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1. 01:28 AM - Re: 582 heater core (BROSCHART)
2. 04:04 AM - Re: VG's and the testing process (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
3. 04:16 AM - Re: pennzoil (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
4. 05:29 AM - Re: 582 heater core (Gary Algate)
5. 05:31 AM - Re: Model 5 w 912 ULS heavy duty starter (Grant Fluent)
6. 05:32 AM - Re: Model 5 w 912 ULS heavy duty starter (Grant Fluent)
7. 05:34 AM - turtledecks ()
8. 05:35 AM - Re: Bahamas 2004 Trip (RICHARD RABBERS)
9. 05:49 AM - Re: Model 5 w 912 ULS heavy duty starter (Len Shorethose)
10. 06:46 AM - Re: Model 5 w 912 ULS heavy duty starter (jdmcbean)
11. 07:04 AM - Re: NSI Prop Failure - My final posting on this forum (kitfoxjunky)
12. 07:22 AM - horizontal incidence (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
13. 07:23 AM - Re: Re: windshield problems (DPREMGOOD@aol.com)
14. 07:24 AM - Pennzoil (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
15. 07:26 AM - Re: NSI Prop Failure - My final posting on this forum (shortnaked)
16. 07:29 AM - Re: 582 heater core (DPREMGOOD@aol.com)
17. 07:42 AM - Re: Re: windshield problems (Gary Algate)
18. 07:52 AM - Rotax 912 air filters and ignition system (Lyle Persels)
19. 08:00 AM - Re: NSI Prop Failure - My final posting on this forum (Lowell Fitt)
20. 08:03 AM - They just lost my businessRe: NSI Prop Failure - My (Harris, Robert)
21. 08:21 AM - Re: Re: windshield problems (shortnaked)
22. 08:28 AM - Re: Re: windshield problems (Rick)
23. 08:34 AM - Re: They just lost my businessRe: NSI Prop Failure - My f inal posting on this forum (shortnaked)
24. 08:40 AM - Re: NSI Prop Failure (Michel Verheughe)
25. 09:19 AM - Re: Re: windshield problems (kurt schrader)
26. 09:20 AM - Re: Rotax 912 air filters and ignition system (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
27. 09:31 AM - Re: They just lost my businessRe: NSI Prop Failure - My f inal posting on this forum (Larry Huntley)
28. 09:52 AM - Re: They just lost my businessRe: NSI Prop Failure - My f inal posting on this forum (Clifford Begnaud)
29. 10:03 AM - 912 pin in oil Pump (Harris, Robert)
30. 10:09 AM - Re: They just lost my businessRe: NSI Prop Failure - My f inal posting on this forum (Larry Huntley)
31. 10:13 AM - Re: They just lost my . . . . (kurt schrader)
32. 10:46 AM - Prop failure (Fox5flyer)
33. 11:10 AM - Re: Re: They just lost my . . . . (Fox5flyer)
34. 11:56 AM - Re: Prop failure (John Oakley)
35. 12:01 PM - Re: 912 pin in oil Pump (Ted Palamarek)
36. 12:13 PM - Re: 912 pin in oil Pump (Ted Palamarek)
37. 12:27 PM - Re: 912 pin in oil Pump (Harris, Robert)
38. 01:11 PM - Re: 912 pin in oil Pump (Steve Magdic)
39. 01:11 PM - Flight time exceeds build time - The Cure (Jim Corner)
40. 01:17 PM - Re: Bahamas 2004 Trip (John King)
41. 02:05 PM - Re: turtledecks (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
42. 02:06 PM - Re: Rotax 912 air filters and ignition system (John King)
43. 02:36 PM - Re: Model 5 w 912 ULS heavy duty starter (John King)
44. 03:20 PM - Re: turtledecks (jdmcbean)
45. 03:24 PM - Hirth (off topic) (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
46. 05:05 PM - Re: They just lost my businessRe: NSI Prop Failure - My f inal posting on this forum (Lowell Fitt)
47. 05:19 PM - 912 engine service pack (Fox5flyer)
48. 05:20 PM - Was: They just lost my business - now Rotax Info (Bruce Harrington)
49. 05:45 PM - Re: pennzoil (Jeffrey Puls)
50. 05:50 PM - Re: pennzoil (Jeffrey Puls)
51. 05:58 PM - Re: They just lost my businessRe: NSI Prop Failure - My f inal posting on this forum (Larry Huntley)
52. 06:11 PM - Unhappy with Westberg (Jimmie Blackwell)
53. 09:12 PM - Re: 912 pin in oil Pump (Ted Palamarek)
54. 10:32 PM - Re: Unhappy with Westberg (Allan Aaron)
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| Subject: | Re: 582 heater core |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: BROSCHART <cfbflyer@localnet.com>
i have the SS heater and recommend using a hot air heater with a muffler
shroud to get the hot air
the SS heater just isn't large enough
Have a good day - Charlie
Gill Levesque wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Ineed to add a heater to my fox!! Question is , how big is the skystar provided(EARLS?)
heater core? Would a similar sized core work? Would a small trnsmission
cooler core work! Transmission core has small (3/8") inlet and outlet!
Would the flow be sufficient?? Any ideas!!!
>
> Gil Levesque
> C-I -FREEZE
> P.S.
> Do any of you northern 582 ers, change main jets in the winter??(Denser air??)
>
>
> Still alive and flyin!!!!
>
> Gil
>
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| Subject: | Re: VG's and the testing process |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 10/21/04 9:44:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com writes:
<< draggy with that cupped area under them and behind the
rear spar. Swirling air behind the spar might make
them flap and they have some lift on top anyway. I
might eventually get to enclose those "bat wing" areas
in alum to match the wing root behind the spar. Has
anyone done this already?
Kurt S. S-5/NSI tirbo
>>
Kurt,
I fabricated my own turtle deck from fiberglass. Used the same stuff I'm
using for the belly cowl (Greenhouse sheet). I built it a bit more
streamlined and completely streamlined the bat wings top and bottom. Look great
and
has never rattled.
That greenhouse fiberglass sheet is the best stuff in the world for
fabricating. Very light. It won't hold up to airspeed by itself so I build in
fiberglass stiffeners as needed once the shape is good.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 10/21/04 4:02:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
pulsair@mindspring.com writes:
<< I can get the Pennzoil Marine Stabilizer for the fuel. Lockwood charges
about $3 a pint. Do you think CarQuest would order it? Thanks, Jeff 912UL >>
Go to "oil-store.com" for many aviation oils. They also carry a lot of
Pennzoil products. I recommended this to a hanger mate the other day. He came
back a couple days later with his box from "oil-store". They ship very fast
and he stated that he saved about a dollar per quart with the shipping cost.
I've used them several times and they are great. Oil shows up on your door
step by UPS almost as fast as you get off the order "send" key.
Don't forget the "-" between oil and store. "in oil-store.com". I just
glanced at the site under marine. They have some sort of Pennzoil stabilizer
listed.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Gil
I go up one size mid-winter
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Model 5 w 912 ULS heavy duty starter |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Joel,
Is it just the mounting lugs on the back of the
starter that hit your engine mount? I had a similar
problem with my Classic IV. The Rotax service center
told me to saw off the lugs. They said the older
starters didn't have them and they really didn't need
to be there. After doing that, I had to modify the
firewall but it did fit.
