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1. 01:04 AM - Lexan (Michel Verheughe)
2. 02:25 AM - List Contributors Lagging By 38%... (Matt Dralle)
3. 07:30 AM - Re: Grove Gear Installation Model IV (customtrans@qwest.net)
4. 07:42 AM - Re: Grove Gear Installation Model IV (customtrans@qwest.net)
5. 07:52 AM - kitfox II POH (GONER752@aol.com)
6. 07:55 AM - Kitfox II POH (GONER752@aol.com)
7. 08:24 AM - Re: List Contributors Lagging By 38%... (Don Pearsall)
8. 08:26 AM - Re: Kitfox II POH (Steve Zakreski)
9. 08:44 AM - Cowl/exhaust header interference (Joel Mapes)
10. 10:34 AM - Re: kitfox II POH (shortnaked)
11. 10:49 AM - Re: Cowl/exhaust header interference (kurt schrader)
12. 02:03 PM - 1. Does anyone turn 6800rpm max? (Rex & Jan Shaw)
13. 02:39 PM - Re: 1. Does anyone turn 6800rpm max? (Cudnohufsky's)
14. 03:02 PM - Re: kitfox II POH (Jim Corner)
15. 03:10 PM - Re: 1. Does anyone turn 6800rpm max? (AlbertaIV@aol.com)
16. 04:25 PM - kf II POH (GONER752@aol.com)
17. 06:26 PM - Re: 1. Does anyone turn 6800rpm max? (Torgeir Mortensen)
18. 06:32 PM - O.T. Vortex Generators. (Torgeir Mortensen)
19. 07:40 PM - Re: Cowl/exhaust header interference (Joel Mapes)
20. 09:01 PM - Re: O.T. Vortex Generators. (Randy Daughenbaugh)
21. 09:25 PM - Re: O.T. Vortex Generators. (Aerobatics@aol.com)
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Rex & Jan Shaw [rexjan@bigpond.com]
> ... Norwegian weather must be kind to Lexan! :-)
> Well I don't know, I'm in Australia and mine is original from ,94 and in
> good nick still.
Ok, this is a scientific experiement: We can, so far, conclude that Lexan can look
good over a long time, ... in both hemispheres! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | List Contributors Lagging By 38%... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this
year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 38%! I'm
hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their
support... ;-)
Please remember that its solely your direct Contributions that keep these
Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't
want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding
advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really*
don't want to have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial
atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too.
Won't you please take a moment to make a contribution today in support of
the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have
already made their generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
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| Subject: | Grove Gear Installation Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
I just put mine on, here goes on what I did. First off, the mounting bracket
on the very front is not jigged, it's just welded on at a measurement point.
That means that one side will not fit on the brackets sent from Grove. So,
grind off what is needed on the bracket sent on the front portion. Next use
a cherry picker, I lifted at the exhaust manifolds of the engine using a big
vbelt, but then again I had the right wing off at the time, I say you use a
point that you feel comfortable with, I have the 912ul. If I had both wings
on, I would have used two vbelts and picked up from both sides of the
exhaust. Next I put the brackets on first then put the landing gear on to
the brackets. Simple and doable.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John King
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Grove Gear Installation Model IV
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
Jimmie,
The Kitfox is not that heavy. Just get a couple of guys to lift up on
the wing struts where they attach to the wing and a third place a padded
support under the fuselage. Then raise the tail and place a support
under the tail wheel to level the plane. I have done that several times.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Jimmie Blackwell wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
>Received my Grove main gear a few days ago and am making plans to install
it in the next few days. I am leaning toward renting an engine hoist or
cherry picker and lifting the front of the airplane by attaching rope to the
points on the fuselage where the engine mounts connect and to the engine
mount where the engine attaches. Someone please tell me if there are any
precautions I need to consider such as putting to much stress on my attach
points or if I need to consider other lift points.
>
>Thanks
>Jimmie
>
>
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| Subject: | Grove Gear Installation Model IV |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: customtrans@qwest.net
Oops, I meant to say intake manifold, NOT exhaust.
