---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/10/04: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:58 AM - PICS - rad shutters Re: 582 cooling (shortnaked) 2. 04:42 AM - Tailspring (Kevin Schlosser) 3. 06:06 AM - Re: Battery/Starter Problem (Peter Graichen) 4. 02:33 PM - Off topic: Will you take me back? (Jose M. Toro) 5. 02:44 PM - Re: Off topic: Will you take me back? (Don Pearsall) 6. 02:50 PM - Re: Off topic: Will you take me back? (Michel Verheughe) 7. 04:52 PM - Re: Off topic: Will you take me back? (AlbertaIV@aol.com) 8. 05:46 PM - Airpark ? (Tommy Dubroc) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:58:20 AM PST US From: "shortnaked" Subject: PICS - rad shutters Re: Kitfox-List: 582 cooling --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" Here is a place i upload these pics hope this help you all. http://lazair.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=264 PS they got lots of movies on that site too --all UL Lazairs flying around. Shorty ----- Original Message ----- From: "shortnaked" Subject: rad shutters Re: Kitfox-List: 582 cooling > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > sorry if you have to sign up to see this > > http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/lazair/lst?.dir=/582+RAD+SHUTTERS&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/ > > 582 rad shutters - if you want emailed direct sent me a not e and i send > > does this list have a file upload place ? > > Shorty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shortnaked" > To: > Subject: Re: Cold Seizures Re: Kitfox-List: 582 cooling > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" > > > > cowl flaps are whata lot of guys seem to be talking about.. or a flap of > > some kind. > > > > just another thing to put in your routine and /or forget to do.leave > closed > > after decent and do a missed approach and wonder why your temp is now at > > 190. duh > > > > thermo-matic controlled would be the best if feasable. > > > > I seen a guy a few year ago on a pusher with rad mounted in front of motor > > on top and he added a set of shutters in this rad and i think he was > running > > too cool so that is why he added them. Now inside cockpit he has a > > manual control to open and shut them. I should pop over to the strip he > got > > it at and snap a few pics if you interesed. > > > > > > Shorty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Subject: Re: Cold Seizures Re: Kitfox-List: 582 cooling > > > > > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com > > > > > > In a message dated 11/5/04 4:51:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > > shortnaked@golden.net writes: > > > > > > << Maybe in that case Don -- you should use cowl flaps as part of your > pre > > > decent.>> > > > > > > What cowl flaps? That's what I'm working on now so that I will have > cowl > > > flaps just for that reason. > > > > > > << keeping 4 k rpm prolly will be just as well and not hammer happy > ( > > > applying full Throttle) right after a long desent. you can shock cool > a > > >> > > > > > > > > > Ahhh, Keeping about 4K is exactly what I do for normal decents now. > I'll > > > hold it until the numbers are made then slowly decrease to idle. Go > > arounds > > > start at tail up (high speed taxi) then add more and more power slowly. > > No > > > abrupt FULL THROTTLE go arounds for me (unless an emergency). > > > > > > Don Smythe > > > N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582 > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:58 AM PST US From: "Kevin Schlosser" Subject: Kitfox-List: Tailspring --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kevin Schlosser" Does anyone have experience with the "Homebuilt" tailspring from Aircraft Spruce for about $30? It seems like a good fit for my Model 3, but I've also got the address of the one's talked about previously with 2 leafs(remove one). I put a Scott 2000 tailwheel on and had to shim the spring down for it to clear the rudder when landing. Thank You Kevin ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:10 AM PST US From: "Peter Graichen" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Battery/Starter Problem --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Peter Graichen" Hello Don: I found out very early in my flight testing (8 years ago), that when doing short flights ( 30 minutes or less) and maybe even stopping at the gas pump to refuel, meaning another engine start, The standard automotive starter that comes with the NSI does not put out high enough voltage to recharge the battery in during the short flight duration. And if you do the same thing day in and day out the gel cell battery will go downhill. There is a long dissertation on Bob Nuckoll's website on this subject. I purchased a special compact charger specifically for their gel cell batteries. I plug it in after every flight (via a BMW motorcycle plug with spring-loaded cap mounted behind the turtle deck). It stays plugged-in until next flight. It also keeps the smaller stand-by gel cell battery for the IPB (Integrated Power Backup for ignition and fuel pump) charged (with diode in charging circuit). I learned all that very early when learning to fly my Christen Eagle way back when. It solved my very serious gel cell battery problems then as well. The charger, by the way, is available from Bill Bainbridge of B & C Specialty Products. If you talk to him say hello for me. Peter Graichen http://home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of AlbertaIV@aol.