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1. 02:11 AM - Re: 582 timing (BROSCHART)
2. 02:18 AM - Re: Lexan (Jimmie Blackwell)
3. 05:03 AM - Re: Bob,,CHT sensors (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
4. 05:53 AM - Cool kitfox Picture (Clifford Begnaud)
5. 07:34 AM - GSC Propeller (Chris Erickson)
6. 08:09 AM - Re: Cool kitfox Picture (Don Pearsall)
7. 02:08 PM - 582 rpm/prop (Lmar)
8. 03:05 PM - Mine is also from 93 and ... I still have the original! Ok, a few scratches, especially (Rex & Jan Shaw)
9. 03:11 PM - The answer is not stricter laws (Rex & Jan Shaw)
10. 03:31 PM - What can you tell about flying a Jabiru powered plane? I just placed the order (Rex & Jan Shaw)
11. 04:37 PM - Re: 582 rpm/prop (Bob Robertson)
12. 07:36 PM - Re: Cool kitfox Picture (Clifford Begnaud)
13. 07:52 PM - Grove Gear Installation Model IV (Jimmie Blackwell)
14. 08:32 PM - Re: Cool kitfox Picture (John King)
15. 08:48 PM - Re: Grove Gear Installation Model IV (John King)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: BROSCHART <cfbflyer@localnet.com>
when i over hauled the engine at 300 hours the gear was nearly worn out,
now with another 100 hours on it seems wise to check it's condition
just like changing spark plugs long before they fail
Have a good day - Charlie
Bob Robertson wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
>
> Hi Charlie,
> Unfortunatley, there is no accurate way to check the condition of the bronze
> gear without a visual on the gear.
> Checking the backlash on the rotary valve shaft (as per the repair manual)
> will only tell you the condition of the individual gear tooth in contact
> with the crankshaft gear.
> I have a question though....What makes you think there is a problem with the
> gear?
>
> regards
>
> Bob Robertson
> Light Engine Services Ltd.
> Rotax Service Center
> St. Albert, Ab. T8N 1M8
> Ph: (Tech Support) 1-780-418-4164
> Ph: (Order Line) 1-866-418-4164 (TOLL FREE)
> www.rtx-av-engines.ca
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BROSCHART" <cfbflyer@localnet.com>
> To: "fox2" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 timing
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>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: BROSCHART <cfbflyer@localnet.com>
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>>is there a way to check the condition of the bronze timing gear on the
>>582 valve timing shaft with out removing the shaft
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>>Have a good day - Charlie
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Thanks Michel
I could only find .118" locally. Since my VNE is 125 mph I will give it a
try. Sounds like the key to it is smooth edges and careful cutting and
drilling. I also plan to use machine screws and nylon washers instead of
rivets. Hope that helps a little.
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Verheughe" <michel@online.no>
Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: Lexan
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
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> > From: Jimmie Blackwell [jablackwell@ev1.net]
> > Is yours the .090" or .118"
>
> Mine is the thin one, Jimmie. I haven't installed it myself and I don't
know the spec but it is certainly more 2 mm than 3 and therefore I believe
it is the thin one (0.09").
> It is quite flexible if you press on the center. To start with, I was a
bit worried, wondering how it would hold at high speed. But my model 3 has
100 MPH as Vne and that's slow anyway.
> Of course, I am very careful that not one drop of fuel is coming on it and
I apply quite often Johnson's Pledge polish ... smells good too! :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Bob,,CHT sensors |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 11/24/04 8:04:56 PM Pacific Standard Time,
aerocon1@telusplanet.net writes:
<< removes from your coolant. A good piece of info would be to mount the
sensors
at each side of the engine adjacent to the coolant intake (at the water
pump)
and at the thermostat(coolant exit) to tell how much heat the engine adds to
the cooolant. >>
Hmmm, hadn't thought of that? I am "curious" whether or not I'm/we are
making the input/output temp spec that Rotax recommends.
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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| Subject: | Cool kitfox Picture |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Take a look at Avweb's picture of the week:
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/317-full.html#188656
best regards,
Cliff
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Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:29:45 -0500
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Chris Erickson" <umasha@msn.com>
Hi Chad, I'm inquiring about the propeller on behalf of my father. When would
be a good time for him to call you? Thanks. Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: chad lively<mailto:chadl@compu.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: GSC Propeller
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "chad lively" <chadl@compu.net<mailto:chadl@compu.net>>
Chris, I have a GSC 68" Contact me off line. Chad
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| Subject: | Cool kitfox Picture |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
That's John King's old Model IV! Also note there is no one flying the plane!
Don Pearsall
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clifford
Begnaud
Subject: Kitfox-List: Cool kitfox Picture
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
<shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Take a look at Avweb's picture of the week:
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/317-full.html#188656
best regards,
Cliff
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lmar <my93avid@yahoo.com>
I'm on a quest again.
The Rotax installation manual states "For aircraft installation.