I just put mine on, here goes on what I did. First off, the mounting bracket
on the very front is not jigged, it's just welded on at a measurement point.
That means that one side will not fit on the brackets sent from Grove. So,
grind off what is needed on the bracket sent on the front portion. Next use
a cherry picker, I lifted at the exhaust manifolds of the engine using a big
vbelt, but then again I had the right wing off at the time, I say you use a
point that you feel comfortable with, I have the 912ul. If I had both wings
on, I would have used two vbelts and picked up from both sides of the
exhaust. Next I put the brackets on first then put the landing gear on to
the brackets. Simple and doable.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John King
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Grove Gear Installation Model IV
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: John King <kingjohne@adelphia.net>
Jimmie,
The Kitfox is not that heavy. Just get a couple of guys to lift up on
the wing struts where they attach to the wing and a third place a padded
support under the fuselage. Then raise the tail and place a support
under the tail wheel to level the plane. I have done that several times.
--
John King
Warrenton, VA
Jimmie Blackwell wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jimmie Blackwell" <jablackwell@ev1.net>
>
>Received my Grove main gear a few days ago and am making plans to install
it in the next few days. I am leaning toward renting an engine hoist or
cherry picker and lifting the front of the airplane by attaching rope to the
points on the fuselage where the engine mounts connect and to the engine
mount where the engine attaches. Someone please tell me if there are any
precautions I need to consider such as putting to much stress on my attach
points or if I need to consider other lift points.
>
>Thanks
>Jimmie
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: GONER752@aol.com
I recently purchased a kf II that was finished in 1990.The plane changed
hands several times between me and the original builder,with noone registering
the plane between.I got the plane as the fellow I bought it from, apparently in
flying condition. However, no airframe, engine or prop logs. I do have the
original build manuals with the builders notes, but no POH or performance data,
which I understand was to be compiled by the builder through flight testing. I
supposed I could conduct a new complete flight test, but I would like to know
at least a basic set of flight parameters beforehand such as stall
speeds(clean and flaps ext.), max. flap oper. speed, etc. Also engine oper. temps.(
water,cht,egt.) and rpm info. Power is a rotax 582 w/ a gsc 3 blade wooden prop.The
hobbs shows 830 hrs. The original builder passed away in '97 also the next
owner in line, so the material I have is all there is.I am a lic. private, so
while I feel i can competantly fly the plane I also appreciate the danger of
attempting to fly without any known parameters.Any help or suggestions would be
greatly appeciated.Thanks in advance.
Regards All,
Greg G.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: GONER752@aol.com
I forgot to include my email add. goner752@aol.com
response by list or email either way. thanks again,
Greg G.
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| Subject: | List Contributors Lagging By 38%... |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
I want to also encourage all listers to contribute to the Kitfox List. Give
as much or as little as you think this service is worth.
Since its beginning about 10 years ago, the Kitfox list has remained "free",
at least to the members. It has never been free to the hosts, who had to
bear all costs. We do NOT want Matt to go to a Yahoo - type system where
there are ads all over our messages, or worse, drop the list altogether.
I know that you may have contribution-fatigue due to the recent elections
and now the holidays (as do I), but please recognize the value of the Kitfox
List and go to http://www.matronics.com/contribution and contribute what
you can to keep the list going.
Thank you,
Don Pearsall
List Admin.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Subject: Kitfox-List: List Contributors Lagging By 38%...
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this
year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 38%! I'm
hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their
support... ;-)
Please remember that its solely your direct Contributions that keep these
Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't
want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding
advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really*
don't want to have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial
atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too.
Won't you please take a moment to make a contribution today in support of
the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have
already made their generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Steve Zakreski <szakreski@shaw.ca>
Greg
I'll let someone else give you the speeds since my aircraft is a heavy beast
compared to yours (big NSI engine). But your in no different position than
every new builder taking a first flight. Good to be careful, but it's going
to be fun. Do you have tail dragger experience? If not, you must get some
prior to flying the Kitfox.
