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1. 03:55 AM - Re: Rod End part number (Fox5flyer)
2. 04:30 AM - Painting grove gear (Bob Unternaehrer)
3. 05:53 AM - Re: Painting grove gear (Lowell Fitt)
4. 05:58 AM - Turtle Deck from Blue Sky Aviation (Jimmie Blackwell)
5. 06:06 AM - Re: Painting grove gear (Jimmie Blackwell)
6. 06:13 AM - Re: Turtle Deck from Blue Sky Aviation (Howard Firm)
7. 06:29 AM - 582 Oil Injection Access (Kevin Schlosser)
8. 07:18 AM - Re: Rod End part number (Gary Henderson)
9. 07:46 AM - Re: Painting grove gear (Jimmie Blackwell)
10. 07:58 AM - Re: 582 Oil Injection Access (Michel Verheughe)
11. 08:53 AM - Re: Rod End part number (Fox5flyer)
12. 09:03 AM - Leaving for a while (Larry Huntley)
13. 11:13 AM - Re: painting Grove gear (Stu Bryant)
14. 11:29 AM - Re: Turtle Deck from Blue Sky Aviation (Fred Shiple)
15. 11:52 AM - Re: 582 Oil Injection Access (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
16. 12:24 PM - Re: 582 Oil Injection Access (Fox5flyer)
17. 01:41 PM - Re: 582 Oil Injection Access (Jose M. Toro)
18. 02:23 PM - Re: Rod End part number (Jim Corner)
19. 03:00 PM - 582 Oil Injection Access (shortnaked)
20. 03:32 PM - Re: 582 Oil Injection Access (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
21. 03:32 PM - Re: 582 Oil Injection Access (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
22. 04:15 PM - Re: Turtle Deck from Blue Sky Aviation (Dee Young)
23. 07:03 PM - Re: Turtle Deck from Blue Sky Aviation (Jimmie Blackwell)
24. 07:10 PM - Re: 582 Oil Injection Access (Fox5flyer)
25. 07:26 PM - Re: Rod End part number (Fox5flyer)
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| Subject: | Re: Rod End part number |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
The problem Rick is that the SS manual only gives the SS part number, not
the M-number which creates a bit of a problem. I "think" I've got the right
one picked out <M34-14M >, but would like to be sure before ordering.
Darrel
> I am looking at them in my mind and that sounds right. I will check my
> manual at the airport tomorrow, but not sure if it will show that PN. I
seem
> to recall having taken the rudder off for some reasons, I cant remember
why,
> that's what they look like. Is there some reason you cannot pull one and
> measure it. There is a big quality cost difference depending on the type
you
> select.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
> To: Kitfox List
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Rod End part number
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> I need to order some rod end bearings and need a part number. The units I
> need are those that attach the rudder to the vertical fin on a Series V.
I
> believe they use male 1/4-28 threads and the bearing has a .1900 hole for
a
> 10-32 bolt.
> The best I can figure using the Aircraft Spruce catalog is the correct
unit
> is a HEIM part number M34-14M on page 144 of the latest catalog.
> Can anybody verify for me that this is the correct part or if it's the
wrong
> one to set me straight?
> All help appreciated.
> Darrel
>
>
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| Subject: | Painting grove gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
Lot of answers and most seem reasonable. I had mine polished and powder coated
clear. Looks like chrome. Bob U.
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| Subject: | Re: Painting grove gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
I have a question. The answers about the gear finish are interesting. I
know that the aluminum spring gear is heat treated. Does anyone know if the
heat needed to cure powder coating affects the heat treatment and affect
spring qualities or strength?
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Painting grove gear
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
<shilohcom@c-magic.com>
>
> Lot of answers and most seem reasonable. I had mine polished and powder
coated clear. Looks like chrome. Bob U.
>
>
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| Subject: | Turtle Deck from Blue Sky Aviation |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Is there anyone that has installed the one piece Turtle Deck made by Blue Sky Aviation?
