My plane has the 8" wheels and Carlisle tubeless trailer tires size
16.50 x
6.50 x 8.00. My concern is that the Carlisle tires do not have the crown
shape
of aircraft tires. Is this a concern or am I just being overly cautious?
Would
appreciate any ideas on alternative tires for the 8
inch wheel that
might help
me tame this monster tail wheel flying machine.
Thank you
Jimmie
HI jimmie,
I also have a Model IV, and just purchased the same brand tires from Wicks
Aircraft! Mime are the Turf Glide with a nice tread. They are simular to
the aero trainer in design more of a flat surface. I think they will work
just fine!
Ray
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-- Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
<JABLACKWELL@EV1.NET>
As a very low time tail wheel pilot I have a concern about the tires on
my Model
IV. My plane has the 8" wheels and Carlisle tubeless trailer tires size
16.50 x
6.50 x 8.00. My concern is that the Carlisle tires do not have the crown
shape
of aircraft tires. Is this a concern or am I just being overly cautious?
Would
appreciate any ideas on alternative tires for the 8 inch wheel that might
help
me tame this monster tail wheel flying machine.
Thank you
Jimmie
HI jimmie,
I also have a Model IV, and just purchased the same brand tires from Wicks
Aircraft! Mime are the Turf Glide with a nice tread. They are simular to the
aero trainer in design more of a flat surface. I think they will work just
fine!
Ray
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| Subject: | Desert Fox Squadron Fly-In |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
I had hoped to fly N728KF to the Desert Fox Squadron fly-in this year
and participate in the fox games (poker run, spot landing,
short-takeoff, etc.), but obviously that was not to be. Instead, I
made it there by ground transportation and had to sit in a
wheelchair, but I was still overwhelmed by the warm reception I was
met with.
Frank Miller and the crew from SkyStar stopped by, along with
Kitfoxes from all over the southwest United States. The food was
great and there were some absolutely beautiful airplanes there. I'll
leave a full report to someone who was able to be there for the
entire weekend, but suffice it to say that it was a proud moment when
I was sworn in, along with a half-dozen others, as an official member
of the squadron!
As far as I could tell, a good time was had by all!
Mike G.
N728KF
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
Was a little gusty, but right down the runway...Everything went well. I
wanted to do the first couple of landings on the grass, but that didn't work
out as it was 90 degree off to the wind. My pitot tube turned a bit sideways
on takeoff, so I didn't have any airspeed indications. I'm going to epoxy it
into place I think. I came in a little hot, but had plenty of runway to
float down and let her slow down. With a 15 knot headwind the groundspeed
was pretty slow. Felt good to be back in the saddle!!!!
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: STEPHEN ZAKRESKI <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Whooohaaa...congrats Howard!
SteveZ
Calgary
----- Original Message -----
From: Howard Firm <pianome2@mchsi.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: First Flight
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
>
> Was a little gusty, but right down the runway...Everything went
> well. I
> wanted to do the first couple of landings on the grass, but that
> didn't work
> out as it was 90 degree off to the wind. My pitot tube turned a
> bit sideways
> on takeoff, so I didn't have any airspeed indications. I'm going
> to epoxy it
> into place I think. I came in a little hot, but had plenty of
> runway to
> float down and let her slow down. With a 15 knot headwind the
> groundspeedwas pretty slow. Felt good to be back in the saddle!!!!
>
> Howard Firm
> 508 12th St. South
> Virginia MN 55792
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 10/17/04 2:10:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
pianome2@mchsi.com writes:
<< float down and let her slow down. With a 15 knot headwind the groundspeed
was pretty slow. Felt good to be back in the saddle!!!!
Howard Firm >>
Congratulations Howard, I'm sure glad I didn't come help you finish that
airplane. That was almost a year ago and I'd still be sitting in Mn. I hope all
the birds kept a safe distance.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
Just go to Google and type in turf glide tires. I suspect they'll be
less expensive from someone else, at least the 6" rim type were for my
Avid when I bought a new set. There are two types called Turf Glide;
one is for a 6" rim and has the typical rounded aircraft type profile
with the wavy tread, very nice. The other is for an 8" rim and is more
square in profile but is still a nice apparently suitable tire.
Jerry Liles
KITFOXPILOT@att.net wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXPILOT@att.net
>
>
>-------------- Original message from "Jimmie Blackwell" : --------------
>
>
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
>>
>>Ray
>>
>>Do you have 6 or 8" wheels. I have 8" wheels and was not able to find any
>>tires for my wheels in the Wicks catalog. What page did you find them on?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Jimmie
>>
>>
>
>You have to call Wicks, ask for Dave. The tire are special order, the catalog
does not have the size. Carlisle Turf Glide/18x8.5-8. Wicks said they should
fit the old rims.