A couple of suggestions (though somewhat controversial lately). I don't
suggest any high speed taxi tests. Low speed yes. A few people have
totalled their aircraft doing high speed tests. During your low speed taxi
tests, convince yourself the aircraft is tracking well. If it wanders all
over the runway, you need to look up some old posts regarding aligning the
tailwheel and main gear. Also some long engine ground tests with the
aircraft tied down and the aircraft blocked up at climb attitude. It is an
easy aircraft to fly, and not hard to land when all trimmed correctly.
Obviously stay away from crosswinds until you gain experience. Skystar
publishes a small booklet titled something like "How to Fly a Kitfox". That
might be worth a look, but not essential. I have an old copy someplace you
ca borrow if you can't find one.
SteveZ
Calgary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
GONER752@aol.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox II POH
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: GONER752@aol.com
I forgot to include my email add. goner752@aol.com
response by list or email either way. thanks again,
Greg G.
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| Subject: | Cowl/exhaust header interference |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Joel Mapes" <FoxFloatFlyer@hotmail.com>
After fitting the cowl to my Model 5 with Model 7 Rotax 912 FWF as per the Skystar
manual, I have installed the exhaust system only to find that the right front
exhaust header contacts the cowl at the front. I have a GTA in-flight adjustable
pitch prop which does not use a hub extension. Is it possible to shorten
the curve of the header? How much clearance should exist between the headers
and the fiberglass cowling?
Thanks,
Joel
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| Subject: | Re: kitfox II POH |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "shortnaked" <shortnaked@golden.net>
Hi Greg,
Hope you read some posts of the last week or so on Taxi tests.
Taildragger experience is a pre - requiste imo
-if not get some tail time. ( I have found that tricycle gear pilots tend to
be lazy in the transition period.& you need to be on top of the yaw control
at all times more so thanin a tri gear)
Don't have a POH on hand for a ser 2 at moment but i would guess you could
say 30 mph gonna be your "getting ready to fly " area.
Get feeling good and do taxi tests. slow at first and speed em up as you
feel more confident.
-and i guess it goes with out saying since you are a priv pilot--- try in
under 5 mph winds to start.
Some will argue that higher speed taxi can be disasterous but hey if you
cannot hande la high speed taxi test you are not ready to take off or
LAND.
end of story !!
Shorty !!
Good Luck.
----- Original Message -----
From: <GONER752@aol.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: kitfox II POH
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: GONER752@aol.com
>
> I recently purchased a kf II that was finished in 1990.The plane changed
> hands several times between me and the original builder,with noone
registering
> the plane between.I got the plane as the fellow I bought it from,
apparently in
> flying condition. However, no airframe, engine or prop logs. I do have the
> original build manuals with the builders notes, but no POH or performance
data,
> which I understand was to be compiled by the builder through flight
testing. I
> supposed I could conduct a new complete flight test, but I would like to
know
> at least a basic set of flight parameters beforehand such as stall
> speeds(clean and flaps ext.), max. flap oper. speed, etc. Also engine
oper. temps.(
> water,cht,egt.) and rpm info. Power is a rotax 582 w/ a gsc 3 blade wooden
prop.The
> hobbs shows 830 hrs. The original builder passed away in '97 also the next
> owner in line, so the material I have is all there is.I am a lic. private,
so
> while I feel i can competantly fly the plane I also appreciate the danger
of
> attempting to fly without any known parameters.Any help or suggestions
would be
> greatly appeciated.Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards All,
> Greg G.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cowl/exhaust header interference |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Joel,
I had the same problem with my S-5 and NSI Soob. I
shortened the exhaust by 1/2" from the cowl and
wrapped it. (Had it rewelded that way.) Then I
coated the inside of the cowl with the 2000 degree
reflective barrier.
That works, but I think the prop extension is a better
idea if you can do it. That would have worked better
in the end for me. Now I always worry about the weld
cracking or the cowl paint scorching. Also the right
prop extension moves the prop a little farther out
from the cowl and improves its efficiency, IMHO.
Kurt S.