Did it work out ok?
Thanks
Jimmie
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| Subject: | Re: Painting grove gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Some really great ideas for painting the Grove gear. Thanks to all of you.
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Painting grove gear
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
<shilohcom@c-magic.com>
>
> Lot of answers and most seem reasonable. I had mine polished and powder
coated clear. Looks like chrome. Bob U.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Turtle Deck from Blue Sky Aviation |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Howard Firm" <pianome2@mchsi.com>
I've installed 2 of them and they are very nice and easy....
Howard Firm
508 12th St. South
Virginia MN 55792
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Turtle Deck from Blue Sky Aviation
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
<jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
> Is there anyone that has installed the one piece Turtle Deck made by Blue
Sky Aviation? Did it work out ok?
>
> Thanks
> Jimmie
>
>
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| Subject: | 582 Oil Injection Access |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Kevin Schlosser" <kschlosser@proformtool.com>
I am pulling the 532 and switching to a 582 oil injected engine. I have the bump
cowling and would like to ask where you mounted the oil tank. It seems to me
that either the bracket on the engine (if it fits under the cowling) or on the
firewall. I'm concerned about easy access to check and fill the tank each flight.
Did you install an access panel and how did you do this? Otherwise it appears
that I would have to unscrew the rear cowling piece that holds the windshield
each time. Thanks much for any help.
Kevin
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| Subject: | Rod End part number |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Henderson" <gjglh@cebridge.net>
>It depends on the model what rod end is used. On my model IV speedster
the only one that is 3/16 X 1/4-28 is the bottom rod end part #93001. The
top 3 rod ends are 3/16 X 10-32 part #93004. These part numbers are
kitfox numbers.
Gary
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
>
> I am looking at them in my mind and that sounds right. I will check my
> manual at the airport tomorrow, but not sure if it will show that PN. I
> seem
> to recall having taken the rudder off for some reasons, I cant remember
> why,
> that's what they look like. Is there some reason you cannot pull one and
> measure it. There is a big quality cost difference depending on the type
> you
> select.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
> To: Kitfox List
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Rod End part number
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> I need to order some rod end bearings and need a part number. The units I
> need are those that attach the rudder to the vertical fin on a Series V.
> I
> believe they use male 1/4-28 threads and the bearing has a .1900 hole for
> a
> 10-32 bolt.
> The best I can figure using the Aircraft Spruce catalog is the correct
> unit
> is a HEIM part number M34-14M on page 144 of the latest catalog.
> Can anybody verify for me that this is the correct part or if it's the
> wrong
> one to set me straight?
> All help appreciated.
> Darrel
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Painting grove gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
I just check the Grove web site and they say that the gear can be powder
coated, but the powder coating process must the kept below 375 degrees f.
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Painting grove gear
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
> I have a question. The answers about the gear finish are interesting. I
> know that the aluminum spring gear is heat treated. Does anyone know if
the
> heat needed to cure powder coating affects the heat treatment and affect
> spring qualities or strength?
>
> Lowell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Painting grove gear
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
> <shilohcom@c-magic.com>
> >
> > Lot of answers and most seem reasonable. I had mine polished and
powder
> coated clear. Looks like chrome. Bob U.
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 582 Oil Injection Access |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Kevin Schlosser wrote:
> It seems to me that either the bracket on the engine (if it fits under the cowling)
> or on the firewall.
I had mine on the firewall, Kevin. A small hatch in the aft cowling allowed to
check and refill oil without removing the cowling.
I write "had" because I have been advised to mix the oil in the tanks. Which I
have done for the past two years and the oil tank has been removed.
The discussion is still out as to what is best for the engine and/or safer:
Premixed oil, or a separate tank. Honestly, I don't know, I did what I was
advised to do at the moment.
If you decide to go for premixing, thus not using the oil tank and pump, be
aware that the pump running dry will eventually brake down. You can prevent
that by removing it entirely, or having a section of a hose upward, with a few
drops of oil in it. I had the latter solution.