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
--- Joel Mapes <FoxFloatFlyer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Joel Mapes"
> <FoxFloatFlyer@hotmail.com>
>
> HELP!
> I'm switching to a 912ULS from the proposed 912A for
> my Model 5 as the additional 20 horsepower wil make
> float use feasible. When trying to install the
> 912ULS I found that the heavy duty starter is longer
> then the standard starter and hits the motor mount,
> making mounting the engine impossible. My options
> appear to be 1) replace the HD starter with a
> standard starter or 2) remove the motor mount and
> have the starboard side tube cut and re-welded to
> allow clearance. Suggestions, opionions and
> supportive chuckles are solicited.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Model 5 w 912 ULS heavy duty starter |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Joel,
Is it just the mounting lugs on the back of the
starter that hit your engine mount? I had a similar
problem with my Classic IV. The Rotax service center
told me to saw off the lugs. They said the older
starters didn't have them and they really didn't need
to be there. After doing that, I had to modify the
firewall but it did fit.
Grant Fluent
Newcastle, NE
Classic IV 912S
--- Joel Mapes <FoxFloatFlyer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Joel Mapes"
> <FoxFloatFlyer@hotmail.com>
>
> HELP!
> I'm switching to a 912ULS from the proposed 912A for
> my Model 5 as the additional 20 horsepower wil make
> float use feasible. When trying to install the
> 912ULS I found that the heavy duty starter is longer
> then the standard starter and hits the motor mount,
> making mounting the engine impossible. My options
> appear to be 1) replace the HD starter with a
> standard starter or 2) remove the motor mount and
> have the starboard side tube cut and re-welded to
> allow clearance. Suggestions, opionions and
> supportive chuckles are solicited.
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/chat
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <av8rps@tznet.com>
On the subject of turtledecks; My current metal turtledeck with the LP Aero
bubble glass seems god awful heavy. Anyone have weights on different
versions like Don's fibreglass one, or maybe the lexan ones offered by Blue
Sky? Or is metal still the lightest way to go?
Paul S
Wisconsin
----- Original Message -----
From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: VG's and the testing process
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 10/21/04 9:44:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com writes:
>
> << draggy with that cupped area under them and behind the
> rear spar. Swirling air behind the spar might make
> them flap and they have some lift on top anyway. I
> might eventually get to enclose those "bat wing" areas
> in alum to match the wing root behind the spar. Has
> anyone done this already?
>
> Kurt S. S-5/NSI tirbo
> >>
>
> Kurt,
> I fabricated my own turtle deck from fiberglass. Used the same stuff
> I'm
> using for the belly cowl (Greenhouse sheet). I built it a bit more
> streamlined and completely streamlined the bat wings top and bottom. Look
> great and
> has never rattled.
> That greenhouse fiberglass sheet is the best stuff in the world for
> fabricating. Very light. It won't hold up to airspeed by itself so I
> build in
> fiberglass stiffeners as needed once the shape is good.
>
> Don Smythe
> N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Bahamas 2004 Trip |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RICHARD RABBERS <rira1950@yahoo.com>
Thanks for the very good news. I'm sure things have changed on the US entry side.
I flew almost daily round trips back in 1999 our of south florida. Returns were
generally a breeze.
Do you happen to know about Canada?
Thanks,
Richard
John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King
Richard,
Not too long ago (over a year) Experimental aircraft had to get special permission
to enter the Bahamas. You had to submit lots of paper work for their approval.
Now all that has changed. Just follow some simple rules and stay out of trouble.
They basically want you to make it easy for you to spend your money there,
so they relaxed the restriction. Ultralights are another matter. Getting
back in the USA is more trouble than getting into the Bahamas.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
RICHARD RABBERS wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RICHARD RABBERS
>
>Hello,
>I've spent alot of time sailing, flying and diving in the Bahamas. I hope to get
back at some point. I'm a new (3rd) ownwer of a Kitfox Model 1 on lotus floats.
>- my question is in regard to experimental / cross border. I'd gotten the understanding
(hopefully incorrect) that there is some sort of restriction for experiemental.
I haven't read much, just picked this up. I love the amazing colors
of the bahama banks and dream of my return.
>
>Thanks,
>Richard
>BentonHarborMI
>
>John King wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King
>
>On October 31st, weather permitting, I will be departing for the Bahama
>Islands, as well as the Turks and Caicos Islands with three other
>aircraft for two weeks of island hopping. All of the aircraft will
>gather at Ft. Pierce, Florida and depart for the Bahamas the next day.
>Don Pearsell has setup a web site to describe the trip. It lists our
>itinerary in general terms, who the pilots are, what aircraft they are
>flying, where they are from, as well as information about the islands
>themselves and what we need to prepare for the trip. If at all possible
>I will attempt to keep the Don updated on our whereabouts and what is
>happening as much as possible. Cell phones do not always work in most
>of the Bahamas, so we may be out of toutch for a while. He will publish
>that data on the web site as he receives it. The web site is the same
>one Don has setup to include our other trips.
>.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Model 5 w 912 ULS heavy duty starter |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Len Shorethose" <TooLowTerrain@comcast.net>
Joel,
I have a Series 5 with a 912S and I had the exact same problem you are
having. Filing down the lugs did not give me enough clearance to mount the
new starter. I ended up having to remove the mount and cut and re-weld the
tube in question. Now it fits OK. But I hope I never have to replace the
starter again for I will have to remove the engine in order to do it!!!
It's a pretty tight fit.
I would recommend doing this instead of leaving the old starter in there.
There's a world of difference between starters. I would also strongly
recommend that you have the slipper clutch installed if you haven't done so
already. The startup and shutdown differences are huge. No more violent
shaking!!
Len Shorethose
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Fluent" <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Model 5 w 912 ULS heavy duty starter
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Grant Fluent <gjfpilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Joel,
> Is it just the mounting lugs on the back of the
> starter that hit your engine mount? I had a similar
> problem with my Classic IV. The Rotax service center
> told me to saw off the lugs. They said the older
> starters didn't have them and they really didn't need
> to be there. After doing that, I had to modify the
> firewall but it did fit.
> Grant Fluent
> Newcastle, NE
> Classic IV 912S
>
>
> --- Joel Mapes <FoxFloatFlyer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Joel Mapes"
>> <FoxFloatFlyer@hotmail.com>
>>
>> HELP!
>> I'm switching to a 912ULS from the proposed 912A for
>> my Model 5 as the additional 20 horsepower wil make
>> float use feasible. When trying to install the
>> 912ULS I found that the heavy duty starter is longer
>> then the standard starter and hits the motor mount,
>> making mounting the engine impossible. My options
>> appear to be 1) replace the HD starter with a
>> standard starter or 2) remove the motor mount and
>> have the starboard side tube cut and re-welded to
>> allow clearance. Suggestions, opionions and
>> supportive chuckles are solicited.
>>
>>
>>
>> Contributions
>> any other
>> Forums.