>
>Ray
>
>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From:
>>To:
>>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tires for Model IV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: KITFOXPILOT@att.net
>>>
>>>
>>>-------------- Original message from "Jimmie Blackwell" : --------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
>>>>
>>>>As a very low time tail wheel pilot I have a concern about the tires on
>>>>
>>>>
>>my Model
>>
>>
>>>>IV. My plane has the 8" wheels and Carlisle tubeless trailer tires size
>>>>
>>>>
>>16.50 x
>>
>>
>>>>6.50 x 8.00. My concern is that the Carlisle tires do not have the crown
>>>>
>>>>
>>shape
>>
>>
>>>>of aircraft tires. Is this a concern or am I just being overly cautious?
>>>>
>>>>
>>Would
>>
>>
>>>>appreciate any ideas on alternative tires for the 8 inch wheel that
>>>>
>>>>
>>might help
>>
>>
>>>>me tame this monster tail wheel flying machine.
>>>>
>>>>Thank you
>>>>
>>>>Jimmie
>>>>HI jimmie,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I also have a Model IV, and just purchased the same brand tires from Wicks
>>>
>>>
>>Aircraft! Mime are the Turf Glide with a nice tread. They are simular to
>>the aero trainer in design more of a flat surface. I think they will work
>>just fine!
>>
>>
>>>Ray
>>>
>>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
Glad to see you're back in the air. Congratulations, Howard.
Fred
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| Subject: | windshield problems |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clem Nichols" <cnichols@scrtc.com>
Advice please:
I've recently noticed a "cracked" appearance in my windshield extending down and
forward from the uppermost and most forward attachment point to the frame.
This is present on both sides. It is not a single "crack", but instead many "cracks"
extending downward and forward. I've also found two or three places on
top of the windshield (above my head) where it looks like it was struck by a
hard object. (What would be called in the medical profession a stellate fracture
if it were on the skull) None of these areas can be felt on either the inside
or the outside of the windshield, but they are very apparent. I suspect
that these areas are the result of some of my less-than-perfect landings, ie
due to stress buildup, but I don't know for sure, and I've not had any really
bad experiences. I've never been one to be very concerned about appearances,
but I certainly don't relish the thought of the windshield breaking loose and
blowing into the cockpit, nor do I want to spend a lot of money unnecessarily.
Is this something I need to be alarmed about? I'd appreciate your opinions.
Many thanks.
Clem Nichols
Model IV 1200
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| Subject: | Re: Tires for Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Just a thought. I have been using the two ply tires since flying with the
exception of one stint in home ground ATV tires. The first two sets were
replaced after a BFR and a loan of the airplane to a friend that was being
checked out by the same CFI I used for my BFR.
I could never convince the CSI that the Model IV centerline didn't parallel
the cowl side. He was always landing in a crab and one maneuver he liked to
do was the one where you fly the runway alternating the right tire touching
and the left etc. Well, he was really good at finding the cord by scuffing
the robber right off the tires.
This is my thought based on a few hours of my own and mostly on paved
runways. These large two ply tires last a long time. I do carry some green
stuff to seal pinholes and a pump when flying to remote strips. The sealant
is in one tire but not the other. If you guys are finding that the tires
are not lasting and the cord shows prematurely in your opinion, I would
suggest first looking at the wheel alignment. This is a problem in cars
regarding tread wear and will happen in our airplanes as well. Then I
would consider the airplanes orientation when landing - make sure you are
not crabbing at the moment of touch down. My CFI friend could pretty much
ruin a tire in an hour if he flew the way he wanted to.
My last BFR I told him I didn't want to work on the close to the ground
stuff.
Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: windshield problems |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
Hi Clem,
Some recommend replacing the Lexan windshields every 2-3 years. Mine had
the "crazing" you mention, but it slowly accumulated over 8 years! Typical
areas that craze are the tight bend near the forward wing roots. That's
where mine was the worst. I alsao had a few crazed spots near the cowl
where fuel had gotten to the Lexan.
When you begin to worry, then replace it. Take the old one off and use it
as a template.
Cheers,
bh
ex-N19KF 582ed IV-1200, 800+ hrs
> Advice please:
>
> I've recently noticed a "cracked" appearance in my windshield extending
> down and forward from the uppermost and most forward attachment point to
> the frame. This is present on both sides. It is not a single "crack",
> but instead many "cracks" extending downward and forward. I've also found
> two or three places on top of the windshield (above my head) where it
> looks like it was struck by a hard object. (What would be called in the
> medical profession a stellate fracture if it were on the skull) None of
> these areas can be felt on either the inside or the outside of the
> windshield, but they are very apparent. I suspect that these areas are
> the result of some of my less-than-perfect landings, ie due to stress
> buildup, but I don't know for sure, and I've not had any really bad
> experiences. I've never been one to be very concerned about appearances,
> but I certainly don't relish the thought of the windshield breaking loose
> and blowing into the cockpit, nor do I want to spend a l!
> ot of money unnecessarily. Is this something I need to be alarmed about?
> I'd appreciate your opinions. Many thanks.
>
> Clem Nichols
> Model IV 1200
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