Now, I change my 582 for a Jabiru so ... no more oil, well, not that kind of
oil, that is! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Rod End part number |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Thanks for the feedback Gary. As I recall the S5 uses (3each) 1/4-28 X 3/16
. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on this. What I need is the correct AN
part number so I can order some.
Does anybody have some that they don't plan on using? Reply off list for
this.
Thanks.
Darrel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Henderson" <gjglh@cebridge.net>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Rod End part number
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Henderson" <gjglh@cebridge.net>
>
> >It depends on the model what rod end is used. On my model IV speedster
> the only one that is 3/16 X 1/4-28 is the bottom rod end part #93001. The
> top 3 rod ends are 3/16 X 10-32 part #93004. These part numbers are
> kitfox numbers.
>
> Gary
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
> >
> > I am looking at them in my mind and that sounds right. I will check my
> > manual at the airport tomorrow, but not sure if it will show that PN. I
> > seem
> > to recall having taken the rudder off for some reasons, I cant remember
> > why,
> > that's what they look like. Is there some reason you cannot pull one and
> > measure it. There is a big quality cost difference depending on the type
> > you
> > select.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fox5flyer
> > To: Kitfox List
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Rod End part number
> >
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
<morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> >
> > I need to order some rod end bearings and need a part number. The units
I
> > need are those that attach the rudder to the vertical fin on a Series V.
> > I
> > believe they use male 1/4-28 threads and the bearing has a .1900 hole
for
> > a
> > 10-32 bolt.
> > The best I can figure using the Aircraft Spruce catalog is the correct
> > unit
> > is a HEIM part number M34-14M on page 144 of the latest catalog.
> > Can anybody verify for me that this is the correct part or if it's the
> > wrong
> > one to set me straight?
> > All help appreciated.
> > Darrel
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Leaving for a while |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley" <asq1@adelphia.net>
Hi Folks,
Signing off for a while. Be back later. Keep up the good work and thanx to
all who have made the list so informative.
Do Not Archive Larry Huntley,Kitfox 4-1200,EA81,Dundee,NY,USA
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| Subject: | Re: painting Grove gear |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Stu Bryant" <s.j.bryant@sbcglobal.net>
If you do choose an automotive type paint see if that paint system has an
elastomeric or "flexative" additive. Will help keep it from cracking as the
gear flexes. Anodizing and powder coat look very attractive as options. Does
powder coat handle flexing well?
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| Subject: | Re: Turtle Deck from Blue Sky Aviation |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
Easy install and it looks/works well.
Fred
Is there anyone that has installed the one piece Turtle Deck made by Blue Sky
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| Subject: | Re: 582 Oil Injection Access |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 11/13/04 6:30:30 AM Pacific Standard Time,
kschlosser@proformtool.com writes:
<<
I am pulling the 532 and switching to a 582 oil injected engine. I have the
bump cowling and would like to ask where you mounted the oil tank. It seems to
me t >>
The SS manual calls for mounting the tank high on the firewall and
centered directly behind the engine. The instructions called for mounting the
tank
at an angle ( /.. like this) but for the life of me I could not see why so I
mounted mine straight up and down ( I ..like this). Just put it as high as you
possible can since the oil pump system is a gravity only feed.
Be advised, the SS provided tank sits low enough that the bottom of the
tank is below gravity level of the pump input (about 2-3"). Consider this 2-3"
as unusable oil since it will not gravity feed to the pump. I put a bullet
level (tail wheel on the floor) from the pump inlet to the tank and put a mark
indicating the low oil point.
A small cowl door would be handy but you need to pull the cowl at every
flight anyway for pre-flight inspection. Always keep the tank full.
BTW, "to the best of my memory", the Kitfox list has never reported a
failure of the oil injection pump/system nor have I ever seen such a report on
any web site.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: 582 Oil Injection Access |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> BTW, "to the best of my memory", the Kitfox list has never reported a
> failure of the oil injection pump/system nor have I ever seen such a
report on
> any web site.