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/chat
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
>> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm
>> http://www.matronics.com/archives
>> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
>> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
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>
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| Subject: | Model 5 w 912 ULS heavy duty starter |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Joel,
Smooth cowl.. cut the lugs off and you may need to relieve the firewall
a
little. It's been done a few times. Round cowl... I don't think it would
work.. I would go with the old starter. Been using the old starter now for
over 200 hours on the 912 S.
Blue Skies
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Joel Mapes
Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 5 w 912 ULS heavy duty starter
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Joel Mapes" <FoxFloatFlyer@hotmail.com>
HELP!
I'm switching to a 912ULS from the proposed 912A for my Model 5 as the
additional 20 horsepower wil make float use feasible. When trying to install
the 912ULS I found that the heavy duty starter is longer then the standard
starter and hits the motor mount, making mounting the engine impossible. My
options appear to be 1) replace the HD starter with a standard starter or 2)
remove the motor mount and have the starboard side tube cut and re-welded to
allow clearance. Suggestions, opionions and supportive chuckles are
solicited.
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My final posting on this forum |
10:03:18 AM,
Serialize complete at 10/22/2004 10:03:18 AM
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Hi Kurt
In response to your question about the version of the cuff....I was told
by NSI the only way to determine the version of the cuff was to return the
prop to them. After I did that, they have stopped responding to emails,
faxes or phone messages. The only method I have used over the past three
months that is successful is to reach Lance via phone directly, and that
takes a lot of persistence. I suggest you try calling Lance directly, and
hope he is taking calls.
Sorry guys. I know a technical forum is no place for these kinds of
comments. My plane is trashed and my daughter and myself came pretty
close to being injured or killed. This incident was avoidable. I am
very upset, but I do not want to get kicked off this forum.
From now on, if anyone wants to talk to me about this incident, please
contact me OFF LIST.
Gary Walsh
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
10/20/2004 11:29 PM
Please respond to kitfox-list
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
cc:
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Electric Prop Failure - October
Update
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Gary,
We appreciate your keeping us up to date on this. Is
there a good way to determine if we have the old or
new prop flanges? I would like to inspect mine, if
possible for them. Widh I knew about this before I
rebuilt it last Spring.
Kurt S. S-5 w/NSI-soob & CAP prop
--- kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com> wrote:
> In mid August I put a posting on this forum
> regarding an incident where a blade departed in
> flight from my NSI CAP 140 electric prop.
> ............
> Gary Walsh
> C-GOOT
> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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| Subject: | horizontal incidence |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
thinking about the tread on horizontal stabilizer incidence in the shower (my second
best thinking spot) and recalled the process we went through on N105KF.
Early testing was completed with the middle mounting but found that the flaperon
setting at cruise speeds was about 11 degrees. When we raised the horizontal
to the top mounting hole the flaperons were pretty much in trail position after
setting them in cruise of +/- 90 nmh.
As an aside, we noticed that a little more rudder was required in turns because
the tail was less inclined to "carve around".
John Kerr
912ul, Classic IV, 700+ hours.
thinking about the tread on horizontal stabilizer incidence in the shower (my second
best thinking spot) and recalled the process we went through on N105KF.
Early testing was completed with the middle mounting but found that the flaperon
setting at cruise speeds was about 11 degrees. When we raised the horizontal
to the top mounting hole the flaperons were pretty much in trail position after
setting them in cruise of +/- 90 nmh.
As an aside, we noticed that a little more rudder was required in turns because
the tail was less inclined to "carve around".
John Kerr
912ul, Classic IV, 700+ hours.
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| Subject: | Re: windshield problems |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: DPREMGOOD@aol.com
Gary, did you have the 0.090 windshield installed prior to replacing with the
1/8th?
Doug Remoundos
Classic IV
Montreal
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
oil-store does have the motorcycle oil. $21/case, $15 shipping.
oil-store does have the motorcycle oil. $21/case, $15 shipping.
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My final posting on this forum |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
Gary -- Point well understood.
NSI has a problem and they should be more responsive to this condition.
Your great piloting skills is what helped save you and your daughter. The
company who is selling products that " APPEAR " to have a Problem should
come out and let the world know (their customers who put their money and
faith into them ) what is going to be done to check if other props are
faulty and how THEY will help to RECTIFY the situation.
NSI will score no points for handling this incident lightly.
Shorty <--------- ALways on patrol
----- Original Message -----
From: "kitfoxjunky" <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My final posting on this forum
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
<kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>
> Hi Kurt
>
> In response to your question about the version of the cuff....I was told
> by NSI the only way to determine the version of the cuff was to return the
> prop to them. After I did that, they have stopped responding to emails,
> faxes or phone messages. The only method I have used over the past three
> months that is successful is to reach Lance via phone directly, and that
> takes a lot of persistence. I suggest you try calling Lance directly, and
> hope he is taking calls.
>
> Sorry guys. I know a technical forum is no place for these kinds of
> comments. My plane is trashed and my daughter and myself came pretty
> close to being injured or killed. This incident was avoidable. I am
> very upset, but I do not want to get kicked off this forum.
>
> From now on, if anyone wants to talk to me about this incident, please
> contact me OFF LIST.
>
> Gary Walsh
> C-GOOT
> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
>
> kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> 10/20/2004 11:29 PM
> Please respond to kitfox-list
>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> cc:
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Electric Prop Failure - October
> Update
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> Gary,
>
> We appreciate your keeping us up to date on this. Is
> there a good way to determine if we have the old or
> new prop flanges? I would like to inspect mine, if
> possible for them. Widh I knew about this before I
> rebuilt it last Spring.
>
> Kurt S. S-5 w/NSI-soob & CAP prop
>
> --- kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com> wrote:
>
> > In mid August I put a posting on this forum
> > regarding an incident where a blade departed in
> > flight from my NSI CAP 140 electric prop.
> > ............
> > Gary Walsh
> > C-GOOT
> > www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 582 heater core |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: DPREMGOOD@aol.com
Gill,
Try Princess Auto Parts.
My buddy's J6 Karatoo has one and it works great.
Doug Remoundos
Classic IV
Montreal
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| Subject: | windshield problems |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Doug
I'm not sure if this was directed at me - but I always had the 1/8" Lexan as
this was supplied with my kit from Skystar.
I quite often get across to Montreal and would like to look you up at some
stage. Likewise if you are ever in the Barrie, Ont area.
Best regards
Gary Algate
Cell 705 716 0710
Lite2/582
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Gary, did you have the 0.090 windshield installed prior to replacing with
the
1/8th?
Doug Remoundos
Classic IV
Montreal
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| Subject: | Rotax 912 air filters and ignition system |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lyle Persels <lpers@mchsi.com>
My Kitfox IV (1994 kit) is powered by a standard Rotax 912UL with
standard Bing constant depression carburetors. Long ago I replaced the
single air filter with two filters mounted directly on the individual
carburetor intake throats. I need to replace them. The stamped number on
the K & N filter I've been using is F019134, but I don't find any such
filter listed in the catalogs. And I can't seem to find any filters
listed with exactly the same dimensions as the ones I'm replacing. The
limiting dimension is the length of 2 1/2 inches. A longer one won't
clear the firewall. Can you 912 users tell me what air filter you find
most satisfactory for this application?