--- Joel Mapes <FoxFloatFlyer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> After fitting the cowl to my Model 5 with Model 7
> Rotax 912 FWF as per the Skystar manual, I have
> installed the exhaust system only to find that the
> right front exhaust header contacts the cowl at the
> front. I have a GTA in-flight adjustable pitch prop
> which does not use a hub extension. Is it possible
> to shorten the curve of the header? How much
> clearance should exist between the headers and the
> fiberglass cowling?
> Thanks,
> Joel
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| Subject: | 1. Does anyone turn 6800rpm max? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
1. Does anyone turn 6800rpm max?
Yes ! Why ? What's the problem ? I understand it seems like it's screaming
if your used to a fourstroke or something but really it's fine. I used to
race an old Yamaha DT250 motor about '77 vintage in a Kart a few years ago.
This never went much under 14,000 RPM. on the track and could and did pull
18,500. this motor ran for 10 years and still won the first meeting for the
guy that bought it. Admittedly I used to replace the rod every six months
just to be sure. I used to polish the new rod then shotpeen it before
installation. In that time I bored it once and that was the only piston
change. No it wasn't a standard piston though. Anyway what I'm trying to say
is 6,800 is OK. Mostly I cruise on 6,000. I hope this makes you feel
easier.
Rex.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Re: 1. Does anyone turn 6800rpm max? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@chartermi.net>
I had a Rotax 503 in my Model IV and cruised at 6K all day. I ran it for
almost 5 years before moving to a Model V.
Lloyd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: 1. Does anyone turn 6800rpm max?
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
>
> 1. Does anyone turn 6800rpm max?
>
> Yes ! Why ? What's the problem ? I understand it seems like it's
> screaming
> if your used to a fourstroke or something but really it's fine. I used to
> race an old Yamaha DT250 motor about '77 vintage in a Kart a few years
> ago.
> This never went much under 14,000 RPM. on the track and could and did pull
> 18,500. this motor ran for 10 years and still won the first meeting for
> the
> guy that bought it. Admittedly I used to replace the rod every six months
> just to be sure. I used to polish the new rod then shotpeen it before
> installation. In that time I bored it once and that was the only piston
> change. No it wasn't a standard piston though. Anyway what I'm trying to
> say
> is 6,800 is OK. Mostly I cruise on 6,000. I hope this makes you feel
> easier.
> Rex.
> rexjan@bigpond.com
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jim Corner <jcorner@shaw.ca>
Greg
For take-off I use 40 mph as rotate speed and settle on 55 as best ROC
speed. You should see around 1000 fpm or a little better.
For landing 55 (best glide) is also a good over the fence speed although
it will float at that speed. If the float is excessive start slowing
your approach speed to 50 with touch down a bit less than 40. Once you
get the hang of it the 45 mph is great for those short fields.
Jim
>
> I recently purchased a kf II that was finished in 1990.The
> plane changed
> hands several times between me and the original builder,with
> noone registering
> the plane between.I got the plane as the fellow I bought it
> from, apparently in
> flying condition. However, no airframe, engine or prop logs.
> I do have the
> original build manuals with the builders notes, but no POH or
> performance data,
> which I understand was to be compiled by the builder through
> flight testing. I
> supposed I could conduct a new complete flight test, but I
> would like to know
> at least a basic set of flight parameters beforehand such as stall
> speeds(clean and flaps ext.), max. flap oper. speed, etc.
> Also engine oper. temps.(
> water,cht,egt.) and rpm info. Power is a rotax 582 w/ a gsc 3
> blade wooden prop.The
> hobbs shows 830 hrs. The original builder passed away in '97
> also the next
> owner in line, so the material I have is all there is.I am a
> lic. private, so
> while I feel i can competantly fly the plane I also
> appreciate the danger of
> attempting to fly without any known parameters.Any help or
> suggestions would be
> greatly appeciated.Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards All,
> Greg G.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 1. Does anyone turn 6800rpm max? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: AlbertaIV@aol.com
In a message dated 11/26/04 2:04:16 PM Pacific Standard Time,
rexjan@bigpond.com writes:
<< change. No it wasn't a standard piston though. Anyway what I'm trying to
say
is 6,800 is OK. Mostly I cruise on 6,000. I hope this makes you feel
easier.