> Don Smythe
Same here Don. No reports of a oil pump failure (on a Rotax) that I've
heard of. However, I have a golf cart with a Robin engine that uses the
same exact pump. It quit pumping one day, but fortunately when it did, the
engine was at fairly low rpm and caused no damage. I tried everything to
get it to pump, but wouldn't happen. I removed it completely and go with
premix now. Since it's the same pump it's not "quite" apples and oranges.
Darrel
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| Subject: | Re: 582 Oil Injection Access |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jose M. Toro" <jose_m_toro@yahoo.com>
Kevin:
A friend of mine crashed beause the oil injection system failed. I immediately
switched to pre-mix, and do not recommend the oil injection system. I have not
had any problem with my 582 but, like Michel, I'm going for a Jabiru.
Jose
Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe
Kevin Schlosser wrote:
> It seems to me that either the bracket on the engine (if it fits under the cowling)
> or on the firewall.
I had mine on the firewall, Kevin. A small hatch in the aft cowling allowed to
check and refill oil without removing the cowling.
I write "had" because I have been advised to mix the oil in the tanks. Which I
have done for the past two years and the oil tank has been removed.
The discussion is still out as to what is best for the engine and/or safer:
Premixed oil, or a separate tank. Honestly, I don't know, I did what I was
advised to do at the moment.
If you decide to go for premixing, thus not using the oil tank and pump, be
aware that the pump running dry will eventually brake down. You can prevent
that by removing it entirely, or having a section of a hose upward, with a few
drops of oil in it. I had the latter solution.
Now, I change my 582 for a Jabiru so ... no more oil, well, not that kind of
oil, that is! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
Jose M. Toro, P.E.
Kitfox II/582
"A slow flight in the Caribbean..."
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | Rod End part number |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Corner <jcorner@shaw.ca>
I am building a model 5 from a '96 kit I just picked up. About a week
ago I installed the subject rod ends. As is my habit I throw the
packets which contained the rod ends in the garbage. I realized that
someday I too, might want the AN number. Since Skystar prints most part
#'s on the package I went fishing through the garbage. After looking
for a half hour my wife came out and guess what.....the first packet she
found was the rod end packet.
The AN # that is on the package is CM-3BM-14. I have an older spruce
catalogue but could not find this exact part number.
Hopefully this will help..... You did have the sizes correct.....Don't
thank me thank my wife!!
Jim Corner
>
> Thanks for the feedback Gary. As I recall the S5 uses
> (3each) 1/4-28 X 3/16 . Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on
> this. What I need is the correct AN part number so I can
> order some. Does anybody have some that they don't plan on
> using? Reply off list for this. Thanks. Darrel
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Henderson" <gjglh@cebridge.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Rod End part number
>
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Henderson"
> > --> <gjglh@cebridge.net>
> >
> > >It depends on the model what rod end is used. On my model IV
> > >speedster
> > the only one that is 3/16 X 1/4-28 is the bottom rod end
> part #93001.
> > The top 3 rod ends are 3/16 X 10-32 part #93004. These part numbers
> > are kitfox numbers.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
> > >
> > > I am looking at them in my mind and that sounds right. I
> will check
> > > my manual at the airport tomorrow, but not sure if it
> will show that
> > > PN. I seem to recall having taken the rudder off for some
> reasons, I
> > > cant remember why,
> > > that's what they look like. Is there some reason you
> cannot pull one and
> > > measure it. There is a big quality cost difference
> depending on the type
> > > you
> > > select.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > > Fox5flyer
> > > To: Kitfox List
> > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Rod End part number
> > >
> > >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
> <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> > >
> > > I need to order some rod end bearings and need a part
> number. The
> > > units
> I
> > > need are those that attach the rudder to the vertical fin on a
> > > Series V. I believe they use male 1/4-28 threads and the
> bearing has
> > > a .1900 hole
> for
> > > a
> > > 10-32 bolt.