My second question relates to ignition wiring. I know that several
Kitfoxers have replaced at least part of the 912 ignition wiring. Have
you used the same connectors and terminals, replaced them with the same
part numbers (distressingly expensive), or replaced them with parts from
Amp or another U.S. manufacturer? Finally, Should my 10-year old spark
plug wires, sheaths, and supressed spark plug connectors be replaced?
Lyle Persels
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My final posting on this forum |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "kitfoxjunky" <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My final posting on this forum
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
<kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>
> Hi Kurt
>
> In response to your question about the version of the cuff....I was told
> by NSI the only way to determine the version of the cuff was to return the
> prop to them.
<snip>
I have trouble believing this - not you Gary, but NSI's response. Isn't
there a serial number on the prop? Shouldn't NSI have a record of the
serial numbers of the different versions of their products?
Lowell
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f inal posting on this forum
| Subject: | just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My |
f inal posting on this forum
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
I was going to buy a KitFox that has a NSI motor but will stick to one that
has a Rotax after hearing how they handled this situation.
Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shortnaked
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My final posting on this forum
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
Gary -- Point well understood.
NSI has a problem and they should be more responsive to this condition.
Your great piloting skills is what helped save you and your daughter. The
company who is selling products that " APPEAR " to have a Problem should
come out and let the world know (their customers who put their money and
faith into them ) what is going to be done to check if other props are
faulty and how THEY will help to RECTIFY the situation.
NSI will score no points for handling this incident lightly.
Shorty <--------- ALways on patrol
----- Original Message -----
From: "kitfoxjunky" <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My final posting on this forum
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
<kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>
> Hi Kurt
>
> In response to your question about the version of the cuff....I was told
> by NSI the only way to determine the version of the cuff was to return the
> prop to them. After I did that, they have stopped responding to emails,
> faxes or phone messages. The only method I have used over the past three
> months that is successful is to reach Lance via phone directly, and that
> takes a lot of persistence. I suggest you try calling Lance directly, and
> hope he is taking calls.
>
> Sorry guys. I know a technical forum is no place for these kinds of
> comments. My plane is trashed and my daughter and myself came pretty
> close to being injured or killed. This incident was avoidable. I am
> very upset, but I do not want to get kicked off this forum.
>
> From now on, if anyone wants to talk to me about this incident, please
> contact me OFF LIST.
>
> Gary Walsh
> C-GOOT
> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
>
> kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> 10/20/2004 11:29 PM
> Please respond to kitfox-list
>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> cc:
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Electric Prop Failure - October
> Update
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> Gary,
>
> We appreciate your keeping us up to date on this. Is
> there a good way to determine if we have the old or
> new prop flanges? I would like to inspect mine, if
> possible for them. Widh I knew about this before I
> rebuilt it last Spring.
>
> Kurt S. S-5 w/NSI-soob & CAP prop
>
> --- kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com> wrote:
>
> > In mid August I put a posting on this forum
> > regarding an incident where a blade departed in
> > flight from my NSI CAP 140 electric prop.
> > ............
> > Gary Walsh
> > C-GOOT
> > www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
>
> _______________________________
> Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today!
> http://vote.yahoo.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: windshield problems |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
u can use 2 mm LEXAN ( 3/32 ) with no problem plus alo easier to
work with. drills easy --someone wrote it not --get a sharp drill my man
:)
Shorty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Subject: RE: RE: Kitfox-List: windshield problems
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
>
> Doug
>
> I'm not sure if this was directed at me - but I always had the 1/8" Lexan
as
> this was supplied with my kit from Skystar.
>
> I quite often get across to Montreal and would like to look you up at some
> stage. Likewise if you are ever in the Barrie, Ont area.
>
> Best regards
>
> Gary Algate
> Cell 705 716 0710
> Lite2/582
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Gary, did you have the 0.090 windshield installed prior to replacing with
> the
> 1/8th?
>
> Doug Remoundos
> Classic IV
> Montreal
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
>
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| Subject: | windshield problems |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
Depending on the year it may be infact butilrite which is neithr lexax or
plexiglass. If the optics are bad then it is the butilrite. Not sure of the
spelling.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gary Algate
Subject: RE: RE: Kitfox-List: windshield problems
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Algate" <algate@attglobal.net>
Doug
I'm not sure if this was directed at me - but I always had the 1/8" Lexan as
this was supplied with my kit from Skystar.
I quite often get across to Montreal and would like to look you up at some
stage. Likewise if you are ever in the Barrie, Ont area.
Best regards
Gary Algate
Cell 705 716 0710
Lite2/582
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Gary, did you have the 0.090 windshield installed prior to replacing with
the
1/8th?
Doug Remoundos
Classic IV
Montreal
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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| Subject: | Re: They just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My f |
inal posting on this forum
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
Robert --- you are right this will cost NSI dearly if they not respond to
Gary's Problems...
It is Bad Business to have a problem and not tend to it .
NSI u playin with fire here clear it up or expect more negativity.
And Current NSI Owners please tell NSI what they h ave done for your RESALE
VALUE
Shorty <-- just gettign fired up :)
They got defective product as it seems
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Subject: They just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My f
inal posting on this forum
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
<Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
>
> I was going to buy a KitFox that has a NSI motor but will stick to one
that
> has a Rotax after hearing how they handled this situation.
>
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shortnaked
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My final posting on this forum
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
>
> Gary -- Point well understood.
>
> NSI has a problem and they should be more responsive to this condition.
> Your great piloting skills is what helped save you and your daughter.
The
> company who is selling products that " APPEAR " to have a Problem should
> come out and let the world know (their customers who put their money and
> faith into them ) what is going to be done to check if other props are
> faulty and how THEY will help to RECTIFY the situation.
>
> NSI will score no points for handling this incident lightly.
>
> Shorty <--------- ALways on patrol
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kitfoxjunky" <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My final posting on this forum
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
> <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
> >
> > Hi Kurt
> >
> > In response to your question about the version of the cuff....I was told
> > by NSI the only way to determine the version of the cuff was to return
the
> > prop to them. After I did that, they have stopped responding to emails,
> > faxes or phone messages. The only method I have used over the past three
> > months that is successful is to reach Lance via phone directly, and that
> > takes a lot of persistence. I suggest you try calling Lance directly,
and
> > hope he is taking calls.
> >
> > Sorry guys. I know a technical forum is no place for these kinds of
> > comments. My plane is trashed and my daughter and myself came pretty
> > close to being injured or killed. This incident was avoidable. I am
> > very upset, but I do not want to get kicked off this forum.
> >
> > From now on, if anyone wants to talk to me about this incident, please
> > contact me OFF LIST.
> >
> > Gary Walsh
> > C-GOOT
> > www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
> >
> >
> > kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> > Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > 10/20/2004 11:29 PM
> > Please respond to kitfox-list
> >
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > cc:
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Electric Prop Failure - October
> > Update
> >
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > We appreciate your keeping us up to date on this. Is
> > there a good way to determine if we have the old or
> > new prop flanges? I would like to inspect mine, if
> > possible for them. Widh I knew about this before I
> > rebuilt it last Spring.