The break in must be accomplished with the engine installed and
properly loaded with matched propeller for max rpm. (refer to OM)
The OM states "Operating parameters.....
Take off speed...6800rpm max 5 min
Cruise speed.....6500rpm max 5 min
Does anyone set it up like this?
1. Does anyone turn 6800rpm max?
2. What is you max static rpm? EGT at the rpm?
Larry
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| Subject: | Mine is also from 93 and ... I still have the original! Ok, |
a few scratches, especially
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Mine is also from 93 and ... I still have the original! Ok, a few scratches,
especially
near the glareshield, when people have put objects on it, but otherwise,
no crack due to bending of the Lexan, at all.
... Norwegian weather must be kind to Lexan! :-)
Well I don't know, I'm in Australia and mine is original from ,94 and in
good nick still.
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | The answer is not stricter laws |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
The
answer is not stricter laws, it is PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!
Very well said. We need politicians like that in Australia,
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | What can you tell about flying a Jabiru powered plane? I |
just placed the order
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
What can you tell about flying a Jabiru powered plane? I just placed the
order
for my Jabiru 2200. I did a lot of research, but have never seen one.
Hi ! Jose,
I'll answer you off list as it might take up too much space,
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Re: 582 rpm/prop |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob Robertson" <aerocontrols@clearwave.ca>
Hi Larry,
I'm sure there are a few owners who set their engines up to those specs
(initially at least).
Those are MAX numbers and running at them would lead to premature engine
wear.
Here is some stuff to think on.
If the engine is set to allow max rpm you would have to use a "climb"
prop...or set the pitch a little finer than average. When you come back to
cruise rpm the engine is not heavily loaded and the throttle is retarded
quite a way. This leads to a lean mixture which is unhealthy for a two
stroke.
I like to set the engines up so you hit a max of 6250 rpm on a static run
(tail tied to your truck or a nearby tree). This should allow you
somewhere around 600/6350 for take off power and around 6400 max in level
flight. These settings will still allow you to keep the engine loaded down
while mainting 5800/6000 cruise rpm.. This will keep the EGTs a bit more in
line.
Hope this helps
Bob Robertson
Light Engine Services Ltd.
Rotax Service Center
St. Albert, Ab. T8N 1M8
Ph: (Tech Support) 1-780-418-4164
Ph: (Order Line) 1-866-418-4164 (TOLL FREE)
www.rtx-av-engines.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lmar" <my93avid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 rpm/prop
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lmar <my93avid@yahoo.com>
>
> I'm on a quest again.
>
> The Rotax installation manual states "For aircraft installation.
> The break in must be accomplished with the engine installed and
> properly loaded with matched propeller for max rpm. (refer to OM)
>
> The OM states "Operating parameters.....
> Take off speed...6800rpm max 5 min
> Cruise speed.....6500rpm max 5 min
>
> Does anyone set it up like this?
>
>
> 1. Does anyone turn 6800rpm max?
>
> 2. What is you max static rpm? EGT at the rpm?
>
>
> Larry
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cool kitfox Picture |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
Yes, apparently Johns plane has changed hands again.
Obviously the picture has been doctored, but it has been done very well.
Cliff
>
> That's John King's old Model IV! Also note there is no one flying the
> plane!
>
> Don Pearsall
>
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do not archive
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| Subject: | Grove Gear Installation Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
Received my Grove main gear a few days ago and am making plans to install it in
the next few days. I am leaning toward renting an engine hoist or cherry picker
and lifting the front of the airplane by attaching rope to the points on the
fuselage where the engine mounts connect and to the engine mount where the
engine attaches. Someone please tell me if there are any precautions I need to
consider such as putting to much stress on my attach points or if I need to consider
other lift points.
Thanks
Jimmie
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| Subject: | Re: Cool kitfox Picture |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
Don & Cliff,
That is my old model IV (N193JK) and it is still owned by Chuck
Tippett. He flies up to the New England every summer. He was probably
is flying young kids at the time and was flying from the left seat.
This is the first time I saw that picture.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Clifford Begnaud wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
>Yes, apparently Johns plane has changed hands again.
>Obviously the picture has been doctored, but it has been done very well.
>Cliff
>
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>>That's John King's old Model IV! Also note there is no one flying the
>>plane!
>>
>>Don Pearsall
>>
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>do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Grove Gear Installation Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
Jimmie,
The Kitfox is not that heavy. Just get a couple of guys to lift up on
the wing struts where they attach to the wing and a third place a padded
support under the fuselage. Then raise the tail and place a support
under the tail wheel to level the plane. I have done that several times.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Jimmie Blackwell wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
>Received my Grove main gear a few days ago and am making plans to install it in
the next few days. I am leaning toward renting an engine hoist or cherry picker
and lifting the front of the airplane by attaching rope to the points on
the fuselage where the engine mounts connect and to the engine mount where the
engine attaches. Someone please tell me if there are any precautions I need to
consider such as putting to much stress on my attach points or if I need to
consider other lift points.
>
>Thanks
>Jimmie
>
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