> > > The best I can figure using the Aircraft Spruce catalog is the
> > > correct unit is a HEIM part number M34-14M on page 144 of
> the latest
> > > catalog. Can anybody verify for me that this is the
> correct part or
> > > if it's the wrong
> > > one to set me straight?
> > > All help appreciated.
> > > Darrel
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | 582 Oil Injection Access |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
Like all other aspects of any engine it 99% of time comes down to ham fist
on end of wrench or in charge of oil, gas etc.
oil injection is great
different oils mixed together can cause oils to gel
ther is a filter as well to change
Shorty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 Oil Injection Access
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
>
> > BTW, "to the best of my memory", the Kitfox list has never reported
a
> > failure of the oil injection pump/system nor have I ever seen such a
> report on
> > any web site.
> > Don Smythe
>
> Same here Don. No reports of a oil pump failure (on a Rotax) that I've
> heard of. However, I have a golf cart with a Robin engine that uses the
> same exact pump. It quit pumping one day, but fortunately when it did,
the
> engine was at fairly low rpm and caused no damage. I tried everything to
> get it to pump, but wouldn't happen. I removed it completely and go with
> premix now. Since it's the same pump it's not "quite" apples and oranges.
> Darrel
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 582 Oil Injection Access |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 11/13/04 1:42:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
jose_m_toro@yahoo.com writes:
<<
Kevin:
A friend of mine crashed beause the oil injection system failed. I
immediately switched to pre-mix, and do not recommend the oil injection system.
I
have not had any problem with my 582 but, like Michel, I'm going for a Jabiru.
Jose >>
Jose,
Your report of an oil injector failing is the very first I've heard with
the exception of Darrels golf cart. In defense of the oil injection system,
there are any number of thousands of things that can go wrong with an airplane
to make it crash. The injection system has a history of being one of the most
reliable parts on a Rotax 582. To say you don't recommend the injection
system because of one failure seems a bit harsh.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: 582 Oil Injection Access |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 11/13/04 12:26:03 PM Pacific Standard Time,
morid@northland.lib.mi.us writes:
<< heard of. However, I have a golf cart with a Robin engine that uses the
same exact pump. It quit pumping one day, but fortunately when it did, the
engine was at fairly low rpm and caused no damage. I tried everything to >>
Darell,
This might be Kitfox related...How did you know the pump had failed? Did
you have some kind of warning? I'm guessing you were not running full
EGT/CHT instruments on a golf cart. Heck, I never heard of a 2 stroke golf cart.
On the other hand, I don't play golf.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Re: Turtle Deck from Blue Sky Aviation |
Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 17:14:40 -0700
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Jimmie, if it helps I installed a one piece solid aluminum that was built by Skystar
for the Light 2. It has worked out well
----- Original Message -----
From: Jimmie Blackwell<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:54 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Turtle Deck from Blue Sky Aviation
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>>
Is there anyone that has installed the one piece Turtle Deck made by Blue Sky
Aviation? Did it work out ok?
Thanks
Jimmie
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| Subject: | Re: Turtle Deck from Blue Sky Aviation |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
By solid do you mean without the hinge in the middle? I am looking for a
way to stiffen mine because it sure makes a lot of noise in flight. I think
that is because of the hinge.
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Turtle Deck from Blue Sky Aviation
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
>
> Jimmie, if it helps I installed a one piece solid aluminum that was built
by Skystar for the Light 2. It has worked out well
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jimmie Blackwell<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:54 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Turtle Deck from Blue Sky Aviation
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell"
<jablackwell@ev1.net<mailto:jablackwell@ev1.net>>
>
> Is there anyone that has installed the one piece Turtle Deck made by
Blue Sky Aviation? Did it work out ok?