> >
> > Kurt S. S-5 w/NSI-soob & CAP prop
> >
> > --- kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In mid August I put a posting on this forum
> > > regarding an incident where a blade departed in
> > > flight from my NSI CAP 140 electric prop.
> > > ............
> > > Gary Walsh
> > > C-GOOT
> > > www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
> >
> >
> > _______________________________
> > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today!
> > http://vote.yahoo.com
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
shortnaked wrote:
> NSI will score no points for handling this incident lightly.
My humble opinion on the matter:
My annual inspection form requires me to prove that I am updated with the
service bulletins of both aircraft and engine manufacturers. In that field, I
write, very arrogantly: "I am on the list!" meaning ... this one.
Guys, this list is the best place for us to make sure we fly safely. And I'd
like to thank again all of you who have helped me to feel more confident in
that strange thing I started one and half year ago: flying a Kitfox.
Some manufacturers think about their reputation. Others think about their
wallet. It always surprises me to see how they think they can get away with it.
Maybe NSI should use the four C's of the guy who finds himself, unexpectedly,
in IFR conditions: Climb, Communicate, Confess and Comply. ... on second
thoughts, forget the first C but they surely failed the second, third and
fourth! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | windshield problems |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Rick,
That may explain it. My SS door "glass", which I
thought was lexan, was so poor that I changed to
acrylic so I could see without getting airsick.
But my new door glass has multiple cracks because I
drilled them in the cold. Even with the right bits
and drill press, they cracked very easily while
drilling. If I can find some quality acrylic, I'll do
the next ones warm, or use lexan.
Kurt S.
--- Rick <turboflyer@comcast.net> wrote:
> Depending on the year it may be infact butilrite
> which is neither lexax or plexiglass. If the optics
> are bad then it is the butilrite. Not sure of the
> spelling.
>
> Rick
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 air filters and ignition system |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
leaf and airwolf both have 6" round w/offset that works well. not cheap but effective.
Realized about 300 rpm increase over the single 4" tapered.
John Kerr
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lyle Persels
>
> My Kitfox IV (1994 kit) is powered by a standard Rotax 912UL with
> standard Bing constant depression carburetors. Long ago I replaced the
> single air filter with two filters mounted directly on the individual
> carburetor intake throats. I need to replace them. The stamped number on
> the K & N filter I've been using is F019134, but I don't find any such
> filter listed in the catalogs. And I can't seem to find any filters
> listed with exactly the same dimensions as the ones I'm replacing. The
> limiting dimension is the length of 2 1/2 inches. A longer one won't
> clear the firewall. Can you 912 users tell me what air filter you find
> most satisfactory for this application?
>
> My second question relates to ignition wiring. I know that several
> Kitfoxers have replaced at least part of the 912 ignition wiring. Have
> you used the same connectors and terminals, replaced them with the same
> part numbers (distressingly expensive), or replaced them with parts from
> Amp or another U.S. manufacturer? Finally, Should my 10-year old spark
> plug wires, sheaths, and supressed spark plug connectors be replaced?
>
> Lyle Persels
>
>
>
>
>
>
leaf and airwolf both have 6" round w/offset that works well. not cheap but effective.
Realized about 300 rpm increase over the single 4" tapered.
John Kerr
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Kitfox-List message posted by: Lyle Persels <LPERS@MCHSI.COM>
My Kitfox IV (1994 kit) is powered by a standard Rotax 912UL with
standard Bing constant depression carburetors. Long ago I replaced the
single air filter with two filters mounted directly on the individual
carburetor intake throats. I need to replace them. The stamped number on
the K N filter I've been using is F019134, but I don't find any such
filter listed in the catalogs. And I can't seem to find any filters
listed with exactly the same dimensions as the ones I'm replacing. The
limiting dimension is the length of 2 1/2 inches. A longer one won't
clear the firewall. Can you 912 users tell me what air filter you find
most satisfactory for this application? <
BR>
My second question relates to ignition wiring. I know that several
Kitfoxers have replaced at least part of the 912 ignition wiring. Have
you used the same connectors and terminals, replaced them with the same
part numbers (distressingly expensive), or replaced them with parts from
Amp or another U.S. manufacturer? Finally, Should my 10-year old spark
plug wires, sheaths, and supressed spark plug connectors be replaced?
Lyle Persels
_
-= ALL NEW LIST CHAT!! http://www.matronics.com/chat
m/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: They just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My f |
inal posting on this forum
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
Interesting. I had a friend lose a 912 because of a pin(I think) shearing
in the oil pump. He wrecked his Kitfox trying to land on rough ground. I
don't think he was injured. He called Rotax and was told that they had
problems w/ that. They had not made public that info either. Don't know how
he made out ,but he sure wasn't happy. Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Subject: They just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My f
inal posting on this forum
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
<Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
>
> I was going to buy a KitFox that has a NSI motor but will stick to one
that
> has a Rotax after hearing how they handled this situation.
>
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shortnaked
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My final posting on this forum
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
>
> Gary -- Point well understood.
>
> NSI has a problem and they should be more responsive to this condition.
> Your great piloting skills is what helped save you and your daughter.
The
> company who is selling products that " APPEAR " to have a Problem should
> come out and let the world know (their customers who put their money and
> faith into them ) what is going to be done to check if other props are
> faulty and how THEY will help to RECTIFY the situation.
>
> NSI will score no points for handling this incident lightly.
>
> Shorty <--------- ALways on patrol
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kitfoxjunky" <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My final posting on this forum
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
> <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
> >
> > Hi Kurt
> >
> > In response to your question about the version of the cuff....I was told
> > by NSI the only way to determine the version of the cuff was to return
the
> > prop to them. After I did that, they have stopped responding to emails,
> > faxes or phone messages. The only method I have used over the past three
> > months that is successful is to reach Lance via phone directly, and that
> > takes a lot of persistence. I suggest you try calling Lance directly,
and
> > hope he is taking calls.
> >
> > Sorry guys. I know a technical forum is no place for these kinds of
> > comments. My plane is trashed and my daughter and myself came pretty
> > close to being injured or killed. This incident was avoidable. I am
> > very upset, but I do not want to get kicked off this forum.
> >
> > From now on, if anyone wants to talk to me about this incident, please
> > contact me OFF LIST.
> >
> > Gary Walsh
> > C-GOOT
> > www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
> >
> >
> > kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> > Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > 10/20/2004 11:29 PM
> > Please respond to kitfox-list
> >
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > cc:
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Electric Prop Failure - October
> > Update
> >
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > We appreciate your keeping us up to date on this. Is
> > there a good way to determine if we have the old or
> > new prop flanges? I would like to inspect mine, if
> > possible for them. Widh I knew about this before I
> > rebuilt it last Spring.
> >
> > Kurt S. S-5 w/NSI-soob & CAP prop
> >
> > --- kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In mid August I put a posting on this forum
> > > regarding an incident where a blade departed in
> > > flight from my NSI CAP 140 electric prop.
> > > ............