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Battery/Starter Problem --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com I have my prop off while doing cowl work. Today I decided to roll the engine a little and let the thing lubricate a bit (mags off). The flange would barely move and only go through one compression stroke. That battery reads 12.35 volts (static). Put the charger on at 2 amps for an hour warm up the battery. Still the same thing. Pulled one plug for each cylinder and engine spun but "MIGHT" have been slow. Now sure since I normally don't do that. Could the Powersonic gel battery be bad (3+ years old) and still indicate a good charge? How about the starter bad? I'm hoping for it to be the batter or some bad contact but this is acting strange. Anybody with any wisdom thoughts? Don Smythe N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:33:25 PM PST US DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=30LmQ+poGPdEhfN/ByRGX0ST9j5BoG9E7bsCI/XNJ26aHSvd14h1kAWFHkZpmSyrlhoBxCJibrIs5uuyezBhuHmCyEGWcyxwTNbLODjrLxPr5dDbVNijpFSsY1/4OHWucfkWXpNrf9cp6mzu+IvVysbadpXAFiPNFhvsEx4M7wE= ; From: "Jose M. Toro" Subject: Kitfox-List: Off topic: Will you take me back? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" Dear Kitfox listers: I just realized that I haven't received the e-mails from the Kitfox list for about a week. I already did my homework and send my contribution. Will you take me back??? It happens that I have an addiction for flying Kitfoxes and for communicating with other Kitfox addicts. I promise that I will behave myself. Regards! Jose Jose M. Toro, P.E. Kitfox II/582 "A slow flight in the Caribbean..." --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:44:29 PM PST US From: "Don Pearsall" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Off topic: Will you take me back? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" Jose, OK, we will take you back if you be good. Seriously, though, your email is making it onto the list, so you are still subscribed. The problem may be with your ISP or your computer filtering the list mail out. Check any rules you have in your email client to see if the KF list emails are landing in a different folder than you expect them to be. I have cc-ed your email address in case you can't see this on the list. After checking your email client for problems and you still are having trouble, let me know. Don Pearsall donpearsall@comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jose M. Toro Subject: Kitfox-List: Off topic: Will you take me back? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" Dear Kitfox listers: I just realized that I haven't received the e-mails from the Kitfox list for about a week. I already did my homework and send my contribution. Will you take me back??? It happens that I have an addiction for flying Kitfoxes and for communicating with other Kitfox addicts. I promise that I will behave myself. Regards! Jose Jose M. Toro, P.E. Kitfox II/582 "A slow flight in the Caribbean..." --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:50:47 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Off topic: Will you take me back? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe "Jose M. Toro" wrote: > Will you take me back??? It happens that I have an addiction for flying Kitfoxes and for communicating with other Kitfox addicts. I promise that I will behave myself. Ok, we will take you back, Jose. But first, you have to stand in front of the group and say: - "Hi, I am Jose and I am an addict!" - (the gang, together) "Hi jose!" :-) Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:52:01 PM PST US From: AlbertaIV@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Off topic: Will you take me back? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com << Dear Kitfox listers: I just realized that I haven't received the e-mails from the Kitfox list for about a week. I already did my homework and send my contribution. >> Jose, Why would it take a week to realize you received no emails from the list? I realize that after 6 hours or less. Welcome back. Don Smythe N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582 Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:36 PM PST US From: "Tommy Dubroc" Subject: Kitfox-List: Airpark ? --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tommy Dubroc" Hello Group, Off topic but may be of interest to some. I'm retiring and selling our home and 46 acres in central Louisiana. Would make a good airpark, for details e-mail me off-list. Tommy Do not archive