>
> Thanks
> Jimmie
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 582 Oil Injection Access |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Yup, it's an EZGo 1987. Engine started making funny noises and was
beginning to seize just as I drove in the driveway. After a bit of
troubleshooting I found the pump wasn't pumping so I removed it all and
covered the shaft hole with an aluminum plate. That was a couple years ago
and it's still running strong on premix. I don't play golf either. I just
like to zoom around the neighborhood terrorizing the natives with it.
On another note, the pumps are notoriously reliable, but I understand that
most people in Alaska that use the 582 remove the pump and go straight
premix. With the terrain up there I can understand why.
Darrel
> This might be Kitfox related...How did you know the pump had failed?
Did
> you have some kind of warning? I'm guessing you were not running full
> EGT/CHT instruments on a golf cart. Heck, I never heard of a 2 stroke
golf cart.
> On the other hand, I don't play golf.
> Don Smythe
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| Subject: | Re: Rod End part number |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
Hey, thanks to your wife Jim. You get a little bit of credit too... :-)
I looked up the part at Spruce, but none listed. Same with Wicks. So I
changed it a little by leaving off a letter (second M), CM-3B-14 rather than
CM-3BM-14 and up popped what I think is the correct part. Price is right
too. I have no idea what that M means. Thanks a bunch.
Darrel
ps: These AN part numbers really do get up my nose sometimes. There
doesn't seem to be a logical standard that's used across the board and often
it's difficult to find something that explains them.
> I am building a model 5 from a '96 kit I just picked up. About a week
> ago I installed the subject rod ends. As is my habit I throw the
> packets which contained the rod ends in the garbage. I realized that
> someday I too, might want the AN number. Since Skystar prints most part
> #'s on the package I went fishing through the garbage. After looking
> for a half hour my wife came out and guess what.....the first packet she
> found was the rod end packet.
> The AN # that is on the package is CM-3BM-14. I have an older spruce
> catalogue but could not find this exact part number.
> Hopefully this will help..... You did have the sizes correct.....Don't
> thank me thank my wife!!
>
> Jim Corner
>
>
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback Gary. As I recall the S5 uses
> > (3each) 1/4-28 X 3/16 . Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on
> > this. What I need is the correct AN part number so I can
> > order some. Does anybody have some that they don't plan on
> > using? Reply off list for this. Thanks. Darrel
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary Henderson" <gjglh@cebridge.net>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Rod End part number
> >
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Gary Henderson"
> > > --> <gjglh@cebridge.net>
> > >
> > > >It depends on the model what rod end is used. On my model IV
> > > >speedster
> > > the only one that is 3/16 X 1/4-28 is the bottom rod end
> > part #93001.
> > > The top 3 rod ends are 3/16 X 10-32 part #93004. These part numbers
> > > are kitfox numbers.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <turboflyer@comcast.net>
> > > >
> > > > I am looking at them in my mind and that sounds right. I
> > will check
> > > > my manual at the airport tomorrow, but not sure if it
> > will show that
> > > > PN. I seem to recall having taken the rudder off for some
> > reasons, I
> > > > cant remember why,
> > > > that's what they look like. Is there some reason you
> > cannot pull one and
> > > > measure it. There is a big quality cost difference
> > depending on the type
> > > > you
> > > > select.
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > > > Fox5flyer
> > > > To: Kitfox List
> > > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Rod End part number
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer"
> > <morid@northland.lib.mi.us>
> > > >
> > > > I need to order some rod end bearings and need a part
> > number. The
> > > > units
> > I
> > > > need are those that attach the rudder to the vertical fin on a
> > > > Series V. I believe they use male 1/4-28 threads and the
> > bearing has
> > > > a .1900 hole
> > for
> > > > a
> > > > 10-32 bolt.
> > > > The best I can figure using the Aircraft Spruce catalog is the
> > > > correct unit is a HEIM part number M34-14M on page 144 of
> > the latest
> > > > catalog. Can anybody verify for me that this is the
> > correct part or
> > > > if it's the wrong
> > > > one to set me straight?
> > > > All help appreciated.
> > > > Darrel
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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