> > > Gary Walsh
> > > C-GOOT
> > > www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: They just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My f |
inal posting on this forum
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Rotax did a recall on that pin. In my case they replaced the entire oil pump
because I had an older model.
Cliff
> Interesting. I had a friend lose a 912 because of a pin(I think) shearing
> in the oil pump. He wrecked his Kitfox trying to land on rough ground. I
> don't think he was injured. He called Rotax and was told that they had
> problems w/ that. They had not made public that info either. Don't know
how
> he made out ,but he sure wasn't happy. Larry
>
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| Subject: | 912 pin in oil Pump |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Does anyone know where can I find out more about the Rotax 912 oil pump pin
that is subject to shearing?
Robert
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| Subject: | Re: They just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My f |
inal posting on this forum
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
That is good. Too bad they didn't make it early enough to save Earl's
plane.At least they must have saved some others. Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Subject: Re: They just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My
f inal
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| Subject: | Re: They just lost my . . . . |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I understand that you can add AmeriKing to the list
too. I have their ELT and have learned that when it
comes time for repairs, they disappear. They even
kept someone's ELT when it was turned in and just
didn't answer.
Not that SS has been the best example lately either.
And I am left a bit cold with Bendix King with my GPS
too. $135 for a little memory B/U battery? And I am
not allowed to even look at their diagrams on line
unless I am a dealer? It is out of warranty and I
still have to pay big bucks?
At least I can bring my parachute back if it doesn't
work... ;-(
Kurt S.
--- Larry Huntley <asq1@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Interesting. I had a friend lose a 912 because of a
> pin(I think) shearing
> in the oil pump. He wrecked his Kitfox trying to
> land on rough ground. I
> don't think he was injured. He called Rotax and was
> told that they had
> problems w/ that. They had not made public that info
> either. Don't know how
> he made out ,but he sure wasn't happy. Larry
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Gary, your reports have been factual and informative. Has anyone suggested
you not post these reports on the list? So long as they continue to be
factual and it doesn't turn into a gangbang, which it so easily can, your
reports are welcome. Please keep us all in the loop.
Darrel Morisse
Kitfox List Administrator
> In response to your question about the version of the cuff....I was told
> by NSI the only way to determine the version of the cuff was to return the
> prop to them. After I did that, they have stopped responding to emails,
> faxes or phone messages. The only method I have used over the past three
> months that is successful is to reach Lance via phone directly, and that
> takes a lot of persistence. I suggest you try calling Lance directly, and
> hope he is taking calls.
>
> Sorry guys. I know a technical forum is no place for these kinds of
> comments. My plane is trashed and my daughter and myself came pretty
> close to being injured or killed. This incident was avoidable. I am
> very upset, but I do not want to get kicked off this forum.
>
> From now on, if anyone wants to talk to me about this incident, please
> contact me OFF LIST.
>
> Gary Walsh
> C-GOOT
> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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| Subject: | Re: They just lost my . . . . |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Well said Kurt. Lots of blame to go around when it comes to vendors not
taking care of problems. I had a simple question for Ameriking, however
they refused to answer it. The only thing they would say is to return the
unit for repair. I found later through another source what to do and fixed
the problem myelf. Are you a member of the Aeroelectic List? I'd almost
guarantee you'd get the information you need there. Lots of avionics
geeks.
Darrel
> I understand that you can add AmeriKing to the list
> too. I have their ELT and have learned that when it
> comes time for repairs, they disappear. They even
> kept someone's ELT when it was turned in and just
> didn't answer.
>
> Not that SS has been the best example lately either.
>
> And I am left a bit cold with Bendix King with my GPS
> too. $135 for a little memory B/U battery? And I am
> not allowed to even look at their diagrams on line
> unless I am a dealer? It is out of warranty and I
> still have to pay big bucks?
>
> At least I can bring my parachute back if it doesn't
> work... ;-(
>
> Kurt S.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Oakley" <joakley@ida.net>
Gary,
I agree with Darrel, that you need to continue to talk to the list.
I have not seen you try to flame the company or any one else. your
info is needed, and wanted. there are many of us who use NSI's products
or are thinking of them. we need all info available to make clear decisions.
there were several people trying to get ahold of me. day phone is 208
529-9500
John Oakley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
Subject: Kitfox-List: Prop failure
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Gary, your reports have been factual and informative. Has anyone suggested
you not post these reports on the list? So long as they continue to be
factual and it doesn't turn into a gangbang, which it so easily can, your
reports are welcome. Please keep us all in the loop.
Darrel Morisse
Kitfox List Administrator
> In response to your question about the version of the cuff....I was told
> by NSI the only way to determine the version of the cuff was to return the
> prop to them. After I did that, they have stopped responding to emails,
> faxes or phone messages. The only method I have used over the past three
> months that is successful is to reach Lance via phone directly, and that
> takes a lot of persistence. I suggest you try calling Lance directly, and
> hope he is taking calls.
>
> Sorry guys. I know a technical forum is no place for these kinds of
> comments. My plane is trashed and my daughter and myself came pretty
> close to being injured or killed. This incident was avoidable. I am
> very upset, but I do not want to get kicked off this forum.
>
> From now on, if anyone wants to talk to me about this incident, please
> contact me OFF LIST.
>
> Gary Walsh
> C-GOOT
> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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| Subject: | 912 pin in oil Pump |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
Hey Guys
The issue of the pin was covered off in the Rotax bulletins.
If I remember correctly the bulletin advised everyone to
change to a solid pin from a roll pin. When I have time I
will look up the bulletin number
Ted
Edmonton, Ab
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Harris,
Robert
Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 pin in oil Pump
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
<Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Does anyone know where can I find out more about the Rotax
912 oil pump pin
that is subject to shearing?
Robert
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
Robert and Others
The Rotax bulletin is SB-912-032 UL Replacement of oil pump
assby. or oil pump shaft. You can find all the details on
the Rotax Owners web site.
Ted
Edmonton, Ab
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Harris,
Robert
Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 pin in oil Pump
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
<Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Does anyone know where can I find out more about the Rotax
912 oil pump pin
that is subject to shearing?
Robert
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| Subject: | 912 pin in oil Pump |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Thank You
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted Palamarek
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 pin in oil Pump
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
Robert and Others
The Rotax bulletin is SB-912-032 UL Replacement of oil pump
assby. or oil pump shaft. You can find all the details on
the Rotax Owners web site.
Ted
Edmonton, Ab
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Harris,
Robert
Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 pin in oil Pump
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
<Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Does anyone know where can I find out more about the Rotax
912 oil pump pin
that is subject to shearing?
Robert
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| Subject: | 912 pin in oil Pump |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Magdic" <steve.magdic@1psg.com>
THIS BULLETIN PERTAINS TO 912A SERIES ENGINES WITH
(GROUP A) S/N 3,792.551 TO 3,792.943
(GROUP B) S/N 3,792.944 TO 4,076.067
Thought I would pass this along.
FYI
Steve M.
N490PA
-----Original Message-----
From: Harris, Robert [mailto:Robert_Harris@intuit.com]
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 pin in oil Pump
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Thank You
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted Palamarek
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 pin in oil Pump
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
Robert and Others
The Rotax bulletin is SB-912-032 UL Replacement of oil pump
assby. or oil pump shaft. You can find all the details on
the Rotax Owners web site.