Rex. >>
Rex,
I recall seeing somewhere in all the specs that running at 6800 RPM has a
time limit. Don't remember but something like 1-2 minutes. It sounds like
you are saying you can cruise at 6800 for long duration's. Maybe I read it
wrong or maybe I'm mistaken about the time limit at max RPM's????
Don Smythe
N-998DS Classic IV W/ 582
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: GONER752@aol.com
Thanks guys for the info. All good advice to be sure. Tail time will be a
necessity as I have none, also I believe I need the endorsment. Tailwheel
trainers are actually hard to come by around here(western n.y. state), but there
is
one located at the canandaigua,ny airport. I'll be looking him up shortly.
Probebly won't be able to do much with the fox till spring anyway. Steve- I'll
look for that booklet at skystar. Again, thanks to all.
Safe flying,
Greg G.
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| Subject: | Re: 1. Does anyone turn 6800rpm max? |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
My Fox is adj. for max. 6200 RPM at ground in standard atm. condition.
Under same condition airborne at 1000' agl, full power gave 6800 RPM and
98 IAS.
In the Operators Manual at page 10.1, max 6800 RPM 5 minute and max
continuous RPM is 6500 RPM.
However, I'm using 2 minute max at 6800 and max. cont. 6200 RPM. for my
532UL.
Here you'll find the operating manual:
http://www.poweredparachute.com/manuals/OperatorsManual2st.pdf
Torgeir.
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:33:46 +1030, Rex & Jan Shaw <rexjan@bigpond.com>
wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
>
> 1. Does anyone turn 6800rpm max?
>
> Yes ! Why ? What's the problem ? I understand it seems like it's
> screaming
> if your used to a fourstroke or something but really it's fine. I used to
> race an old Yamaha DT250 motor about '77 vintage in a Kart a few years
> ago.
> This never went much under 14,000 RPM. on the track and could and did
> pull
> 18,500. this motor ran for 10 years and still won the first meeting for
> the
> guy that bought it. Admittedly I used to replace the rod every six
> months
> just to be sure. I used to polish the new rod then shotpeen it before
> installation. In that time I bored it once and that was the only piston
> change. No it wasn't a standard piston though. Anyway what I'm trying to
> say
> is 6,800 is OK. Mostly I cruise on 6,000. I hope this makes you feel
> easier.
> Rex.
> rexjan@bigpond.com
>
>
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| Subject: | O.T. Vortex Generators. |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi Folks,
For those interested in Vortex generators, have a look at our neighbor
list, The Kolb List.
Direct link is here;
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Joel Mapes" <FoxFloatFlyer@hotmail.com>
Kurt wrote:
I had the same problem with my S-5 and NSI Soob. I
shortened the exhaust by 1/2" from the cowl and
wrapped it. (Had it rewelded that way.) Then I
coated the inside of the cowl with the 2000 degree
reflective barrier.
That works, but I think the prop extension is a better
idea if you can do it. That would have worked better
in the end for me. Now I always worry about the weld
cracking or the cowl paint scorching. Also the right
prop extension moves the prop a little farther out
from the cowl and improves its efficiency, IMHO.
Kurt S.
The folks selling the GTA prop do not recommend an extension, and I've already
cut the cowl. Did you do the welding yourself? I'm a novice welder and don't feel
up to the task. Tell me about the 2000 degree barrier. What is it, how is
it applied and where can it be obtained?
Thanks for the reply,
Joel
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Hmmmm,,
If they help a Kolb that much, it seems like they would help a Kitfox.
Randy - Curious
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
Hi Folks,
For those interested in Vortex generators, have a look at our neighbor
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Direct link is here;
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Aerobatics@aol.com
Cool.....but yesterday..
it was abot 45F, 5 mph down the runway, 1/2 fuel, solo, my KF 2 off of
grass that had 2 inches of snow and took almost exactly 150 feet ...I
measured the tracks have photo from air to show!
How much shorter do we need?
Plus... kinda ugly.... plus hard to clean plane...
My Strip is 780 feet and is fine... in many varied conditions temp TO
weights etc....
KF is an amazing plane.... as is
Just an opinion...:-)
Dave
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