Ted
Edmonton, Ab
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Harris,
Robert
Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 pin in oil Pump
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
<Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Does anyone know where can I find out more about the Rotax
912 oil pump pin
that is subject to shearing?
Robert
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| Subject: | Flight time exceeds build time - The Cure |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Corner <jcorner@shaw.ca>
Air time on my KF2 at 1050 hrs now exceeds the my recorded build time.
I recently installed a new 582 and things are running so well that I
needed a new project to keep myself busy when the weather is too bad for
flying, golfing or skiing.
The cure was to purchase a virtually untouched Model 5 kit. The
instruction manual is greatly improved over the model 2 version.
In addition I was unaware of this list when I was building previously.
I have probably read most of the answers to questions I may re-ask, but
they weren't very relevant then.
Have already logged 50 hrs building time on the new project and things
are going well.
I had forgotten how much I enjoyed the building part!
Jim Corner
Model 5 - 1550 - Lyc 0-235
Model 2 - 950 - 582
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| Subject: | Re: Bahamas 2004 Trip |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
Richard,
Entering Canada in an Experimental is also easy. Just go to the
Transport Canada web site and download the rules, file a flight plan and
give Canadian Customs a one hour advanced notice. Must land at a AOE
like every where else. No 12" numbers required.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
RICHARD RABBERS wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: RICHARD RABBERS <rira1950@yahoo.com>
>
>Thanks for the very good news. I'm sure things have changed on the US entry side.
>I flew almost daily round trips back in 1999 our of south florida. Returns were
generally a breeze.
>
>Do you happen to know about Canada?
>
>Thanks,
>Richard
>John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net> wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King
>
>Richard,
>
>Not too long ago (over a year) Experimental aircraft had to get special permission
to enter the Bahamas. You had to submit lots of paper work for their approval.
Now all that has changed. Just follow some simple rules and stay out of
trouble. They basically want you to make it easy for you to spend your money there,
so they relaxed the restriction. Ultralights are another matter. Getting
back in the USA is more trouble than getting into the Bahamas.
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 10/22/04 5:35:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
av8rps@tznet.com writes:
<< versions like Don's fibreglass one, or maybe the lexan ones offered by
Blue
Sky? Or is metal still the lightest way to go?
Paul S
Wisconsin >>
I will try to remember and weigh my fiberglass one on Monday and report back
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 air filters and ignition system |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
Lyle,
My experience with the Rotax 912UL ignition wiring breakage problem on
my Model IV has been with only one wire. The red jacketed wire in the
bundle that goes to the stator pickup on the rear of the engine. I did
not replace all of the wires in the bundle, only the red wire. I did
not replace the connector, only a small section of the red wire several
inches long about a couple of inches from the connector at the
modules. I used aircraft grade wire. Once this was done I secured the
wire bundle including the connectors very securely to the module support
bracket that moves with the engine. The movement of these wires is what
causes the problem. On my Series 6, I moved the ignition module
assembly off the engine and on to the engine mount.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Lyle Persels wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lyle Persels <lpers@mchsi.com>
>
>My Kitfox IV (1994 kit) is powered by a standard Rotax 912UL with
>standard Bing constant depression carburetors. Long ago I replaced the
>single air filter with two filters mounted directly on the individual
>carburetor intake throats. I need to replace them. The stamped number on
>the K & N filter I've been using is F019134, but I don't find any such
>filter listed in the catalogs. And I can't seem to find any filters
>listed with exactly the same dimensions as the ones I'm replacing. The
>limiting dimension is the length of 2 1/2 inches. A longer one won't
>clear the firewall. Can you 912 users tell me what air filter you find
>most satisfactory for this application?
>
>My second question relates to ignition wiring. I know that several
>Kitfoxers have replaced at least part of the 912 ignition wiring. Have
>you used the same connectors and terminals, replaced them with the same
>part numbers (distressingly expensive), or replaced them with parts from
>Amp or another U.S. manufacturer? Finally, Should my 10-year old spark
>plug wires, sheaths, and supressed spark plug connectors be replaced?
>
>Lyle Persels
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Model 5 w 912 ULS heavy duty starter |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
Joel,
I have a 912ULS in my Series 6 and just recently replaced the original
starter with the new heavy duty one. The new one would not fit into the
same space due to the additional mounting support at the rear of the
starter. I then cut off most of the material at the rear of the
starter with a band saw and it just fit in with sufficient room for
engine movement. It did take a while to tighten down the mounting bolts
since there is little room to move the tool.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Joel Mapes wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Joel Mapes" <FoxFloatFlyer@hotmail.com>
>
>HELP!
>I'm switching to a 912ULS from the proposed 912A for my Model 5 as the additional
20 horsepower wil make float use feasible. When trying to install the 912ULS
I found that the heavy duty starter is longer then the standard starter and
hits the motor mount, making mounting the engine impossible. My options appear
to be 1) replace the HD starter with a standard starter or 2) remove the motor
mount and have the starboard side tube cut and re-welded to allow clearance.
Suggestions, opionions and supportive chuckles are solicited.
>
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
Don,
I offer the Lexan Turtle deck and prefer it for visibility... I do believe
that the aluminum one is a little lighter... Although I could weight them
next time I get a chance.
Blue Skies
John & Debra McBean
www.sportplanellc.com
"The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
AlbertaIV@aol.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: turtledecks
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 10/22/04 5:35:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
av8rps@tznet.com writes:
<< versions like Don's fibreglass one, or maybe the lexan ones offered by
Blue
Sky? Or is metal still the lightest way to go?
Paul S
Wisconsin >>
I will try to remember and weigh my fiberglass one on Monday and report back
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Hirth (off topic) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
Does anyone know the max EGT temp for a Hirth F30 engine. The only thing
I've been able to fine out (on the web) is 1253 degrees max. I noticed today
that the EGT gauges on one of our engines is redlined at 1500 degrees. Won't
1500 degrees melt an alum piston?
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: They just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My f |
inal posting on this forum
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Larry,
Robert just asked where he could get info on the pin. It would seem that
some of us are not aware of the Rotax Owner Association. Sign on and they
will e-mail you about all the newer Service Letters and Bulletins. This
organization has been publishing and disseminating the Rotax Letters and
Bulletins since I bought my engine in 1996. The first bulletin in the data
base was issued by Rotax in August of 1992. So far there are 112
Bulletins - not all related to our 912 UL or ULS, but Rotax is quite
thorough in notifying their customers of issues pertaining to their engines.
I am not sure why some are not aware of this tremendous resource.
Go to: http://www.rotax-owner.com/ And then click on Service Document
Retrieval System. The easiest way to check for pertinent bulletins is to
use the engine serial number search. This will provide all the bulletins
pertaining to your particular engine.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: They just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My
f inal posting on this forum
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
>
> That is good. Too bad they didn't make it early enough to save Earl's
> plane.At least they must have saved some others. Larry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: They just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure -
My
> f inal
>
>
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| Subject: | 912 engine service pack |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
I ran across this on ebay. Thought someone might be interested.
Darrel
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26437&item=2495661280&rd=1
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| Subject: | Was: They just lost my business - now Rotax Info |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bruce Harrington" <aerowood@mcsi.net>
Lowell,
I would guess there are a lot of "second hand" Rotax owners who aren't aware
of the info you just passed on!
Hopefully they appreciate your assistance!
Cheers,
Bruce
June is coming!
> I am not sure why some are not aware of this tremendous resource.
>
> Go to: http://www.rotax-owner.com/ And then click on Service Document
> Retrieval System. The easiest way to check for pertinent bulletins is to
> use the engine serial number search. This will provide all the bulletins
> pertaining to your particular engine.
>
> Lowell
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
John,
I sat in on a Rotax seminar at Oshkosh. They highly recommend the
stabilizer because car gas breaks down so much faster than 100LL and
varnishes quicker. I updated my carburetors last month and when having them
a part noticed a bunch of varnishing. They highly recommended the
stabilizer, about an ounce a gallon. They also recommend the Pennzoil oil.
I burn Shell 93 Octane about 97% of the time. I use TCP with the 100LL when
I use it. Jeff
> [Original Message]
> From: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/21/2004 10:55:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: pennzoil
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
>
> Jeff,
>
> I am now starting to use the Pennzoil Motorcycle oil based on what Rotax
recommends simply because I am now burning at least 50% avgas. You should
use 10W-40 or 10W-50 weight. Why are you using Pennzoil Marine Stabilizer
in your 912UL? I was told that CarQuest is or was a distributor for
Pennzoil products, so I think they might be able to get it for you.
>
> --
> John King
> Warrenton, VA
>
>
> Jeffrey Puls wrote:
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls"
<pulsair@mindspring.com>
> >
> >John,
> >I have been running the GN-4 Honda motorcycle oil you recommended about 5
> >years ago. What grade of Pennzoil do you run? Also, does anyone know
where
> >I can get the Pennzoil Marine Stabilizer for the fuel. Lockwood charges
> >about $3 a pint. Do you think CarQuest would order it? Thanks, Jeff
912UL
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Thanks Don. Jeff
> [Original Message]
> From: <AlbertaIV@aol.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/22/2004 7:15:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: pennzoil
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 10/21/04 4:02:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> pulsair@mindspring.com writes:
>
> << I can get the Pennzoil Marine Stabilizer for the fuel. Lockwood charges
> about $3 a pint. Do you think CarQuest would order it? Thanks, Jeff
912UL >>
>
> Go to "oil-store.com" for many aviation oils. They also carry a lot
of
> Pennzoil products. I recommended this to a hanger mate the other day.
He came
> back a couple days later with his box from "oil-store". They ship very
fast
> and he stated that he saved about a dollar per quart with the shipping
cost.
> I've used them several times and they are great. Oil shows up on your
door
> step by UPS almost as fast as you get off the order "send" key.
> Don't forget the "-" between oil and store. "in oil-store.com". I
just
> glanced at the site under marine. They have some sort of Pennzoil
stabilizer
> listed.
>
> Don Smythe
> N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: They just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My f |
inal posting on this forum
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
Well done,Lowell. We often think ,"everyone knows that", when ,in fact,many
"everyones" don't. Even if something was covered on the list 6 months
ago,there are probably many who have joined us since then or, like myself,
have been on and off the list over many years. Thanx for the info.
Larry Huntley,Kitfox 4-1200,EA81,Dundee,NY,USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Subject: Re: They just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure - My
f inal posting on this forum
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> Larry,
>
> Robert just asked where he could get info on the pin. It would seem that
> some of us are not aware of the Rotax Owner Association. Sign on and they
> will e-mail you about all the newer Service Letters and Bulletins. This
> organization has been publishing and disseminating the Rotax Letters and
> Bulletins since I bought my engine in 1996. The first bulletin in the
data
> base was issued by Rotax in August of 1992. So far there are 112
> Bulletins - not all related to our 912 UL or ULS, but Rotax is quite
> thorough in notifying their customers of issues pertaining to their
engines.
>
> I am not sure why some are not aware of this tremendous resource.
>
> Go to: http://www.rotax-owner.com/ And then click on Service Document
> Retrieval System. The easiest way to check for pertinent bulletins is to
> use the engine serial number search. This will provide all the bulletins
> pertaining to your particular engine.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: They just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop Failure -
My
> f inal posting on this forum
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
> >
> > That is good. Too bad they didn't make it early enough to save Earl's
> > plane.At least they must have saved some others. Larry
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: They just lost my businessRE: Kitfox-List:NSI Prop
Failure -
> My
> > f inal
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Unhappy with Westberg |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Anybody have a name of someone at Westberg that might help me? I recently sent
my quad gauge and oil pressure sender to Westberg. They sent it back with no
trouble found and the gauge still does not work. When they sent it back a part
was missing that secures the wiring to the oil pressure transducer. Bottom
line is I am worse off than when I sent it to them (not to mention being out
a hundred bucks) and talking to one person at Westberg I found him to be far less
than helpful. Needless to say I am more than a little ticked. Anyway, hoping
that someone on the list has a suggestion of someone with a good customer
service attitude at Westberg that I could talk to.
Thanks
Jimmie
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| Subject: | 912 pin in oil Pump |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
Steve
There is also a bulletin that applies to the 912UL and that
is SB-912.032UL.
Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Steve Magdic
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 pin in oil Pump
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Steve Magdic"
<steve.magdic@1psg.com>
THIS BULLETIN PERTAINS TO 912A SERIES ENGINES WITH
(GROUP A) S/N 3,792.551 TO 3,792.943
(GROUP B) S/N 3,792.944 TO 4,076.067
Thought I would pass this along.
FYI
Steve M.
N490PA
-----Original Message-----
From: Harris, Robert [mailto:Robert_Harris@intuit.com]
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 pin in oil Pump
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
<Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Thank You
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Ted Palamarek
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 pin in oil Pump
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek"
<temco@telusplanet.net>
Robert and Others
The Rotax bulletin is SB-912-032 UL Replacement of oil pump
assby. or oil pump shaft. You can find all the details on
the Rotax Owners web site.
Ted
Edmonton, Ab
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Harris,
Robert
Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 pin in oil Pump
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
<Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
Does anyone know where can I find out more about the Rotax
912 oil pump pin
that is subject to shearing?
Robert
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| Subject: | Unhappy with Westberg |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au>
I've dealt with Pete there a number of times and always found him to be very helpful.
Allan
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Anybody have a name of someone at Westberg that might help me? I recently sent
my quad gauge and oil pressure sender to Westberg. They sent it back with no
trouble found and the gauge still does not work. When they sent it back a part
was missing that secures the wiring to the oil pressure transducer. Bottom
line is I am worse off than when I sent it to them (not to mention being out
a hundred bucks) and talking to one person at Westberg I found him to be far less
than helpful. Needless to say I am more than a little ticked. Anyway, hoping
that someone on the list has a suggestion of someone with a good customer
service attitude at Westberg that I could talk to.
Thanks
Jimmie
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